Charlotte Bobcats at Toronto Raptors 12/30

[BIGCatBobcat]

The last game of the calendar year tonight in Canada, aye? I've always wondered how the Raptors players and staff feel. Like the GM Brian Colangello. "Nah, no thanks. I mean Phoenix is nice and all but I'd rather spend some time up in Canada. You know, where basketball was invented!" Our old buddy Matt Devlin went up there after he was let go by the Bobcats.

Anyway, as for tonight. Tyson Chandler, still out.

The Raptors are not happy, they're hot, coming in with 4 straight wins and we smoked them 116 - 81 in Charlotte. Big difference between this team at home and away, in the win column at least.
Toronto Sun: http://www.torontosun.com/sports/basketball/2009/12/30/12299816-sun.html
Toronto Star: http://www.thestar.com/sports/basketball/nba/raptors/article/743982--raptors-sharpening-their-talons

And, love the Observer: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/bobcats/story/1150530.html
Rick did put forth some effort on this story about Stephen Jackson and his proclivity for Technical fouls lately: http://www.charlotteobserver.com/rickbonnell/story/1150528.html

Jack has been feeling what I like to call "Being a Bobcat" from the referees lately. It sucks and probably has taken years off of Bernie Bickerstaff and my lifetimes but the refs don't respect a team with no all-stars and no national tv exposure.

So, will we make it 2-14 on the road tonight?

[Ghost Kat]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D7UKllR0Edo

Fuck the Raptors

[LiquidWayno]

Huge game - expect the Raps to be fired up after the drubbing we gave them a few weeks back.

[Fred Williamson]

lmao @ the Raptors board on realGM. Those morons really think they will win this easily.

Get'em Crash.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bmyjNbn-SJU

[Keetch]

lmao @ the Raptors board on realGM. Those morons really think they will win this easily.

Get'em Crash.


Why shouldn't they? We're 1-897 on the road (or something like that). Here's hoping the guys at least give a good effort tonight. I think if they do that; they have a great chance for a win.

Hopefully we'll see a lot of Henderson and UPS too; sure.

[Walt Cronkite]

lmao @ the Raptors board on realGM. Those morons really think they will win this easily.


That's why they're the Raptards. Unfortunately, not feeling too hopeful about this one. Toronto has been playing really well and we're soo bad on the road that I have all road games chalked up as "L's" until they prove otherwise.

Bosh is going to be problems for Crash/Boris/Naz and I don't think Boris/Naz/Diop can contain Bargnani. Jacksum and Felts are going to be key.

[spectre]

Last game Bosh didn't score but like 2 points the 1st half and TC had 6 blocks. Let's see what his replacements do tonight.

[BobcatsAllDay]

Effort is what I'm looking at tonight. I'm grading everyone on effort alone. If I see it and we're in the game going into the 4th then I'll pay attention to execution from that point. If anyone heard Gerald's comments ("It's about what we do, not the Raptors") after the Bucks win I think he was speaking on our effort on the road as well. What are the chances Boris bust his ass for the team tonight?

[Woodsy23]

Effort is what I'm looking at tonight. I'm grading everyone on effort alone. If I see it and we're in the game going into the 4th then I'll pay attention to execution from that point. If anyone heard Gerald's comments ("It's about what we do, not the Raptors") after the Bucks win I think he was speaking on our effort on the road as well. What are the chances Boris bust his ass for the team tonight?

somewhere between slim and zero?:cool:

[Ghost Kat]

LB needs to use his bench if we are going to have a chance tonight. Bosh is a beast and the refs seem to love him. Diop will see alot of playing time tonight. I really hope Diaw is not guarding Bosh. Graham has a chance to have a good night. I'm calling it early...Boris Diaw gets 20points tonight.

[Marvel]

Charlotte Observer headlines......."Bobcats Road Woes Continue"

[Jennings]

This game isn't on TV again???!! Damit. I thought it was only 10 games not on TV.

[Dlwhite83]

i was able to watch monday nights game on directv for some odd reason i hope this one is on

[Ghost Kat]

The game is scheduled to come on Fox Sports South on Time Warner. Channel 38 in my area.

[ammofan]

lets get a winnnnnnnn

[ziggy]

On the road all the way up in the icy wilderness of canada.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/633492552440829456-canada27s-army.jpg

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/633492178762571592-canada.jpg


Gotta love those wacky Canadians... Eh


We're going to get a road win tonight. Dammit we are overdue for one.

[jam]

hey any stream of the bobcats broadcast?it is the raptors broadcast in the rbw stream

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Wait is Jose Calderon injured or something?

[Lewey]

http://www.channelsurfing.net/watch-nba-4.html

[WarioVsMooChicken]

if Nazr started all eyar for us, hed be an allstar

[rsxnova]

Diaw will now be called sissy fingers

[Lewey]

if my feed wasn't so choppy I could tell what sissy fingers wasn't doing

[gforce33]

let's go cats:biggrin:

[spectre]

http://rwbsports.com/ch1.html

maybe try that one, it's smooth for me.

halfway thru the quarter and only Jax & Nazr have scored.

[rsxnova]

if my feed wasn't so choppy I could tell what sissy fingers wasn't doing

He did a real good TC impression when he was wide open in the paint.

[Ghost Kat]

Not a bad start by the Cats, Diaw still sucks. Might not get that 20 points after all

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Hey it's that one 3 Diaw gets every night

[Woodsy23]

good 3 then that pussy foul

[Lewey]

Thanks Spectre!

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Diop scored

uh oh

[Ghost Kat]

So Steve Martin invented the pharse....3D when talking about a defensive three seconds....Interesting:g:

[gforce33]

where is the defense:facepalm:

[spectre]

Playing some really sloppy ball here. We're on pace to have like 25 TOs.

[etothet]

They gave the turnover to Raymond. The pass was there and Diaw bobbled it.




Diaw will now be called sissy fingers

[Woodsy23]

did everyone just see that turnover table...?

[Woodsy23]

9 SHITTING turnovers.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Felton has like 5 rebs already

One thing that people never mention is Felton has crazy good post D for a 6 foot PG.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I hate that these feeds always have the announcers for the other team. Would be nice to hear the Bobcats announcers once in a while.

[gforce33]

Jackson's pass often turnover:facepalm:

[etothet]

Bobcats have the bobbles. Stephen Jackson bobbles one and they give Raymond another turnover. Stephen hits Brown in the hands and he bobbles it out of bounds. We have too many turnovers. Raymond is charged with 3 but should be charged with 1.

[x2pacalypse]

dj sighting

is diaw due for menopause soon so he can quit basketball?

[Ghost Kat]

If all DJ will ever be is a back up, He's still a better option then anyone else.

[gforce33]

gw time:biggrin:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Wallace, jackson, Grahm, DJ, Flip on the floor during this run

who is playing what position, I'm confused <.>

[Woodsy23]

UPS played more than boris, poor ol' hendo with no minutes again so far, the kid has gotta be gutted he gets about a minute every game? hes 12th pick ffs :g:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Grahm looking good lately

[Woodsy23]

Grahm looking good lately

tbh.. i wish he wasnt.. i dont mean it offensively but his good form means the lack of minutes for hendo :confused::g:

[Marvel]

tbh....i wish Graham died so Hendo could get the backup minutes

[WarioVsMooChicken]

To be fair, Grahm has been getting most his mintues at the Foward spots lately

A combination of Flip and Jackson at the 2 seems to be taking most of hendo's minutes.

[Woodsy23]

tbh....i wish Graham died so Hendo could get the backup minutes

sarcasm or extreme love of henderson? ;)

[Ghost Kat]

What happened to the folk that said Diop was soft on Defense?

Offense, Hell yes....

[French_Cats]

I just wake up that fact Diaw?

[Marvel]

sarcasm or extreme love of henderson? ;)

both......

[spectre]

I've always thought Bosh was a smart player, but he's not captializing on our sagging on him very well. Not so impressed.

Least we've fought back after their "revenge" run.

BTW...their announcers are SOOOO trumpeting up their newfound defense. Look at who they've played in that 4 win streak.

[Marvel]

Crash with the rejection

[gforce33]

56:55:g::g:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Feltons shot has been dependable lately...

[gforce33]

Crash with the rejection

i think that no foul

[ziggy]

Taking a quick look at the halftime stats and I see that I am currently tied with Boris Diaw with ZERO rebounds.

[spectre]

Hedo is out for the 2nd half...they're going with Wright instead.

Good for us!

[Marvel]

Could be our 1st road win.....since.......God knows when.This Raptors defense is terrible it's making Diaw look like Karl Malone out there

[French_Cats]

Good job diaw

[spectre]

Nice start out of halftime! LB musta chewed some major ass!

Raps look slow.

[Marvel]

Yeah nah Bosh is going to score all day on Nazr

[spectre]

TOs... :facepalm:

[French_Cats]

Felton monster

[Woodsy23]

we start building up a bit of a lead and then bam we throw it away every time?

[gforce33]

TOs... :facepalm:

:facepalm::facepalm:

[spectre]

Felton monster

That must be why they call him the Annointed One! :p

Game of mini runs now. It'd be really nice to get a lead on these guys.

[French_Cats]

WOW 16 TO TODAY:facepalm::facepalm:

[Marvel]

WTF is it with the TOS.....what are they doing at pratice playing with their balls:facepalm: Oh man Diop with the airball he must be seeing double

[French_Cats]

wow diop airball :hysterical::hysterical:

[spectre]

Crash has learned to play with Gana...treat his shots as passes in front of the rim! :p

[Marvel]

wow Diaw still has zero rebounds i would like us to go up by 20 at the start of the 4th so we can see some Hendo and UPS in action and possibly some highlights,doesn't look like it if we keep racking up the TOs

[Woodsy23]

diaw doing everything he can to help us lose

[French_Cats]

Fuck fuck fuck 18 turnovers !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spectre]

15 TOs between Felton, Crash & Jax. :facepalm:

And Boris throws it away AGAIN.

[French_Cats]

Diaw diaw diaw trade diaw

[gforce33]

diaw...:facepalm: what a you doing:facepalm:

[spectre]

Crash/Banks going at it.

[Woodsy23]

if we lose this game someone shoot me

[Woodsy23]

nice... throw away another game, bravo

[French_Cats]

:facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[spectre]

What a screwed up last play. Let DJ dribble it down to about 5 seconds and then Graham tries to create vs 3 guys? And then Beli makes us pay.

Lord.

[gforce33]

wtf
:facepalm:

[Woodsy23]

What a screwed up last play. Let DJ dribble it down to about 5 seconds and then Graham tries to create vs 3 guys? And then Beli makes us pay.

Lord.

some screws loose in a few heads.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Diaw is playing like the ass he is. He is giving the least amount of effort he can.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Stupidity continues to plague the Bobcats!! Katy bar the door the game is over. Another road loss.

[gforce33]

jackson , wallace need to come forward

[spectre]

They just took the Amir buzzer beater away...we're only down 2.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

In fairness the Raptors are playing really good right now.

[Marvel]

I'm sure Barg travelled.....don't you just hate it when Jax throws up those 4th quarter 3s like that

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Man I hate our teams losing more than winning.

[gforce33]

judges sucks

[spectre]

You'd think we'd go from this small ball lineup since Bosh is fucking killing us in the paint?

[Marvel]

Watch the Cavs game instead now

[gforce33]

lagging:facepalm:

[Woodsy23]

"larry brown working the ref" fuck off you biast cock

[spectre]

And we're back to within 1. :cool:

[ziggy]

this is sickening

...edit I'm dvr'ing and a couple of minute back. Maybe I spoke too soon

[spectre]

Jax just can't defend Bosh.

...and Jack can't defend Felton.

...and we take the lead!!!!!!!!!!!!

[gforce33]

yo
gw:biggrin::biggrin:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

oh god, I'm hating this but I can't stop watching

[French_Cats]

omg:biggrin::biggrin:

[BobCatsFanInTx]

"larry brown working the ref" fuck off you biast cockActually these guys have been more than fair considering they are Raptor announcers. He said Triano and Brown were working the refs.

[French_Cats]

FUCK THE GAME :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm::facepalm: :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

[spectre]

DAMMIT.

2 more and we'll hit my predicted 25 TOs. :facepalm:

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Felton can do some awesome shit but then he gets careless and dribbles into a crowd without making sure to take care of the ball. That shit is why our Bobcats are so bad on the road.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

game over...

[French_Cats]

Fuck bargagni bye bye

[WarioVsMooChicken]

We would have won this with a decent PF...

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Another Bobcats loss. Here we go again.

[spectre]

We would have won this with a decent PF...

And a mobile C who could guard Bosh.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Diaw does not even care anymore. This asshole has to go and real quick. Larry Brown can not see that though. He is in love with this guy who does not love him or the Bobcats organization.

[French_Cats]

Everyone knows that we must move Diaw but management does nothing

[KT#20]

And a mobile C who could guard Bosh.

Not a big TC fan, as I'm sure you know, but no question he could have helped. I would have went with Diop more if I was LB.

[gforce33]

judges , diaw fucking stupid to's make the game lose

[Toocool]

We got eaten alive by Bosh and Barg:facepalm:.
No idea why LB would play Flip for 20+ minutes, Diaw for 30+ minutes.
What the hell are you thinking LB, why put on sub-par players for long minutes. Who cares if they're starters, put the ones who are actually playing hard and well for you.

Felton tried hard, as did Jax but far too many turnovers.

Also, I really would of liked TC back to guard Bosh. Yes, I'm saying it but I believe TC would of held down either Bosh or Barg better.

[spectre]

Not a big TC fan, as I'm sure you know, but no question he could have helped. I would have went with Diop more if I was LB.

Or at least one big. We went small the entire 4th quarter didn't we? Jax did his best, but he just can't contain Bosh, and esp. on the boards. Bosh had SIX offensive boards.

Boris let Bargs make him look like a little girl.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I'm really having a hard time enjoying winning at home because of this.

It just feels like "Wooo, we're gonna come out even" instead of the normal feeling that comes with a victory

[BobCatsFanInTx]

And a mobile C who could guard Bosh.If we could have negated the scoring output of Bosh or Bargnani we might have won this game. Still even if you take that into account the fact that Diaw is useless for the Bobcats really hurts. We get some motivation and decent play out of the man we would have at least a half dozen more wins than we have now.

[KT#20]

Honestly, my biggest peeve right now with Boris is that he's missing so many open shots. Felton gets him wide open looks out of the pick-and-roll, but he just can't knock 'em down.

[spectre]

If we could have negated the scoring output of Bosh or Bargnani we might have won this game. Still even if you take that into account the fact that Diaw is useless for the Bobcats really hurts. We get some motivation and decent play out of the man we would have at least a half dozen more wins than we have now.

Hey, I've been saying all along Boris' play (or lack thereof) is what's killing us. In this one however LB didn't play any bigs here at the end.

And the freaking TOs. That's gotta stop and quick. I know Felton was attributed with a couple that probably wasn't his, but still he's got to take better care of the ball. So far as Jax...I think LB needs to start selectively sitting his ass when he strings 2 or 3 dumbass plays together in a row.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Honestly, my biggest peeve right now with Boris is that he's missing so many open shots. Felton gets him wide open looks out of the pick-and-roll, but he just can't knock 'em down.The man is giving less than 50% effort and really is not allowing himself to get into the flow of the game. I am guessing that is why he is missing so many shots. I think his skills are fine but his mind is not.

[gforce33]

Wallace's FGA directly affect the team's victory or defeat

[ziggy]

1-14 on the road.

It's a miracle that we are still in the playoff conversation at all.

[French_Cats]

The simple solution and spank trade Diaw

[spectre]

What's so aggravating is that we could have won a lot of those games. We should be fighting Miami for that 5th spot EASILY.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

No doubt Larry's substitution patterns are lacking on many a night. If Diaw plays well though I can see us winning this one in spite of that. Also it would have been nice to see TC in this game to see how he matched up.

It is easy to say trade Diaw, Diop, Murray, TC or Graham but since they are garbage is doubtful the Bobcats brass can get rid of them. Not without losing somebody like Crash or Stephen Jackson. What we would get in return would probably not make us any better and may make us worse.

[Marvel]

Another loss on the road good thing we're in the eastern conference,if we were in the west we would be out of the playoff race for sure.As for the game......same ol same ol Diaw stinks we turned the ball over way too many times:facepalm:

[teej]

Honestly, my biggest peeve right now with Boris is that he's missing so many open shots. Felton gets him wide open looks out of the pick-and-roll, but he just can't knock 'em down.

This from the person who's been skewering TC? Wow.

Didn't see the game as I had to take care of some family issues, but why the heck a true big man only played 26 minutes for us befuddles me. Seriously LB? With them, it makes more sense to play Diop and Naz TOGETHER!

Ugh. We'll figure this out at somepoint, or the players will go Sam Vincent on LB's ass.

[BobcatsAllDay]

Why did we leave the Italian Stallion? He was killing us all night and we give him an open look at the 3. Puzzles me, at that point in the game a 3 basically wins the game for them. Wonder what the conversation was in the timeout. By Jackson's reaction to the made 3 my guess would be they were told not to leave him.

Pregame conversation by the Bobcat players.....

"Hey guys we have lost in many ways on the road this year. How about we shoot very well from the floor tonight, but turn the ball over so many times we ultimately kill our chances of winning??? Win on 3. 1!, 2!, 3! WIN!!!"

[KT#20]

This from the person who's been skewering TC? Wow.

What the hell does that mean? If he's hitting those shots, his game's not nearly as bad as what it's been, and we're obviously a better team for it.

And note, I said my BIGGEST, not only. TC hasn't done crap for us, so obviously I'm going to get after him; especially considering we traded Okafor for him, people (like you) said he would help us more than Okafor could, and he's our highest paid player.

[BobcatsAllDay]

TC hasn't done crap for us

With the way Boris is playing I can't say that about Tyson. He has had games this year when he did exactly what I expect him to do.

[KT#20]

He has had games this year when he did exactly what I expect him to do.

As has Boris.

[Marvel]

This from the person who's been skewering TC? Wow.

Didn't see the game as I had to take care of some family issues, but why the heck a true big man only played 26 minutes for us befuddles me. Seriously LB? With them, it makes more sense to play Diop and Naz TOGETHER!

Ugh. We'll figure this out at somepoint, or the players will go Sam Vincent on LB's ass.


Diop and Nazr together:hysterical::hysterical: would have made us even worse.I would have liked to have seen TC in the game as much as or don't think much at all, i know he would have helped us take this one.He still sucks overall but against the Raps his presence was definitely missed

[BobcatsAllDay]

As has Boris.

Can we chalk this up as a slump for Boris? If so, how long do we wait for him to recover?

[TheBeagle]

Now, I haven't seen them all, but for my money, this was the worst-officiated game for the Cats this season. I mean gottdamm Bellineli was getting calls that GW and Jack weren't getting?!?!?! Not to mention the fact that every time he or his Italian compatriot Bargnani took steps every time they put the ball on the floor yet never ONCE was called for the travel.......whatever.

But of course, the TOs were once again the story. It's just getting ridiculous how little they value the ball. Lazy pass after lazy pass after lazy pass. This is one of the worst defenses in the league, a weak team that doesn't LIKE to play d, yet the Cats either overpassing, or dribbling the air out of the ball on the perimeter, or just making errant passes when pick 'n rolls, backdoor cuts, and dribble drives would carve the Raptors to pieces. But 21 damn TOs. Heaven help me.

Also, once again, the ineffective, TO prone Meow getting massive minutes and getting taken advantage of in any matchup on the defensive end and doing nothing to facilitate the offense. I remember Derrick getting decent minutes and productive ones at that during the blowout win at home against TOR, yet he gets a minute or two tonight and that's it. And even in that time he got more offensive rebounds than Meow. I just don't get it. I understand the results of it: losses; I just don't understand the logic in it.

Nor do I understand the logic in going with the small lineup towards the end of the game, having GW guard Bosh? Especially with Nazr and Gana putting together a really good first half, yet they're MIA in the second. All this shit's just blowing my mind and pretty fucking sick and tired of it.

I've decided on a compromise. Instead of an all out moratorium on watching Bobcats games, it's just going to be road games. I mean, what's the point anyway, it's not like they'll every win, so it'll save me that much grief/torture from having to watch them tease me only to wilt away at the end. Oh well, maybe someday they'll figure it out...

[French_Cats]

22 turnovers :facepalm: impossible to win as his

[spectre]

This is courtesy of "Sandy" in the comments section of Bonnell's article on the game:



Again, too much small ball. Why didn't Nazr or Diop play at all in the last quarter? The Bobcats dominated the boards for 3 quarters (28-20); then, comes the small ball of the last quarter, and with it, the Raptors take control of the rebounds: 16-7 in this quarter! That wasn't a way to win this game. Even if our centers didn't take a lot of rebounds in the few minutes they were allowed on the floor, it's just the presence and positioning of the big men that often facilitates rebounding by the smaller guys.

I never knew LB as a small ball coach, but this season he's using and overusing small line-ups, creating mismatches that other teams are capable of exploiting. Small ball, with its extra quickness, will win some games; not a lot of them, I'm afraid.


Even with the TOs we could have won this game.

[Keetch]

Yup, the Raps were shooting right over us.

I'm beginning to suspect sabotage, which when translated from French, means "Boris Diaw". EZ Bo is pulling this season into le crapps.

Seriously, did you SEE his passes!? Ack du libre!

"Oh here I have zee ball, oops here I give eet back"

[SWedd523]

Speaking of Boris' ineptitude (and this goes for the Bucks game btw), I saw him getting chewed out by other guys at least 5 times. One time down, Jack was seriously getting in his shit for watching on offense and Boris just had this look of "whatever" on his face like little kids do when they roll their eyes--You parents should know what I'm talking about. Anyway, Jack kept busting his shit and Boris finally said (in a sarcastic tone), "My bad then."



I'm beginning to think Boris can't handle the pressure. Last year we didn't really have guys that would get on your shit. Now, Ray and Crash are becoming more vocal and Jack has come to town, who expects 100%.

So Boris isn't getting the baby treatment like he's used to and he's getting chewed out for going weak. He's soft. He's a pussy. He's a grown ass man and he needs to toughen up before we send Jack after his ass in some dark alley.