What RGM Posters are saying about BCP

[spectre]

http://www.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=53&t=870335&start=1230#wrap



Unrelated: past 24 hour visit to BCP has renewed my appreciation for my RGM mods. I love you guys!


1. Historically team Cronkite is alone on PER island in BCP universe
2. Primary rival is a mod
3. Old thread bumped (imo b/c mod in question thought I wouldn't see it since I haven't been posting there)
4. By chance saw thread
5. Cronkite brings da ruckus


we have a good balance of pro and con PER folks here on the board, which leads to great 10 page discussions about said topic.


Agreed, on BCP it's dismissed en masse b/c of "watch teh gamez nerd!!" logic. I don't think it's the discussion-ender stat, but no one that understands it thinks that. Like anything, it will not paint the entire picture, but the things that it reveals are worth discussing.


I started to register for an account over at BCP after reading that thread, but what's the point....



I started to register for an account over at BCP after reading that thread, but what's the point....
It used to be an awesome place, it really did. The something happened a year and a half or so ago and the place went seriously down hill.
It's a pity because of what it used to be. There are still some great posters over there though. It's just the knobs far out weigh the quality guys these days.


It's always had too many homers for my taste and overall the guys are just too touchy when dealing with any other teams fans who happen to drop in. Plus as Walt and Slam implied there are some personalities that I just don't want to deal with including some mods. Ziggy is great though and I appreciate the work he does keeping the site. At least he doesn't ask for money from us all the time like the old site a few of us used to frequent did.


I thought about registering an account, but outside of **** on Chandler and the trade, I knew I didn't want to provide anything else, so the whole act would have been counterproductive.
About PER, I haven't really seen anyone give a legit reason of why it's a not-so-good stat. But, um, what thread are we exactly talking about? I don't see anything that jumps out.



About PER, I haven't really seen anyone give a legit reason of why it's a not-so-good stat. But, um, what thread are we exactly talking about? I don't see anything that jumps out.
Becauz it's sux yo!
/thread



I thought about registering an account, but outside of **** on Chandler and the trade, I knew I didn't want to provide anything else, so the whole act would have been counterproductive.
About PER, I haven't really seen anyone give a legit reason of why it's a not-so-good stat. But, um, what thread are we exactly talking about? I don't see anything that jumps out.
I'll just leave these here:
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9677 is the original one that was weakly bumped
http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?t=9693 is another good read. I believe it was the thread where "ANYONE CAN THROW A LOB" was first used as to why Chandler's offensive contribution wouldn't be much less significant or equal to Okafor's.


As for BCP, I'm going to sound a bit like a jerk, but I'm gonna say it. The posters their just don't seem to know as much about basketball as the ones here. A million years ago I used to check that forum and this one regularly, but it was really rare that anyone over there said something interesting. The other thing is that it is rare to see a non-Bobcat fan there. I love after a trade when we have information exchanges with other groups of fans. I love hearing about Tyrus Thomas from Bulls fans who have watched him play from the beginning. You don't get that kind of thing at BCP.

[ziggy]

Interesting comments from some of the RealGM crowd.

One thing that I would like to say is that BobcatsPlanet has always been a place for all types of fans. If you want to discuss PER or do a statistical analysis of each and every Bobcats player from Tamar Slay to Stephen Jackson, then you are welcome to do that here.

If you want to just have a laugh and discuss the fact that Boris Diaw has developed quite a set of "child bearing hips":rolleyes:, then by all means we can laugh together about that too.

Or if you want to talk about anything in between, we are comfortable with that also. Here at this site we have suffered through Jeff McInnis, Sam Vincent, Kareem Rush and a host of other hard times TOGETHER.

As a result of all that we've been through here on this site over the years, I think of BCP not as just a message board, but me and 1,028 of my closest friends. If it isn't their cup of tea, then that's fine, but I really enjoy what we have going on here.

--Ziggy

[SWedd523]

I really don't want to get into a RGM versus BCP argument, but I wasn't really impressed with what RGM had to offer. Sure, there are a ton of knowledgable guys over there and it's nice to see the game dissected every once in awhile; hell I don't even have the slightest problem with PER. But they do a few things that I don't really enjoy.

1) They oftentimes overanalyze the game and forget to appreciate the fact that it's a "game". It's still two teams running up and down the court with a bouncy ball, trying to put it into a ten foot tall hoop. Sure, statistical trends may appear, but I'd much rather enjoy the game and use stats as supplementary information. Not the other way around.

2) The egos. I'll agree with Slam in that there are a few more knobs around here now than I'd like, but there are just as many in RGM so I guess it depends on the type of personalities you prefer. For example, these boards are usually calm until "certain people" decide to hop over and act like crotch phesants just for the sake of the argument and then escalate things when they find some opposition. Not only that, but they'll hop back over to RGM and act like they "laid da rukus" in attempt to look cool. Nothing beats an Internet tough guy.

BCP is a place that welcomes just about any type of fan. (we even have a Random Hawks Fan that pops in every once in awhile) This place has always been great because people of different views are able to discuss them without getting bruised egos and ruffled feathers. Hopefully that won't go anywhere, but I fear that it may because of some genuine ass hats.

[dnbman]

I really don't want to get into a RGM versus BCP argument, but I wasn't really impressed with what RGM had to offer. Sure, there are a ton of knowledgable guys over there and it's nice to see the game dissected every once in awhile; hell I don't even have the slightest problem with PER. But they do a few things that I don't really enjoy.

1) They oftentimes overanalyze the game and forget to appreciate the fact that it's a "game". It's still two teams running up and down the court with a bouncy ball, trying to put it into a ten foot tall hoop. Sure, statistical trends may appear, but I'd much rather enjoy the game and use stats as supplementary information. Not the other way around.

2) The egos. I'll agree with Slam in that there are a few more knobs around here now than I'd like, but there are just as many in RGM so I guess it depends on the type of personalities you prefer. For example, these boards are usually calm until "certain people" decide to hop over and act like crotch phesants just for the sake of the argument and then escalate things when they find some opposition. Not only that, but they'll hop back over to RGM and act like they "laid da rukus" in attempt to look cool. Nothing beats an Internet tough guy.

BCP is a place that welcomes just about any type of fan. (we even have a Random Hawks Fan that pops in every once in awhile) This place has always been great because people of different views are able to discuss them without getting bruised egos and ruffled feathers. Hopefully that won't go anywhere, but I fear that it may because of some genuine ass hats.

Yes. All are invited. Just don't make it personal. We'd all be good if everyone followed that.

[Keetch]

I like both sites! I guess I've found BCP to more more entertaining most of the time. The attitudes are casual here for the most part. I've been posting long enough that I feel comfortable jumping in whenever I think I have something reasonably interesting to say. I put out crap here that I wouldn't feel comfortable with on RGM, as its not really the same kind of place. And that's ok.

Saying that I've very much enjoyed the analysis and discussion over at RGM; including Slam, Spectre and definitely Walt. Can't tell you how many times I've thought "thanks Walt" for putting a straight perspective on wonky agruments. Still...going off on PER and young Teej, right or wrong; was beyond my attention span lol. Sorry Walt :) luv ya man; well sort of.

[Ghost Kat]

Since I have no account @ RGM and only visit this site I guess I'm super bias. But talking about PER and trades that will never happen is boring to me. The personalites don't bother me, your just names on a computer screen. I've been on this site for about two yrs so I don't understand what Big Slam means about the site going down hill. This site has added alot of new things and people. I'm not sure who takes the time or how to do it but I'd love to see a funniest 2009 BCP highlight reel, . As long as there are some classic Kat quotables included

[teej]

:hysterical:

Hahaha!

Spectre, thanks for the laughs! I'd rep you but I can't. Zig, we really need to get rid of that limit...

I've never posted on RGM, I've read there but they seem like a bunch of insufferable tightwads.

I know a lot of their hate was directed toward me, but this was just :facepalm:


2. Primary rival is a mod

I'm a rival? Really? I don't want to be anyone's rival, and I don't consider myself a rival to anyone. That's just sad if Walt really thinks that. Internet tough guys for sure. :facepalm:


3. Old thread bumped (imo b/c mod in question thought I wouldn't see it since I haven't been posting there)

Actually, Walt, you were the ONLY person I wanted to see it :facepalm:.


5. Cronkite brings da ruckus

Really? I don't feel like I lost any points there, you had to bring your realgm friends in to back you up, and you feel proud about "winning" an internet arguement you didn't really win? :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

Good job Walt, this is what you're doing with your life. :rolleyes:

[amour217]

We have funnier pictures

[teej]

We have funnier pictures

:biggrin:

Actually, I partially joined to comment on Amour's pics.

BCP has a wiki, a photoshopper, a sig guru, tshirts, we used to and soon will again have a radio show, we have the best admin, and of all the forums I've run, modded, or been a member of, the members here are by far the most friendly and easygoing.

[SWedd523]

:biggrin:

Actually, I partially joined to comment on Amour's pics.

BCP has a wiki, a photoshopper, a sig guru, tshirts, we used to and soon will again have a radio show, we have the best admin, and of all the forums I've run, modded, or been a member of, the members here are by far the most friendly and easygoing.

speaking of... hit me up on facebook or something dude

[Toocool]

What's RGM? O.o
No seriously. From what I gather it's some board of some type?

[teej]

What's RGM? O.o
No seriously. From what I gather it's some board of some type?

realgm is a sports website, and they have boards for the individual teams.

[Muttley]

RGM and BCP both offer good things.

Some things I like about BCP:
I love the Bobcats and I like talking to other fans who are sharing the up-and-down experience of the NBA season.
Everyone's welcome here. Sure, I appreciate the posts of some folks a lot more than I appreciate those of others, but I think that's bound to happen when you have so many potential posters.
I will readily admit that I am one of those on here who do not know as much about basketball as most of the people do on RGM. I come here to learn from the opinions of those kind folks who do know a lot about the sport. I'm able to do that here because, for the most part, no one takes themselves too seriously. After all, we're on an internet message board. No disrespect meant at all, it's great, and people here usually don't try to make it more than it is.
RGM offers a lot of insight and knowledge too, which I read and enjoy, but I feel a bit intimidated by it and so do not post there.

In any case, I don't think there should be a RGM vs. BCP mentality, because they offer very different things. Why fight?

[BRNC]

I appreciate what (the RealGM) they have to say...understand about the "knobs"...but really every board has them so I really don't get that...I read "RealGM" just about every day and have never had a desire to join...and I've never viewed them as a "rival" board...as (I think SWedd) stated they tend more to stats which is fine with me...I actually like "Paydro70" there...and good, bad, indifferent topics go on there just like here...but as Ziggy said best...this (BCP) feels more like friends...none of us always agrees but you pretty much know the other person wants the best for the team...

Homers...we have them here...they have some there...

Other teams fans...have been welcome here until they become a "troll"...just like RealGM...

I just see it as a matter of "taste" and "comfort level"....

[bing!]

What's a knob?

[BETCATS]

This is the internet, dont take it seriously! I never even heard of realgm before, but I am a ultra-minor contributor/regular commentor on SLAMonline, poster on the OKC Thunder fan forum, and member of a international blog. This site does one thing none of them can do; offer me a sense of community with fellow bobcat fans.

I have been a fan of the team ever since its conception, and for a long time i felt like i was the only Bobcat fan on the internet. Then one day i wised up and googled "Bobcat Fan Forum" and ended up here. While i can say i am not the most popular commentor on here by a longshot, i do enjoy occasionaly logging on and talking to fellow bobcat fans; people who like the same thing i do.

[BETCATS]

:biggrin:

Actually, I partially joined to comment on Amour's pics.

BCP has a wiki, a photoshopper, a sig guru, tshirts, we used to and soon will again have a radio show, we have the best admin, and of all the forums I've run, modded, or been a member of, the members here are by far the most friendly and easygoing.
A litttle bit of an ego flaunt their, no?:hysterical:

[BRNC]

What's a knob?

...bing...as in the saying..."dumb as a doorknob"...

[SWedd523]

I think knob is more akin to jackass, crotch pheasant, douche, etc.

[TheBeagle]

I may've been to the RGM site way back when, when somebody pasted a thread or some such. It may've changed, but it seemed too generic, plus I have ADHD, and as such my attention span doesn't allow me to keep up interest long enough to be a member of two separate sites discussing the same team. I love my Bobcats (ST holder, blood, sweat, tears, and all that) but damn, there's only so much time I care to/can spend musing on the guys. Plus, I take the losses very hard, and my coping mechanism is to put the Bobcats completely out of my mind, which is why I post as infrequently as I do during tough times, and more often during good times, thererfore another reason why I'd only want to belong to one fansite.

Since I have little familiarity with the other site, I'm just basing my opinion on what other's have said, and it seems like the is better suited to my tastes. Flat-out, I hate stats unless they are found in the boxscores or the back of a basketball card...I'm a left-brained folk, not right brained....get that science and math outta here!!! I jest, but really, the formulaes, postulates, hypotheses, etc., that some guys put together just don't interest me, which is why I've never commented on any thread that discusses the stuff. By no means, do I think these folk are nerds; it's just we have different interests and perspectives about the sport and that's not a bad thing.

Finally, this was the first Cats fansite I joined, and I've never felt the need or compulsion to go out seeking another, which means BCP must be doing something right. Don't get me wrong, I could definitely do without the squabbling, and wish that would be done within the confines of either PMs or a separate "Pissing contest" thread in the Off-topic forum and not infiltrate general Bobcats discussion, but it has gotten a little better over the last month or so, but even then, it's not like I can't just skip over that.

Anyway, it's great there are vibrant communities of Bobcats fans and we have our own place(s) to go discuss things, but it's pretty lame to make it an "us vs. them" issue, much like Muttley says. I hate to sound pompous, but it really is infantile and reminds me of third grade.

As far as I'm concerned though, there's an open invitation to anyone, RealGM, FakeGM, SomewhereinbetweenGM, wherever, to come here to discuss anything from STDs to Boris Diaw.....and no, those two need not be mutually exlusive :o

[bing!]

I frequent RGM only for their flash updates and to check up on the pulse of other teams' stuck-up fan strata. BCP is always there to welcome me with all the hoopla and the maddening nonsense of ziggy's 'check this out' threads.

The 'knob' comment was supposed to be tongue-in-cheek... the peeps at RGM are merely projecting their own shortcomings, 'tis blatantly obvious. :biggrin:

I'm gonna go back underground. Stay healthy.

[teej]

A litttle bit of an ego flaunt their, no?:hysterical:

Huh? I was talking about Ziggy.

[BETCATS]

Huh? I was talking about Ziggy.
Oh i thought you were talking about yourself/was joking.

[Toocool]

Oh, so RGM is more forumulaes and crap? Because after getting out of friggin highschool, I never looked back at formulas. The only formula I use nowadays is to test how lazy I am, which is as following.

(x)^5 + 25 x (y) + 23 - 2 = Total lazyness factor
Where (x) = the number of wins Bobcats have had in their entire history
Where (y) is the amount of fast food I eat

Most formulas confuse me nowadays. Perhaps I'll steer away from RGM so my mind doesn't blow.