View Full Version : Tyson Chandler for the remainder of the season. Will he contribute?
ziggy
02-23-2010, 11:16 AM
What contribution do you think we'll see out of Tyson Chandler for the remainder of the year?
I believe that I read somewhere that he was out through the remainder of this road trip. If that is the case then is it even worth it to bring him back at all? Certainly he can't be in any kind of game shape and once Nazr and Gana are healthy then I don't see him being able to produce any more than those two ore even Theo Ratliff for that matter.
If he finally gets healthy should we really throw a monkey wrench into the last 20 games of the season attempting to work him into the system?
Or should we just accept the fact that the Mek was a pure salary dump and that Tyson was just a throw in to make that salary dump work. If that's the case then maybe we should stop talking about him, pretend he isn't even on the roster and just move on without him.
As you can tell, I'm frustrated with him :facepalm:
spectre
02-23-2010, 11:25 AM
I have no doubt that we'll try to work him in...we desperately need him. I have a sinking suspicion however that he's going to end up as May V2.
Too bad we couldn't trade him for an expiring/pick before the deadline.
Dcarnys
02-23-2010, 11:40 AM
I hope he gets back soon, we need him.
IMO no...I think he is in "lingering injury" mode...I see no hope there...
polarcat
02-23-2010, 01:08 PM
reminds me of a bad grant hill/tracy mcgrady injury dream. always optimistic but it never seems to come to fruition.
**footnote -- by no means am i associating hill and mcgrady's talent to chandler's mediocre skillset.
ohara831
02-23-2010, 01:09 PM
IMO no...I think he is in "lingering injury" mode...I see no hope there...
But this could turn to our favor. If LB constantly belittles him in public, and we the fans make it horrible on him by constantly demeaning his manhood on Boards like at BCP, then perhaps, by some small miracle, he exercises his ETC and bolts. Think of the cap room that opens up! We just need to make sure he reads what we say about him and he comes to hate being in Charlotte and just wants OUT OUT OUT enough to forgo the millions he will lose as no other team will pay him more than 3-4 mil/yr.!
Hey, I am just trying to put a positive spin on it.
ROFLMAO...I love the spin...I've never seen a NBA guy leave money on the table though...and I really doubt TC will be the first...:biggrin:
Shrimpy_Jackson
02-23-2010, 02:13 PM
Haha dammit where's Dav at? I'm starting to think he might be right. Still early and he hasn't played, but I read what LB said about Nazzy playing with back spasms and it did seem like a veiled swipe at TC "toughness."
All in all I desperately hope he can contribute, but the less I see him on the court the more doubt creeps in my head.
ziggy
02-23-2010, 03:37 PM
other than an occasional alley-oop dunk, what could a healthy Tyson Chandler give us that Theo Ratliff couldn't?
Toocool
02-23-2010, 03:43 PM
Nothing. He's played subpar the first 1/3 of the season. Been injured 2/3rd of the season. And will continue to stay injured for the rest of the season. I'm tired of being optimistic for him. He came back, gave us 2 okay games and went back to being injured. We didn't pay him that much just to sit on the bench 2/3rds of the season, with the last 1/3 giving us absolutely NOTHING (seriously, 7/6?)
Yeah, I think LB bringing in Theo was throwing in the towel with TC. And since you guys want bad press on TC, I'll go write a column on it.
GTFO TC! :D
SWedd523
02-23-2010, 05:19 PM
Tits or GTFO
GoBobs
02-23-2010, 07:46 PM
I can't tell if the injury is really that severe or if he would just rather rehab then be a part of bobcats basketball activities under coach LB. If the injury is real it really reminds me of the grant hill situation and we either need to get the suns training staff or TC needs to land with the suns somehow.
One thing is for sure though. We got raped in the Oak trade. If we wanted to dump his contract why not trade him for expiring contracts. :facepalm:
superb1
02-23-2010, 08:33 PM
But this could turn to our favor. If LB constantly belittles him in public, and we the fans make it horrible on him by constantly demeaning his manhood on Boards like at BCP, then perhaps, by some small miracle, he exercises his ETC and bolts. Think of the cap room that opens up! We just need to make sure he reads what we say about him and he comes to hate being in Charlotte and just wants OUT OUT OUT enough to forgo the millions he will lose as no other team will pay him more than 3-4 mil/yr.!
Hey, I am just trying to put a positive spin on it.
Actually I agree and have thought about this spin. just make him want to leave. bury him on the bench behind diop, hendo and even lexi. LB needs to blast him on where his heart is at.
TattoodCats4life
02-23-2010, 08:59 PM
Isn't there a point where a team can get insurance coverage of a player's salary if they are injured for a specified length of time? I think that'd be our best bet...and if he feels up to playing next year, maybe we can call Tonya Harding and get some advice :paddle: Either way, we eat him this year and next year he is an expiring contract and we'll trade him out for junk contracts and picks or for a good contract and no picks ;) Trading him for expiring gives us room to keep ray and even possibly TT without hitting spilling into the tax level.
GoBobs
02-23-2010, 09:07 PM
no one is going to trade something that expires for him at this point. Why would you want to be saddled with him for one year if you didn't have to be.
With so many players having expiring deals (next season) I'm not sure we could get (even) a garbage contract for TC...I think we're stuck (just keep him to expire) unless the FO gets a heck of a lot better...I had hopes but not so much any more...
Twan's Kin
02-23-2010, 11:50 PM
Keep Tyson. Keep Tyson. Oh yeah, and remember to keep Tyson.
Demon DeaCat
02-24-2010, 08:40 AM
other than an occasional alley-oop dunk, what could a healthy Tyson Chandler give us that Theo Ratliff couldn't?
I second this. I never understood why so many people were so excited about getting TC to begin with. He's never been anything more than just a dunker. The only positive is the cap relief he'll provide after next year. Ratliffe has been a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think he had anything left in the tank, but he's been better than TC and Diop.
amour217
02-24-2010, 09:58 AM
The only thing he'll contribute to is Men's Warehouse's profits with all the suits he'll probably buy to sit his useless butt on the bench
ohara831
02-24-2010, 09:59 AM
I second this. I never understood why so many people were so excited about getting TC to begin with. He's never been anything more than just a dunker. The only positive is the cap relief he'll provide after next year. Ratliffe has been a very pleasant surprise. I didn't think he had anything left in the tank, but he's been better than TC and Diop.
I dont really know if anyone was too thrilled with this trade from the beginning. Some just tried to put the best light on it because there was nothing we could do about it. There was a mandate from someone in the FO about getting rid of Okafor's big contract, so we took back a much less talented player with a contract for less years. And as Bobcat fans, people just try to be at least somwhat optimistic and hopeful. But I guarantee you this, I cannot think of one knowledgable fan on this Board whose immediate reaction was "Great! This will be a big help!". His athleticism and ability to run the floor were the only assets he had over Okafor so people just mentioned how we could use that to our benefit. Of course, none of us were that aware of his obvious lack of overall skills or his feeble physical condition at that time. (Hell, my grandmother is 90 and moves around better than Chandler!) Now we are all aware of his shortcomings. Sadly, all too aware.
spectre
02-24-2010, 10:06 AM
Well said Ohara...exactly right from my POV.
I'll have to owe you a rep point...according to the software I have "to spread more around first". :p
My first thought?
"WTF? We had better be getting their 1st back".
But I guarantee you this, I cannot think of one knowledgable fan on this Board whose immediate reaction was "Great! This will be a big help!". His athleticism and ability to run the floor were the only assets he had over Okafor so people just mentioned how we could use that to our benefit. Of course, none of us were that aware of his obvious lack of overall skills or his feeble physical condition at that time. (Hell, my grandmother is 90 and moves around better than Chandler!) Now we are all aware of his shortcomings. Sadly, all too aware.
I thought he would be better.
He is quicker, more athletic, taller, more aggressive and plays above the rim.
Okafor is way too passive and not nearly aggressive enough.
The big problem I had was that the Thunder had just pulled the pin on that trade for him because of his suspect foot and I thought that should have been a big red flag.
Of course, I also hated the fact that we gave Okafor a contract that I didn't think he was worth putting us in the position to have to trade him for less in the 1st place.
There were some EO50 "haters" that were glad to see him go...and I've always understood their disappointment...after ROY everyone had large expectations that the guy just can't live up to...he (EO50) gave what he gave and is a solid NBA talent...
But I don't recall anyone being "blown away" with TC coming here from the trade...just about everyone saw it for what it was...a contract dump...and as disappointed (about the trade) as I was from a talent stand-point...I had no idea TC would be this useless....with that said...
If the guy is hurt...he is hurt...but honestly...you can't be made of "glass" and play in the NBA...
jdsingar
02-24-2010, 01:33 PM
Coming soon (well, not soon enough)...Tyson Chandler's Expiring Contract!
Marvel
02-24-2010, 11:11 PM
Coming soon (well, not soon enough)...Tyson Chandler's Expiring Contract!
Yes!!! the most valuable and only thing he has to offer for the rest of his miserable career
Along these lines
Chandler in NYC to consult with specialist
Charlotte Bobcats center Tyson Chandler flew to New York Thursday to consult with the foot specialist who operated on him last spring to address ankle and toe injuries.
Chandler has missed the last four games with additional pain in his foot and ankle. He's missed 26 of the last 29 games, after being diagnosed with a stress reaction in that foot in late December.
The Bobcats, in a three-game losing streak, have several injured centers: Nazr Mohammed missed the past two games with back spasms and Gana Diop is out with a knee sprain. Mohammed was up and around in practice Thursday in Memphis, so there's some chance he'd play against the Grizzlies Friday.
The Bobcats have been starting recently-acquired Theo Ratliff in Mohammed's absence.
Scottley Crue
02-25-2010, 07:14 PM
Along these lines
At this point, I say just shut the guy down. Gana will be back in about a week and that'll give us three centers to work with. Let him just get healthy for next year because this one's just been a waste for him.
Ghost Kat
02-28-2010, 02:45 PM
Tyson is a skinner more expensive Sean May. The only benefit or help he brings is leaving at the end of the year.
amour217
03-01-2010, 10:38 AM
Ladies and gentlemen....I know it's been a LONG time....
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/TysonChandlerCrip.jpg
CatNation
03-01-2010, 10:43 AM
Sad thing is we're paying Theo what, 200k? And he's done about as much as Chandler even when he was "healthy." Wouldn't mind having him for depth though. Nazr is much more important at this point
Muttley
03-01-2010, 10:58 AM
Amour, you should change the Advil to Midol or something.
Walt Cronkite
03-01-2010, 12:14 PM
I love "Will he contribute" in the thread title... like he wasn't the worst +/- player on the court when he was "playing" to begin with.
Ladies and gentlemen....I know it's been a LONG time....
http://i11.photobucket.com/albums/a166/amour217/TysonChandlerCrip.jpg
:biggrin:
He needs some really strong stuff.
polarcat
03-01-2010, 09:50 PM
Is there any time table for Chandler's return to the line up? He's not going to blow up the scorers sheet, but we need a 7-foot presence in the paint to do the dirty work. So over seeing Diaw, Thomas and Theo holding down the paint. :paddle:
Walt Cronkite
03-01-2010, 09:58 PM
Is there any time table for Chandler's return to the line up? He's not going to blow up the scorers sheet, but we need a 7-foot presence in the paint to do the dirty work. So over seeing Diaw, Thomas and Theo holding down the paint. :paddle:
Not looking likely:
Naz wasn't at practice Sunday or shootaround Monday. Chandler made it clear Sunday that his return is not around the corner.
It really does make you "wonder" if this guy wants to play on our team...just saying...:g:
spectre
03-11-2010, 08:29 AM
TC asks "How do you like me now?" :p
ziggy
03-11-2010, 08:33 AM
TC asks "How do you like me now?" :p
Katy and I stand corrected! :biggrin:
JamieMcNeill
03-11-2010, 08:34 AM
TC asks "How do you like me now?" :p
:yeahthat:
And he follows it with a big middle finger to all of us....
Toocool
03-11-2010, 08:45 AM
With the diaper and cowboy boots on. Real intimidating.
JamieMcNeill
03-11-2010, 08:55 AM
With the diaper and cowboy boots on. Real intimidating.
Diaper or not, a seven foot monster of a man will remain intimidating under most circumstances.
And try giving him a little credit.
CarolinaBlue704
03-11-2010, 03:12 PM
Tyson has been playing really well since he came back.The best part is,he seems to be really enjoying himself lately and having fun.
And I believe that enthusiasm will lead to him playing well the rest of the season,barring injury.
ALong13
03-11-2010, 08:10 PM
I love him coming off the bench, but I feel he may get to start soon. I just feel his energy and scoring is better when he comes off the bench. He seems to have more chemistry with Augustin and Thomas than the starting line-up
polarcat
03-11-2010, 09:06 PM
I'm starting to get nervous about Nazzy's return. I hope he comes back soon....it's been awhile since I've heard an update. Ideally with Mohammed starting, Chandler would give that 2nd unit (along with t2 and augustin) an energy punch and spell Naz.
Toocool
03-11-2010, 10:22 PM
Diaper or not, a seven foot monster of a man will remain intimidating under most circumstances.
And try giving him a little credit.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. I've defended him most of this season until a certain point where I gave up (because of his crap-ass production). I do give him credit for what he does, and I have throughout this season. Please think before you post.
I don't try to give people credit, I give it when they deserve it.
You clearly have no idea what you're talking about. Please think before you post.
Jamie generally thinks before he posts and has well thought out ideas consistent with others' opinions.
Don't take it personally, he didn't intend it to be taken as such.
Toocool
03-12-2010, 01:23 AM
Jamie generally thinks before he posts and has well thought out ideas consistent with others' opinions.
Don't take it personally, he didn't intend it to be taken as such.
I understand where you're coming from. And I apologise as I did write a bit harshly (what you get for waking up at 9 a.m to go uni and check forums before rushing off).
Perhaps it was misinterpretation, hard to tell in the internet. I suppose its how he worded it and so on, w.e. I blame it on language barriers ^^
Make it more clear so I don't jump to conclusions next time. I earned that trait from my mum, a fierce and fiery woman.
JamieMcNeill
03-12-2010, 08:36 AM
I understand where you're coming from. And I apologise as I did write a bit harshly (what you get for waking up at 9 a.m to go uni and check forums before rushing off).
Perhaps it was misinterpretation, hard to tell in the internet. I suppose its how he worded it and so on, w.e. I blame it on language barriers ^^
Make it more clear so I don't jump to conclusions next time. I earned that trait from my mum, a fierce and fiery woman.
Yea no harm meant. And what Teej said is also true. I dont post just to post for the most part. Thats why my posting numbers are so low despite being around for awhile. Unless I can contribute a new idea or opinion or make a witty comment (which is this case, even if it was a little on the smart ass side) I tend to just read. Cant stand it when an entire thread is just a bunch of people saying the same thing over and over again. I was simply trying to point out that Tyson, a seven foot monster of a man, would still scare most of us, even in a diaper. I then just added on the little bit about giving him credit. Had little to do with your past posts or mindsets just another way for me to throw in a bit of personal opinion with some humor.
cltblkhscoach
03-12-2010, 10:06 AM
Don't worry about your posting numbers man. I've been here for years, and it's rare when I post, mainly because of work, but I read a ton. I think Tyson will come off the bench regardless from now on though, because I don't think a lot of people have noticed, but ageless Theo Ratliff has been a huge pickup, and does well starting and playing about 20 minutes a game.
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