I'm impressed..

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

..blowing the suns out? Over .500? congrats on all your recent success...I hope you guys make the playoffs, and play the Hawks so I can go and see Joe Johnson drop 40 every game..G Wall is defo deserving of an All Star spot..

[CTownSC]

Congrats on barely beating them last night and pissing them off for us.

[spectre]

Congrats on barely beating them last night and pissing them off for us.

:hysterical:

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

..*looks at the standings*..

[ammofan]

Thanks man.......but JJ will not drop 40 on us......Crash and Jack would have him on LOCK

[SWedd523]

..*Looks at the list of best defenses in the NBA and laughs at this clown thinking Joe will average 40 against us*..






You can keep Joe. I'll take Crash's 18/11/2/2/1 or Jack's 20/5/4/2. Thanks

[Slam]

Crawford has been a sensational addition for the Hawks. I thought they were crazy when they made the move for him, but it's worked out really, really well for them.

The Hawks are a very challenging match up for us - pretty much at every position.

[BRNC]

Hawks have a solid team...but I'd love for us to meet as the 4-5 seeds...would be a great series...

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

Hawks have a solid team...but I'd love for us to meet as the 4-5 seeds...would be a great series...


a 4-0 sweep is considered a great series around here? lmao

[SWedd523]

Crawford has been a sensational addition for the Hawks. I thought they were crazy when they made the move for him, but it's worked out really, really well for them.

The Hawks are a very challenging match up for us - pretty much at every position.
People laughed at me when I said we should have picked him up. Luckily, we got Jack, but I still wish we had Crawford

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

People laughed at me when I said we should have picked him up. Luckily, we got Jack, but I still wish we had Crawford

yeah, i was mad we let flip go, but dam flip has really regressed over the offseason..Craw is much better.

[aznjustice14]

damn hawks and bobcats would be one of my preferred matchups...i just think we will get swept against boston or magic...boston has just dominated us this year in the matchups. cavs and hawks are who i really want to face in the first round. not saying that we are better by hawks yet even though we won by 20 at home...they definitely have legit matchups at every position

1. bibby vs felton - i think felton wins wth his defense and improved shooting
2. johnson vs jackson - pretty much a tie in my mind since they both can catch on fire and be near unstoppable
3. wallace vs. smith - i know wallace would prob get williams or whoever their 3 position is, but i think wallace and smith are just perfect matches to play against each other. smith will get more blocks but wallace will get the overall better game i think
4. diaw vs. williams - depends completely on which version of diaw shows up
5. nazr/tyson vs. horford - horford should pretty much dominate this matchup with a double double
6. murray vs. crawford - depends on who is is on fire at the time, both are streaky scorers.

[Slam]

Hawks have a solid team...but I'd love for us to meet as the 4-5 seeds...would be a great series...
It really would be. Two teams with solid fundamentals who are both athletic and play a pretty enticing style of game.

A great series it would be.

[Slam]

yeah, i was mad we let flip go, but dam flip has really regressed over the offseason..Craw is much better.
I wish Teague was getting some more burn.

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

damn hawks and bobcats would be one of my preferred matchups...i just think we will get swept against boston or magic...boston has just dominated us this year in the matchups. cavs and hawks are who i really want to face in the first round. not saying that we are better by hawks yet even though we won by 20 at home...they definitely have legit matchups at every position

1. bibby vs felton - i think felton wins wth his defense and improved shooting
2. johnson vs jackson - pretty much a tie in my mind since they both can catch on fire and be near unstoppable
3. wallace vs. smith - i know wallace would prob get williams or whoever their 3 position is, but i think wallace and smith are just perfect matches to play against each other. smith will get more blocks but wallace will get the overall better game i think
4. diaw vs. williams - depends completely on which version of diaw shows up
5. nazr/tyson vs. horford - horford should pretty much dominate this matchup with a double double
6. murray vs. crawford - depends on who is is on fire at the time, both are streaky scorers.


1. Bibby vs Felton...ehh yeah Felton wins this one, but Bibs has a spot up jumper, so that evens it out a bit. Felton cant defend.

2. Joe vs Jack. you serious? You're saying Stephon Jackson is just as good as joe? lol..Joe wins by a mile. Jack can shoot..but thats about it imo.

3. Wallace vs Marv..Woody would probably start Marv to play G wall. Marv can play some defense. He plays Lebron everytime we play the cavs, and is effective. G Wall is better, but I think Marv would do a good job holding him

4. Josh Smith vs Diaw. No way in hell borris diaw can hold Smoove.

5. Horf vs Tyson..Nazr doesn't stand a chance since Al does have a mid range J, but Tyson scares me, just because he is much taller. I think Woody would put zaza or even Randmo (our resident bench rider) on Tyson just because of the height.

Craw vs Flip..Flip has declined, but like you said they are both hot and cold guys, but I thin craw will be ready to play come playoff time..

sounds like a 4-1 series to me..

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

I wish Teague was getting some more burn.

so does Teague. ..we called up a guy named Mario West from the D League 2 games ago, and Woody has played him more than Teague lmao

[LadyCats Rule]

Nice. I've always hated the Falcons more than is probably healthy. This troll is helping me hate the Hawks enough to hope for a first round playoff battle. Bring it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMf40daefsI

[aznjustice14]

1. Bibby vs Felton...ehh yeah Felton wins this one, but Bibs has a spot up jumper, so that evens it out a bit. Felton cant defend.

2. Joe vs Jack. you serious? You're saying Stephon Jackson is just as good as joe? lol..Joe wins by a mile. Jack can shoot..but thats about it imo.

3. Wallace vs Marv..Woody would probably start Marv to play G wall. Marv can play some defense. He plays Lebron everytime we play the cavs, and is effective. G Wall is better, but I think Marv would do a good job holding him

4. Josh Smith vs Diaw. No way in hell borris diaw can hold Smoove.

5. Horf vs Tyson..Nazr doesn't stand a chance since Al does have a mid range J, but Tyson scares me, just because he is much taller. I think Woody would put zaza or even Randmo (our resident bench rider) on Tyson just because of the height.

Craw vs Flip..Flip has declined, but like you said they are both hot and cold guys, but I thin craw will be ready to play come playoff time..

sounds like a 4-1 series to me..

Actually i do consider joe a better player offensively, but jackson has the size and defense advantage so thats where it evens out a bit...and if jackson is shooting well like he has the past few games, he opens up the whole team for so much more.
i disagree when you say felton is a bad defender...he's so underrated, he really did a great job on tony parker and steve nash in the last two games imo and he also has a decent jumper this season unlike his past sub .400 shooting seasons.
with diaws sudden ability to decently defend big men (duncan and stoudamire), we might even play smallball against the hawks with wallace playing PF against smith and diaw goin vs. horford (horford will still get his double double no matter who we play against him i think).

our best lineup is with smallball so its actualy an advantage for us there. but considering our horrible away record and hawks great home record, then we would likely lose the playoff matchup.

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

Nice. I've always hated the Falcons more than is probably healthy. This troll is helping me hate the Hawks enough to hope for a first round playoff battle. Bring it!

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UMf40daefsI



not a troll, and I hate the Falcons..so..

[CatNation]

cool! you know you're good when you start getting trolls. hawks are ok but we are on a different level than them right now. its a shame we didnt have this roster the whole year at this level.

we spanked yall with raja bell anyway though rofl

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

cool! you know you're good when you start getting trolls. hawks are ok but we are on a different level than them right now. its a shame we didnt have this roster the whole year at this level.

we spanked yall with raja bell anyway though rofl

GRRRR I'm not a troll dammit!

[GoBobs]

I agree the home team will win the series, but it will be the bobcats with the four seed. Bobcats are only six games behind and will have a better record then the hawks by the end of the year.

[LadyCats Rule]

GRRRR I'm not a troll dammit!

Really?



One who posts a deliberately provocative message to a message board with the intention of causing maximum disruption and argument

Hmmmmm.

[Toocool]

1. Bibby vs Felton...ehh yeah Felton wins this one, but Bibs has a spot up jumper, so that evens it out a bit. Felton cant defend.

2. Joe vs Jack. you serious? You're saying Stephon Jackson is just as good as joe? lol..Joe wins by a mile. Jack can shoot..but thats about it imo.

3. Wallace vs Marv..Woody would probably start Marv to play G wall. Marv can play some defense. He plays Lebron everytime we play the cavs, and is effective. G Wall is better, but I think Marv would do a good job holding him

4. Josh Smith vs Diaw. No way in hell borris diaw can hold Smoove.

5. Horf vs Tyson..Nazr doesn't stand a chance since Al does have a mid range J, but Tyson scares me, just because he is much taller. I think Woody would put zaza or even Randmo (our resident bench rider) on Tyson just because of the height.

Craw vs Flip..Flip has declined, but like you said they are both hot and cold guys, but I thin craw will be ready to play come playoff time..

sounds like a 4-1 series to me..

Lawl. Stop smoking your crack sonny Jim. Please get your facts straight BEFORE you post, your incompetence is embarrassing, don't even know why you bother posting that crap.

1. Felton can defend. You ever watched a Bobcats game? Felton is a great on-ball defender, like tonight he shut down Nash, last game he shut down Parker. Felton > Bibby.

2. Jack can do more than score. Jack can spread the floor, shoot the three, pass, rebound, defend and look good at the same time. It's even here, both average around 20/5/5. They both can light it up. But we have one thing in our favour. Clutch. Jackson makes love to pressure. He loves clutch situations, and more often than not he performs perfectly. Jackson has always been clutch, back with the Spurs, and he's clutch now with the Bobcats.

3. Marv can defend. He can score, but I doubt he can hold Wallace. He's averaging 14/6, Wallace is 18/11. Not to mention Crash has the most heart and assuming this is in the playoffs, he wants this team to succeed. Except Marv to get his butt handed to him.

4. This all depends on what kind of Diaw turns up. If Diaw turns up, I expect Josh Smith to be crying all the way back to the locker room.

5. Al Horford is a decent player. Around a 13/10 guy, he's not bad. Horford will have trouble scoring on TC who has 3 inches on him. TC isn't terrible, he's not great either. If TC goes back to the way he was playing 2 years ago, Horford will have his hands full trying to contain him. Nazzy coming off the bench would also give Horford a headache.

Flip vs Craw: Depends on their shooting form.

Bench vs Bench: Bobcats win out on this one. Hawks have a crap bench, Bobcats have UPS and Nazzy, with Auggie (when he's playing good) to bring out.

Overall, it'll probably be a 4-2, maybe 4-3 most likely in favour of Bobcats.

So don't come with that crap and say "DUIY MAH HAWKZ BETTA THAN BOBCATZ." And PLEASE get your facts RIGHT before you post.

[SWedd523]

Let's do a little comparison:

Points: Joe (21) Jack (20)
Assists: Joe (5) Jack (4)
Rebounds: Joe (5) Jack (5)
Steals: Joe (1) Jack (2)
Blocks : Joe (0) Jack (1)

Identical if you add them up. Yet you say Joe wins by a mile. Slightly better offense vs. slightly better defense. Sure looks like a wash to me.



Then you say Marvin "Goofball" Williams isn't much of a drop off from Crash? Again, let's do a little comparison:

Points: Marvin (10) Crash (18.)
Assists: Marvin (1) Crash (2)
Rebounds: Marvin (5) Crash (11)
Steals: Marvin (1) Crash (2)
Blocks: Marvin (1) Crash (1)

Crash almost doubles him up (34 to 18.). Yet you say Marvin would do a good job holding him. Crash destroys the Cavs with LeBron (one of the best perimeter defenders) guarding him, but you think Marvin can?



Let's take the homer goggles off.

[kickazzz2000]

Felton cant defend.



Tony Parker and Steve Nash ask you to kindly STFU.

[Slam]

Let's do a little comparison:

Points: Joe (21) Jack (20)
Assists: Joe (5) Jack (4)
Rebounds: Joe (5) Jack (5)
Steals: Joe (1) Jack (2)
Blocks : Joe (0) Jack (1)

Identical if you add them up. Yet you say Joe wins by a mile. Slightly better offense vs. slightly better defense. Sure looks like a wash to me.
You're leaving out percentages and turn overs.

[SWedd523]

You're leaving out percentages and turn overs.
And I'm also leaving out pace, the player's role, the surrounding cast, the amount of time each has had in their respective systems, etc.

[CTownSC]

Are those #'s for Jack as a Bobcat or for the season?

[Fred Williamson]

We layed the smackdown on the Hawks at the beginning of the season and always play them hard. There's no question we will beat them in a playoffs series. Jax will lock Crawful down and you don't have to worry about the others because they always look awful offensively. And we don't have to worry about Johnson because he always disappears when it's playoff time. LOL.

[TheBeagle]

GRRRR I'm not a troll dammit! Yeah, I'll vouch for you, man. Guys, he is what his screen name indicates, a "random Atlanta Hawk fan" who has some interest in the Cats since he lives in North Carolina.

He's been a member for a little while here and hasn't posted anything hateful or demeaning to my knowledge and hasn't tried to incite any war or words either.

I think the point he's making is he wants a Hawks/Cats matchup so he can come to the TWC and watch a Hawks playoff game that he wouldn't otherwise be able to see. How anybody can be a Hawks fan after the way they treated 'Nique in '94 is beyond me (:p), but that's his thing, and he's always been civil here.

[Toocool]

He isn't a troll. That I agree with. I've had no problem with him posting, even though most of what he says is utterly useless. He's fine, until he talks about our players when he has NO idea what he's talking about.

He has a mouth and he put his foot in it by saying disrespectful things to our Bobcats. We don't go to a Atlanta hawks forum, have the title RandomBobcatsFan, have our avatar of ourselves with a camera posing and say "Well done on the standings, hope you reach the playoffs where we can play you at home so Stephen Jackson drops 50 on you and Wallace drops 30/20, and then we blow you out 4-0 AHUEHHEUHEE." That's disrespecting a franchise by saying they're incompetent, not just as players, but as defenders. And we all know that on a Bobcats team, defensive is life.

Note: I assume that the chap is a guy, if he is a girl or anything in between, then you have my apologies.

[BRNC]

Beagle...I lived in Atlanta and stopped being a Hawks fan in '94...can you guess why...:biggrin:

...and I still supported the NBA in general but did not support a team until the Bobcats came to be...I agree he is not a troll but is starting to "border" on it with the trash talk...

I made a point of saying the Hawks have a good team...hey JJ is (and always has been) one of my favorite players...but 'Cool is right about this...

I'd like the person (Random) to stay but the trash talk can leave...

[Ghost Kat]

Bobcats have been known to eat hawks, Not the other way around.

[RandomAtlantaHawkfan]

Lawl. Stop smoking your crack sonny Jim. Please get your facts straight BEFORE you post, your incompetence is embarrassing, don't even know why you bother posting that crap.

1. Felton can defend. You ever watched a Bobcats game? Felton is a great on-ball defender, like tonight he shut down Nash, last game he shut down Parker. Felton > Bibby.

2. Jack can do more than score. Jack can spread the floor, shoot the three, pass, rebound, defend and look good at the same time. It's even here, both average around 20/5/5. They both can light it up. But we have one thing in our favour. Clutch. Jackson makes love to pressure. He loves clutch situations, and more often than not he performs perfectly. Jackson has always been clutch, back with the Spurs, and he's clutch now with the Bobcats.

3. Marv can defend. He can score, but I doubt he can hold Wallace. He's averaging 14/6, Wallace is 18/11. Not to mention Crash has the most heart and assuming this is in the playoffs, he wants this team to succeed. Except Marv to get his butt handed to him.

4. This all depends on what kind of Diaw turns up. If Diaw turns up, I expect Josh Smith to be crying all the way back to the locker room.

5. Al Horford is a decent player. Around a 13/10 guy, he's not bad. Horford will have trouble scoring on TC who has 3 inches on him. TC isn't terrible, he's not great either. If TC goes back to the way he was playing 2 years ago, Horford will have his hands full trying to contain him. Nazzy coming off the bench would also give Horford a headache.

Flip vs Craw: Depends on their shooting form.

Bench vs Bench: Bobcats win out on this one. Hawks have a crap bench, Bobcats have UPS and Nazzy, with Auggie (when he's playing good) to bring out.

Overall, it'll probably be a 4-2, maybe 4-3 most likely in favour of Bobcats.

So don't come with that crap and say "DUIY MAH HAWKZ BETTA THAN BOBCATZ." And PLEASE get your facts RIGHT before you post.


1.Bibby isn't a drive to the basketball kind of guy. Can Felton defend a pick and roll, with Al setting the pick? All Bibs needs is a split second, and its a bucket. Bibs won't light him up, but all we need is his usual 12 points...

2. Stephon Jackson is no where near Joe Johnson man. Not even close. I've been hating on Joe this entire year, but Jack isn't on Vince Carters level, nvm Joe.

3...I didn't say Marv was better than Wall. Wall is a billion times better than Marv, but Marv will hold him. Marv holds Lebron, and like I said, is effective...if he can hold Lebron, you know he can hold Wall

4. Boris Diaw still has no shot.

5. I don't like the Tyson Al matchup, because, like I said, Tyson has 3,4 inchs on Al. So I think Zaza will play against Tyson, and Zaza would destory Tyson in all 4 games. Zaza competes with KG and other bigs a lot, and holds his own..plus he has a 15 footer, an we all know Tyson can't defend beyond the paint.

Craw vs Flip..like I said, both guys are hot and cold, but Craw will be ready to play come playoff time. He will probably be what gets us into the finals. Plus Flip on defense........

Craw will score at least 20 in every game. Zaza is good for 10, Mo Evans, and Joe Smith will score about 10 all together. Thats 40 points from our bench...Flip is good for 15, but other than that..ehhh.

[GoBobs]

what is the hawks record vs the bobcats this year again?

[Fred Williamson]

1.Bibby isn't a drive to the basketball kind of guy. Can Felton defend a pick and roll, with Al setting the pick? All Bibs needs is a split second, and its a bucket. Bibs won't light him up, but all we need is his usual 12 points...

2. Stephon Jackson is no where near Joe Johnson man. Not even close. I've been hating on Joe this entire year, but Jack isn't on Vince Carters level, nvm Joe.

3...I didn't say Marv was better than Wall. Wall is a billion times better than Marv, but Marv will hold him. Marv holds Lebron, and like I said, is effective...if he can hold Lebron, you know he can hold Wall

4. Boris Diaw still has no shot.

5. I don't like the Tyson Al matchup, because, like I said, Tyson has 3,4 inchs on Al. So I think Zaza will play against Tyson, and Zaza would destory Tyson in all 4 games. Zaza competes with KG and other bigs a lot, and holds his own..plus he has a 15 footer, an we all know Tyson can't defend beyond the paint.

Craw vs Flip..like I said, both guys are hot and cold, but Craw will be ready to play come playoff time. He will probably be what gets us into the finals. Plus Flip on defense........

Craw will score at least 20 in every game. Zaza is good for 10, Mo Evans, and Joe Smith will score about 10 all together. Thats 40 points from our bench...Flip is good for 15, but other than that..ehhh.


blablabla...

Forget about the individual matchups. We have the best defense in the league, and the best coach in the eastern conference. We layed the smackdown on the best teams in the league (as we did on the Hawks) and LB can outcoach anyone.


He will probably be what gets us into the finals.

http://www.neowin.net/forum/uploads/post-108813-1136869006.jpg

[Chef]

i think everyone needs to chill out. we aren't even at the all-star break. if the standings are the same at the end of march then i am sure we can set up a "trash talk" thread and enjoy the competitive banter. i think the hawks fan is taking advantage of our "virgin" fanhood when it comes to success and national attention. right now we are all on cloud nine (rightly so) and are just a little sensitive when it comes to trashing our team. also, i think the hawks fan is clearly forgetting about how awful the hawks look when they are not on. they are a very on and off team. and i think he is just a little worried that the hawks have been losing regularly to the nba elite for much of the past few months. either way lets keep this talk down until we are getting closer to the playoffs. then we can have all the discussions about how the hawks secretly want no part of the cats for a 7 game series.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

i think everyone needs to chill out. we aren't even at the all-star break. if the standings are the same at the end of march then i am sure we can set up a "trash talk" thread and enjoy the competitive banter. i think the hawks fan is taking advantage of our "virgin" fanhood when it comes to success and national attention. right now we are all on cloud nine (rightly so) and are just a little sensitive when it comes to trashing our team. also, i think the hawks fan is clearly forgetting about how awful the hawks look when they are not on. they are a very on and off team. and i think he is just a little worried that the hawks have been losing regularly to the nba elite for much of the past few months. either way lets keep this talk down until we are getting closer to the playoffs. then we can have all the discussions about how the hawks secretly want no part of the cats for a 7 game series.Excellent post Chef!!! I totally agree with you.

Before we get too excited let us see how things unfold at least up to the all star break. We must keep in mind that a season is totally unpredictable and that momentum comes and goes. As Bobcats fans, even with the Bobcats looking great right now, there will come some periods where the team may be a bit off. All teams have them. What we have to hope for as Bobcats fans is that we have few of them and are hot way more than cold.

The Bobcats are new to success and we have to see how they handle some sure to come adversity. How a young team rebounds from tough losses and struggles will say a lot about just how good those teams are. The great thing about the elite teams is that they are battle tested and know how to handle the tough times. Mental toughness is a part of what sets the elite teams apart from the teams seeking to be elite. Larry Brown is a good coach to have for that reason but again these Bobcats really have little experience in handling success. We have to hope that our favorite teams coach can adequately prepare the team to handle success in the right way.

Any way your post was very good Chef.

[Chef]

grassy ass mi amigo

[dav7z]

A Atlanta, Charlotte , first round would put lots of butts into the seats . It would be good for both clubs as both teams are underated.

[ND22]

Would love to see an Atlanta/Charlotte playoff matchup, I think it would create a little rivalry considering we are fairly close to each other geographically and play in the same conference. At this point though, any Charlotte playoff matchup would be great because the sheer thought of us in the playoffs is so awesome.

[Demon DeaCat]

I wish Teague was getting some more burn.


So do I, for obvious reasons. Better yet I wish he was still with the Deacs.

I'd like the Hawks in the playoffs, not because I don't think we're good enough to play with Bos, Cle or Orl, but because they're the only team the refs would give of a fighting chance against. We won't be allowed to guard Lebron, Pierce or Howard. In a close game everything will be a foul and we'd have almost no realistic shot at winning four games. Johnson is a great player but he won't get the megastar treatment those other three would receive. Cats/Hawks would be a great series and would fuel a great rivalry. I hope it happens.