Charlotte Bobcats at Indiana Pacers 12/16

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Danny Granger is out, but The Pacers have still won 2 of their last 3, they are 5-6 at home and we are the not so proud owners of the 2nd worst road record in the league 1-10, behind the New Jersey Nets... So this is by no means an "easy win".

In the enemy's game thread (http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=49128) they are feeling confident tonight

There aren't many games that I absolutely expect to be a win. This is one of them.

What do you think?

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For those in the downtown Charlotte area, there is going to be a watch party for tonight's game. There will be games, prizes and ladycats :cool:

If anyone goes, be sure to post some pictures.





BOBCATS WATCH PARTY


WHAT: Bobcats Watch Party, presented by Budweiser
Fan gathering to watch the Bobcats play the Indiana Pacers on Fox Sports Carolinas


WHO: Lady Cats
Bobcats Public Address Announcer “Big Pat”


WHEN: Tonight, beginning at 7:00 p.m.


WHERE: Wild Wing Café at EpiCentre


MORE: The first stop of the Bobcats Watch Party tour is tonight at Wild Wing Café at EpiCentre in uptown Charlotte. The Lady Cats will be on-hand to give away tickets, t-shirts, key chains, and register fans to win video games. Big Pat will host a trivia challenge, with prizes for the winners. All-Star ballots will be available to fill out and submit.

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[Ghost Kat]

Danny Granger is out


Thank you basketball Jesus, My voodoo finally worked.

[TheBeagle]

Danny Granger is out, but The Pacers have still won 2 of their last 3, they are 5-6 at home and we are the not so proud owners of the 2nd worst road record in the league 1-10, behind the New Jersey Nets... So this is by no means an "easy win".

In the enemy's game thread (http://pacersdigest.com/showthread.php?t=49128) they are feeling confident tonight


What do you think? The Cats have done really well against the Pacers over the years, and despite the attrocious road record, this is the best team we've ever had as our record indicates, so I think any Pacers fan that expects a win tonight is nuts. Don't get me wrong; it won't be easy, and we could very well lose and it wouldn't surprise me, but I don't see how they expect a win against us.

I don't know, I'm still feeling the high from last night's game (Jack's dunk....oh shit!!!) so I might be overly optimistic, but I like our chances.

[Marvel]

Can't give my Nostradamus impression on this one,they have a lot of players that are capable of shooting lights out tonight and if one or 2 of them get going we lose

[Ghost Kat]

Only chance Wallace has of making the All Star game is if the coaches pick him

[bonzibonzi]

Links gentlemen ?

[spectre]

nothing but audio so far.

giving up 21 points in just a little over 5 minutes? could be a long night.

[dnbman]

The Pacers haven't missed a shot yet.

[Marvel]

Can't get that RWB stream working holy mack Pacers got 21 in 6 minutes

[spectre]

http://www.freedocast.com/poiuy248#

[Slam]

nothing but audio so far.

giving up 21 points in just a little over 5 minutes? could be a long night.

http://www.freedocast.com/poiuy248#

[bonzibonzi]

http://www.freedocast.com/poiuy248#

thx Spectre !

[Marvel]

Felton for 3 and we're back in it

[spectre]

thx Spectre !

my pleasure. I was starting to worry about this one.

nice run here...back to within 4. Wish we'd got that 3rd on Dungleavy.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Is anybody else's feed not very good or maybe it is just me.

[spectre]

dragging for me too.

amazing boris didn't shoot and had no boards in over 10 minutes. he did have 1 assist.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

One in every twenty games Boris looks like he belongs in the NBA. That sucks for the Bobcats.

[Marvel]

I think the problem with Crash is not his relentless attacking ability on offense but his inability or lack of court awareness to know that the weakside defense will be there when he beats his man off the dribble,thus getting called for offensive fouls.PP,Wade,Kobe are masters at it......... when they beat their man they know exactly what to do against weakside help D.Crash needs to go straight up or hesitation dribble around the help D but he goes straight into the defender........just saying.
My feed is lagging too

[spectre]

http://www.fromsport.com/video-136742.html

vid but no sound at the moment

[GoBobs]

Boris has been great at times like the 4th last night and that game vs the sixers where he was 10-12. We lose that game without boris playing out of his mind.

[dnbman]

At least Chandler is having a good game. He's on pace for a double-double with few landmines in the box score.

[Black]

what a terrible 2nd quarter, this is hard to watch

[Marvel]

Still no sound with that link guys

[SWedd523]

Apparently 23 games is the fastest we've ever made it to 10 wins. Let's see if we can make this the fastest to 11!

[Marvel]

The white boys are beating down on us........

[spectre]

Still no sound with that link guys

just a buncha Indiana homers anyway. :p

it's not dragging tho.

[SWedd523]

Boris looking good with 10/2/2 right now. Oh wait, thats -10 +/-, 2 fouls, 2 turnovers in 14 minutes. NICE!

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Boris can't even look good for a half dozen games so we can get some trade value for his sorry ass

[Marvel]

That was a beautiful defensive set.............Boston style

[ohara831]

Good half by TC, and Jax and Crash OK. Why no UPS, Henderson or Nazr? And why DJ when he cant hit the broad side of a barn? And no Granger. We should be winning this game.

[spectre]

Felton has 2 fouls so that's why DJ has been playing.

Damn good question about Nazr tho. Didn't he have a good game vs. the Pacers last time around?

[GoBobs]

I have had enough flip and stevie G

[Marvel]

Man get them ice picks out.................DJ and Flip are absolutely frickin terrible.Pacers are clamping in the lane daring us to shoot it and it's working to perfection....................... so far, someone better heat up in the 2nd half.Diaw..........WHAT the HELL no rebounds 1 assist 2 TOs.....and why no Nazr?

[Ghost Kat]

Flip needs to actually hit a shoot or just put Henderson in. Atleast he'll bring some defensive energy.

I think it's funny the Indy fans boo Capt. Jack every time he gets the ball.

Jordan had his tounge out, Crash has his mouthpiece out. Thats professional image management.

Put UPS in so he can dunk on someone, He's having a dry spell.

DJ......Keep shooting :facepalm: Just keep shooting

[dav7z]

For some reason ive got a feeling . L Brown is in control of this game. Though i would like to see what NAZZ and TC could do toghter . Borris is doing nothing .
I still belive we come back in the 2nd half. We not really forcing the issue on defence til that little spurt in the late first.

[spectre]

I didn't realize Felton rolled his ankle last night. Some on another blog is saying that he looks in pain. My feed isn't that good, so I dunno.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

The Bobcats are putting on a poor performance and will lose by double digits tonight.

If Granger was playing the Bobcats would lose by 25 to 30.

[GoBobs]

watching the redclaws on another feed. Ajinca plays the whole game with his arms at his sides he needs martin lawarnce as his coach. He doesn't hustle hard or run the floor all that hard. He set a nice screen and guys in the d league are all out for themselves but he could hustle a bit more.

Jakie manual is playing good

[spectre]

We need to sit Felton as he's obviously struggling. Who with tho?

[Slam]

watching the redclaws on another feed. Ajinca plays the whole game with his arms at his sides he needs martin lawarnce as his coach. He doesn't hustle hard or run the floor all that hard. He set a nice screen and guys in the d league are all out for themselves but he could hustle a bit more.
Can you please post a link to the feed?

[Marvel]

I'm really really really starting to hate Diaw in 20 mins he has no rebounds

[spectre]

DJ's done pretty decent in this stretch...on a little run.

[GoBobs]

http://www.nba.com/dleague/games/boxscore.jsp?gameId=2020900060

[spectre]

Heh, Crash wanting to go to Hansbrough's ass. Heck, just tell him if he doesn't watch out we'll put Hendo in.

[Marvel]

DJ's thinking about his shot too much last season it was quick.....automatic,now it looks like he's hesitating a bit

[Ghost Kat]

I'm really really really starting to hate Diaw in 20 mins he has no rebounds

Thats been all season long

[TOOT DADDY]

I like this line up with Jack instead of Grahm though. We haven't seen much of Felts and DJ at the same time this year.

[ohara831]

They dont need Granger. Hell, the Bobcats cant stop Troy Murphy! He's taking out manhood!

[CTownSC]

Up at the lake tonight and the guide is wrong...no game Tenn womans BB

cant find a working link

Go Bcats

[GoBobs]

Diaw is better then Jackson

[dnbman]

They dont need Granger. Hell, the Bobcats cant stop Troy Murphy! He's taking out manhood!

Murphy always causes us fits.

For that matter, any big who can step outside and knock it down causes us fits.

[Marvel]

Pulled it back to within 7......defense defense defense defensive stops

[spectre]

Up at the lake tonight and the guide is wrong...no game Tenn womans BB

cant find a working link

Go Bcats

http://www.atdhe.net/10917/watch-charlotte-bobcats-vs-indiana-pacers

and you're just in time for our 4th quarter run!

[CTownSC]

Thanks for the feed...whats wrong with Charter Cable, they suck... same shite last night.

Lets go Bcats...nice Felton

[BobCatsFanInTx]

DJ showcasing his stupidity for the Knicks.

[spectre]

DJ showcasing his stupidity for the Knicks.

LOL..no, that was last night! :p

That could have been a no call but he did get him.

Just gotta turn the screw a little tighter...

[Marvel]

Fuck me Jax is getting pounded in the paint ..................no call

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Katy bar the door this game is finished.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

To many unnecessary three point attempmts.

[ohara831]

Down by 5 with fthe ball and Jax chucks from deep 3. Why not get the ball to the rim guys? Did not need a 4,a nd now you lose the game.

[TOOT DADDY]

DJ showcasing his stupidity for the Knicks.
yeah he is..3

[CTownSC]

Looks like a shotclock violation to me...our ball no basket

[spectre]

So who's going to be the hero?







or the goat?

[TOOT DADDY]

I bet I know who is taking this shot.

[Marvel]

Daaaamn DJ could have sent it to overtime..........

[BobCatsFanInTx]

yeah he is..3What does the 3 represent? DJ hitting a 3? He did do that but no dice!!

[spectre]

who was it that passed to DJ? Did they not realize we only had 1.4 seconds? :facepalm:

[kickazzz2000]

who was it that passed to DJ? Did they not realize we only had 1.4 seconds? :facepalm:

Who else but fucking mr extra pass himself.

Stupid fucking Diaw

[Slam]

That's so fucked that it's funny.

[Marvel]

who was it that passed to DJ? Did they not realize we only had 1.4 seconds? :facepalm:


That would be Diaw,dumbass actually tried to be hero and saw that DJ was open

[110oldeast]

Slow start killed (can't always play possum and come out on top). Too much Ford. Too much helping off Murphy and their shooters. On a good note, that should give DJ his swagger back.

[ohara831]

What happened? No shot? Tell me, no TV

[spectre]

we had 1.4 seconds. someone keyed it in from our side of the half court line (Flip maybe?) and passed it to Boris who was at the top of the circle. He did have 2 guys on him and he passed it to DJ who nailed it about 5 feet behind the 3 pt line.

but the key to that whole explanation was...we had 1.4 seconds.

[BETCATS]

who was it that passed to DJ? Did they not realize we only had 1.4 seconds? :facepalm:
That would be Boris Diaw:facepalm::facepalm:

Im usually not in favor of saying "lets get rid of ______", but lets get rid of Boris Diaw. Package him and DJ to the Knicks for a big (Hill? Lee? Harrington?) and a midget (Robinson!)

[ohara831]

Well, maybe this helps DJ with his confidence. But we had to be smarter out there.

[Marvel]

No, Diaw was late on the pass.Looks like DJ has his shot creeping back...hopefully.Troy Murphy killed us,Diaw sucks

[spectre]

Well honestly we played like week old ass the entire game. Unforced TOs, quick shots and just stupid decisions. Not defending Murphy out to the 3 line (Boris I guess). It also appears Felton was still hurting from a rolled ankle which led to TJ having his season best game.

We are no where NEAR good enough to coast and then come back in the 4th quarter. Just cuz we did it to the Knicks doesn't mean we can do that against anyone else.

[ohara831]

For those with TV, was it Diaw's fault, or the person who threw him the ball when he had 2 men on him?

[Marvel]

we had 1.4 seconds. someone keyed it in from our side of the half court line (Flip maybe?) and passed it to Boris who was at the top of the circle. He did have 2 guys on him and he passed it to DJ who nailed it about 5 feet behind the 3 pt line.

but the key to that whole explanation was...we had 1.4 seconds.


Diaw tried to be hero, squared up to take the shot and then realised DJ was open,DJ nailed it but obviously it was too late

[TOOT DADDY]

Let's all just hope the last two shots for DJ carry over to the next game. Jack has got more than a green light to shoot. His light is neon

[spectre]

I don't think DJ was open until Boris got the ball (I think DJ's man was the guy doubling Boris). But I can't be absolutely positive.

Either way, Boris should have known how much time was left.

[Marvel]

For those with TV, was it Diaw's fault, or the person who threw him the ball when he had 2 men on him?


It wasn't the inbounds pass but a quick pass to DJ from Diaw would have taken it to overtime.I'll tell you what, who here would love to have A-Randolph right about now his rebounding length/athleticism would really help boost our front court D

[spectre]

It wasn't the inbounds pass but a quick pass to DJ from Diaw would have taken it to overtime

Can you rewind it? I thought Boris caught it while not being in position to shoot, started to square off and then spotted DJ and dumped it to him.

I don't think DJ was open when the pass was thrown.

[ohara831]

OK. Thanks for the picture of it. Wow. That just sucks.

[spectre]

It shouldn't have come down to that anyway. I thought the whole team played lazy/step slow for most of the game. I know they were on a back to back...but tough shit. That's the NBA.

[ohara831]

Can someone tell me how our PF plays 38 minutes and gets 0 rebounds? Not sure how someone plays that long and does not have one fall in his lap,

[Marvel]

Can you rewind it? I thought Boris caught it while not being in position to shoot, started to square off and then spotted DJ and dumped it to him.

I don't think DJ was open when the pass was thrown.

I think he was but one of the other defenders rotated over to DJ, time ran out and DJ nailed it.Going to have to watch the highlights on NBA.com get a better look at it

[KT#20]

a quick pass to DJ from Diaw would have taken it to overtime.

Not even. Definitely not enough time.

[Marvel]

Can someone tell me how our PF plays 38 minutes and gets 0 rebounds? Not sure how someone plays that long and does not have one fall in his lap,


Actually a few did fall into his hands but he fumbled them all:facepalm:

[spectre]

Not a big deal. That wasn't the dumbest play all game...just the last.

[Slam]

Can you rewind it? I thought Boris caught it while not being in position to shoot, started to square off and then spotted DJ and dumped it to him.

I don't think DJ was open when the pass was thrown.
You are right. It was a broken play and Boris came from the paint and presented.

Heck, it was almost a 5 second violation.

I think the play was for Jax to take a corner 3 moving towards the baseline but the Pacers cut that off.

[Slam]

Not a big deal. That wasn't the dumbest play all game...just the last.

Not even close. There were some freaking doozies tonight.

[Chrystos]

Diaw is better then Jackson

Please tell me you are being sarcastic. If not, then that is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard. :facepalm:

[Toocool]

No Granger and we lost.
This is utterly disappointing. We will not make the playoffs if we throw these games.

On a good note:
Augustin played decent, some nice assists and baskets.
TC got a double double, 13/13. If he puts up those stats rest of the year, I will be one happy man.
G and Jax owning it up. With Jax, it's a lot easier for G to get to the rack.

[Keetch]

When you play the Pacers; the ONE thing you can't do is let Troy Murphy and Mike Dunleavy take uncontested 3's. They'll kill you everytime.

It really isn't that complicated.

I found myself yelling at Steve Martin and Dell Curry on the TV for sounding so surprised that those guys would actually keep making wide open shots. Duh. Man, I'm sorry our announcers are taking homer lessons this year.

Even if TJ Ford is playing at the top of his game; no way you triple team him in the paint.

The stupidity is beyond the point of exhaustion for me. I keep watching, but damn it's painful.

I got so angry during the Knicks game last night that I yelled "COME ON FUCKERS!" from my seat during the 3rd Quarter. I hope they didn't hear me, but I think a couple of the assistant coaches might have. No more beer at halftime for me. I've never so much before wanted to go Artest and start throwing cups at anyone within range.

I swear if fucking Flip Murray and Steven Graham don't get benched I'm going to go off. I want to see our rookies and I want to see them now. Damn, I'm pissed off.

[Marvel]

Ok i have taken another look at the final shot and really it was no ones fault really,Diaw would have missed the 3 if he had taken it but as soon as DJ caught the ball,time expired.However no one was guarding DJ he was like a good 6-7 feet out from the 3 point line if the inbounds pass had gone directly to DJ...............could have gone into overtime.....maybe ......just saying.No one paid attention to Dunleavy in the 1st................HELLOOOOOOOOOOO

[rsxnova]

I feel asleep during HT. What happened?

[TheBeagle]

Well honestly we played like week old ass the entire game. Unforced TOs, quick shots and just stupid decisions. Not defending Murphy out to the 3 line (Boris I guess). It also appears Felton was still hurting from a rolled ankle which led to TJ having his season best game.

We are no where NEAR good enough to coast and then come back in the 4th quarter. Just cuz we did it to the Knicks doesn't mean we can do that against anyone else. This is all true. And it made it such a painful game to watch, I quit halfway through the 3rd 'til halfway through the 4th because the anger and frustration were rising too much.

I was amazed they closed it down to 3 and had two chances to tie at the end, but fuckall if they could make a 3 tonight. It's great that they've developed a homecourt advantage and all, but if they have any desire to become a playoff team, as they say they do, they need to grow a pair and get it done on the road. There is no excuse to be this inept. I know I overestimate the ability of the team, but 1-11 and counting is absolutely insane.

Also, great rant, Keetch! I was so pissed last night I didn't give my first second half applause til 4 or 5 minutes left in the game.

[Chef]

No Granger and we lost.
This is utterly disappointing. We will not make the playoffs if we throw these games.

On a good note:
Augustin played decent, some nice assists and baskets.
TC got a double double, 13/13. If he puts up those stats rest of the year, I will be one happy man.
G and Jax owning it up. With Jax, it's a lot easier for G to get to the rack.

I thought DJ was terrible. He should be able to defend TJ Ford (they are the same player). He fouled a three point jump shot, fouled troy murphy on a turn around jumper from the post (just let him have it you are 2 feet shorter and not going to affect the shot unless you just hold him down) and fouled tj ford with 2 seconds left on the shot clock.

on a brighter note, we couldn't throw it in the ocean last night but our foul shooting and taking it to the hole kept us close. the way we played d, we should have lost by 15 but almost had it. granted, they are terrible, but this would not have happened last year.

[spectre]

^ Bonnell's Blog:


-- It says too much about D.J. Augustin's lost season that he missed his first six shots, yet finished with nine points and six assists, and this is considered progress

I thought he did ok in the 2nd half, but compared to the other games hopefully this is progression.



In the timeout before that last possession, coach Larry Brown emphasized that whoever caught the inbounds pass had to shoot it – there'd never be time for anything else. Forward Boris Diaw disregarded that when Pacers guard T.J. Ford jumped at him, swinging the ball to D.J. Augustin.
Augustin made the 3-pointer, but there was never a question the ball left his hands after the buzzer. And Diaw's brain cramp wasn't what bothered Brown most.
"We've got to set the tone defensively'' to win a road game, Brown said. "They just scripted plays. Mike Dunleavy had 12 points in the warmup!''

[Dcarnys]

Alright let's be honest I know about out interior problems, but can we defend the perimeter for a change? We gave up 3's all day long.

[spectre]

I didn't get a good look at the 1st half (no link and then a very draggy one) but if Felton was letting TJ dribble/drive into the paint like it appears then that's going to happen all day long. Guys are going to try and cover and their guy (like Murphy or Dung) will leak out to the 3 line...and they delivered.

[GoBobs]

Please tell me you are being sarcastic. If not, then that is one of the dumbest comments I have ever heard. :facepalm:

Jackson takes to many shots and not only that he mixes in to many bad shots. They are both turnover machines. Jackson is a little better as a 1 on 1 defender but he seems to commit stupid fouls at times. He is a talent for sure but he does not play like a vet which is disturbing because he is old enough to be a vet.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I don't understand the Steven Graham hate. He usually falls right into the flow of the game, he makes few mistakes, and he's a pretty good defender and rebounder. I really don't mind giving him 5-15 minutes a night.

FLIP ON THE OTHER HAND...

[Keetch]

I don't understand the Steven Graham hate. He usually falls right into the flow of the game, he makes few mistakes, and he's a pretty good defender and rebounder. I really don't mind giving him 5-15 minutes a night.

FLIP ON THE OTHER HAND...

Stevie's a pretty marginal player, but you know you're probably right; he doesn't deserve the venom so much. It's more that I want to see Henderson and Brown.

...and Murray's giving me flashbacks of McInnis now. I know they're different players, but the situation has just brought up those memories anyway.

[polarcat]

Shocker --- short bench and we lose. Any reason why Hendo and Brown got DNP's last night? I have not seen the box score for every game this year nor do I recall every single game, but I do feel like when we use our bench we fare better. Not to say the rooks are studs, but they do their jobs and help the vets get some rest. This is where LB disappoints me... trying to out-think or over-coach a game.

[etothet]

I didn't get a good look at the 1st half (no link and then a very draggy one) but if Felton was letting TJ dribble/drive into the paint like it appears then that's going to happen all day long. Guys are going to try and cover and their guy (like Murphy or Dung) will leak out to the 3 line...and they delivered.

Ray didn't look good defensively or offensively. His ankle was bothering him pretty bad. He also got in early foul trouble and was not very agressive defensively. TJ knew Ray was ailing and took advantage of it. He also took DJ to the rack.