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teej
01-13-2010, 11:41 AM
Brown Pushing The Right Buttons
By Matt Moore
TrueHoop Network

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Last season Larry Brown traded superstar Jason Richardson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1018) for Boris Diaw (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2167) and Raja Bell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=49). People said he was crazy, that those players were too incomplete, they'd never improve. But the Bobcats made a serious push for the playoffs that was bested only by Chicago's easy late schedule.
This summer, the Bobcats traded franchise center Emeka Okafor (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2399) for Tyson Chandler (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=984). People said that it was a terrible trade and the Bobcats would regress. Then they traded Bell and Vladimir Radmanovic (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1016) for Stephen Jackson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=378). Mercurial, high-maintenance, wanted to play for a contender. Surely this was a disaster.
The Bobcats started the season as the worst offense in the league outside of lowly New Jersey. They had no perimeter scorer, no slashing guard, no complement to Gerald Wallace (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1026), who has played at an All-Star level this season. So adding Jackson made a lot of sense, yet the jeers continued, primarily (and reasonably) because of the long-term cap complications of their roster makeup. Even though Brown has shown no hesitation or difficulty in moving contracts, it seemed the Bobcats had simply compounded their long-term limitations.

So with an incomplete roster, on a night when Wallace had a bad night, with doomed long-term viability, and after facing a very good playoff-contending team in the Houston Rockets (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/clubhouse?team=hou), Brown walked to his car -- with a smile on his face. Or rather, whatever resembles a smile when it's on Brown's face.
"Captain" Jackson scored a career-high 43 points and the Bobcats' defense held Houston to just 24 points in the second half, and the Cats improved to 17-19, 14-4 at home (tied for best in the league) and 7-3 in their last 10. Once again, Brown's crazy alchemy is netting results. The East is in yet another year of mediocrity past the top four seeds, and the Bobcats find themselves in the seventh seed, just a game behind Miami for fifth.
Look out, the crazy old guy has the Bobcats playing legit.



Also, the chatters on daily dime from Detroit were talking about how LB was better than Phil...

Walt Cronkite
01-13-2010, 12:00 PM
14-4 is tied for the best home record in the league? Anyway, always good to see some national publicity.

BRNC
01-13-2010, 01:12 PM
Nice to have good publicity...

SWedd523
01-13-2010, 01:54 PM
14-4 is tied for the best home record in the league? Anyway, always good to see some national publicity.

1. LAL (21-3)
2. DEN (16-3)
3. CLE (14-3)
3. NOH (14-3)
5. PHX (15-4)
6. CHA (14-4)
6. ORL (14-4)
6. ATL (14-4)
9. DAL (17-6)
10. HOU (11-4)


Definitely not first, but in some pretty great company

spectre
01-13-2010, 02:04 PM
He must have meant tied for 1st in the East, but just 4 losses at home at this stage is pretty freaking huge in any case.

Nice find Teej.

teej
01-13-2010, 02:05 PM
Maybe he meant first in the East?

dav7z
01-13-2010, 02:33 PM
Good find , I have been to ever game except two . From game one ive noticed a growing attitude . Confidence from the the players growing . Now im seeing expections from the players . Even confidence from the fans one might say a expection of winning. All of a sudden chants from the croud in the GRIZZ game. People starting to stand up clap yell scream . Even with a small croud last night . It got loud in the 2nd half . Im expecting only larger crouds more wins and a fifth seed in the playoffs . Coach Brown and this team have took hudge strides this season .

People are just starting to realize we a hard noze team with talent . Our defence is number one in the league 40 games into the season who would have thought .

Two All Star players weather they make the game or not, both are all star quality.
The theam play the right way may sound stupid to a lot of you guys . But with all the passing and being unselfish , Traping , helping on the weak side. Pride in defence. All takes me back to the golden days of Dean Smith. YES thease guys are playing the right way.

LiquidWayno
01-13-2010, 02:55 PM
Definitely hear you on the vibe at games, I have only been to three and can see and feel the energy improving. Going to see them play the Spurs on Friday, I expect the crowd to be crazy

Ghost Kat
01-13-2010, 04:28 PM
Matt Moore is a basketball writer too?? The football season just ended, Well I guess you gotta make that side money some how. I would have suggested strip'n

teej
01-13-2010, 04:41 PM
Matt Moore is a basketball writer too?? The football season just ended, Well I guess you gotta make that side money some how. I would have suggested strip'n

LOL Kat, I'm pretty sure it's a different Matt Moore. But uh, either way, did you just recommend a dude stripping? :escape:

Ghost Kat
01-13-2010, 04:49 PM
LOL Kat, I'm pretty sure it's a different Matt Moore. But uh, either way, did you just recommend a dude stripping? :escape:

Thats good money in this economy, Strippers don't get laid off or have to sit and wait while an older less talented stripper stinks up the dance floor. Plus I'd much rather have girls chasing me than 300 pound linemen.

catsandheels
01-13-2010, 08:15 PM
good to get recognised i think we are starting to become a big name in the league now.

kickazzz2000
01-13-2010, 11:00 PM
Thats good money in this economy, Strippers don't get laid off or have to sit and wait while an older less talented stripper stinks up the dance floor. Plus I'd much rather have girls chasing me than 300 pound linemen.

The real question is can you have 2 or 3 strippers out there at the same time and run the wildcat formation.

TheBeagle
01-14-2010, 12:34 AM
Definitely hear you on the vibe at games, I have only been to three and can see and feel the energy improving. Going to see them play the Spurs on Friday, I expect the crowd to be crazy Yeah. You and dav are right. Two examples from the last two games:

1. After the Memphis win, walking towards the exit I overheard a lady say, "I like coming to Bobcats games; they always win at the end." It was a really simple statement, but says volumes about how far this team/franchise has come because a statement like that was never the case in years past, especially pre-Larry.

2. After falling down by 13 last night, there was quite a bit of frustration, but a couple dudes in my section just sat back and one said, "I ain't a big deal....we always come back".......and of course he was right.

This is a sea change if ever there was one.


About the attendance issue..I don't know. Last night was pathetic, the first really pathetic showing of the year, especially considering how our guys are playing. The lower bowl has been abysmal all year and is the worst it's ever been. However, the 200s, while still empty in plenty of spaces, is as full, on a game to game basis, as it's ever been except for the arena's first year. It'll be interesting to see if anything except Kobe Bryant can get people to max out seating capacity, including, yes, potential playoffs. It's just impossible to overestimate the poison the Hornets left in the water when they skipped town. I think it can be overcome, I'm just leary that a single postseason will be enough. We shall see :g:

Toocool
01-14-2010, 07:30 AM
I remember watching the Timberwolves game where Crash tipped in the last second shot, everyone jumped out of their seat. It was an awesome feeling to see that there are fans out there who really do support the Bobcats. Kinda makes me wish I lived in America, having to wake up damn early in the morning to watch Bobcats games is pretty tough, especially when you sleep late xD.

Attendance can fluctuate. Some games interest people, some doesn't. But I'm pretty certain there is a small HC fanbase out there that attends games in game out (besides us).

Dcarnys
01-14-2010, 08:15 AM
I can't wait to see this team live. Its just a matter of getting down there.

teej
01-14-2010, 10:26 AM
From today's dime, courtesy Chris Sheridan.


Having severed ties with washout Sean Williams (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3239), New Jersey (whose most tenured player is now Josh Boone (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2990)) is still trying to peddle Keyon Dooling (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=209), who sat out with a sore hip, and Trenton Hassell (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=998), hoping to bring back a draft pick or two from a playoff team before this summer when the Nets will drop some $22-24 million below the salary cap (The Nets still own their own first-round pick, but their second-rounder -- likely No. 31 overall -- was traded away to Seattle long ago for Mikki Moore (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=575), and Charlotte now holds the rights to that pick.) One team source said New Jersey's other veterans on expiring contracts, Jarvis Hayes (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1980) and Bobby Simmons (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1022), have zero trade value at this point.

Did I miss something? If it's true, that's great, but where did we get it?

chabber
01-14-2010, 10:36 AM
Is this not the pick we got for Kyle Weaver?

teej
01-14-2010, 10:39 AM
Is this not the pick we got for Kyle Weaver?

I thought that became Robert Vaden? I'm so confused by the whole trading thing though, I could be wrong.

chabber
01-14-2010, 10:49 AM
We traded him to the Thunder. After checking it looks like the Vaden pick was from the Spurs.

BRNC
01-14-2010, 10:50 AM
I thought that became Robert Vaden? I'm so confused by the whole trading thing though, I could be wrong.

teej...the "Weaver" pick was Vaden...and Vaden was "sold" draft night not traded...so I'm confused on how we ended with with this Nets pick...if we indeed have it...I've never seen it listed as "coming to us" this year at any of my draft sites...and they list all "owed picks"...the writer may have made a mistake...:g:

teej
01-14-2010, 10:50 AM
We traded him to the Thunder. After checking it looks like the Vaden pick was from the Spurs.

OK, then that was the Ely pick?

Then I guess Kyle Weaver being traded wasn't so bad after all.

BRNC
01-14-2010, 10:56 AM
...well if Vaden was the Ely pick,,,what happened to the "Weaver pick" which we were to collect from the Thunder in last years draft? Or, was UPS the Thunder pick and we did not have our own second last year?

chabber
01-14-2010, 10:57 AM
Looks like UPS was the Weaver pick....maybe you are right BRNC and this writer doesn't know what he's talking about.

spectre
01-14-2010, 11:00 AM
Nice memory. I was trying to remember when we got a pick from the Spurs but couldn't think of anything. You are right though it was the Ely trade.

So we definitley have the 31st pick in this years draft from the Thunder via the Nets for Kyle Weaver on our end.

Nice! Assuming that stays 31st that's one of the best picks to have as it's unguaranteed. Here lately there's been a lot of good talent picked up in the first part of the 2nd round.

spectre
01-14-2010, 11:01 AM
Looks like Brown was the Weaver pick....maybe this writer doesn't know what he's talking about.

DOH! :p

But I want him to be right!

chabber
01-14-2010, 11:05 AM
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010draftnotes.html

According to this link though we could be recieving a second round pick this year from the Suns via the J Rich trade.

That would have been a great pick spectre. Damn him for confusing us all and getting our hopes up. At least we still have UPS as a consolation prize. I'll take that any day.

BRNC
01-14-2010, 11:08 AM
http://www.nbadraft.net/2010draftnotes.html

According to this link though we could be recieving a second round pick this year from the Suns via the J Rich trade.

We are all more than a little confused on that "Suns" pick...the best we've come up with is the Suns get the better of the second round picks (believe it or not)...our second and their second...so we only have one second round pick...

teej
01-14-2010, 11:14 AM
Ok. I went back and looked this up. Our 2009 pick was given to the Lakers for Rush back in '04-'05. Weaver became Brown (not too shabby) via the Mikki Moore thing he's talking about, and Vaden was from the Ely trade (which ended up being a pretty bad trade IMO). I don't know where Sheridan's getting this thing.

BRNC
01-14-2010, 11:25 AM
teej...I think Sheridan just made a mistake...happens to all of us...:p

teej
01-14-2010, 11:26 AM
teej...I think Sheridan just made a mistake...happens to all of us...:p

True. But most mistakes don't get a bunch of people's hopes up :rolleyes:

BRNC
01-14-2010, 11:48 AM
ROFLMAO...Sheridan has never gotten "my hopes" up...:p

Chef
01-14-2010, 11:51 AM
True. But most mistakes don't get a bunch of people's hopes up :rolleyes:

like obama?

SERIOUSLY GUYS, LET'S KEEP THE POLITICS TO THE OFF TOPIC FORUMS. I'M TIRED OF TELLING YOU ALL. THIS IS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I REALLY MEAN IT.

teej
01-14-2010, 12:29 PM
like obama?

SERIOUSLY GUYS, LET'S KEEP THE POLITICS TO THE OFF TOPIC FORUMS. I'M TIRED OF TELLING YOU ALL. THIS IS IN ALL CAPS BECAUSE I REALLY MEAN IT.

Wait, what?

truDUKEfan
01-14-2010, 01:13 PM
:confused: :g: :confused:

Chef
01-14-2010, 01:25 PM
just messing around. felt the need to post while at work and bored.

teej
01-14-2010, 01:27 PM
just messing around. felt the need to post while at work and bored.

OK, but what does that have to do with Obama or politics??

Chef
01-14-2010, 01:43 PM
a play on the quote about mistakes getting people's hope's up. but now that i think about it, my joke was ass-backwards. hopes were already up and he is the mistake...

in actual basketball news:
hollinger had a chat, a few bob's references

Bruce (LA)

If the Bobcats make the playoffs, should Larry Brown be the coach of the year?
John Hollinger (12:48 PM)

He merits more consideration than he's received thus far. Rick Adelman has a great shot at it if Houston makes the playoffs, but others to watch would be Mike Woodson and Rick Carlisle.


Aaron (Charlotte)

Are the Bobcats in any discussions?
John Hollinger (12:52 PM)

I think Charlotte already made its "deadline deal" when it got Jackson earlier this year. The Gerald Wallace rumors have quieted now that the team is winning, and Felton isn't going anywhere with Augustin playing as badly as he is. Only possibility would be something involving Diaw, and/or low-level moves involving Ajinca, Henderson, or Law's expiring deal.
Phil (SLC)

Ed Stefanski (Philly)

Is there a team out there in a worse bind than mine?
John Hollinger (1:06 PM)

Have you seen how your former team is doing about 100 miles to the northeast? I also think Charlotte is in a worse bind long-term -- at least the Sixers have some good young players (Speights, Young, Williams, Holiday). Philly's issue is that they have no money coming in and are completely capped out, so it's hard for them to make any moves between now and the end of next season.

at least we are getting to the "on the radar" point in the national media

teej
01-14-2010, 01:55 PM
We have the future in UPS and Hendo, and either Ray or DJ. Plus Gerald will be around. Center is my only concern, but our dear friend Hollinger is forgetting that none of our key players are past their prime, and Jax is the only one close.

spectre
01-14-2010, 02:25 PM
Dag Chef...beat me to it.

Sticking with my theme for today I am not so sure Hendo is in our "future" plans...but as has been well documented "future" doesn't mean a heckuva lot to me either. Borderline starters...or rather non stars IMO don't warrant "future" being tied to them.

Chef
01-14-2010, 03:21 PM
i do agree with hollinger on our bleak long term future. right now we have the following players in their primes and probably looking at declining after 2 or 3 seasons:
crash
jax
ray

we have over paid guys in chandler, diaw

we have cap killer in diop

we don't really have an exciting future in dj, hendo, brown

draft bust:aa

plus, we don't have a draft pick this year and have a pretty weak fan base, so it doesn't look all that promising from a future stand point.

The good: we will have cap space in 2011 with tc, naz expiring plus diop going in 2012. we could unload naz or tc next year for future help and turn the future around, but it is going to take some work and a lot of GOOD moves by management which hasn't shown an exactly stellar past history.

Scottley Crue
01-14-2010, 03:25 PM
While I fully understand the importance of having a plan for the future, I think these analysts put too much emphasis on it. I mean, I don't ever remember teams being awarded extra wins at the end of the season because they had really good young players and a lot of upcoming capspace.

The biggest thing that gets me is that no one know what the future holds. Just because someone isn't living up to their contract this year doesn't mean they won't the next. And vice-versa. Basically, you are capable of changing your "future," so I don't understand getting hung up on it like some do.

teej
01-14-2010, 03:34 PM
While I fully understand the importance of having a plan for the future, I think these analysts put too much emphasis on it. I mean, I don't ever remember teams being awarded extra wins at the end of the season because they had really good young players and a lot of upcoming capspace.

The biggest thing that gets me is that no one know what the future holds. Just because someone isn't living up to their contract this year doesn't mean they won't the next. And vice-versa. Basically, you are capable of changing your "future," so I don't understand getting hung up on it like some do.

Exactly. DJ could become the next AI, Gerald could average 20/10 for the next 5 years and UPS could become an All-Star, or DJ and UPS could wash out and Gerald could decline next season. It's typical BSPN stuff.

And Chef, Ray only has 2-3 years left? Makes noooooo sense.

Chef
01-14-2010, 04:10 PM
Exactly. DJ could become the next AI, Gerald could average 20/10 for the next 5 years and UPS could become an All-Star, or DJ and UPS could wash out and Gerald could decline next season. It's typical BSPN stuff.

And Chef, Ray only has 2-3 years left? Makes noooooo sense.

i agree and thought i had included that sentiment in my post. the future is not set in stone, but if you are gauging the future (which is what he is doing) you have to look at what we have now and that is not much.

teej: to even think that dj could become the next ai is ridiculous. ty evans COULD become the next ai, dj hasn't shown anything remotely close to superstar potential in his first 2 years. could he be a solid starter, maybe. a solid 6th man a la jason terry, more likely. but, an all star, not even close based on performance. sure hendo could avg 20/10 but considering he can't even get playing time now and brown is having to kill the starters with minutes because hendo or brown haven't really been able to do anything, it is much more likely they won't be all-stars than will be.

i did not mean ray has 2-3 years left, i just meant that i believe he has peaked as far as development. sure he may continue to improve his jumper and bbiq (both are much much better this year as compared to 2 years ago) but it is not likely that he will be averaging 17/10. i think he is where he is and that is a pretty solid point guard but nothing to build a future team around.

teej
01-14-2010, 04:31 PM
teej: to even think that dj could become the next ai is ridiculous. ty evans COULD become the next ai, dj hasn't shown anything remotely close to superstar potential in his first 2 years. could he be a solid starter, maybe. a solid 6th man a la jason terry, more likely. but, an all star, not even close based on performance. sure hendo could avg 20/10 but considering he can't even get playing time now and brown is having to kill the starters with minutes because hendo or brown haven't really been able to do anything, it is much more likely they won't be all-stars than will be.

My main point (in using that hyperbole) was to point out that it's impossible to judge the future. In 2003, wasn't Detriot supposed to be set for a long time? Instead, they're on their 4th coach since that draft. Or maybe the Oden pick, where the Blazers were going to be champs in 5 years? And it's not like Ford and Hollinger predicted Evans + Omri to be this good for Sacramento, or Brandon Jennings to make Milwaukee a respectable team. Anyone who thinks Ford and Hollinger have any clue how the future will work for anyone is ludicrous. They may predict the Clippers to be great with Blake Griffin, but he could be messed up and never be what they thought. These are the guys who said Darko was better than Wade, Flynn was better than Jennings, Oden was better than Durant, and Marvin Williams was better than Danny Granger (among many others). I don't see how they have any credibility whatsoever.

Chef
01-14-2010, 04:52 PM
i agree with you, but if we are grading the cat's future right now, it doesn't look bright. after our "big 3" peak we don't have much in the wings. this could change with one great draft or a few key trades though. not putting a whole lot into their outlooks, but it is hard to argue that we aren't exactly stacked with young talent and cap room.

teej
01-14-2010, 04:56 PM
i agree with you, but if we are grading the cat's future right now, it doesn't look bright. after our "big 3" peak we don't have much in the wings. this could change with one great draft or a few key trades though. not putting a whole lot into their outlooks, but it is hard to argue that we aren't exactly stacked with young talent and cap room.

1. I'm trying to say you can't grade ANYONE's future, and whether things look bright for us or not, it doesn't matter.

2. Cap room coming after next season, and when has free agency helped anyone win a ring? I'd love to see percentages on that.

Scottley Crue
01-14-2010, 06:47 PM
i agree with you, but if we are grading the cat's future right now, it doesn't look bright. after our "big 3" peak we don't have much in the wings. this could change with one great draft or a few key trades though. not putting a whole lot into their outlooks, but it is hard to argue that we aren't exactly stacked with young talent and cap room.
I can agree that right now, if you're looking for stud rookies or immediate cap clearance, you won't find it. My only point is that right now will be over by the time you get to the end of this sentence. So, for me at least, peering into the future isn't a very worthwhile thing to do.

teej
01-14-2010, 07:12 PM
I can agree that right now, if you're looking for stud rookies or immediate cap clearance, you won't find it. My only point is that right now will be over by the time you get to the end of this sentence. So, for me at least, peering into the future isn't a very worthwhile thing to do.

So true. If you're regrading the future every transaction and every draft, then what's the point?

And it's not like they're great prognosticators either, especially Ford.

BRNC
01-14-2010, 11:44 PM
Regarding the future...would Portland have drafted Oden...or the Clippers Griffin...best guess would be a better term...they (talking heads) have no idea what players will pan out, get injured, get traded etc...

We have a solid team now and unless the FO does something completly stupid (and I don't think they will) we'll be fine...as pointed out TC and Nasr will be expirings next year and if used wisely we will be fine...

truDUKEfan
01-15-2010, 01:58 AM
i do agree with hollinger on our bleak long term future. right now we have the following players in their primes and probably looking at declining after 2 or 3 seasons:
crash
jax
ray

we have over paid guys in chandler, diaw

we have cap killer in diop

we don't really have an exciting future in dj, hendo, brown

draft bust:aa

plus, we don't have a draft pick this year and have a pretty weak fan base, so it doesn't look all that promising from a future stand point.

The good: we will have cap space in 2011 with tc, naz expiring plus diop going in 2012. we could unload naz or tc next year for future help and turn the future around, but it is going to take some work and a lot of GOOD moves by management which hasn't shown an exactly stellar past history.
:bs:








In regards to this statement i think thats one of the Craziest things i have ever seen someone post. How can you sum up 3 draft picks as bust with no future when all together you have probally seen them play a total of less than 100 mins. combined, not to mention that when we drafted AA that we ALL knew he was really raw and undeveloped and knew that he was AND still is a project with a crazy skill set for a 7ft 18 year old kid, who had only played like one season in euroupe when we drafted him ...(what do you think? everyone drafted under 30th should come str8 into the NBA and start putting up 20/10 from the start if not there a bust?) Well i think all 3 players will be great role players for us, and we even might have one stud out of the group b/c hendo and brown are very athletic and have tons of potential. One thing you cant teach is the hutsle and bbiq which both have in abundence. I'm not bashing you i just think you should really think about or at least have a clue about what you post.........

P.S.-Hollinger is :crazy:, I cant tell you how many of his crazy predictions have :blowup: and been duds....Have faith in M.J. and Ron b/c look at it this way. We all screw up but its what you do with the second chance that matters.....(But if it happens again we are screwed)

Chef
01-15-2010, 08:39 AM
first off, aa and hendo were taken 18 and 14. aa is in his 2nd year and is in his 2nd stint in the D league. how many nba players have taken that track and been successful? zero. if aa had been a 2nd round pick and not a traded first i would give him more time. so hendo is gonna be a 20/10 beast eventually? he didn't even avg close to that in college where he started and played most of the game! he can't really shoot. he plays solid defense and is a great athlete, but i really don't think he will be a star/stud. at best you are looking at a bruce bowen stopper. brown was a great 2nd round pick and should be a sure fire 2nd unit guy in the future, but he is a tweener. he isn't offensively diverse enough to be a solid 3 (yet) and is way too small to be a pf. not saying he isn't good or will even contribute but i seriously doubt that any of these 3 guys will be the anchor to a great team.

Demon DeaCat
01-15-2010, 09:44 AM
I disagree with Hollinger. I actually think our future looks pretty good. We have pretty big contracts coming off the books in each of the next 3 years after this. There are always teams out there trying to clear cap space, desparately get under the LT, or part with disgruntled talent. There will be opportunities to improve if we play our cards right. And the best part is, we're not at all bad right now. Plus, it only takes getting lucky in the draft one time to drastically change the trajectory of a franchise. We've really never been lucky so maybe we're due.

As an aside, I have to say that for all the criticism that has been directed at our FO, and I've certainly contributed my share, they've done a pretty good job of getting this thing turned around in a relatively short period of time. With the exception of the Diop trade, the last several moves have been positive, if not brilliant. Even the EO/TC trade, for as much as I hated it and criticized it at the time, is going to be hard to knock if we end up in the playoffs AND have cap flexibility after next season.

With what appears to be a playoff team, a core of talent still in its prime, renewed confidence in the FO and light at the end of the tunnel on some bad contracts, I think there's as much reason for optimism as there ever has been in Bobcat land.

Chef
01-15-2010, 09:47 AM
I disagree with Hollinger. I actually think our future looks pretty good. We have pretty big contracts coming off the books in each of the next 3 years after this. There are always teams out there trying to clear cap space, desparately get under the LT, or part with disgruntled talent. There will be opportunities to improve if we play our cards right. And the best part is, we're not at all bad right now. Plus, it only takes getting lucky in the draft one time to drastically change the trajectory of a franchise. We've really never been lucky so maybe we're due.

As an aside, I have to say that for all the criticism that has been directed at our FO, and I've certainly contributed my share, they've done a pretty good job of getting this thing turned around in a relatively short period of time. With the exception of the Diop trade, the last several moves have been positive, if not brilliant. Even the EO/TC trade, for as much as I hated it and criticized it at the time, is going to be hard to knock if we end up in the playoffs AND have cap flexibility after next season.

With what appears to be a playoff team, a core of talent still in its prime, renewed confidence in the FO and light at the end of the tunnel on some bad contracts, I think there's as much reason for optimism as there ever has been in Bobcat land.

i agree with everything you have said. but, there are alot of ifs. if we continue with smart moves, i think next year could set us up for the future very well. we have to move our expirings or sign free agents very wisely. thankfully, we are "out of the woods" so rash moves are no longer necessary.

teej
01-15-2010, 10:38 AM
i agree with everything you have said. but, there are alot of ifs. if we continue with smart moves, i think next year could set us up for the future very well. we have to move our expirings or sign free agents very wisely. thankfully, we are "out of the woods" so rash moves are no longer necessary.

There are a lot of "ifs" with Blake Griffin, too.

BRNC
01-15-2010, 10:49 AM
There are many "ifs" with every team...making solid BB decisions has to be the priority...and from our last draft to this point in time I think the FO has made solid decisions...I'm in the "will it continue" mode...I hope it will for us (the fans) and for the team...