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If a big trade comes up before the deadline, and we have to let go of one of these 2 players, who would you rather keep?
Brown finally seems to be a part of the rotation with Tyson out. He's also looking pretty good to be an undersized rookie at his position.
Henderson sadly is getting smothered on the pine because of Jackson and Flip who are more experienced and have a much better jumper than him.
Who knows what Henderson (who is more athletic and a better defender than flip and Jack)could do for us if he got serious minutes as a 2 guard?
This is a hard one for me... What would you do?
Fred Williamson
01-19-2010, 03:48 PM
You said it, no one knows what Henderson could do for us. Until then, I would like to keep him. Maybe he'll get his big chance next year if we don't resign Flip in the offseason.
ThaCoolest803
01-19-2010, 04:00 PM
I would rather keep Henderson. He has a defined position at the two guard whereas UPS is more of a tweener. A few years from now Gerald could be an all-nba defender which we will need to guard the big time scorers. I love UPS but i think Henderson will benefit us more in the long run. His offense should be improving as well being that he is learning from bonafide scorers in Jax and Flip.
110oldeast
01-19-2010, 04:28 PM
I don't necessarily think we need to trade either of them, but I don't see how we could justify trading Brown over Henderson, however. Besides being deeper at Henderson's position, Brown has shown in multiple instances in meaningful moments the ability to contribute with upside as well. I think as much as LB complains about wanting another PF, he would be well served using Brown more as a backup PF. He's a guy I would like to see more off, especially when we have to go against the Josh Smith's, Bosh's, etc.
GoBobs
01-19-2010, 04:35 PM
I would trade filp if I could get something for him. I would also trade ac law and would consider even trading jackson if we can get something good enough.
rsxnova
01-19-2010, 05:17 PM
We need to keep both because of the lack of new talent next year.
spectre
01-19-2010, 07:14 PM
I don't necessarily think we need to trade either of them, but I don't see how we could justify trading Brown over Henderson, however. Besides being deeper at Henderson's position, Brown has shown in multiple instances in meaningful moments the ability to contribute with upside as well. I think as much as LB complains about wanting another PF, he would be well served using Brown more as a backup PF. He's a guy I would like to see more off, especially when we have to go against the Josh Smith's, Bosh's, etc.
I think we will have to trade one of them (or DJ) before all's said or done, but other than that I agree with everything else 110 said.
Another knock on Hendo...he's pretty much stuck at 2, maybe 3 in a real pinch. LB likes players who can play multiple positions and that's not him. Not that is for every player, but that as well as being loaded at the 2 makes him the most expendable IMO.
dav7z
01-19-2010, 08:15 PM
I think we will have to trade one of them (or DJ) before all's said or done, but other than that I agree with everything else 110 said.
Another knock on Hendo...he's pretty much stuck at 2, maybe 3 in a real pinch. LB likes players who can play multiple positions and that's not him. Not that is for every player, but that as well as being loaded at the 2 makes him the most expendable IMO.
I think DJ would be the one to trade over either . He seems to have the least up side of the three . Beinig a carer back up isn't a bad thing though.
spectre
01-20-2010, 03:20 AM
He helps us more though.
Just think back to the McInnis years. I like having a good backup and he's pretty cheap all things considered. I'd much rather have him then the twice rans who'd cost at least as much.
Toocool
01-20-2010, 06:19 AM
Keep them both. Get rid of Graham/Flip instead
Brown has shown in multiple instances in meaningful moments the ability to contribute with upside as well.
Brown has been given a chance due to being painfully thin at the 4 spot.
Henderson hasn't been afforded the same luxury.
spectre
01-20-2010, 10:11 AM
Brown has been given a chance due to being painfully thin at the 4 spot.
Henderson hasn't been afforded the same luxury.
and odds are he won't this season. Maybe next season...but if I know Larry Brown he'll want another combo/big PG just like Flip if not Flip himself, which means he probably won't get a chance next year either.
I'd love to hang onto him, but I think some very difficult choices are going to have to be made.
and odds are he won't this season. Maybe next season...but if I know Larry Brown he'll want another combo/big PG just like Flip if not Flip himself, which means he probably won't get a chance next year either.
I'd love to hang onto him, but I think some very difficult choices are going to have to be made.
Agreed.
(8, 9, 10)
ebrown
01-20-2010, 11:19 AM
Why is everyone saying get rid of Flip? He is our 6th man that we have never had the luxury of having. He is very vital to this team and to think you would want to trade him away is ludicrous.
spectre
01-20-2010, 11:23 AM
Agreed on Flip. Don't see LB looking to move him at all.
Agreed.
(8, 9, 10)
Man I've been up since 3 AM so I'm dragging. Sorry but you're going to have to spell it out for me today.
Much like that line you threw out about the GSW SG who's out for the season...don't know if I'll ever live that one down. :facepalm:
If we trade anyone (and not hurt us this year and the future) (IMO) it should be any combo of AC/Hulk/AA...we will never get "true value" back for Hendo/UPS/DJ at this point so why give them away...?
Man I've been up since 3 AM so I'm dragging. Sorry but you're going to have to spell it out for me today.
Much like that line you threw out about the GSW SG who's out for the season...don't know if I'll ever live that one down. :facepalm:
Bahahahaha!! I noticed you started posting early this morning!!
The 8, 9, 10 thing was because of the 10 character min. Wouldn't let me just go with "Agreed".
I agree that I doubt Hendo will see much burn this year (send him to the D already for goodness sake!! Made the same mistake with Lexy last year). I'd LOVE to hang onto him, and maybe we will, but he is a guy who keeps getting DNP-CD's.
110oldeast
01-20-2010, 12:40 PM
Brown has been given a chance due to being painfully thin at the 4 spot.
Henderson hasn't been afforded the same luxury.
It also kind of reiterates my point about why Brown would be lower on my willing to trade list. Again, I didn't say trade either, but I did say if I HAD to choose, that I would not get rid of Brown. That said, I loved Brown's game in college and thought he was a bargain where we got him. He has bounce, skill, and versatility.
Henderson could turn out to be a terrific pick for us (I hope he does), but I think we too often get caught up in protecting what might be and ignoring what is. Like I said though, I am not specifically advocating trading either.
Ghost Kat
01-20-2010, 12:53 PM
IMO this is a silly thread. Brown isn't getting traded and neither will Henderson. Both have a huge upside and this franchise would be crazy to trade them right now. We held on to Sean may for almost 5 yrs hoping he'd get better, These guys aren't even injuried so if LB would actually let them play we could see better who we drafted. DJ also will not get traded for some supposed savior at PF. Diaw will be traded before DJ.
One thing you have to remember is sometimes organizations feel they almost have what they need to go all the way and win it all. Call me crazy, but how do we know Jordan, Coach Brown, and Higgins don't feel that way? If they do, they will be willing to part with a good rookie with upside, if they might can win it ALL now!
Larry Brown will not be on that sideline forever. I think they are ready to do whatever it takes to build a team that can compete for a Championship. If they are, wouldn't Boozer for Brown make a little more sense?
walkerl
01-21-2010, 08:28 AM
Exactly, Flip would be the last one I would trade. He can play the 1 or 2, and gives us a veteran presence.
Crash'sHeadband
01-21-2010, 08:35 AM
It's really crazy that you guys are talking about trading either UPS or Hendo. We're only a little more than 2 months into the season,give these guys at least one more full season to find their true worth. Remember we gave Adam Morrison two seasons to find out he was a bum,and Sean May 5 seasons to figure out he was a donut eating fatty. Trading either of them could turn out disasterous.
spectre
01-21-2010, 08:52 AM
You guys are ignoring where we are financially both now and in the near future. That's why now is different then during the years of the "Great White Hype". We held onto May because we had no backup PF.
And I see NO WAY we'd trade Boris...a starter who has been a big contributor over this win streak...over any bench player.
I still say "if" we make a trade it will be a small one...AC/Hulk whatever they can bring as far as a back-up PF...I doubt anyone other than those two (maybe Lexy) is moved...
Ghost Kat
01-21-2010, 09:25 PM
About the money, Rookies and second yr guys would be the last to trade if they have a up side in a growing franchise.They have the shortest cheapest contracts of "long term" players. Diaw is the perfect one to trade. He's a Vet with value to someone ( other then me ) All three centers have horrible contracts abd I would give Wallace and Capt. Jack my first born if they asked nicely.
SWedd523
01-21-2010, 09:45 PM
Larry Brown will not be on that sideline forever. I think they are ready to do whatever it takes to build a team that can compete for a Championship. If they are, wouldn't Boozer for Brown make a little more sense?
I'd love to do a Boozer for Brown trade. Only problem is, Boozer makes about 27x what Brown does. 12mil for 450K doesn't equal out very well.....
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