Charlotte Bobcats at Indiana Pacers 3/16

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** The Pacers **

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Pretty friggin ugly isn't it? Just about as ugly as the Pacers season.

If we can avoid overlooking these guys and win this game that we are "supposed" to win, then we might be able to get a little separation from the Heat, Bulls and Raptors.

We got this on Tuesday Night, Right?

[ND22]

Is Granger back? Either way it shouldn't matter, as long as we aren't overlooking them (which I believe we aren't) we should win this game.

[GoBobs]

The bucks only beat them by 4 the other night no telling what kind of team will show up to play for the pacers. They are a dangerous team though, hungry for a win. They are going to come at us hard at home esp if they know we are without wallace.

[ziggy]

The Pacers have their dancers,

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/5342831_Pacers_v_Heat.jpg

But they are no match for KAAAYYYTTEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEEE

No sir, no match at all.

[BRNC]

These games (coming off a huge win over a very good team) against "lesser opponents" make me nervous...I've got to hope the guys know they need to stay focused....

[GoBobs]

We need to win this because it doesn't get any easier over the next few games. After this we get the Thunder, Hawks, Heat. All possible playoff contenders.

[spectre]

Starting out on a 4 game in 5 night swing with only tomorrow night's being at home, I figure we'll be damn lucky to go .500 but of course I'd prefer to win every one. Tonight is probably our easiest opponent, and a victory in Indy would give us a franchise record win streak. We're probably not looking to have Crash back til Friday night vs. ATL:

Bobcats ready to set another franchise record in Indiana (http://www.bobcatsbreak.com/?p=2008)


The Bobcats will continue to play without Gerald Wallace, who is receiving treatments on his sprained left ankle. His boot has been removed, but he did not participate in practice today. Perhaps a weekend return in Atlanta or Miami sounds like a target for his return.Hulk JR gets another start:

Tuesday: Bobcats at Pacers, 8 p.m (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/15/1316398/tuesday-bobcats-at-pacers-8-pm.html)

and once again Bonnell puts up the wrong start time. :facepalm:

Jax still searching for the love from Indy:

Where's the love? Stephen Jackson wishes Pacers fans would remember the good things he did on the court (http://www.indystar.com/article/20100316/SPORTS04/3160318/1088/SPORTS04)

but LB as is his nature is quick to show it:


"I love guys that care about winning and care about their teammates and love to play," Bobcats coach Larry Brown said. "He's a terrific player. I think he's underrated in every area. He's got a very high IQ."

"He does do silly stuff, but that shows me he still cares," Brown said. "He's different. But as long as guys love to play and care about winning and care about their teammates, I'm OK with that."Tonight could so easily be a trap game, but hopefully this group isn't overlooking anyone and they'll play it one at the time. If they do that then we'll have that record win streak.

[SirBobcat]

I hate to be a Debbie Downer, but i'm kind of expecting a let down. We came off a very emotional game @ Orlando, our confidence is at an all time high, and Indiana beat us in December in a game where it looks deceiving because it took Charlotte to rally in the 4th to get us within range to tie the game.

We should feel the effect of not having Wallace tonight.

[ohara831]

These games (coming off a huge win over a very good team) against "lesser opponents" make me nervous...I've got to hope the guys know they need to stay focused....

This is exactly my concern as well. LB has to get on these guys before hand and make sure they are all focused, to a man. We will need the same type effort tonight as we had in Orlando.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

No Wallace, Hungry and Proud Pacers, Bobcats looking past the Pacers should mean that Katy Will Bar The Door Tonight!!! ;)

[teej]

Raymond Felton (http://www.facebook.com/RaymondFeltonNBA?ref=mf) Lets stay hot and get this W...game tonight-2 minutes ago (http://www.facebook.com/RaymondFeltonNBA?v=feed&story_fbid=397717070947&ref=mf) ·




From Ray's Facebook page.

[Toocool]

See you fellas in about 6 hours. Shouldn't have stayed up so late (only to wake up at 8 am to watch this game =P).

I predict a win:
89-77

I also predict:
-Big dunks from both Theo and TT (They both like to dunk anything and everything)

[CatNation]

Go cats! 7!!!!!!!!!!!!

[spectre]

http://www.atdhe.net/15160/watch-charlotte-bobcats-vs-indiana-pacers

Go Cats!!!

[tamburello]

Ratliff is blocking everything !!

Too bad he's received two early fouls though..

[spectre]

Ratliff is blocking everything !!

What a pity he picked up that 2nd foul...he was intimidating bigtime! Let's hope TC can carry his slack a little bit.

Good start!

[Talent]

Anyone else notice the Pacers "run" into the lane almost in slow motion expecting a foul to be called? Granger and Murphy have both done it so far.

[GoBobs]

any other links mine is acting all kinds of funny

[King Taharqa]

I love how we're getting out on the fast break. GO BOBS!!!

[ammofan]

were gettin it done so far!

[spectre]

We should be up more than 4 points. We shot 56% to their 32%, but we allowed them 7 more shots.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Cats looking sloppy and uncoordinated!!

[Talent]

Cats looking sloppy and uncoordinated!!

They look like they are coasting expecting to win rather than earning the win that could end badly as you can't give a team that's down confidence they can win.

[spectre]

LB needs to sit Jax.

[Slam]

LB needs to sit Jax.
Yuppers. He's killed us this qtr ball hogging and trying to get hot.

[ammofan]

We need to get it 2gether! ASAP!

[BobCatsFanInTx]

They look like they are coasting expecting to win rather than earning the win that could end badly as you can't give a team that's down confidence they can win.Kind of what I predicted with my Katy statement on page one.

[Talent]

Jackson is pissing me off this game taking boneheaded shots.

[Maal]

my blood pressure is slowly rising.....

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Mfers cut out on Crash interview!!!

[GoBobs]

This is one of those things I have always disliked about Jackson. He has no idea what a good shot is when you really need two points. Graham was playing lights out put him back in.

[Talent]

The stream is down anyone have a non UStream/Adthe one? sad I have to stream this in the same state the team plays in.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

The stream is down anyone have a non UStream/Adthe one? sad I have to stream this in the same state the team plays in.That is indeed sad Talent.

[spectre]

http://www.p2p4u.net/watch/14009/1/watch-charlotte-bobcats-vs-indiana-pacers.html

also ustream but it's working

[Talent]

Just keep the bench in. The refs don't want us to win this, the Pacers actually give a crap for a game, and the starters playing like crap. Maybe the bench can be a spark.

[Maal]

That was the worst quarter of the year...and we're only down 9...smh. got dammit, we just have to make a (possible) win against the Pacers hard!

[ohara831]

Wow. Pathetic 2nd qtr. Chance to put space between us and the Heat with Spurs whipping Miami, but we are not doing our part at all. LB better chew some ass and get these guys playing.

[Slam]

The refs don't want us to win this, .
What the hell are you talking about?

What do the refs have to do with Jax costing us that qtr?

[110oldeast]

The bench took a 4 point lead at the end of the 1st quarter and promptly ran it to a 5-7 deficit.LB actually needed to take the 2nd string out earlier, but the foul trouble to Graham and Ratliff messed it up.

Thomas was the only one out of the 2nd unit who wasn't costing the team.


Just keep the bench in. The refs don't want us to win this, the Pacers actually give a crap for a game, and the starters playing like crap. Maybe the bench can be a spark.

[Toocool]

Jax :facepalm:
Bench his ass and keep Hendo/Graham in. Anything is better than the way he's jacking up shots.

[Talent]

What the hell are you talking about?

What do the refs have to do with Jax costing us that qtr?

I was angry when I posted that. It is not just Jackson though it is the whole team letting an obviously worse team out work us.

[GoBobs]

stream works perfectly at halftime :facepalm:

[Slam]

The bench took a 4 point lead at the end of the 1st quarter and promptly ran it to a 5-7 deficit.
Wrong. Jax did that all on his own.

[110oldeast]

And this game reiterates my point by deferring too much to Jax. He is at his best when he can go for a relatively quick score or get rid of the ball and not being point forward for the offense. He is a good secondary playmaker, but he is not Lebron, D-Wade, Kobe, Roy, etc through whom you can run an offense consistently.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Katy is warming up and getting ready to bar the door!!! Not a reverse psychology statement but a real one. Captain Jack alone will not win or lose this game. An inexperienced and overconfident Bobcats team as a whole will lose this game tonight.

If they lose that is.

[110oldeast]

Nope. The ball was continually given to him, we played weak defense (giving up uncontested 3s), several players turned it over. They were flat.

And yes Jax was horrendous.

Jax was the ONLY starter out there for much of the time. In the 1st quarter when he was out there as well the team ended the quarter with a 4 pt lead.

So, the bench along with Jax has to take the blame for that quick 9-11 pt turnaround.


Wrong. Jax did that all on his own.

[Toocool]

Ratliff...that dunk would have been something...too bad he blew it in the end.
Glad he made the 2 FTs though.

[Slam]

And this game reiterates my point by deferring too much to Jax. He is at his best when he can go for a relatively quick score or get rid of the ball and not being point forward for the offense. He is a good secondary playmaker, but he is not Lebron, D-Wade, Kobe, Roy, etc through whom you can run an offense consistently.
1,000,000,000,000% agree.

[Slam]

Nope. The ball was continually given to him, we played weak defense (giving up uncontested 3s), several players turned it over. They were flat.

And yes Jax was horrendous.

Jax was the ONLY starter out there for much of the time. In the 1st quarter when he was out there as well the team ended the quarter with a 4 pt lead.

So, the bench along with Jax has to take the blame for that quick 9-11 pt turnaround.
They only went 2-11 from 3..............you know that right?

Jax ball hogged and became a TOTAL black hole taking bad shot after bad shot and turned the ball over.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I am done watching these Bobkitties flame out!!! Katy bar the door!!! This one is in the books!!! The Cats suck tonight!!! Larry Brown is coaching like crap as well!!!

[Talent]

Is it bad I am hoping for Jax to get a second T?

[110oldeast]

The 2 3s were made during that stretch when the bench was on there.

That was my point. And I am not disagreeing about Jax sucking. I am saying that he was also out there when we got a 4 pt lead. To absolve the other 4 players on the court for the turnaround isn't accurate. He is especially terrible, but they weren't innocent.


They only went 2-11 from 3..............you know that right?

Jax ball hogged and became a TOTAL black hole taking bad shot after bad shot and turned the ball over.

[spectre]

Is it bad I am hoping for Jax to get a second T?

He'll turn it around.













I have to admit I was too there for a second.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

They only went 2-11 from 3..............you know that right?

Jax ball hogged and became a TOTAL black hole taking bad shot after bad shot and turned the ball over.Jax alone is not going to lose this game. He may hurt the team some but if you think everybody else is playing inspired basketball you are watching a different game than I am!!! Larry Brown could also sit Jax out as well. For all that Larry does well he also coaches like shit in certain situations. It appears everybody sucks tonight.

[Talent]

He'll turn it around.













I have to admit I was too there for a second.

I have not given up on jax I am just frustrated at his constant bitching at the refs. They don't pick your horrible shots for you.

[Slam]

The 2 3s were made during that stretch when the bench was on there.

That was my point.
And now that our starters are in and the Pacers have knocked down two 3's in about 4 mins?

[110oldeast]

LB, if you're going to tell the players to try to drive the ball and try to draw fouls and not talk to the refs, you need to open your own mouth.

[Slam]

Jax alone is not going to lose this game. He may hurt the team some but if you think everybody else is playing inspired basketball you are watching a different game than I am!!!
Everybody had no choice but to stand around and watch in the 2nd as Jax black holed the entire qtr.


Larry Brown could also sit Jax out as well. For all that Larry does well he also coaches like shit in certain situations. It appears everybody sucks tonight.
No doubt.

He did sit Jax for about a min after he took that rank 3pt shot in the 2nd though. Just enough time for Jax to sit and think about it for a little while.

LB was obviously making a point.

[110oldeast]

C'mon man, someone said we needed to put the bench in, b/c the starters were terrible.

I simply stated the fact that when the 2nd unit came in, the lead went from +4 to -7, so the conclusion of needing to put the bench in didn't compute.



And now that our starters are in and the Pacers have knocked down two 3's in about 4 mins?

[110oldeast]

Don't continue to run the offense through him.



Everybody had no choice but to stand around and watch in the 2nd as Jax black holed the entire qtr.


No doubt.

He did sit Jax for about a min after he took that rank 3pt shot in the 2nd though. Just enough time for Jax to sit and think about it for a little while.

LB was obviously making a point.

[110oldeast]

I love how Dahntay gets a handcheck call, while we continue to get ignored with real body contact.

As Sheed says, "Ball don't lie."

[Maal]

I'd rather watch UCONN/ Northeastern, than to watch this bullshit...piss poor effort......

[Toocool]

Disappointing how the Cats are playing. I think we've dug a hole possibly too deep to come out of. Don't see us winning unless someone can spark us out of it.

[ohara831]

Pacers just look like they want it more. And given that we are in a playoff race and they are Lottery bound, that just sucks.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

When Jax is being stupid and selfish it does hurt the team but at the same time other players can take it on themselves to make something happen and avoid Jax. Might cause some shit but coach Brown can straighten that shit out.

The Bobcats have allowed the Pacers to feel like a number one seed in the conference and it is too late for the Bobcats to wrest that momentum away. The Bobcats as a whole were not motivated to play good basketball. Jax as well thinks he needs to carry the team when it is obvious tonight he can not and should back of trying to. His teammates should not let him try.

[110oldeast]

Despite the fact that neither pg has played especially well, the difference is that DJ has deferred too much to Jax tonight in the same what that Felton was during our poor stretch of offense. If you just pass the ball Jax and get out of the way, he will go into "Kobe-lite" mode without the skillset.

BOTH pgs have to be more assertive in running the offense. Jackson is A scoring option and A secondary playmaker in the offense. He cannot be THE scoring option and THE PRIMARY playmaker.

When either pg has run the offense assertively, we have gotten better shots. With the 2nd unit, there has been more isolation with Jack and/or Thomas leading to lower quality shots.

[Slam]

Despite the fact that neither pg has played especially well, the difference is that DJ has deferred too much to Jax tonight in the same what that Felton was during our poor stretch of offense. If you just pass the ball Jax and get out of the way, he will go into "Kobe-lite" mode without the skillset.
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BOTH pgs have to be more assertive in running the offense. Jackson is A scoring option and A secondary playmaker in the offense. He cannot be THE scoring option and THE PRIMARY playmaker.
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When either pg has run the offense assertively, we have gotten better shots. With the 2nd unit, there has been more isolation with Jack and/or Thomas leading to lower quality shots.
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[Toocool]

Wish the Clippers Announcers would shut up about that Dundley guy. Have to like refer to him every minute or so. Anyway it's over. Terrible game fellas.

[110oldeast]

My man.

PS: Why the fuck are going UNDER the screen on Danny "Should've picked me instead of Sean May" Granger? Scouting report anyone?



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[spectre]

Hold on Katy...down by only 4 and TT can make it 3! :cool:

Felton's gotten like 3 assists in the last minute or so.

Oh Boris.

[Marvel]

FUCk no timeout and a fucking TO from Diaw:facepalm:

[Maal]

Boris what the fuck!!!!!

[Marvel]

No timeout WTF:facepalm:

[ohara831]

Sad. Just sad. Wasted opportunities.

[cltblkhscoach]

I guess our Bobcats we know and love are back...

[Marvel]

And i was certain we would win this game

[spectre]

Sigh.

What a screwed up game. If you just look at the +/- we had 4 starters +5 or better, Jax with a -4 and the entire bench with -10 or worse. On the flip they only had 2 starters with +8 & +2 and 2 bench guys with +10 or better.

Oh well...least we didn't lose ground. OKC tomorrow night.

[WarioVsMooChicken]

I said if we won 1 out of 2 games with Gerald gone, I'd be happy.

Beating the Magic and losing to the Pacers isnt what I expected.

[spectre]

ELEVEN missed FTs and we shot less than 70%.

Highly frustrating.

[Slam]

Oh well...least we didn't lose ground. OKC tomorrow night.
Dont look now but the Heat are taking it to the Spurs.

[110oldeast]

That was my point earlier in the thread about the 2nd unit. We were up and then lost ground there and were going uphill from there on.

PS: It would be nice to see Felton push the ball in transition more. I will say it again, his potential there in terms of playmaking has been wasted his entire time here. We have the guys to run the floor with him, but we don't seem to make a concerted effort to do it.



Sigh.

What a screwed up game. If you just look at the +/- we had 4 starters +5 or better, Jax with a -4 and the entire bench with -10 or worse. On the flip they only had 2 starters with +8 & +2 and 2 bench guys with +10 or better.

Oh well...least we didn't lose ground. OKC tomorrow night.

[Marvel]

Dont look now but the Heat are taking it to the Spurs.


Nah they're gonna lose

[spectre]

I think everyone realizes the 2nd quarter was the culprit and it it started downhill pretty quickly when we subbed in our bench. You were right tho...it was more everyone deferring to Jax and he was playing 1 v World. Hard to fault the bench for that (I did think their D was pretty lax)...that was on LB. Just like in the SAC game he let him pretty much shoot us out of the game.

To LB's credit Jax did turn it on in the 4th, but it's not like I want him to flat bench the guy. There has to be a happy medium somewhere between that and playing him 47 minutes and change.

[teej]

Had every opportunity to win the game. Indy tried to lose, it seemed like. Stevie played amazingly well, Jax played well late, Boris had a great game, Theo looked like he was 20, and uh, well, that's about it.

Ray, DJ, LB...c'mon, son.

[Talent]

Well Wallace is rested on a back to back at least if he plays tomorrow ;p

[CatNation]

oh well, this was just the basketball (shamm)Gods restoring order to the universe after that win in Orlando. Time to start a new streak tomorrow. Larry and Gerald cant get healthy fast enough!!

[Marvel]

The back to back sickness

[BRNC]

sloppy game (for us) IMO...it was there to win and we refused to step-up and win...poor first-half ball movement...poor defense most of the game...when defensive stops did come=turn-over from us....just a "low-energy" game from us...

I hope we bring better energy against OKC 'cause we'll need it...