Los Angeles Lakers at Charlotte Bobcats 3/5

[ziggy]

We are on the outside looking in people...

http://bobcatsplanet.com/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/outside_looking_in.jpg

Miami's win over the Lakers last night managed to drop us 1.5 games out of the 8th seed and simultaneously piss off the Lakers as they enter tonight's game against us :facepalm:

In the enemy's game thread (http://forums.lakersground.net/viewtopic.php?t=106177), they don't seem to be overflowing with confidence. Apparently they didn't see how 'Cats laid down and gave it up to the Celtics.


And lest you forget, We will see the triumphant return of this guy tonight:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BYNql1zsUn4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gSlA2yb-I4A



What is going to be? Can we turn it around or do the ass kickings continue?

[teej]

Without Gana, Nazr, and Tyson, we're not winning.

[ziggy]

Right now Nazr and Tyson "Expiring Contract" Chandler are game-time decisions for tonight (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhHq6.voDLLu8LwI_AdxUoe8vLYF?slug=ap-bobcats-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns).

[teej]

Right now Nazr and Tyson "Expiring Contract" Chandler are game-time decisions for tonight (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhHq6.voDLLu8LwI_AdxUoe8vLYF?slug=ap-bobcats-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns).

And Bonnell said Gana was the first back :facepalm:

If either one is in any way able to play, then we have a chance.

[BRNC]

I'm not holding much hope for this one...

[Woodsy23]

ahh it makes me sick to think only about a month ago we were flying high :cool: all we can do is stick with it and hope it turns around at some point, but no im gonna have to agree with popular opinion another big fat L tonight would be good to see nazr get some play time :( as for Chandler he can spend the rest of his contract on the injury list for all i care.

[GoBobs]

It doesn't matter who plays center. If we can't hit our outside shots, which has been our problem during this losing stretch not center play, we lose.

[spectre]

It doesn't matter who plays center. If we can't hit our outside shots, which has been our problem during this losing stretch not center play, we lose.

It's not mutually exclusive.

[GoBobs]

It's not mutually exclusive.

I don't see that much drop off in our center play. Theo has played great since he has been here. He produces slightly less points and rebounds then Nazr but does a better job of protecting the rim.

DJ on the other hand has been the most consistently poor performer during this stretch. We have no shooting coming off the bench now that flip is gone and DJ can't buy a basket. Jack is good but streaky. Raymond is usually good for 3-8. Diaw is streaky as hell. Why wouldn't you just pack it in on this team. THIS is the main reason we have been so terrible.

[Marvel]

2 words......Ass Whipping and WTF is Adam Morrison doing:hysterical:

[ziggy]

Nazr, Diop and Expiring Contract will all be out tonight (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AoohIbACHgmV7_jRckHVMvG8vLYF?slug=ap-bobcats-injuries&prov=ap&type=lgns)

[CatNation]

Dell is saying Tyson is playing?

[spectre]

http://kendricblog.blogspot.com/

NICE Veetle link!

[CatNation]

Tyson might play?
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2010/03/chandler-back-versus-lakers.html

[spectre]

I hope so...Gasol has been eating Boris' lunch early.

[Talent]

Having no centers is sucking...why not call up Lexi and have a useful player on the bench I know he is a PF, but we need something.

[jdub28]

Any streams?

[spectre]

TC is in!

...and gets his first foul in like 5 seconds!

http://www.atdhe.net/14348/watch-los-angeles-lakers-vs-charlotte-bobcats

[Talent]

Hearing a lot of Lakers "fans" at our house....makes me sad. Least Jordan gets a sell out.

[spectre]

No doubt...there was a lot of booing on that Fish foul.

[CatNation]

Maybe Tysons ankle wouldnt be so sore if he didnt jump at every pumpfake, headfake etc

[spectre]

8 - 0 run!!!!!!!!

Pushing the tempo and we're looking pretty good doing it.

TC's making a difference.

[Talent]

It is nice to see the team run...this would be such a great uptempo team.

[spectre]

We've got to tighten down on the offensive boards...5 to 1 already.

Eh...Jax held onto it too long.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I'm glad we have chandler back. Cant believe im saying that

[Talent]

I'm glad we have chandler back. Cant believe im saying that

Having a real center helps in many ways. Chandler came in a slowed Gasol, and Bynum down who had free reign in the middle before that.

[CatNation]

henderson?:confused:

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Henderson is in. WHAT

I like I think

[spectre]

Is that Gerald Henderson?

Heh...and the whole board gapes in wonder!

That was one helluva hesitation move DJ just did to get a free line to the basket.

...and then Farmar gets it right back +1

[Talent]

wow a HENDO sighting this early...has hell frozen over?

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Dj omg did a rookie year move yes

[catsandheels]

Henderson in and wallace actually in!!!!! What happend!!!

[CatNation]

the youngins doin work!!!!!

[spectre]

This is what I want to see from our bench! They've already scored more (discounting TT) in these few minutes than they've given us the last few games combined!

[Talent]

This is exciting basketball.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

If Henderson could allow Wallace to sit a tiny bit longer and somewhat be the backup that Flip was...if only

[catsandheels]

Lineup working good please lb please keep it like this

[CatNation]

Larry you're not too old to change! play the young gunssssss

[catsandheels]

if hendo can run with the lakers i think he deserves to play

[jdub28]

if hendo can run with the lakers i think he deserves to play

I don't think that is an "if", but "when he is allowed to". Shannon Brown didn't suddenly gain hops and improved ball handling when he was traded.

[LadyCats Rule]

Wish they wouldn't turn the ball over so much. On the other hand 'Cats are taking advantage of the Lakers' turnovers.

[spectre]

Anyone else getting this from Steph about the "issues" in the locker room?

[jdub28]

Anyone else getting this from Steph about the "issues" in the locker room?

Every locker room has issues, look at the Celtics, or Orlando last year. I think it is good that Wallace said something and it seems like everyone is responding appropriately.

[Slam]

Anyone else getting this from Steph about the "issues" in the locker room?
Just mentioned the same thing at RGM.

Makes me feel pukey hearing it come fro Steph's mouth. You know she wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't serious.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Anyone else getting this from Steph about the "issues" in the locker room?

This doesn't mean anything but I found this

http://detroit4lyfe.com/articles/general-sports/breaking-turmoil-in-charlotte-bobcats-locker-room-confirmed-by-bobcats-jump-off.html

[Talent]

Here come Byrant's phantom star calls.

[spectre]

Bet Felton's ass is hurting a little bit after that chewing.

Sure jdub...just wanted to know if there was more information as I missed her earlier report.

[catsandheels]

hEndo still cant shoot

[spectre]

Just mentioned the same thing at RGM.

Makes me feel pukey hearing it come fro Steph's mouth. You know she wouldn't be saying it if it wasn't serious.

Exactly. Did you hear the earlier report?

Hendo and Felts played some great D just then but o'course Kobe sinks a sick shot.

[Talent]

Funny glitch on ESPN.com in the scores.... says

Lakers 51
Bobcats 36

[spectre]

Awesome D by Hendo!!!!!!

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I'm reminded about thinking that Henderson can end up like a slightly offensivly improved version of Raja Bell.

[Slam]

Exactly. Did you hear the earlier report?
Yup. Two crosses to Steph, two mentions of bad blood in the team.

Screw protecting the innocent Steph......SPILL THE BEANS!!

[spectre]

Yup. Two crosses to Steph, two mentions of bad blood in the team.

Screw protecting the innocent Steph......SPILL THE BEANS!!

I think I can figure out the culprit.

and give TC some credit. Before he came in I thought Gasol was going to have 20 in the 1st quarter. I'm not sure he even scored (maybe 1?) since TC first came in.

Supposedly if you put a body on Gasol and rough him up a little it'll throw his game off.

[Marvel]

The heck...Hendo is actually playing

[Slam]

I think I can figure out the culprit.

and give TC some credit. Before he came in I thought Gasol was going to have 20 in the 1st quarter. I'm not sure he even scored (maybe 1?) since TC first came in.

Supposedly if you put a body on Gasol and rough him up a little it'll throw his game off.
Who do you think it is?

[catsandheels]

hendo keeps up the good play we might not have to worry bout signing a fa

[spectre]

I loved that D...man I've missed ya.

Regardless of whether he was our best move TT is definitely something we've lacked. A very agressive scorer with a pretty damn good midrange shot.

Not to mention that help D in the paint.


Who do you think it is?The one who bitches and whines about everything. The one we know would cause problems eventually.

I'd have loved to have seen the look on Crash & LB's face when Jax took that quick 3 off the steal/fast break early in the game.

[Slam]

The one who bitches and whines about everything. The one we know would cause problems eventually.
He has looked especially disinterested since the opening tip of the Clipper game that's for sure so it would make sense.

[spectre]

He has looked especially disinterested since the opening tip of the Clipper game that's for sure so it would make sense.

Was that right after the ASB? Shame if that was it and he can't throw that off.

[Marvel]

Oh well this is off a back to back for the Lakers on the road

[rsxnova]

Ahh shit!!!

[spectre]

Crash draining 3s!!!!!!!!!!

[Slam]

Was that right after the ASB? Shame if that was it and he can't throw that off.
Dude - I didn't even think of that, but you might be onto something.

Maybe he is biter and was holding some resentment toward Crash?

If he did, that pretty much headlines the act of selfishness.

[catsandheels]

Playin good D tonite

[Marvel]

Maybe this will be the game that turns the season around

[Marvel]

Some consipracy theorists in the house tonight

[Marvel]

Felton is not a good passer

[catsandheels]

We shouldnt be getting to excited about this game its not over yet but if we can win this game i think we can win our next few games and work our wayy back up

[Slam]

Felton is not a good passer
It's a pity because tonight he has played a really good game other wise. His passing has been horrible though.

[Talent]

Why do I get more and more nervous as the lead got bigger big leads always scare me when I watch the Bobcats.

[spectre]

Man those offensive boards are killing us.

Artest - Asshole.

[Marvel]

Artest was like...."Fuck off man,oh i'm sitting on Gerald's face my bad"

[rsxnova]

There is going to be a fight

[spectre]

Hah...TC is in Gasol's head!

[spectre]

Yayyyyyyyyyyy!!!!!!!!!! DJ hit the 3!!!!!!!!!

I love TT's weakside D!

[Marvel]

Deeeee Jaaaaaay

[rsxnova]

The Bobcats came to fuck shit up tonight. Did anyone see Diaw show emotion on the bench?

[Maal]

Come guys, hold on! Play defense and don't turn the ball over, and we'll be fine

[Talent]

The Bobcats came to fuck shit up tonight. Did anyone see Diaw show emotion on the bench?

I saw that....I nearly pee'd myself from shock I didn't know he wasn't an emotionless robot programed to show flashes of greatness than disappoint.

[spectre]

LOL Kobe was all over Felton that time!

Tonight was a good night for Felton to struggle with the TOs.

TT for the SLAM!!!!

DJ is playing really well.

[Marvel]

Ooooh Weeee highlight of the night

[spectre]

TT sucking in those boards!

They finally call a foul on Kobe and the crowd cheers!

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Dj looking like a lottery pick?

YES

[Talent]

TT sucking in those boards!

They finally call a foul on Kobe and the crowd cheers!

They made it up to Kobe with the phantom three foul. The league has to keep him higher PPG than Durant.

[Slam]

TT sucking in those boards!!
I LOVE the way he is going after it. Like his life depends on it.

He wants the hard ball more than any other player on the court - and he's getting it.

[Marvel]

TT get's off the floor so quickly and his vertical is insane

[ohara831]

Not sure if mentioned here yet, But Rodney Stuckey collapsed in Detroit game and taken to ER on a stretcher.

[spectre]

I LOVE the way he is going after it. Like his life depends on it.

He wants the hard ball more than any other player on the court - and he's getting it.

So do I.

You know he's going to be judged by his amount of boards, but I doubt he'll average very high because he's really concerned with protecting the rim like Crash used to.

I'm perfectly fine with that. We've desperately needed it.

[Slam]

Not sure if mentioned here yet, But Rodney Stuckey collapsed in Detroit game and taken to ER on a stretcher.
Just read that on the RGM wiretap. Hope he is ok. It said he had some sort of siezure?

[spectre]

Not sure if mentioned here yet, But Rodney Stuckey collapsed in Detroit game and taken to ER on a stretcher.

Holy shit. Did he get injured or did he just collapse?

[WarioVsMooChicken]

Beat the Cavs and Lakers
Lose to Nets and Clippers

[Talent]

Holy shit. Did he get injured or did he just collapse?

Collapsed. I was looking in on it, and thought of that Celtics player...Bias. It happened during a Timeout. I hope he is ok.

[jdub28]

DET called a timeout and he just fell out on the bench. Hubie Brown said he didn't notice any sluggishness the whole game. When he was carted off his eyes were still closed, no thumbs up.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

With athletes having issues with their hearts it makes you wonder if he just collapsed if that was not the reason.

[Marvel]

Damn he just collapsed apparently:http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=4970473

[jdub28]

Collapsed. I was looking in on it, and thought of that Celtics player...Bias. I hope he is ok.

Yesterday was the anniversary of that guy from Loyola (Hank Gathers?).

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Collapsed. I was looking in on it, and thought of that Celtics player...Bias. It happened during a Timeout. I hope he is ok.Bias had a drug overdose there was another Celtic that had heart issues but I can't think of his name.

Hank Gathers or Loyla Marymount died on the basketball court in the early 90's.

[TheLegend]

I hope that Rodney will be ok. Also, glad that the Bobcats got a win. TT looked amazing along with DJ and Henderson. Let's beat the Warriors next!!!!

Good Night guys.

[Slam]

So do I.

You know he's going to be judged by his amount of boards, but I doubt he'll average very high because he's really concerned with protecting the rim like Crash used to.

I'm perfectly fine with that. We've desperately needed it.
With his help side D, ability to board, his quickness and mid range J, we just need an post playing C to play next to him.

Don't want to rehash the old stuff, but if ONLY Doc Hibbert had lasted a couple more spots............

[Slam]

Holy shit. Did he get injured or did he just collapse?
Just collapsed.

[BETCATS]

That Stuckey thing is crazy. I hope he is okay.

As for us, i am happy we finnaly got it together. I hope we can build off this.

[dnbman]

Just collapsed.

Apparently, he's o.k.

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ap-pistons-stuckey&prov=ap&type=lgns

[ohara831]

Cannot believe we dominate the Cavs and Lakers, but have so much trouble with teams we are suppose to beat. Mind boggling. But what a very good win. Great to see DJ step it up again. Been far too long.

[spectre]

I'm ecstatic about the win...but I can't help but be brought down a little by this about Stuckey. Stuff like that makes the game real.

[jdub28]

Cannot believe we dominate the Cavs and Lakers, but have so much trouble with teams we are suppose to beat. Mind boggling. But what a very good win. Great to see DJ step it up again. Been far too long.

Does this make the Nets better than the Cavs and Lakers by way of transitive property?

[Slam]

I'm ecstatic about the win...but I can't help but be brought down a little by this about Stuckey. Stuff like that makes the game real.
The Stuckey thing is a downer, no doubt, but after the win we just had and the way we just played against the Lakers there is nothing on God's green Earth that is going to stop Mrs Slam from getting some sweet, sweet lovin' tonight!!!

[dnbman]

The Stuckey thing is a downer, no doubt, but after the win we just had and the way we just played against the Lakers there is nothing on God's green Earth that is going to stop Mrs Slam from getting some sweet, sweet lovin' tonight!!!

Are you going to get to watch this time?

BTW, if you can't we'll post the pics on RGM for you!

[spectre]

Well on the DET board they say he's awake and stable. First they were saying he had a seizure.

With that settled...

WE WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Finally our bench gave us some production. I can't begin to guess when the last time we got 10 points or more from those guys not counting TT. Our starters are good, but they're nowhere near that good. Asking 3/4 to have very good games every night ain't gonna happen.

And every good game by TT is another splinter in the Bulls fans' collective fingernails!!!!!!!!!!!!

Best of all worlds!!!!

[spectre]

Are you going to get to watch this time?

BTW, if you can't we'll post the pics on RGM for you!

:rim:





:hysterical:

[dnbman]

Well on the DET board they say he's awake and stable.

Yeah, the Yahoo link said that he was conscious and breathing on his own on the way to the hospital. Hopefully, it was just a fluke pass out and nothing serious.

[ziggy]

It figures that one of the few televised games that I haven't been able to see would be one of the games that was probably amazingly fun to watch.

Someone please let me know how did Gerald Henderson manage to get so many minutes? Did Stevie Graham get shot in the kneecap or something? :g:

[spectre]

It figures that one of the few televised games that I haven't been able to see would be one of the games that was probably amazingly fun to watch.

Someone please let me know how did Gerald Henderson manage to get so many minutes? Did Stevie Graham get shot in the kneecap or something? :g:

LB most likely meant to send in Graham but without looking pointed at Hendo instead. Being a smart guy Hendo got in before Larry realized his mistake and made the most of it.

Either that or PT was the stakes in that HORSE game.

[GoBobs]

LB most likely meant to send in Graham but without looking pointed at Hendo instead. Being a smart guy Hendo got in before Larry realized his mistake and made the most of it.

Either that or PT was the stakes in that HORSE game.

LOL yea Hendo was reading the forum and took a page from the Ammo Ninja High Five. Exciting to see hendo get some time and also the team get up and down the floor some. Funny quote from the lakers announcers when it was like 34-32 "if the bobcats are goning to let you hang around you HAVE to take advantage of it" Good to know we still scare the crap out of laker announcers.

[gforce33]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/ee/fullj.40b52f48e242d1fcc4b3befb4decd935/40b52f48e242d1fcc4b3befb4decd935-getty-90043814ks016_lak_bobct.jpg:D:D

[Muttley]

I love playing the Lakers.

Every game, Kobe gets pissed off, their fans get pissed off, and the Bobcats tend to play well.

Just finished watching the game ala DVR (forgive me if I'm repetitive, as I haven't been able to read the whole thread yet), and I gotta say I was happy with everybody. Ray didn't have one of his best games (by the end of it), but he hit shots early. Also, LB had the vision to play the hot hand at PG, who was DJ Augustine on this particular night.

Heck, Tyson Chandler played good in the minutes he had! As Steve Martin said, "He made double figures in 'screens set.'"

Everyone seemed to at least try to "Play the right way."

Now, I've seen this team many times before, and I know they play up-or-down to their competition. Still, I've gotta hold out some hope that this team is able to learn from the mistakes of the past [playing like they don't give a damn] and improve for the future [move without the ball, and also pass the f***ing ball]. They showed progress of that type tonight, and there is a real possibility of winning 6-of the next-7.

What a great game, though. Even Hendo (smells like outdoor) played really well in his handful of minutes. Derrick only got some garbage time, but he made sure he scored when he was out there. Great stuff all around. Go 'Cats!

[Toocool]

Wow. Hendo got more than 2 minutes. On the flip side to that, it's awesome that he got in. It would do wonders for his defensive and offensive game guarding Kobe. Jax had a stellar night, even better is that he didn't play for 40+ minutes, so next game he'll be fresher.

Can't believe I'm admitting this but TC looked GOOD out there. Gasol was really bothered by him. We really needed his length out there since Theo, TT and Tyrus wouldn't cut it against 2 7 footers.

Auggie has shown why we drafted him. If he can bring that consistantly, I will be damn happy.

UPS should play more minutes. Crash looked awesome in his minutes (that 3 at the shot clock buzzer was shweet), but they need to drop those minutes.

TT is a beast. Love how aggressive he is. Even though he'll pick up a lot of fouls, LB has given him the "License To Fly"

Great win. Let's keep it up!

[BobcatsAllDay]

The one thing I can take from tonight's game is we are extremely better on offense when our PGs are aggressive. We made a run in the disaster at Boston b/c our PG was aggressive, we put the game away tonight when our PG was aggressive and our play earlier this year was partly due to an attacking PG. So I say from this point on when we are struggling on the offensive end I'm looking for our PGs to be aggressive.

Aggressive count: 4

[teej]

Amazing game. Loved everything from MJ and Nature Boy to Hendo and DJ to Tyson and Tyrus to Jack and G-Dub to LB's presser.

First, where did DJ Augustin's jump shot come from and how long is it staying?

Second, Tyrus looked like a mix of Usain Bolt, Tim Tebow, MJ, and Rodman. WOW. That kid is goooooooood.

Third, Thank God Tyson is back, he might finally be healthy. He looked very solid tonight.

Fourth, Gerald Henderson!! Wow. Playing Raja Bell-like D on Kobe and shooting solidly.

Fifth, Gerald and Jack brought it. Loved that.

Sixth, Pau is a pussy. And Dell called him out for being soft.

Seventh, MJ looked very happy. A happy boss is a good boss.

Eighth, do we have Ric Flair back from the Hornets? Sucks for you, Shinn!!

Ninth, DJ and Tyrus seem to be meshing well and that second unit would look better if UPS and Hendo got some burn with those two.

And tenth, Phil Jackson makes his assistan coaches look like 5 year olds. He has his own high chair.

Great, great, awesome, amazing, super, did I say great game!! Let's not forget how we did it.

[Brown'sTown]

Collapsed. I was looking in on it, and thought of that Celtics player...Bias. It happened during a Timeout. I hope he is ok.

I think you're thinking of Reggie Lewis, not Bias

[King Taharqa]

http://d.yimg.com/a/p/sp/getty/e8/fullj.b9438abe450ae2c32566fb709314371b/b9438abe450ae2c32566fb709314371b-getty-90043814ks021_lak_bobct.jpg

[SWedd523]

I came home for spring break so we went to Kabuto for some sushi and to my surprise.... the game was on!



A few things of note from the game:


It was hilarious when Ray was bringing the ball down and just straight smacked Kobe in the face. Literally busted out laughing.

Crash may be shooting better percentage wise, but his form is just terrible. Downright ugly.

TT is quickly becoming one of my favorite players in the league. He's really beginning to soften the blow of this impending Crash trade.

[spectre]

http://media.charlotteobserver.com/smedia/2010/03/06/00/colfowler0306%202_G39166U14.1+rayandkobe.JPG.embed ded.prod_affiliate.138.jpg

Wonder if Kobe called Felton "young fella" too?

[dnbman]

It was hilarious when Ray was bringing the ball down and just straight smacked Kobe in the face. Literally busted out laughing.

I missed that! Video by chance?

What did he do?

[SWedd523]

I missed that! Video by chance?

What did he do?

Ray was bringing the ball up the court and Kobe was hounding him off to the sideline and when Ray went to spin back to the middle, he spun his arm around and smacked him in the face but Kobe got called for a reach foul or something (to which he bitched about for a good 5 minutes)

[Slam]

Ray was bringing the ball up the court and Kobe was hounding him off to the sideline and when Ray went to spin back to the middle, he spun his arm around and smacked him in the face but Kobe got called for a reach foul or something (to which he bitched about for a good 5 minutes)
Ray was called with the offensive.

It was really sloppy by Felts.

[SWedd523]

That's what I get for not fully paying attention haha. Either way, it was hilarious.

[spectre]

Ray was called with the offensive.

It was really sloppy by Felts.

Kobe was riding him on his hip bumping him the entire way...just like he was when he got called for the foul right before he left the game.

It might have been "sloppy", but I can understand the frustration (even tho I'm sure slapping him in the face was unintentional). The foul should have been called way before that incident.

[Slam]

Kobe was riding him on his hip bumping him the entire way...just like he was when he got called for the foul right before he left the game.
Right, and Felts threw his arm out to try and fend him off and was rightly called for the offensive.

It's something he used to do a lot in previous seasons which you thought didn't happen and would drive me nuts (not you thinking it didn't happen, the fact that he did it). He hasn't done it hardly at all this season which has been great. Having others handle the ball and on ball pressure rather than him has probably been a plus there for him.

Intentional or not, it's sloppy.

[spectre]

Right, and Felts threw his arm out to try and fend him off and was rightly called for the offensive.

All well and good while ignoring that they should have called the foul on Kobe multiple times before the hand went out.


It's something he used to do a lot in previous seasons which you thought didn't happen and would drive me nuts (not you thinking it didn't happen, the fact that he did it).

I remember that too. I went back and checked the play by plays and he'd done it something like twice in 6 games when you were implying it was happening all the time. I also remember you being surprised...thinking it was much more than that.

[Slam]

All well and good while ignoring that they should have called the foul on Kobe multiple times before the hand went out.
Not ignoring, I didn't think he was being fouled.

Of course, I didn't think that Felts was fouling D.Will the other week either.

What Felts did was blatant though - obviously, because he was called for the offensive. There was nothing left to question. He threw his arm out - like he tends to do. Like I said though, he has been MUCH better with it this season. I assume it's because he has others to take care of some ball handling getting him away from some of that up close and personal single coverage.


I remember that too. I went back and checked the play by plays and he'd done it something like twice in 6 games when you were implying it was happening all the time. I also remember you being surprised...thinking it was much more than that.
Being called twice in 6 games or what ever the numbers were (can't remember now, although I thought it was more than that with the sample size you referenced at the time) is two times too many IMO. It's one of the worst turn overs a PG can commit.

It's because he only has ok handles so he has to do things like that. If someone applies a lot of pressure on his dribble, he can panic.

He splits doubles very well though so it's weird. He just seems to struggle with one on one coverage sometimes.

[spectre]

Not ignoring, I didn't think he was being fouled.

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Rules changes have affected defensive philosophies (http://www.nba.com/2009/news/features/david_aldridge/04/22/aldridge.defenses/)

The way the rules are now you can't even touch the guy.


What Felts did was blatant though - obviously, because he was called for the offensive. There was nothing left to question. He threw his arm out - like he tends to do. Like I said though, he has been MUCH better with it this season. I assume it's because he has others to take care of some ball handling getting him away from some of that up close and personal single coverage.

Who's questioning it? I'm saying it shouldn't have reached that point. You might not have thought it was a foul but that episode was much worse than the one Kobe did get called for right before he left the game.

Just my opinion.

Of course the "like he tends to do" & "he's been MUCH better with it this season" kinda contradicts each other. Even tho it was nowhere near as bad as you implied he seems to have corrected it for the most part no? Even from your POV the "tends to do" shouldn't be applicable.


Being called twice in 6 games or what ever the numbers were (can't remember now, although I thought it was more than that with the sample size you referenced at the time) is two times too many IMO. It's one of the worst turn overs a PG can commit.

Same thing you said then. But this 0 tolerance kick you seem to be on is not realistic. Felton's not a perfect player no more than any of our other guys are...so expecting perfection will either lead to disappointment or an opportunity to point out every little error like it's huge.

It's especially disingenuous when the same standard isn't applied to everyone.

I also disagree on the "worst TOs a PG can commit". IMO the worst are the ones parallel to the basket on the perimeter that usually leads to a fast break and 2 points...2 of which he did last night.

One leads to a dead ball...the other leads to points. Turning over possession < scoring.


It's because he only has ok handles so he has to do things like that. If someone applies a lot of pressure on his dribble, he can panic.

He splits doubles very well though so it's weird. He just seems to struggle with one on one coverage sometimes.

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