PG play

[kickazzz2000]

Felton 1-6 4 pts

DJ 4-12 12 pts.


Assists are down, shooting is way down (DJ has been so awful that I've largely ignored/missed feltons shooting the past 5 games or so.

I think poor play at the 1 is just as responsible for these recent losses as the "committee" manning the 5.

Discuss.

[BobcatsAllDay]

I think poor play at the 1 is just as responsible for these recent losses as the "committee" manning the 5.

Combination of both, Center is definitely on some patchwork right now.

[Toocool]

It's not just their fault. Auggie has had a rough year, that's understandable. He's looked good at times, and horrible in others. We know his confidence is down.

Ray has improved and matured alot this year. Although his first years were stunted due to McInnis being in front of him (seriously...McInnis???) we've seen a much more improved Tonberry this year. His stats may be down, but he's shown a much better side of himself.

It's our foundation that's shaky. Besides Tonberry, Crash and Cpt. Jack being consistent, Diaw has been a rollercoaster, more down than up. TC can't even get onto the court, and when he does he brings sub-par production. Our main contributor Nazzy is great. He's been coming in for around 25 mins and putting in good effort on those boards and scoring. Now, PF is more shored up with TT coming in (and I'm starting to love the kid more and more). It's just Center that's struggling, and that's why we're struggling.

In my view, there are 2 positions that are best to build around. Center, and PG. If you have a great C like Bogut, DH12 then you're at a distinct advantage since the Center is the guy who holds the team in place. The Center is your last man stand, he guards the rim and is there to grab the friggin ball off the board.

PG likewise is a great position to build around. If you have D.Will, CP3, Nash you're able to build around a PG.

We have a decent PG. We have a horrible C. Go figure.

[ammofan]

Honestly, Felton isnt that good. He hasn't improved THAT much as you all are saying. He's an avergae point guard skill wise with good leadership skills and an ability to learn and listen. Im really to the point, however, where I think its time to get a new starting pg. He was getting burned by Rondo and Nate last night and he wasn't any better againest Kidd and the Mavs the last game...
If we want to be a top team in the east any time soon we need a point guard who is better than Felton.

Dont agree that we need a great point guard to do well in the Playoffs(or make the playoffs for that matter).....? Lets look at the current Playoff teams right now and their point guards:

EAST:
1. Cavs- Mo Williams
2. Magic- Jameer Nelson
3. ATL- Mike Bibby
4. Celtics- Rondo
5. Raptors- Calderon
6. Bucks- Jennings
7. Bulls- Rose
8. Heat- Alston/Chalmers

WEST:
1. Lakers- Fisher
2. Mavs- Kidd
3. Nuggets- Billups
4. Jazz- D-Will
5. PHX- Nash
6. OKC- Westbrook
7. Spurs- Parker
8. Blazers- Miller


Now I realize after listing all of these PG's that they are not all better than Felton. BUT, if a team has a PG who is below Felton, they have a big star(or two) on the team that keeps them in the Playoffs. (For example: LA has Fisher, but they also have Kobe/Gasol.)

So basically what I am getting at is we need a great point guard or a superstar player to get into the playoffs and make noise......and getting a new great point guard is more realistic right now, then getting a superstar in CLT.

[Slam]

As quoted in the Observer after the Mavs loss:


Brown declined to point the finger at any player or position, saying the Bobcats' dull edge was the result of multiple issues. Asked if the offensive troubles start at the point guard spot, Brown said it's not that easy to define.
"It's gotta be all five guys," Brown said. "We simply aren't doing that on a consistent basis.
"In order to help Raymond and D.J. (Augustin) everybody has to do their job. If (Stephen Jackson) is going to get double-teamed, he creates an open shot for somebody. Everybody has to do their job.

[spectre]

So basically what I am getting at is we need a great point guard or a superstar player to get into the playoffs and make noise......and getting a new great point guard is more realistic right now, then getting a superstar in CLT.I'm on pins and needles just waiting for you to explain how we're going to get a great point guard.

Something's changed with him AND the entire team since the all star break, but regardless I have no problem with the idea of upgrading from Felton. Question however...is how?

The cap next season has us seriously screwed. Even if we renounce both Felton & TT we're at 59 million and only the MLE. Assuming we don't offer the QO to TT both those guys have the right to refuse a trade as they're FAs.

I imagine we could do that Indiana trade, but that would basically lose our best big in Nazr, we take Ford (who I have a very low opinion of) and upgrade the SG spot with Rush. That was a 3 for 2 trade...so that would bring us down to 9 players.

Maybe then swap Crash for Al Jefferson? Thing is, between the salary we'd have to add another player (which we're short of anyway) so throw in Jinx...we still pick up over 1 million in salary AND we drop another player...that gives us 8 under contract and approx. 5 million (less than a full MLE deal under the proposed LT).

Ford
Jax/Rush
Boris/UPS
AlJeff
TC/Gana

Trade Crash for Andre Miller/Bayless? Upgrade the PG spot but get rid of our best player?

I'm open to suggestions.

[ammofan]

I didnt say that WE WILL get a new great pg, but I said that its alot more likely that we do get an upgrade over Felton, than to get a superstar. You miread what I wrote. I just mean that we can get a pg thru the draft(somehow....I know we dont have a 1st rd. pick if we make the playoffs) and he could turn out great or we could sign or trade for one and that would be alot easier to do than to get a Kobe or LeBron or Bosh for that matter....

In no ways am I saying that we will get a great pg thru the draft or whever, Im just saying its easier to get a pg thats better than Felton, than to get a LeBron or Kobe....

I know I am repeating what I just said alot but Im just trying to make it clear what I was trying to say...

[spectre]

I understood...but for next year we're talking 1% vs. 10% for odds between the two. I just took your thoughts about getting one and tried to make it realistic.

We have no assets to trade for a better PG right now unless we're dealing Crash. It's either a MLE PG (which means we most likely let TT walk or pay the tax) or we re-sign Felton with the idea that we'll move him like we did Okafor and figure we're going over the LT for one season.

I know we all "hope" we can dump an expiring before the end of next season...but I shudder to think what the cost will be.

[Slam]

Maybe then swap Crash for Al Jefferson?
:o

Well I never!!

[ammofan]

I understood...but for next year we're talking 1% vs. 10% for odds between the two. I just took your thoughts about getting one and tried to make it realistic.

We have no assets to trade for a better PG right now unless we're dealing Crash. It's either a MLE PG (which means we most likely let TT walk or pay the tax) or we re-sign Felton with the idea that we'll move him like we did Okafor and figure we're going over the LT for one season.

I know we all "hope" we can dump an expiring before the end of next season...but I shudder to think what the cost will be.

Yea I see what ur saying.....
I dont think we will get a new pg tho, I just think we should. Also lets not do any salary dumps, the one this past summer didnt work out very well!

[teej]

^I think the salary dump this summer worked just fine, seeing as how Nazr has given us almost as much production out of the center spot alone, and once he and Gana come back, we'll be perfect there.

As far as point play, it has more to do with everyone forcing shots and making bad passes. When we were playing well in January, I felt confident when the ball was moving and when someone shot, I thought it was going in. Now, I'm just waiting for the ball to either get turned over or a bad shot to get thrown up. Part of it has to do with forcing Tyrus into the offense, but part is just Jack and Ray being horrible passers. And DJ being the antithesis of both a point and a guard. I can't remember the last time DJ hit a midrange jumper...

Also, we're standing around (outside of Gerald, Theo, and sometimes Boris) on the offensive sets and not letting the ball flow to who it should. Jack is getting too many touches in bad locations, as is Tyrus, and Gerald isn't getting enough touches at all. It's like he isn't even on the court. I know Ray is friends with Jack and DJ is friends with Tyrus, but pass GW the damn ball. He's the only All Star on this team of lunatics.

[SWedd523]

Maybe then swap Crash for Al Jefferson?

That sounds like a FANTASTIC idea ;)

[BRNC]

That sounds like a FANTASTIC idea ;)

It only works for me if Gana is dumped with him...:(

[GoBobs]

The problem is we have no one that can make shots. VS boston we had 8 points that didn't come in the paint or at the free throw line. Our recent troubles have nothing to do with the center position, Theo has played as well as we can expect Naz to play on an average night and much better then Diop or TT have this year.

[teej]

The problem is we have no one that can make shots. VS boston we had 8 points that didn't come in the paint or at the free throw line. Our recent troubles have nothing to do with the center position, Theo has played as well as we can expect Naz to play on an average night and much better then Diop or TT have this year.

Theo hasn't been as good as Nazr, but close. And TT has been a lot better, did you mean TC?

But you're absolutely right about the shots. Boris has been hit or miss, and Jack has been decent, but I don't trust anyone else to hit a J beyond the free throw line.

[110oldeast]

I think there are multiple issues at play. One Felton has become TOO passive. Contrary to the common board logic, the team is better when he plays more aggressive. Against the Clippers and teams of that ilk, he can be deferrential and only involved as a last resort, but it does not work that way with quality competition. It does not mean that he has to take over, but this team was rolling when he, Jack, and Wallace were consistently aggressive parts of the offense. When we played with teams like the Celtics, he was an aggressive participant and attacking.

Unfortunately, there is too much deferring in general and specifically to Jack (most of the time) and whomever is in isolation situations and not enough balance. Felton is too busy playing it safe as a pg and just trying to let things run themselves when that is not working. And unlike in the past, when he noticed things would not work, he would step up and make an aggressive play to get it back on track. Lately, however, he has just taken a laissez faire, let it work itself out approach that hasn't worked.

Jack as a passer, seems to only want to make the spectacular play that leads to an assist and is unwilling to make the pass that just keeps the offense moving along. If he would consistently kick out and repost, there would be more good shots in the offense as he draws a lot of double teams. Despite the fact that he can make bad shots, it does not help produce an efficient offense where everyone knows where there shots are coming from.

I also think that the guys are also trying to feel themselves and each other out. Guys are trying to learn how to adjust to a new rotation, new set of players, and skills. We miss Nazr and Flip although Tyrus and Theo are positive players. Boris is unsure of when to shoot and when to pass. He passes up good shots which often leave the team in the position of taking up a worse shot. Gerald at times gets lost in the shuffle as he is best out of the post, but at times either stops commanding the ball in this position and/or we fail to get it to him there. Other times, teams are able to key on him because they know his moves.

Finally, these All-Star deadline trades always have adjustment periods. The Diaw and Raja one did as well. I can only hope that these guys can mesh in time to make a run to the playoffs.

As to the future, a lot will be sorted out in the next couple of months.

[teej]

Finally, these All-Star deadline trades always have adjustment periods. The Diaw and Raja one did as well. I can only hope that these guys can mesh in time to make a run to the playoffs.

As usual, your post is pretty much spot on, but this part isn't really.

Going back and looking at the W-L column, The Diaw-Bell trade took the travel day to Detroit, the 4 point loss at Atlanta, then they won 4 out of 5. The Jack trade took 3 losses (all by less than 10) before we won 4 in a row and 6 of 8.

This trade, however, has had 7 games to initate Tyrus and Theo in, and since the win over the Cavs in TT's and Theo's debuts, we're 1-5. So I don't think it has to do with the trade as much as the other existing problems we had prior to the ASG.

And until Gana comes back (Bonnell says he's the first to be back, which means Tyson's probably next :rolleyes:) we aren't going to win against any team with size, especially not LA. GSW and Miami are very much winnable, though.

[BobcatsAllDay]

I think there are multiple issues at play. One Felton has become TOO passive. Contrary to the common board logic, the team is better when he plays more aggressive. Against the Clippers and teams of that ilk, he can be deferrential and only involved as a last resort, but it does not work that way with quality competition. It does not mean that he has to take over, but this team was rolling when he, Jack, and Wallace were consistently aggressive parts of the offense. When we played with teams like the Celtics, he was an aggressive participant and attacking.

Unfortunately, there is too much deferring in general and specifically to Jack (most of the time) and whomever is in isolation situations and not enough balance. Felton is too busy playing it safe as a pg and just trying to let things run themselves when that is not working. And unlike in the past, when he noticed things would not work, he would step up and make an aggressive play to get it back on track. Lately, however, he has just taken a laissez faire, let it work itself out approach that hasn't worked.

Jack as a passer, seems to only want to make the spectacular play that leads to an assist and is unwilling to make the pass that just keeps the offense moving along. If he would consistently kick out and repost, there would be more good shots in the offense as he draws a lot of double teams. Despite the fact that he can make bad shots, it does not help produce an efficient offense where everyone knows where there shots are coming from.

I also think that the guys are also trying to feel themselves and each other out. Guys are trying to learn how to adjust to a new rotation, new set of players, and skills. We miss Nazr and Flip although Tyrus and Theo are positive players. Boris is unsure of when to shoot and when to pass. He passes up good shots which often leave the team in the position of taking up a worse shot. Gerald at times gets lost in the shuffle as he is best out of the post, but at times either stops commanding the ball in this position and/or we fail to get it to him there. Other times, teams are able to key on him because they know his moves.

Finally, these All-Star deadline trades always have adjustment periods. The Diaw and Raja one did as well. I can only hope that these guys can mesh in time to make a run to the playoffs.

As to the future, a lot will be sorted out in the next couple of months.

Damn good post. I was thinking the same thing w/ Ray not being in attack mode lately, not to necessarily score but to make something (anything) happen. That could be more LB than him however. And Jack w/ the ball movement, you're all over it.

[Brown'sTown]

I don't think we need a great PG so much as we just need a great player period. As was pointed out, among the best teams not all of those PGs are better than Felton, but they have better players in general and usually one guy thats way better than anyone on our team. As good as Nash, CP3 and D-Wil are, those guys' teams aren't every really competing for championships. A star PG can make a team good, but the best teams typically have a role player at point and a superstar on the wing as well as an all star in the post. I could see the Lakers grabbing Felton in the offseason and he'd be a perfect fit because he'd have to do nothing but play defense and hit the occasional clutch shot if Kobe defers. He's really similar to Fisher in many ways so it makes sense for him. If you look at loaded rosters like the Lakers and Mavs it's really just unfair. Those teams have a superstar 30PPG scorer, plus as many as 4 or 5 guys who would average 20PPG on the Bobcats. Jack and Wallace are good pieces, but on most decent teams they're a 2nd or 3rd option. We need to find a superstar, and you almost always have to draft those guys. Unfortunately we aren't in a position to do that and we blew the opportunities we've had. We've done dumb things like give Okafor a huge contract, not play Nazr and trade for Diop. The roster is weak and we don't have any cap room. For now, it probably is best to look for another starting PG rather than spending the cash. We'll need one who can score since this team is miserable offensively. Felton isn't a good fit here and DJ just plain sucks. Theres nothing understandable about his struggles, he's terrible. He's making McInnis look like an all star at this point. Things aren't looking good for this squad. I personally think we should be trying to develop Thomas, Brown, and Henderson as much as possible and hope one of them turns out to be a real stud. Maybe we can make a trade for an unhappy young superstar at some point. Maybe Chandler's expiring deal next year will be good bait to nab a grumpy star someone wants off their books. If we don't make the playoffs I think everyone should be available for trade and we should be looking at any possible way of upgrading the talent on our roster.

[spectre]

Ron in Nj:
Bill, Knicks are in need of a PG this summer. Who is the better fit? Luke Ridnour, Randy Foye, or Ray Felton? Is Camby really the best option for C?



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Bill Ingram:

Camby's inability to play through even the slightest injury makes him a tough sell, to me. Ray Felton is the best point guard in your list, but will Charlotte really let him walk? Hard to see that, given Larry Brown's resistance to playing DJ Augustin. Is Ridnour the best the Knicks can do, though? If so, there are more dark times ahead.

From Ingram's Chat. Just his opinion o'course. Maybe that will change if DJ can sustain his better play of late.

[Slam]

Thought they had pegged Sergio as their PG of the future?

[Scottley Crue]

From Ingram's Chat. Just his opinion o'course. Maybe that will change if DJ can sustain his better play of late.




Is it just me or at least these in these last 3 or 4 games does the offense seem to run better with DJ at the point? Just looks like to me that the offense crawls with Felton in there lately. Obviously could be several different factors, but it does seem to run better with DJ at the helm.

I'm waaaaaaaaaaaay faaaaaaaaaaaaar away from leading a "Let Ray Walk" brigade, but if DJ can continue to make the offense move effectively like I believe he has lately, he could make it easier to say bye to Ray if he wants an insane contract.

[spectre]

He's been hitting shots the last 2 games...3 back was vs the Celtics where he shot 33% and ironically was the subject of this very thread...and Felton hasn't. Another offensive threat gives the defense more to react to which loosens it up for the other guys.

[Slam]

DJ looked awesome against the Celts................until LB sat him the entire 3rd.

[spectre]

Even in that game he couldn't hit anything other than a layup...but yeah, he did look pretty good in about the first 5 or 6 minutes of the 2nd quarter til Pierce & Garnett came back in. After that they built the lead back up and our offense went south again.

In the 4th he was pretty ineffective (just like Felton was).

[SWedd523]

DJ still needs to bulk up. Too many times (even this year) have I seen him use his quickness to get by the defender only to get bumped off his line when he rises for the layup. If he can get to where he can absorb the contact, he'll be so much better offensively

[Slam]

DJ still needs to bulk up. Too many times (even this year) have I seen him use his quickness to get by the defender only to get bumped off his line when he rises for the layup. If he can get to where he can absorb the contact, he'll be so much better offensively
The kid spends far too much time on the seat of his pants after a layup attempt.

I know he gets smoked, but you aint going to do much good sitting on your arse watching!

[teej]

DJ still needs to bulk up. Too many times (even this year) have I seen him use his quickness to get by the defender only to get bumped off his line when he rises for the layup. If he can get to where he can absorb the contact, he'll be so much better offensively

Either that or he needs to stop trying to be like Ray down low and be more of a Steve Nash type scorer. He's not going to bulk up too much, because he's not that soft to begin with. He's just tiny. I doubt he's 6 feet, and he's got a small frame. Not the type you want driving for a contested layup.

[SWedd523]

I'm not saying he should go strong to the hole. I'm saying he needs to find some go-to move when driving. CP3 is small, he uses a floater, Nash uses a little pull up jumper. Both are extremely effective.

If Auggie can develop either one, he'll be way more effective/less predictable, and he won't be on his rear watching the play develop on the other end of the court

[teej]

If Auggie can develop either one, he'll be way more effective/less predictable, and he won't be on his rear watching the play develop on the other end of the court

Which helps on both ends, and maybe his PT, too.

He's predictable enough I'd bet you could keep him from scoring inside the paint 9 times out of time.

[110oldeast]

I think the fact that DJ is thin and hits the floor allows him to get many calls that Felton doesn't as a pg despite being less of a vet and at times clearly going to draw a foul.

It's good to see that Ray recognized his role as pg and offense initiator and stopped OVERdeferring, as I said in close games against good comp, he tends to be play a significant role in us being successful. The pass the ball and get out of the way shit isn't going to work against teams worth a damn and in close games.

I think too many folks (including the Bobcats) got caught up in Jack's versatility and tried to turn him into something he is not (a Lebron, Wade, or Kobe type through whom you initiate and run the offense). He is a terrific secondary facilitator, but there becomes a diminishing returns in terms of playmaking. Tonight we had the right balance and the offense was more balanced because of it. There will be times where we will put it on his back, but I think again trying Lebronize him is not a recipe for long-term success.

Boris still turns away from good shots, but he did a good job of being more assertive at times and making good passes at others. DJ has been a terrific spark offensively off the bench and I hope he can keep his shot going.

[Slam]

I'm not saying he should go strong to the hole. I'm saying he needs to find some go-to move when driving. CP3 is small, he uses a floater, Nash uses a little pull up jumper. Both are extremely effective.

If Auggie can develop either one, he'll be way more effective/less predictable, and he won't be on his rear watching the play develop on the other end of the court
Totally know what you mean SWedd. It's that in between game the greats have.

He had that awesome step back at Texas from mid range on the drive.

Be VERY handy for him to find that in the pros.

[Slam]

DJ has been a terrific spark offensively off the bench and I hope he can keep his shot going.
He's been MUCH more than that.

He's been running the team.

We have looked fantastic as a team when DJ has been in pushing the ball which keeps people moving without the ball and get into position because they know that DJ will try and get the ball to them.

[Toocool]

PGs are really starting to lift. Augustin is looking good, Felton's stats are below his season average but he looks much more confident and relaxed out there. If they can keep up this work, we have a great chance for the playoffs.

[Slam]

PGs are really starting to lift. Augustin is looking good, Felton's stats are below his season average but he looks much more confident and relaxed out there. If they can keep up this work, we have a great chance for the playoffs.
Felts looked great passing the ball in the 1st half but not so good scoring.

But then in the 3rd, he really stepped up his scoring and looked amazing. For the most part they couldn't stop him. There was one coast to coast drive where he did that twisty/turny thing as he entered the key for his layup and he sort of dunked the ball.

Any way, it was pretty as hell. Strong, powerful, singled minded but also pretty as hell.

He looks AWESOME when he looks to score and not draw fouls like that. Awesome. He's SO hard to stop in the key at times.

Needs to get that sweet floater back though.

He did a really outstanding job of picking his spots tonight though and a REALLY outstanding job of pacing the game.

[110oldeast]

Wasn't trying to reduce DJ has done, but point taken. I think the kid has played terrific ball the last 4-5 games and has been a spark for the team. That was more my point than anything.

That said, getting back to a point I made earlier in the thread, I don't think it's a coincidence that much of the initial runs take place when we are not forcing things through Jack in the halfcourt where the ball does much of its stalling when we struggle. It's often when Graham or Henderson are in the game with him when the run starts as they aren't ball stoppers. That said I think DJ has done a terrific job of pushing the ball and getting things going offensively. I think he is getting his confidence back and he will be a key if we are going to make a push as we need help from the second unit in adding to a lead or reducing a deficit.

I honestly think we would be better if we had both pgs push the ball more as they both can be effective in transition. But then again, I felt that way before the year started. I understand LB wants to do this opportunistically. I think that when our wings get the ball to the pgs instead of trying to bring it up themselves, we also tend to be more efficient in transition. Crash has plays where he goes coast to coast, but good teams have caught on and I think if he gave it up to a pg and filled the lane, we would get more buckets than when he tries to bring it up himself as teams have begun to wall up against him. Efficient transition offense took place tonight when both pgs pushed the ball. Furthermore, Jack made SIMPLE plays and did not hold the ball waiting for the perfect, but barely possible passes for assists.

I think we have 2 wings who are terrific, but who aren't quite Kobe, Bron, Wade, Roy, etc. level and we have too often put it on them to be that. If we find balance like we did tonight and the pgs both play with aggression/assertiveness, I think our offense will be fine. That's the biggest thing that DJ has done consistently in the past 4-5 games that Felton has not. He has come in with aggression and attacked putting pressure on the defense. Felton before tonight has done excessive deferring. If both guys are pushing it, it will put pressure on the defense and open things up for everyone.


He's been MUCH more than that.

He's been running the team.

We have looked fantastic as a team when DJ has been in pushing the ball which keeps people moving without the ball and get into position because they know that DJ will try and get the ball to them.

[110oldeast]

Agreed on these points, especially on getting the floater back.



Felts looked great passing the ball in the 1st half but not so good scoring.

But then in the 3rd, he really stepped up his scoring and looked amazing. For the most part they couldn't stop him. There was one coast to coast drive where he did that twisty/turny thing as he entered the key for his layup and he sort of dunked the ball.

Any way, it was pretty as hell. Strong, powerful, singled minded but also pretty as hell.

He looks AWESOME when he looks to score and not draw fouls like that. Awesome. He's SO hard to stop in the key at times.

Needs to get that sweet floater back though.

He did a really outstanding job of picking his spots tonight though and a REALLY outstanding job of pacing the game.

[teej]

He's been MUCH more than that.

He's been running the team.

We have looked fantastic as a team when DJ has been in pushing the ball which keeps people moving without the ball and get into position because they know that DJ will try and get the ball to them.

For the last week or so, DJ has been miles ahead of Ray. Tonight was the first time the team seemed to flow regardless of PG, and that's encouraging.

[Slam]

For the last week or so, DJ has been miles ahead of Ray.
No he hasn't.

Felts is still doing what he has been doing for 95% of the season and doing it really well.

Man you get on and off players quickly.

[Slam]

I honestly think we would be better if we had both pgs push the ball more as they both can be effective in transition.
I assume this is by design?

I think that LB sees that 2nd unit (DJ, Hendo, Hulk, T2, TC) as a group who can come in and just blow the doors off things by getting up and down and going full out for 4-7 mins of a game and really get us the "mo". The 1st unit is much more a stabilized unit who can just grind it out.

Totally agree with getting the ball out of Jax hands though. Let him do what he does. Let him pick and choose his spots rather than force the issue so much.

Allowing him some time on the offensive end should help him conserve energy and be more productive on the defensive end too - something we really, really need from him.

[Toocool]

Knowing LB I wouldn't be surprised if he shoved TC into starting spot in the coming weeks.

I'm with Slammy on this one. Jax does try to force too many passes. Let the PG's do most of the work. Jax can pass, but he shouldn't always be focusing on passing.

[Ghost Kat]

I think it might be time to dust off the " Start DJ " hat in the back of my closet. Maybe even shine up the " DJ for MVP" ring?

:shrug:
2 early?

[BRNC]

...a bit premature IMO...

[teej]

No he hasn't.

Felts is still doing what he has been doing for 95% of the season and doing it really well.

Man you get on and off players quickly.

For the Dallas, Boston, and LA games Ray was really forcing it, and he just looked bad. He was back to turning it over a lot. DJ let the offense flow through him, and while I'm sure most of it had to do with him making shots, the team was a lot better when he was on the court.

I don't get "on and off" guys a lot, I generally stick to my feelings on a lot of players. I think Ray is our starting PG as I have since I joined, and I think DJ is an undersized 2 guard. I just think DJ has been playing better of late...