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From Lexy's facebook
Alexis Ajinca: is out for 6-8 weeks and need a surgery for my right thumb it will be friday normaly ;-(
Well, that's not good. :rolleyes:
It is what it is...better him than one of our starters...but makes it difficult (not impossible) to include him in a trade though...
It is what it is...better him than one of our starters...but makes it difficult (not impossible) to include him in a trade though...
I don't see anyone trading for him now, I hardly saw him before, but now they can't evaluate him at all, so no team is going to take a risk. At least we get to see what we have...
Well...for me...what I've seen (including the D-League time) from AA has me ranking him "bust"...and I'm not sure any other team ranks him as anything other than that...his numbers might make another trade work...that (IMO) was all he was good for at this point in time...if another team really wanted a deal with us and his numbers were needed they'd waive the "physical" knowing they get him expiring next year for not much money...
His injury changes nothing as far as his value (since he has none)...again...my opinion...
spectre
02-02-2010, 03:12 PM
Seriously...am I the only one who's totally given up/forgotten about this guy? It was pretty obvious he was "Plan X" because our targets were gone...and by the time he could possibly log meaningful minutes LB will probably be retired (dead).
Since this is about tall skinny guys we've wasted picks on...get a load of this:
The Hollins starter/Love 6th man overreaction thread (http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=22&t=982620&start=0)
off the Minny RGM board.
Twiggy is starting? I know Minny sucks, but still. Are they calling Jeff McInnis next?
That is just down right sad...and AA is always far from my thoughts...as any "bad penny" should be...LOL
WarioVsMooChicken
02-02-2010, 03:33 PM
He's been absolutely dominating lately in the D-League. I think it's still too early to call him a bust.
Dcarnys
02-02-2010, 04:43 PM
Now apperently he needs surgery on his right thumb.
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/100202_ajinca_release.html
Toocool
02-03-2010, 09:34 AM
He was actually starting to look somewhat consistent in the D-league too. That'll set him back a chunk.
GoBobs
02-03-2010, 12:06 PM
http://www.nba.com/dleague/maine/redclawsallstarselections20100202.html
Ampsportsduo
02-03-2010, 03:08 PM
Seriously, this thread gets that title? He's not even on the roster. I would understand if we just lost game 7 of a playoff series to the Celtics and Ray Allen hit a dagger to end it, but AA? Flightplanet (just trying it out) doesn't need Fuck splashed across the threads, especially not for AA. For the record, I'm still not buying the hype. There's a dirth of quality bigmen in the league, so it's even thinner in the D-league. With Tyson being out, you'd think the team would've brought him back if they believed he could contribute. Maybe they're hopeful he's raising his trade value.
CarolinaBlue704
02-03-2010, 03:55 PM
I haven't given up on Ajinca yet.Hes been tearing it up in the D-League.I read an article that said he was chosen to be on the NBDL All-Star team prior to this injury.He also put on a lot of weight,im talking 20-30 pounds.The NBDL broadcasts have been listing him at 255.
So im not sure why anyone would label him as a bust.We knew he would be a project that would take some time to develop.This wasn't a guy who was expected to come in and contribute right away.Hes only 21,he still has a lot to improve on,but hes worlds better than he was when he was drafted.Hes clearly been working his butt off in the D-League and im willing to give him credit for that.I just hope this injury doesn't set him back too far.
Seriously, this thread gets that title? He's not even on the roster. I would understand if we just lost game 7 of a playoff series to the Celtics and Ray Allen hit a dagger to end it, but AA? Flightplanet (just trying it out) doesn't need Fuck splashed across the threads, especially not for AA. For the record, I'm still not buying the hype. There's a dirth of quality bigmen in the league, so it's even thinner in the D-league. With Tyson being out, you'd think the team would've brought him back if they believed he could contribute. Maybe they're hopeful he's raising his trade value.
A) It was what came to mind immediately after I heard.
B) It's not so much the injury alone, as the total sum frustration over what Lexy has or hasn't amounted to.
C) There's no ban on cursing (or just about everyone here would be banned) and it's neither on the BCP frontpage or the forum frontpage.
And he has tremendous talent, just lots of issues.
Flightplanet? Sounds like NASA. Bobcatsplanet sounds better. And Cougarsplanet sounds like a woman pedophile forum with that new show 'Cougartown' out now.
I would never say a guy (particularly a 7 footer in a league where 6'9" is big) averaging (14.6 points and 7.8 rebounds) is "tearing up the league"...that would be a major stretch for me...
The other problem I have with those numbers...it is NBADL...if those were NBA numbers I could live with them...but those numbers are coming against smaller guys...so bust...at this point (IMO) he's a bust...25ppg and 12rpg from him in the NBADL might give me hope but these numbers...from a 7 footer in the D-league...not really exciting to me...:thumbdown:
CarolinaBlue704
02-03-2010, 06:19 PM
I would never say a guy (particularly a 7 footer in a league where 6'9" is big) averaging (14.6 points and 7.8 rebounds) is "tearing up the league"...that would be a major stretch for me...
The other problem I have with those numbers...it is NBADL...if those were NBA numbers I could live with them...but those numbers are coming against smaller guys...so bust...at this point (IMO) he's a bust...25ppg and 12rpg from him in the NBADL might give me hope but these numbers...from a 7 footer in the D-league...not really exciting to me...:thumbdown:
Yes,and im sure many people thought Wallace was gonna be a bust when he was 21.Not saying hes gonna turn into a All-Star like Wallace.But what I am saying is that hes only 21,and we knew he would be a project.Before he was drafted scouts were saying it would probably take 2-3 years for Ajinca to come into him own.The potential is still there,hes just gotta continue to work hard.Its way too early to label him as a bust.
And what you're over looking with Ajinca,is the fact hes only playing 26 minutes per game.So him putting up 14.6 ppg,7.6 rpg and 3.1 bpg is pretty good if you ask me.And he had some great games recently before he got hurt.
25pts 16rebs 4blks in 29 minutes against the Stampede
27pts 10rebs in 25 minutes against the Jam
26pts 13rebs 10blks in 44 minutes against the Toros
After watching Ajinca recently,he has clearly improved a lot.Hes also bulked up quite a bit.And im willing to give him credit for his hard work unlike you.
He is only playing 26 mins. a game because he can't stay out of foul trouble...and as old as I am it is a stretch for me to rmember anyone draftes as high as this "kid" so unprepared (if ever) to play in the NBA...and frankly real "kids" have come into the NBA younger than AA and have been starters...so quoting his age just does not give him a break...here is what gives him a break...
He did not draft himself...and yes...it was a very poor pick...there were better, closer, NBA-ready players available...he was so raw and lacking in skill he got what...3 minutes a game on a weak French pro team...and I read no scout that even thought this guy should/outta be a first round pick...a serious reach if I've ever seen one...
...and again...the "stuff" he is showing in the NBADL...as a 7 footer...against what size guys...I'll say again I hope I'm wrong but even our FO (and LB) had serious doubts about even extending him...he was a reach...and not a good one...
and as old as I am it is a stretch for me to rmember anyone draftes as high as this "kid" so unprepared (if ever) to play in the NBA
Does the name, oh, Gerald Wallace, ring a bell?
He was drafted in basically the same spot at basically the same age and did NOTHING his first 3 seasons, and were it not for the Bobcats joining the league, may never have.
Or maybe this year's #22 pick, Victor Claver, who is still playing overseas because he isn't ready.
What about Yaroslav Korolev? He was #12...
TattoodCats4life
02-04-2010, 01:02 AM
They were saying on the TV for tonights game that the coach from the redclaws called larry the day before the injury to talk about how Lexy is "turning the corner" He's probably not going to be a starter anytime soon unless he gets taken in the expansion draft by the New Jersey ________ or by the Seattle Supersonics :)
Teej...I remember every playeer you named...and I also remember some scouts thinking (and saying) each of those guys was worth the pick...not one scout said that about AA...and I personally have never seen a guy drafted that high with such poor fundamentals...and I've watched clips on Claver...
I hope Lexy is turning a corner...or turning something...I hope he plays in the NBA...but when he was drafted he did not know how to play fundamental BB...period...he was a horrible reach...and from that I mean this...there was more than one (as in several) guys drafted below him that contributed (at the NBA level) the year they were drafted...this guy was clueless about how to play the game...at the High School level...but again I'll say...he did not draft himself...and the major pisser for me...I have no doubt that he'd have been available with the second rounder we used on Weaver...so yes...he was a major reach...
...as far as Crash...the Kings were sorry they exposed him but he had talent playing in front of him...and I saw him at 'Bama...he could play fundamental BB...no one (Teej) on your list could not play fundamental BB...this kid could not...
docend24
02-04-2010, 11:48 AM
He is only playing 26 mins. a game because he can't stay out of foul trouble...and as old as I am it is a stretch for me to rmember anyone draftes as high as this "kid" so unprepared (if ever) to play in the NBA...and frankly real "kids" have come into the NBA younger than AA and have been starters...so quoting his age just does not give him a break...here is what gives him a break...
He did not draft himself...and yes...it was a very poor pick...there were better, closer, NBA-ready players available...he was so raw and lacking in skill he got what...3 minutes a game on a weak French pro team...and I read no scout that even thought this guy should/outta be a first round pick...a serious reach if I've ever seen one...
...and again...the "stuff" he is showing in the NBADL...as a 7 footer...against what size guys...I'll say again I hope I'm wrong but even our FO (and LB) had serious doubts about even extending him...he was a reach...and not a good one...
You are losing it - Sene, Petro, Thabeet, O'Brynat, Sheldon Williams,... I just listed big men drafted way earlier than 20th pick, albeit you coud argue they were better at that momment.
The rest of your post is just garbage - if he would stay in Europe and started to produce one day for us you wouldn't bitching as much maybe not at all. we didn't draft an asset for winning now, so what? Deal with it.
You are losing it - Sene, Petro, Thabeet, O'Brynat, Sheldon Williams,... I just listed big men drafted way earlier than 20th pick, albeit you coud argue they were better at that momment.
The rest of your post is just garbage - if he would stay in Europe and started to produce one day for us you wouldn't bitching as much maybe not at all. we didn't draft an asset for winning now, so what? Deal with it.
...and "at the moment" is exactly the point...and frankly my "bitching" about a shit pick is my prerogative...so you get over it...it was a wasted-reach of a pick...that's my opinion...glad you don't like it...and you can shove yours if you can't "tolerate" anyone else having an opinion...
docend24
02-04-2010, 11:59 AM
I dont know what you saw, could you please give me you definiton of fundamental basketbal?
He wouldn't be available in the second round for sure. Even Ibaka was 24th and had some other takers after Sonics, who could draft Lexy instead if Sonics wouldn't do that - they was drafting raw seven footers with potential happy (Petro, Sene).
I dont know what you saw, could you please give me you definiton of fundamental basketbal?
He wouldn't be available in the second round for sure. Even Ibaka was 24th and had some other takers after Sonics, who could draft Lexy instead if Sonics wouldn't do that - they was drafting raw seven footers with potential happy (Petro, Sene).
How about you "justifying " the pick...even with his "play" now rather than trying to insult me...you think it was a good pick...great...and if you think the "Sonics" were willing to burn themselves again on a reach...I have serious doubts...
BRNC is clearly on the right side of this argument. lexy sucks. it would be one thing if we reached with our own pick, it is completely different that we traded a future 1st for him. if it had worked great, but it didn't. at the time, lb said he would be a top 5 in last years draft. i think lb missed on this one.
as old as I am it is a stretch for me to rmember anyone draftes as high as this "kid" so unprepared (if ever) to play in the NBA...
Huh?!?!
Robert Swift
Luke Jackson
Rafeal Araujo
Juluis Hodge
Gerald Green
Rashard McCants
Yaroslav Korolev
Fran Vazquez
Renaldo Balkman (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/renaldobalkman.html)
Quincy Douby (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/quincydouby.html)
Oleksiy Pecherov (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/oleksiypecherov.html)
Shawne Williams (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/shawnewilliams.html)
Cedric Simmons (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/cedricsimmons.html)
Saer Sene (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/saersene.html)
Patrick O'Bryant (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/patrickobryant.html)
Adam Morrison (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/adammorrison.html)
Jason Smith (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/jasonsmith.html)
Javaris Crittenton (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/javariscrittenton.html)
Sean Williams (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/seanwilliams.html)
Julian Wright (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/julianwright.html)
Sean May
Acie Law (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/acielaw.html)
JaVale McGee (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/javalemcgee.html)
Joe Alexander (http://www.nbadraft.net/admincp/profiles/joealexander.html)
All guys were drafted higher than Lexy and are either out of the league or on their way out of the league.
And that is just the last couple of years and a snap shot.
slam...my point was not if there have been worse picks, (jury is still out on Lexy), my point was...I could not remember a guy being drafted that high(#20) with less BB fundamentals...
I've seen (IMO) some real reaches...Robert Swift and Petro both come to mind...but they had reasonable BB fundamentals...and there were scouts/analyst (at the time) that thought they should be first-round picks (I did not think so...even at the time)...
I have no idea if Lexy will ever contribute at the NBA level...my gripe with Lexy was he lacked some basic, fundamental, big-man BB skills when he was drafted...yes he was/is a project that may/may/not pan out...but we needed bench depth (not a maybe reach) when he was picked...and at #20 (in his draft) there were players that were NBA ready (to contribute) that we did not pick...
I'm not willing to say this guy (Lexy) will never contribute to an NBA team...I have doubts about it being with the Bobcats...and have serious doubts that it will happen in the next 2-3 years...what Lexy is doing at the NBADL level is a yawner for me...I've only watched one Red Claws game but he did nothing in the game that changed my opinion...the guy is a long ways off from contributing at the NBA level...
The lack of fundamentals (what I've seen when I've watched him play:can't set a non-moving screen, does not appear to know what to do/where to go off pick-and-roll, constantly losing his defensive assignment, poor/if any defensive rotation,,,etc...etc.)...after 15-30 seconds on the court (and again it is when I've seen him play) he looks totally lost...
With the other players that were available (even draft and trade for what we needed at the time...bench depth) he was a reach...and IMO a long one since I can't see when he will (if ever) contribute at the NBA level...
as far as your list...I agree...over the years every team in the league has made some real piss-poor picks...but for me this was just reaffirmed my long-standing belief that LB should never run a draft...it was a major development-type reach when we needed immediate bench help...I like him as a coach just fine...but he should never control a draft or trades...he lets his "emotions" get the better of him...
Slam...let me put it this way (without being so damned wordy)...
I think it highly unusual (rare) to draft a guy in the top 20,of any draft, that appears to have so little understanding (basics) of the game they're being drafted to play...and IMO Lexy did not appear to have a basic understanding...I base that on what I saw on the court...it does not bother me if someone disagrees with what I've seen...it bothers me when someone can't point that they see something different than what I see...is he athletic for his size...yes...can he run the court...yes...can he shoot..sometimes...but those are not basic/fundamental BB skills needed to succeed at the NBA level...
Slam...let me put it this way (without being so damned wordy)...
I think it highly unusual (rare) to draft a guy in the top 20,of any draft, that appears to have so little understanding (basics) of the game they're being drafted to play...and IMO Lexy did not appear to have a basic understanding...I base that on what I saw on the court...it does not bother me if someone disagrees with what I've seen...it bothers me when someone can't point that they see something different than what I see...is he athletic for his size...yes...can he run the court...yes...can he shoot..sometimes...but those are not basic/fundamental BB skills needed to succeed at the NBA level...
Not that we will ever know for sure, but I feel pretty strongly that the reason we got back into the 1st round was because LB had a hard on for Roy Hibbert (which I understand, I was very high on him too) and was also blown away by Lexy in the workout. Remember we had Hibbert, Lexy, DeAndre and I think it was McGee all in together for a workout? LB raved about Lexy. I think he had goo-gar eyes for him from that point on so he knew that if Doc was gone, Lexy would be there for plan B.
I'm not sure what you mean by "no basic/fundamental BB skills". I've seen him post up, use that nice lean and spin, and up and under and some feathery hook shots.
I don't think he's the next Dream, but I can't see how anyone could say he has no basic/fundamental BB skills. Watch a guy like Sene. That's a dude with no basic/fundamental BB skills.
Lexy is SO damn young. People need to temper their expecations and be patient.
If we left him overseas to develop and he wasn't under our noses in the D he would be out of sight out of mind. I really think we are doing the right thing with him. I totally see him as our potential Andray Blatche.
A kid we nurture for a few years and then when his rookie deal is up, we sign him long term to a flat 4 year 15 mil deal with the last year being a team option. Right about then is when he blossoms, we unleash him and we have a serviceable big with a unique skill set and size on a super cheap deal.
What's to lose?
slam...solid points on Roy and I agree...with Lexy I'm not talking about individual moves...I think that is why he was able to "sell" himself in work-outs...I'm talking team fundamentals...screens, picks, rotations...I'm not sure (other than his limited playing time with the "French Pro" team) that he has ever had any solid team fundamentals taught him...would explain (to me ) why he looks so lost...
But, given LB wanted him to stay with the Bobcats (versus NBADL) I think practices showed his limited understanding of team fundamentals..that is a guess on my part...when he was not getting it (which I saw in games) LB decided he had to go NBADL...and with the reluctance that LB (and the FO) had in extending him this year I'd have to think they are concerned that he may "never get it"...but again...that is all "guess" on my part...
I have never seen the guy playing anything resembling "fundamental" team BB when he is on the court...I've seen a guy lost and confused about what he is supposed to be doing...
He just does not seem to "grasp" (lack of a better) fundamental BB concepts...the individual (I guess) he knows...but we're not playing one-on-one...:facepalm:
Slam, the only place you're wrong is the numbers. We'd sign him to a minimum deal...
And BRNC, all the issues you talk about are legion among big men. Hell, Gana is just like that and he went in the TOP 10! And Tyson's almost as bad, he was NUMBER TWO!
Look, I'm not saying Lexy is amazing, but please, don't pretend you're getting All Star centers in the late 1st/2nd rounds. Boozer is a rare exception, and he's just a PF.
teej...I've never "pretended" that with big men...to some extent they (I'm agreeing with you) all need some work...with Lexy at a #20...all I'm saying is this...for his lacking of "fundamentals" he is the biggest reach I've seen that high...the guy is so "raw" with fundamentals it is not even funny...and yes...TC had issues when he came into the league...but he had most of the fundamentals down (and I watched him early)...Lexy is just "raw" period...
...and I'm not going to excuse that because he is French...both T. Parker and B. Diaw came into the league with a solid fundamental understanding of team BB...Lexy does not seem to have/had that...and for me it is a major problem...
I don't know if he can get "it" or not...but it is not his age (Parker was young also) or where he came from...it is his lack of understanding...and at this point I would question (as our FO obviously did) if he ever gets it...
I guess with a "team" (GSW come to mind) where the team aspect is not important he might be able to contribute his individual skill set...but any "team" (IMO) he is going to have problems...but I've heard the same knock on Bass out of the Magic and his problems with defensive assignments...
It is my observation...and I'm certainly not the last word (far from it) on players...but coupled (with my observation) with the FO (and LB) extending the guy it really makes me wonder if he's going to get it...
TC had issues when he came into the league...but he had most of the fundamentals down (and I watched him early)...Lexy is just "raw" period...
:confused::confused::confused:
TC still can't set a damn screen.
And you said nothing about Gana...
EDIT: I guarantee you, if Lexy played and started in GSW, he'd have hit 30 in a game by now.
docend24
02-04-2010, 04:59 PM
I'm not sure what you mean by "no basic/fundamental BB skills". I've seen him post up, use that nice lean and spin, and up and under and some feathery hook shots.
I don't think he's the next Dream, but I can't see how anyone could say he has no basic/fundamental BB skills. Watch a guy like Sene. That's a dude with no basic/fundamental BB skills.
This was my point about what have you seen of him. Because I have seen a lto of fundamental things from footage prior the draft. He may not always use what he's learned in 5on5 game effectively, partially because in Charlotte he was always kind of a last option on offesne. I could agreee he may not have typical NBA big men game moves, but saying he was raw without fundamentals is a reach.
I think a lot of his haters hate him just because we didn't go with the contribut right now type of pick but with a potential one instead. I understand you can be mad about it. But dont blame on Lexy that he wasnt a contibutiobn pick, but a project one, that is not his fault. And as project he is a good type of players to gamble imho. Some people dont like him cause he is an Euro, lacks strenght and used to be as unorthodox big man as you can get. We could stash him in Europe but the situaton (probably) wasn't really favorable to this solution. That gave us an opportunity to get NBA game into him instead of letting him develop european way. Probably only one who is losing by this approach is Bob Johnson who pays the bills.
I admit I like to rooting for him, as for some of us, he is a special project and as he is a bit goofy looking with his stick lecks and all, easy to root for. Plus the physical potential combining with hsi outside game is intriguing and was worth the risk. Hollins is a different type of players but seven footer athletic freak too and he is starting for Wolves now... For me he is a more interesting type of project than for example JerMareo Davidson was, both more frustrating and more fun.
docend24
02-04-2010, 05:03 PM
slam...solid points on Roy and I agree...with Lexy I'm not talking about individual moves...I think that is why he was able to "sell" himself in work-outs...I'm talking team fundamentals...screens, picks, rotations...I'm not sure (other than his limited playing time with the "French Pro" team) that he has ever had any solid team fundamentals taught him...would explain (to me ) why he looks so lost...
But, given LB wanted him to stay with the Bobcats (versus NBADL) I think practices showed his limited understanding of team fundamentals..that is a guess on my part...when he was not getting it (which I saw in games) LB decided he had to go NBADL...and with the reluctance that LB (and the FO) had in extending him this year I'd have to think they are concerned that he may "never get it"...but again...that is all "guess" on my part...
I have never seen the guy playing anything resembling "fundamental" team BB when he is on the court...I've seen a guy lost and confused about what he is supposed to be doing...
He just does not seem to "grasp" (lack of a better) fundamental BB concepts...the individual (I guess) he knows...but we're not playing one-on-one...:facepalm:
Part of it may be a transition from european ball to noth american one. Actually another reason to have him in Charlotte, or in Maine, rather than in France.
With that I agree, you could just answer me this way when I asjed what fundamentals do you mean. ;)
well...I don't hate the guy and wanted him to do well because we drafted him...and I've yet to see him use any...and I mean any...team fundamentals after he has been on the court more than 30 seconds...
I can't "speak" to your claim of him actually knowing them...so if he knows them and does not use them...at all...I have any more problems with him than I did...
None of the film I watched (from the French Pro league) after we drafted him gave any indication he "gets" fundamental-team BB...it was just the opposite...and I think that is why he got very limited playing time...
docend24
02-04-2010, 05:08 PM
Yeah, at times I think that he can actually turn out into a hopeles case after all, but I like to believe. I used to have a fun every time Lexy launched a long jumpshot for the first time in a game and opponents and announcers was confused cause seven footers are not supposed to do that :biggrin:
docend...you can ask me any question you want...and I'll try to answer it...but don't ever...and I mean ever start off by trying to insult...I don't like it and I never will...
...and I've answered your question (to the best of my ability) as best I can...but you have not answered mine...
What justifies this guy as a #20 pick?
docend24
02-04-2010, 05:17 PM
well...I don't hate the guy and wanted him to do well because we drafted him...and I've yet to see him use any...and I mean any...team fundamentals after he has been on the court more than 30 seconds...
I can't "speak" to your claim of him actually knowing them...so if he knows them and does not use them...at all...I have any more problems with him than I did...
None of the film I watched (from the French Pro league) after we drafted him gave any indication he "gets" fundamental-team BB...it was just the opposite...and I think that is why he got very limited playing time...
He was in their national U16 and other teams, he should get some basics of team play. (dailymotion: Novi Sad generation - documentary about that squad, playing against Beasley and co. etc.)
His team probably try to hide him from NBA, and that was oen of the reasons why lexy wanted to go USA rather to stay in Europe.
Watch his workout footage - it is solo or 2 on 2, but shows a lot. (actaully dailymotion: Destination NBA - documentary where there is more such a footage, including one when he is frustrated with his defense during one scrimmage, I think Lexy might not be over confident by nature quite the opposite, which could only add to looking like being lost on court playing off the ball).
docend24
02-04-2010, 05:17 PM
What justifies this guy as a #20 pick?
A gamble :biggrin:
SWedd523
02-04-2010, 05:40 PM
Alexis Ajinca does not deserve 4 pages of discussion
Alexis Ajinca does not deserve 4 pages of discussion
:facepalm:
You only added to it...
SWedd523
02-04-2010, 05:42 PM
:facepalm:
You only added to it...
Was meant to be a last-post-sort-of-thing
hyphen-hyphen-hyphen:paddle:
docend24
02-04-2010, 06:30 PM
Are you aware of taht this is a public forum and anyone (including...) can read this? :g:
We should make it to the page 6! Come on!
We should make it to the page 6! Come on!
Coming!
And its okay, if Lexy does read, he knows you, thebeagle, and some others love him.
jazzer89
02-04-2010, 06:51 PM
i think no young player will succeed under larry brown, so until he is gone dont look for henderson/dj/brown/ajinca to ever come into their own. These young guys need minutes and since brown doesnt really give the young guys 20+ minutes they will never succeed and will all look like busts
brown doesnt really give the young guys 20+ minutes
:facepalm:
Walt, if you're still around, we have a dead horse for you to beat.
spectre
02-04-2010, 07:13 PM
Alexis Ajinca does not deserve 4 pages of discussion
:facepalm:
You only added to it...
:hysterical:
I don't think there's one person on this forum that wants Ajinca to be a bust or to fail. At the time we traded for that pick we desperately needed help, and to give up a future asset like our 1st which has always been lottery and it not to help then or in the near future was a big blow. We couldn't afford a project, yet we ended up with a big one who's projecting to be years before he can even contribute.
Add to that his supposed lack of work ethic when LB was trying to invest in him this summer it's hard to get that excited that he'll come around anytime soon. Of course there's doubts about the guy.
Hopefully he'll work out. Be nice if ONE prospect panned out.
docend24
02-05-2010, 04:11 AM
i think no young player will succeed under larry brown, so until he is gone dont look for henderson/dj/brown/ajinca to ever come into their own. These young guys need minutes and since brown doesnt really give the young guys 20+ minutes they will never succeed and will all look like busts
That is why i think that brand ne Maine Red Claws team is a blessing for us. I even suspect them they didnt take any big man* on purpose and counting with Lexy playing for them.
* thery have some Williams and forward bangers, but no other starter quality center
:facepalm:
You only added to it...
this is like the writing under the creative and intellectually stimulating comments on the bathroom stall:
for a good time call _______
who brings a pen in the bathroom?
docend24
02-05-2010, 08:41 AM
Fuck. One more post needed for the sixth page.
JamieMcNeill
02-05-2010, 08:47 AM
I look at draft picks the same way as presidents. These things take time. I give you 3-4 years before I call you a bust. So Ajinca, Obama, step it up.
I look at draft picks the same way as presidents. These things take time. I give you 3-4 years before I call you a bust. So Ajinca, Obama, step it up.
Oh, God. Not politics again :biggrin:
But at least one of them can talk without a teleprompter :facepalm:
docend24
02-05-2010, 03:24 PM
I look at draft picks the same way as presidents. These things take time. I give you 3-4 years before I call you a bust. So Ajinca, Obama, step it up.
Obama is already a bust. His word has no value, he is ready to break any previous agreement. And good luck with the economy...
Obama is already a bust. His word has no value, he is ready to break any previous agreement. And good luck with the economy...
I thought all you foreign people loved him?
docend24
02-05-2010, 04:14 PM
I thought all you foreign people loved him?
He is basically giving a big part of Europe back to Russia. He is second Neville Chamberlain. But we would be off topic here.
spectre
02-05-2010, 06:23 PM
he is basically giving a big part of europe back to russia. He is second neville chamberlain. But we would be off topic here.
:biggrin:
+1
WarioVsMooChicken
02-05-2010, 07:41 PM
uhhhhhhhh... I hate when people talk politics, I'll just leave it at that.
docend24
02-06-2010, 03:46 PM
Something on topic - http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2010/02/ajinca-surgery-went-well.html
and how the whole injury happened - http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2010/02/ajinca-hurt-his-thumb-on-putback.html
Keetch
02-06-2010, 05:01 PM
"Thread: Fuck"
Every forum needs one of these, regardless of its purpose. I'm starting one on llamabreeders.com at this moment.
docend24
02-06-2010, 06:41 PM
"Thread: Fuck"
Every forum needs one of these, regardless of its purpose. I'm starting one on llamabreeders.com at this moment.
Do you own that URL?
Keetch
02-06-2010, 10:26 PM
LOL no, but there is a very nice farm with breeders near my home. Good friends.
ziggy
02-07-2010, 12:33 PM
I got an email from a guy who told me about his 8 year old son who likes to read about the Bobcats & BCP. He had some valid points about the thread title, so I renamed it.
Carry on debating Lexi :biggrin:
dnbman
02-07-2010, 12:37 PM
I got an email from a guy who told me about his 8 year old son who likes to read about the Bobcats & BCP. He had some valid points about the thread title, so I renamed it.
Carry on debating Lexi :biggrin:
Perhaps your nature photographs might be better elsewhere also?
Good ideas. We need to encourage the youngsters to come aboard.
We do (need to encourage anyone to join the forum) and I try to make an active choice not to use profanity...I admit it is difficult...but I think we all need to try to limit it...and watch what we say if we do...
Toocool
02-08-2010, 12:38 AM
Heard that Bobcats gonna work a lot on Lexy's stilt legs.
He had some valid points about the thread title, so I renamed it.
No disrespect to the dad or son, but:
One of the many reasons I wish Europe had the USA's entertainment options, so I could move there.
Though after going through much of High School in a very religious town, I am hopeful for the next generation.
Marvel
02-08-2010, 02:06 AM
Ignorance is a bitch.....come on Ajinca is a bust well not really because to me he wasn't really anybody to begin with coming from a French team averaging 1 point,1 rebound and 5 mins per game.LB done fucked up on this one,so i heard LB was "blown away" after watching Ajinca in his workout so i go check it out and i don't see wtf LB is talking about seriously Ajinca sucked so bad in that workout i was ready to throw up becuase i knew LB had a hard on for him and that he was possibly going to become a Bobcat.
Shrimpy_Jackson
02-08-2010, 02:57 AM
Heal up quickly AA! But as for the cursing, I can understand none of it actual thread titles, but as for inside the thread it'd be a shame to be censored!
docend24
02-08-2010, 04:02 AM
Ignorance is a bitch.....come on Ajinca is a bust well not really because to me he wasn't really anybody to begin with coming from a French team averaging 1 point,1 rebound and 5 mins per game.LB done fucked up on this one,so i heard LB was "blown away" after watching Ajinca in his workout so i go check it out and i don't see wtf LB is talking about seriously Ajinca sucked so bad in that workout i was ready to throw up becuase i knew LB had a hard on for him and that he was possibly going to become a Bobcat.
:biggrin: Couldn't resist :biggrin:
docend24
02-08-2010, 04:10 AM
No disrespect to the dad or son, but:
One of the many reasons I wish Europe had the USA's entertainment options, so I could move there.
Though after going through much of High School in a very religious town, I am hopeful for the next generation.
No kidding, before I noticed the renamed thread, I was considering to create a new "Where the f word* is a f word* thread?! Censorship?" thread.
Is that politically correct this way, ziggy? They say the f word this way on nationalwide media all the time. ;)
*normal way in this case
GoBobs
02-08-2010, 10:25 AM
Lexy doesn't always show a good bb IQ when he plays but his skils are rocks solid. His biggest weakness is his lack of endurance and energy on the court at times. Lexy has more post moves then all the other centers on our roster combined which isn't saying much, but give him some time he could still be great or not.
I got an email from a guy who told me about his 8 year old son who likes to read about the Bobcats & BCP. He had some valid points about the thread title, so I renamed it.
Carry on debating Lexi :biggrin:
i agree, the title of the thread was pretty bad. but, only because it was a terrible title. if you want to have that title (which i think only appeals to the lowest common denominator) at least save for a good reason. a crap draft pick getting hurt in the d-league really only deserves a "shoot" or "well shucks". now if crash was traded, or the lady cats bus crashed and all were dead and not being replaced, or we brought back primo in a starting role, or they announced they were going to turn up the pa guy's mic...then a title of F#$k is in order.
as for the 8 year old, i am glad he is a fan and we need all the young fans we can get, but seriously what can he offer to this board. i feel 12-14 is about the youngest that i could reasonably expect good insight into the cats'. at that age, we don't have to worry about 4 letter words as much.
Dcarnys
02-08-2010, 11:14 PM
i agree, the title of the thread was pretty bad. but, only because it was a terrible title. if you want to have that title (which i think only appeals to the lowest common denominator) at least save for a good reason. a crap draft pick getting hurt in the d-league really only deserves a "shoot" or "well shucks". now if crash was traded, or the lady cats bus crashed and all were dead and not being replaced, or we brought back primo in a starting role, or they announced they were going to turn up the pa guy's mic...then a title of F#$k is in order.
:hysterical:
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