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superb1
02-01-2010, 09:22 AM
According to the Sacramento Bee, the Charlotte Bobcats would be interested in a deal with the Kings surrounding Jason Thompson.

The Kings would like a big in return, with Charlotte having excess big men available in a trade.

ohara831
02-01-2010, 09:32 AM
If the deal is right, heck yeah I would love him in a Bobcat's uniform! Just dont want to give up too much. Nazr has been very good for us this season, but he is getting long in the tooth. And Thompson is a young pup with lots of upside.

BETCATS
02-01-2010, 09:37 AM
Take your pick of our bigs, Sacremento, i wouldnt even be opposed to giving you all of them (besides Derrick Brown, if you consider him a big).

Chef
02-01-2010, 09:45 AM
we keep nazr. he is a very big part of this teams success. he is playing at or above his pay level and next year he is an expiring. on an emotional level, he suffered through the bad, worked hard and is now seeing success, let him have it. if they want a big how about offering:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfhx6es

if it doesn't copy:
diop
hendo

thompson
garcia

why them: we get rid of diop, they need a defensive big and get rid of a long contract they probably don't need considering martin and evans and udrich, plus they get a nice young player to play with evans and martin who doesn't need the ball and plays defense

why us: we get thompson, we can use garcia as a 6th man, he can spell minutes for both wallace and jackson, sure his contract is expensive and long but at least we can use him as opposed to expensive and long and unusable like diops

spectre
02-01-2010, 10:13 AM
I think it'd have to be something like Nazr/DJ for Thompson/Udrih.

Obviously I'd prefer something with TC and get Kenny Thomas' expiring but I can't believe they'd take him on (same goes with Gana).

I'd do any of those. It'd hurt to lose Nazr but LB likes playing small which Thompson would allow more of...and TC is supposed to be back any day.

ammofan
02-01-2010, 10:22 AM
Lets make a deal!

SirBobcat
02-01-2010, 10:28 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfsoqh2

Nocioni, Thompson, and Udrih for Tyson Chandler, DJ, and Raja Bell trade exception

What's good for Sacramento? I find it hard to believe that they'll trade Thompson without getting something to help them long term. The cap savings on Chandler's deal happens at the end of next season while getting rid of 2 salaries they really would like to get off the books while adding a Young PG they can start.

What's good for Charlotte? Adding a young stud PF without having to give up Boris Diaw is a huge plus. You get rid of, apparent, deadweight in Chandler, but losing DJ will hurt. Taking on salaries in Udrih and Nocioni but they've been productive players for the Kings this year, so they should provide quality depth in areas the Bobcats can use.

SirBobcat
02-01-2010, 10:29 AM
"I think if we're going to trade for another player and take on significant money, you'd have to feel like you're getting some real bang for your dollar," Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie told The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/sports/story/2502629-p2.html).


With that in mind, it's probably unlikely the Kings will trade Jason Thompson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3462) to Charlotte. Sources tell the newspaper that the Bobcats would be "very motivated" by a deal involving the power forward.


The Bobcats are stacked with frontcourt players with limited trade value.


Frontcourt players the Kings might have interest in could be Andris Biedrins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2427) and Brendan Haywood (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1000).

ammofan
02-01-2010, 10:46 AM
"I think if we're going to trade for another player and take on significant money, you'd have to feel like you're getting some real bang for your dollar," Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie told The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/sports/story/2502629-p2.html).


With that in mind, it's probably unlikely the Kings will trade Jason Thompson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3462) to Charlotte. Sources tell the newspaper that the Bobcats would be "very motivated" by a deal involving the power forward.


The Bobcats are stacked with frontcourt players with limited trade value.


Frontcourt players the Kings might have interest in could be Andris Biedrins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2427) and Brendan Haywood (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1000).

Why dont WE try to get Biedrins or Haywood? lol

spectre
02-01-2010, 10:47 AM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yfsoqh2

Nocioni, Thompson, and Udrih for Tyson Chandler, DJ, and Raja Bell trade exception

What's good for Sacramento? I find it hard to believe that they'll trade Thompson without getting something to help them long term. The cap savings on Chandler's deal happens at the end of next season while getting rid of 2 salaries they really would like to get off the books while adding a Young PG they can start.

What's good for Charlotte? Adding a young stud PF without having to give up Boris Diaw is a huge plus. You get rid of, apparent, deadweight in Chandler, but losing DJ will hurt. Taking on salaries in Udrih and Nocioni but they've been productive players for the Kings this year, so they should provide quality depth in areas the Bobcats can use.

I don't like taking both Udrih & Nocioni. Udrih has also been playing pretty well so I'm not sure they'd consider him a bad contract.

One I put on RGM:

TC/DJ/Law

for

KT (expiring)/Nocioni/Thompson

This one splits TC's last year into 2 parts giving us approx. 6 million in additional capspace next year which we can use to sign Felton and add some more pieces. Tho I don't like Noc at least we'd be using him to better ourselves financially & he's a fair backup SF.

SAC would be getting a good backcourt mate to Evans in DJ and help spur moving Martin. TC would be their gamble, but at least he'd be a big expiring next season which they could do something with.

SirBobcat
02-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Why would the Kings get rid of a 8-9 million dollar expiring?

spectre
02-01-2010, 11:06 AM
Why would the Kings get rid of a 8-9 million dollar expiring?

Cuz they'd be getting rid of Noc, who was supposedly the guy they most want to move.

KT was mentioned in the article

We have to really pay attention to salary next season. Right now we're at 59 million bucks, we're looking at a luxury tax of about 65 million and we still need to sign Felton. Even after we re-sign Felton we'll only have 11 players on the roster.

Something has GOT to give. Regardless of how well we do the FO isn't going to pay the LT as it'd end up costing them around 5-6 million bucks.

Mustachio
02-01-2010, 12:03 PM
Great news. I was discussing ways to get Jason Thompson about 2 weeks ago with BigCatBobcat. tried a bunch of combinations, but never saw one that i thought could work. I just dont see us as having anything they would covet, that i would be willing to let go.

That said, if there was ever a time to look at a deal for thompson it would be now, as he has had a down month or so. value is down. In my opinion, though Thompson is the kind of guy that can make us a real threat. a legitimate big PF that can interchange with Diaw would be a huge asset for us. and to get one as young as JT, would be special.

Bobcats...please make this happen.

GOBOBCATS24
02-01-2010, 12:06 PM
Right now Jason Thompsons trade value is the worst it will be probably in his whole career. Hes going through the slump of his life right now so we shouldnt have to give up too much to get him. I don't wanna trade Gerald Henderson but if the Kings would bite on that Diop+Hendo to sactown for JT and Garcia I would pull the trigger on that trade in a heartbeat. Thats about what Thompson and Garcia are worth right now because garcia has been injury prone for a while now. I dont know how much he would enjoy coming off the bench behind diaw but I think we could make it work. Nazr gets limited minutes even as a starter and we don't know what will happen with TC or if he will get injured again or something. so the minutes could be there for JT

superb1
02-01-2010, 12:12 PM
kenny and jt for chandler works maybe we can throw draft picks too

Fred Williamson
02-01-2010, 12:15 PM
Ray/Jax/Crash/Thompson/Nazr and Diaw as a sixth man?

I would jizz in my pants

CatNation
02-01-2010, 12:18 PM
dj flip ups jt naz

that 2nd line is sick. I'm fine with lettin hendo go but I'd rather keep DJ around..

spectre
02-01-2010, 12:32 PM
They're loaded at the 2, so I don't see them wanting Hendo.

They also really like Garcia.

DirtyU11
02-01-2010, 12:44 PM
this is the only trade i would do for JT

Diop, Law, Raja trade exception (JT's contract amount)

for

JT and Kenny Thomas

I dont think the bobcats would be willing to take on Noc's or Garcia's contracts while trying to keep Ray next year. We just dont have a owner that willing to pay the luxury tax and if we take on one of the above contracts Ray is probably gone. so look at the trade as Ray, Diop, Law, Trade exp for JT and KT would you do that?? no, none of us on here would.

TheLegend
02-01-2010, 12:59 PM
I would love to get Casspi as well with Thompson.

polarcat
02-01-2010, 01:02 PM
i wonder if a diop or tc + ajinca would work for them? they want a big man and they get one of either diop or tc and ajinca as a young pf/c that would ease the loss of thompson. i don't know $$ wise how it would work but i'd rather hold onto dj, hendo and ups. if we did get thompson we would be solid all around and regain some of our youth back that we've moved away from with recent trades.

GOBOBCATS24
02-01-2010, 01:19 PM
yeah the only way i would include dj in this trade is if we could get casspi in return too. JT and Casspi for dj and diop/nazr. Casspi is good and he is a playmaker who has tons of upside. Also did you see how many israeli's came to the kings game at TWC? that would be good for ticket sales. I had a dream last night that we got shaq. hahaha

GoBobs
02-01-2010, 02:25 PM
this is the only trade i would do for JT

Diop, Law, Raja trade exception (JT's contract amount)

for

JT and Kenny Thomas

I dont think the bobcats would be willing to take on Noc's or Garcia's contracts while trying to keep Ray next year. We just dont have a owner that willing to pay the luxury tax and if we take on one of the above contracts Ray is probably gone. so look at the trade as Ray, Diop, Law, Trade exp for JT and KT would you do that?? no, none of us on here would.

I could do this one

If we were willing to trade naz I think we could get fernandez or batum from the blazers. The wizards want fernandez and batum for haywood.

westbrook08
02-01-2010, 02:25 PM
If I'm looking at it from both teams sides I say the deal that would work the best is Chandler,Ajinca,and the Bell trade exception For Thompson,And Thomas.It works For Sacramento because we have already paid over half of Chandler's salary this year and they could use the trade exception money to cut it down even more.This will save them quite a bit of money after next year or give them a great trade chip.Also Ajinca makes less than Thompson I believe and this gives them a good young prospect in addition to saving money.For Charlotte This will give them the PF prospect they have wanted in Thompson and give them a great vet in Thomas who will not only help this year but,can also be resigned very cheaply in the offseason and still allow us to re-sign Felton and avoid the luxury tax.That's just my take.Thoughts?

Demon DeaCat
02-01-2010, 02:29 PM
"I think if we're going to trade for another player and take on significant money, you'd have to feel like you're getting some real bang for your dollar," Kings basketball president Geoff Petrie told The Sacramento Bee (http://www.sacbee.com/sports/story/2502629-p2.html).


With that in mind, it's probably unlikely the Kings will trade Jason Thompson (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=3462) to Charlotte. Sources tell the newspaper that the Bobcats would be "very motivated" by a deal involving the power forward.


The Bobcats are stacked with frontcourt players with limited trade value.


Frontcourt players the Kings might have interest in could be Andris Biedrins (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=2427) and Brendan Haywood (http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/players/profile?playerId=1000).

I agree with this. While the possibility is intriguing, I just don't see that anyone we have is going to provide the bang for their buck that Petrie is looking for. Thompson has the potential to be a future star. They aren't going to give him up for our marginally talented, old, or oft-injured big men.

It's very telling that the article only says we'd be interested in a trade. It certainly doesn't indicate that Sac is interested in trading with us.

Chef
02-01-2010, 02:33 PM
They're loaded at the 2, so I don't see them wanting Hendo.

They also really like Garcia.

i thought hendo was a 3. they may like garcia, but with evans, martin and udrich, he is going to be a very expensive bench player.

ohara831
02-01-2010, 03:02 PM
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2010/02/brown-east-coach-of-the-month.html

Bonnell's take. Not likely to happen.

superb1
02-01-2010, 03:03 PM
this justed reported by Rick Bonnell

On a separate matter, I wouldn't put much stock in this rumor that the Bobcats could end up with Sacramento Kings power forward Jason Thompson. That's not to say the Bobcats woudn't love to have Thompson. However, Kings coach Paul Westphal is very high on Thompson's potential, so I don't see what the Bobcats could realistically offer that would get the Kings to give him up.

What could bear watching in Sacramento is unused veteran forward Kenny Thomas. If Thomas were to negotiate a buyout of this last season on his contract (about $8.77 million), it's conceivable the Bobcats could sign him for the rest of the season to offer some experience behind Boris Diaw at power forward.

Ghost Kat
02-01-2010, 03:13 PM
it's conceivable the Bobcats could sign him for the rest of the season to offer some experience behind Boris Diaw at power forward.

How bout bringing in some actuall talent and a player with heart. Every night i watch Diaw go through the motions. I'm still much happier with UPS on the floor if Diaw's the big man. but getting Thompson would be great if it was possible. I don't want to trade DJ for him.

teej
02-01-2010, 04:09 PM
I'd take KT for sure. He hasn't played poorly at all and is the defender that Diaw isn't and Brown is still learning to be.

As far as JT, I'd see us having to give up Dj and Lexy for it to work.

rsxnova
02-01-2010, 04:15 PM
We just need to make a move before he gains value again.

Weezy21
02-01-2010, 04:26 PM
bobcats get- thompson, nocioni

kings get- tmac, henderson, acie, diop

rockets get- kmart, udrih, kenny thomas, lexy

We do this to beef up the inside.

Kings do this do get out of bad contracts in udrih, nocioni, but have to move kmart(who isnt playing good with evans anyway)...become players in FA.

Rockets do this an can move battier to 6th man and add depth at the point.

teej
02-01-2010, 04:31 PM
^For the love of God, why would Daryl Morey turn T-Mac into K-Mart and Beno?

Dcarnys
02-01-2010, 04:48 PM
I still say Diaw for Trow Murphy.

mrtarheel
02-01-2010, 09:24 PM
Here is the answer to everyones prayers

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yh8rjgp

or

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=yhjvc6r

spectre
02-01-2010, 09:30 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=15152


As good as they've been, they're still not a sure-fire playoff team, and according to several sources the Bobcats could be closing in on a deal with the Sacramento Kings that would make them even better.

This makes it sound like it's actually getting close.

Felton for Prez
02-01-2010, 09:39 PM
http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=15152



This makes it sound like it's actually getting close.


Sadly, I'm calling BS. After all I've read today, I just don't think its going to happen.

spectre
02-01-2010, 10:01 PM
If we do a trade I expect to get screwed in it. I figure the Jax trade will mean the next 3 will be really bad.

ALuhrs704
02-01-2010, 10:17 PM
man if we could get thompson, i really really like our chances in the playoffs. i feel like wallace jax n nazi would be a big boost for thompson confidence and provide him with some type of mentoring. not in a big man sense, but just as a man if that makes sense

SWedd523
02-01-2010, 11:00 PM
If we seriously get Thompson and retain Felts, Jack, Crash, and Nazr then we seriously have a fire team.

ND22
02-02-2010, 01:03 AM
I pray that its true and I pray we don't get screwed. Diop can go, Tyson can go, even Diaw possibly, but (and I can't believe I'm saying this) do not trade Nazr! Yeah he's old, but he's playing with a purpose, and we need that.

TattoodCats4life
02-02-2010, 01:23 AM
Best thing I can think of is TC for JT and Nocioni and for the pleasure of getting rid of Nocioni they send us their second (I don't see that they have an extra first, but if they somehow get a late first that'd be even sweeter, but figure their second is going to be in the mid-30s so either way not terrible). That'd give us an early, middle and late 2nd round pick (Kings, our's, Phoenix's).

BRNC
02-02-2010, 01:29 AM
I'm not sure why the Kings have soured on a second year player averaging 13pts. and close to 9 rebounds a game...(but I've been off the net for over a week and I'm trying to catch up)...I would think (and hope) our FO would make a trade to get him if we don't have to give up a key player...but I honestly don't get them "giving" away Thompson for any of our left-overs...and I include TC in the left-over category...

tamburello
02-02-2010, 04:29 AM
I'm not sure why the Kings have soured on a second year player averaging 13pts. and close to 9 rebounds a game

Maybe because of that fact: http://espn.go.com/nba/statistics/player/_/stat/fouls

BRNC
02-02-2010, 10:22 AM
...you could be correct tam...fouls look like a problem...but that can be corrected...JT is a smart kid and very active defensively so that may explain part of it but you're still getting solid production when he's in the game...he is in all of the "best 5" (all 10) floor units (82 games) for the Kings so I'm not sure how they'll improve moving him...but I'd be fine with us getting him...I'm not sure we do that without including Nazzy though...

Brown'sTown
02-02-2010, 01:08 PM
If I'm looking at it from both teams sides I say the deal that would work the best is Chandler,Ajinca,and the Bell trade exception For Thompson,And Thomas.It works For Sacramento because we have already paid over half of Chandler's salary this year and they could use the trade exception money to cut it down even more.This will save them quite a bit of money after next year or give them a great trade chip.Also Ajinca makes less than Thompson I believe and this gives them a good young prospect in addition to saving money.For Charlotte This will give them the PF prospect they have wanted in Thompson and give them a great vet in Thomas who will not only help this year but,can also be resigned very cheaply in the offseason and still allow us to re-sign Felton and avoid the luxury tax.That's just my take.Thoughts?

This is the only trade I've seen so far that really works. Unlike a lot of you, I'd have no problem giving up Hendo and/or DJ in a deal that would land Thompson. There's no reason to think either of those guys will be better than JT and we need a good PF more than we need DJ or Hendo. The problem is that the Kings probably have no interest in either of them. Evans, Udrih and Rodrigez all appear to be better than DJ and I don't see Henderson doing anything soon. I don't know why the Kings wouldn't want to stay put on what they have. Maybe move Kenny Thomas? They've got cap room and tons of great young talent, moving Thompson sounds silly to me. I really, REALLY want to move Diop, but I don't see it happening. We blew it in the draft when we picked DJ instead of Lopez when Okafor was the only productive big man on the roster, which lead to us being the suckers that got Diop fresh into his outrageous contract. I'm not sure if I can ever like DJ because of how angry that draft and the subsequent Diop trade made me, though that's definitely misplaced anger. Everytime I see his face I think about how we could have had Lopez and never traded for Diop. With the cap going down, who would take that contract?

BRNC
02-02-2010, 03:07 PM
The Kings have always had interest in DJ...so not quite correct there...and giving up both DJ and Hendo is too much...one or the other (probably DJ) would work...particularly if we're taking back a player they don't want...and a major gripe (before the Jackson trade) I've had with the FO is not taking advantage when another team wants to move a player...if the Kings (do indeed) want to move JT we need to take advantage...but (IMO) it would cost us DJ/Nazzy which is certainly enough if we have to take Nocioni in the deal...

spectre
02-02-2010, 04:03 PM
I'm pretending they want TC instead of Nazr. :p

Actually, from what I've read they want a "banger"/defender. TC (healthy) is much moreso that than Nazr is.

teej
02-02-2010, 04:56 PM
Actually, from what I've read they want a "banger"/defender. TC (healthy) is much moreso that than Nazr is.

Heh. I put in

Tc/DJ/Hendo/Gana and a pick or two for JT/Noch/Brockman/KT

I'm dreaming, right?

BRNC
02-02-2010, 05:06 PM
yep...dreaming...JT/Noc is possible...but again other than DJ (and Geoff does like him) I'm not sure who/what they'd take...

SWedd523
02-04-2010, 08:52 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatch-100204&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_ch ad%26page%3dTradeWatch-100204

any insiders care to give an insight?

rsxnova
02-05-2010, 03:18 AM
Kenny Thomas is the only King listed(other than Kevin). The list goes over most of the big names like Amare, Murphy, Jamison, etc.

JamieMcNeill
02-05-2010, 08:32 AM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatch-100204&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_ch ad%26page%3dTradeWatch-100204

any insiders care to give an insight?

The article is pretty worthless. It just lists players likely to be traded (no J Thomp) but doesnt really say who could go after any of the players beyond the obvious contenders looking to add another piece, and of course, the Amare saga. I could have wrote it.

Brown'sTown
02-05-2010, 12:59 PM
The article is pretty worthless. It just lists players likely to be traded (no J Thomp) but doesnt really say who could go after any of the players beyond the obvious contenders looking to add another piece, and of course, the Amare saga. I could have wrote it.

Does the insider ever give you any real information you couldn't find elsewhere?

Slam
02-05-2010, 02:22 PM
http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/insider/columns/story?columnist=ford_chad&page=TradeWatch-100204&action=login&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2finsider%2fcolumns%2fstory%3fcolumnist%3dford_ch ad%26page%3dTradeWatch-100204

any insiders care to give an insight?
1. Stoudemire
2. Murphy
3. Hinrich
4. Butler
5. Iguodala
6. Prince
7. Allen
8. N.Robinson
9. Jamison
10. Dalembert
11. Howard
12. Martin
13. A. Jefferson
14. Harris
15. Bosh

Expiring contracts:

1. Illgauskas
2. McGrady
3. Boozer
4. Haywood
5. K. Thomas

SWedd523
02-05-2010, 02:35 PM
Thanks guys, nothing really out of the obvious it appears