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ND22
01-31-2010, 11:36 AM
I've been thinking about this, and I'm not trying to take anything away from Gerald's performance this year because what he does for us goes beyond stats alone but I'm just curious. Lets say Okafor was still here, what do you think Wallace's numbers would be? I still say he averages the same amount of points, but I think his rebound numbers are down a little bit. Now I still say he's an all star, but a lot of reporters used Wallace's huge increase in rebounds to make a case for his all-star selection. We all have our criticisms about Meke, but the guy was like a vacuum on the boards.

So to sum it up, how do you think Wallace's numbers would be different this year with Okafor still here?

Fred Williamson
01-31-2010, 01:10 PM
He wouldn't average 12rpg, but more like 9 or 10, which is still an impressive number for a 6'7" SF

Dcarnys
01-31-2010, 02:04 PM
Yhea Crash's numbers would probably go down but not too much. Ethier way if we could get Mek, Jack and crash playing well together. :o That would be a thing of beauty.

Ghost Kat
01-31-2010, 04:35 PM
He had eight rebounds a game with Okafor in the lineup for every game last year. I doubt it would drop below that

GoBobs
01-31-2010, 08:01 PM
Sometimes TC and often Diaw leave the paint to guard there man further from the basket. Oak wouldn't leave the paint on D for any reason. I don't see much difference between Mek and Naz so I think GW shows the improvement he has shown with or without Mek.

BETCATS
01-31-2010, 08:13 PM
Call me crazy, but i think Gerald would have better numbers WITH Okafor.
When Tyson is playing, he was a non-threat on offense. He wouldnt get touches and when he did he would just commit a turnover. This allows opposing centers to pay more attention to Gerald and put more presure on Gerald. At one point this year, the Bobcats were #1 in the league in shot attemps blocked, and it has everything to do with the fact we have no post presence.

Last year everyone wanted Okafor to 'dunk the damm ball' (which he did rather uncreditily, check my profile picture) but nobody was saying Emeka was not a post presence. It actually annoyed me that Larry didnt really give Emeka any touches/didnt draw up any plays to utlize Emeka's post moves. I guess he was hung up on the fact Emeka was not dunking the damm ball.:(

Gerald also gets 0 help on the box out this year. Nobody is clearing people out of the way for him. Many times i have seen Gerald fighting for rebounds with 2-4 players on the opposing teams, many times i have seen Gerald win such battles. Diaw and Tyson are both non-factors in rebounding, and nobody else has potential to average more than 5-6 rebounds a game in the current playtime situation. If Okafor was still here, Gerald would have help clearing out the paint and would probably get a few extra rebounds, since he wouldnt be fighting with everybody on the other team to get them. It might be fair to say that Emeka would take a few rebounds away, but since he provides open rebounding lanes he also adds a few. Thus, the Emeka effect is cancelled out at worst.

Overall assesment aka summary of my wall of text - Gerald would average more points/the same - more rebounds

ND22
01-31-2010, 10:50 PM
BETCATS, you bring up a good point. I've seen the same thing you are, which is Gerald constantly fighting by himself to grab rebounds. I'm not say Nazr is worthless on the boards, but he's just not the rebounder that Meke is. Hopefully, when Tyson returns, he actually acts like the rebound machine he's supposed to be.

teej
02-01-2010, 01:03 AM
Hopefully, when Tyson returns, he actually acts like the rebound machine he's supposed to be.

Or, really, anything close would be acceptable :facepalm: