View Full Version : Why MJ needs to resign all free agents
Dexmor
03-16-2010, 03:29 PM
I know right now we are 6th in the weak for East but look at the additions we have made this season and imagine a training camp with them and or a second year with them.
Tyson-Jackson-Hughes-Tyrus-Henderson-Brown-Graham-Theo
Now next year with chemistry and a camp they will be a top 5-6 team in the league and the 2nd or 3rd best in the East. I know what your thinking homer alert but here me out. You can't just add those caliber players and only loss Mek-Flip-Law-Radman and not become awesome.
Centers-Tyson-Theo-Diop-Lexi-Nazr
Forwards-Diaw-Tyrus-Wallace-Brown-Graham
Guards-Felton-D.J.-Jackson-Hughes-Henderson
That is 2 top 25 players in the league with 9 guys who can start easy. At least 10 of these players can play multiple positions. 5 of them are guys that can play point in the sense of ballhandling, passing and playmaking.
The C's are just gonna be to old next year, the Hawks are gonna lose JJ imo and the Cats are Cavs and Laker killers so they got a shot vs either. Nuggs and Mavs will still be contenders next year. I can't see anybody thinking any of the other Eastern teams will be better theen us next year besides Cavs and Magic.
So next year I put the power rankings in no order
Lakers
Cavs
Magic
Bobcats
Mavs
Nuggs
Again the Cats don't have a Howard-Dirk-Wade-Lebron or Nash but they are deeper then anybody else with 9 starter quality players and now with Hughes and Ty they are one of the best defensive team and a good offensive team.
Jordan said he wouldn't go into the luxary cause there not championship contenders but it would only be 1 year as Tyson and Nazr come off next year and they if healthy they very well could be contenders.
Even if they traded Chandler and Hendo or Nazr to the Kings (there under the cap) to save money we still are contenders imo as we have 5's galore.
spectre
03-16-2010, 03:48 PM
If Larry can keep from playing with the roster too much I definitely think we could challenge Atlanta for division champion next season.
I think the FO realizes that as well.
Dexmor
03-16-2010, 04:15 PM
Obviously we will be o.k. if they don't resign Graham or Theo but Tyrus-Felton-Hughes are must resigns and here is why
3 Free agents we need to resign to make us elite and why
Tyrus-We gave up a first rounder for him. More importantly he is our best young prospect at 23 who could be an allstar and he is needed right now. Brings energy, has the jumper and the D with the blocks and boards and can play 3 positions. He could probably be had for 5 years 30-40 million which is pretty good unless the Heat or Knicks get nobody and get desperate and throw tons of cash at him.
Felton-Alot of Felton critics but his offense will get better with time and his D is top 5 for his position. Plus it leaves D.J. to play the role of shooter/scorer off the bench which might be best since he the type of guy who needs confidence to play well and losses it easy. I would think pressure could hurt him (D.J)and this is the best way to avoid that. Plus Felton is a LB type pg and odds are Larry leaves anyway but this could prevent LB from leaving a year or 2 later.
Plus it could prevent a T.J. Ford trade and any trade with the Pacers means we get ripped off. Felton is an ironman and Jordan loves Ford who even if he stays healthy now his back problems will catch up to him.
He might be able to had for a back loaded contract or one with bonus's and probably 5 years 35-40 million and the midlevel is 5 years 34 million.
Larry Hughes-He serves alot of purposes which is gota be way Higgens was able to convience Jordan to take him when MJ didn't want to.
1st-Bobcats still are offensively challenged or were but with Hughes there they are not. 2nd Jackson is turning 32 years old so if they want to cut his minutes down and not lose much scoring or the passing ballhandling and D he can hold down the fort and Jackson's mins can go down. 3.Hughes can also play the 3 which means Wallace who will be 28 playing over 42 mins can also get some relief. 3rd reason besides filling the Murray role in scoring off the bench he fits the bill of 3rd pg a combo guard who can play a little point. 4. He can play 3 positions gets you double figure points off the bench and plays both ends of the court. 5.He wants to be here. He said he wanted to sign with the Bobcats to not just be a rental but to resign. 6.His value right now is a complete bargain. I wouldn't be surpised if 3 years 9 million got it done with a team early term clause after 2. Thats a freaking steal. Last time he started he got 15 which would be third in scoring for us. On the Bulls he got in 26 mins 12 points a few dimes,, boards and steals.
MJ keeps these 3 they are contenders.
Free Agents they should sign but will not make or break them, hope they sign em but it's not gonna make me mad if not at all with Hendo and Lexi coming in.
The 2 Free agents they should sign but won't make or break us
Theo-He should be resigned if he is willing to take the min again since he can defenatley still play D for the next couple years. Having him is not only 6 fouls and an insurance policy but a possible teacher-leader and opens things up if we do give away Chandler with Theo there and we don't lose much assuming we go with the Diaw-Tyrus-Wallace front line small ball.
Graham-Not really neccesary but if he could be had at the min again I would jump on it for a 2 year deal to. I know they have Hendo and Hughes but think about it this way Graham is a defensive stud who seems to becoming not a liability on offense. He is a good vet to have in case of injury. If D.J. goes down and Hughes plays backup pg then enter Graham. If Brown gets injured enter Graham or if Hughes or Jackson is out Graham is good to have. Plus back to his D hypothetically he is playing the 2 then that is Jackson-Hughes-Graham to guard the 2's. That is awesome. Hypothetically he is playing the 3 that's Wallace and Graham and Brown playing D on the sf. Only Brown is not a lockdown defender.
On a side not the Thunder picked up Mustafa Shakur which really upset me for 2 reasons. 1 the Bobcats didn't pick him up and I think he has anywhere from 2nd string pg to above average pg. Also if they did a 2 for 1 trade or 3 for 1 he would of made up for it. Also with us not getting a rookie this would have made up for that.
Also I have actually been watching the Dleauge on nbatv mainly because of him but now that's over.
I really hope that the Thunder are just using him to make up for Harden and MJ shows his knack of finding talent by signing him. He is a great trader, see this year but drafting wise he has been the worst of em all.
Walt Cronkite
03-16-2010, 04:16 PM
My dream have come true: Dexmor has found Bobcatsplanet.
Enjoy.
spectre
03-16-2010, 04:20 PM
My dream have come true: Dexmor has found Bobcatsplanet.
Enjoy.
That was your dream? Dude...you need to expand your horizons! :p
The more the merrier...big tent...all shapes and sizes...that's what we're about over here.
BTW...who are the clowns representing now?
Walt Cronkite
03-16-2010, 04:22 PM
Grammar just kicked my ass.
Walt Cronkite
03-16-2010, 04:25 PM
No appropriate representation for the clowns today... our training staff and draft guru's maybe? Still, based on previous disappointments, I feel that it's still important for me to never get too excited about the Bobcats.
spectre
03-16-2010, 04:29 PM
No appropriate representation for the clowns today... our training staff and draft guru's maybe? Still, based on previous disappointments, I feel that it's still important for me to never get too excited about the Bobcats.
Maybe synonymous with my lollipop avatar: there might not be a reason for it now, but based on previous track records there will surely be a need in the future.
I've made a vow tho. If MJ can figure out a way to keep our FAs and still get out of paying the tax (ok, I added the last part) I'm taking it down. We still can't draft for crap...but the trading has been pretty good so far. Good enough where I probably need to stop poking fun anyway.
Dexmor
03-16-2010, 04:47 PM
If Larry can keep from playing with the roster too much I definitely think we could challenge Atlanta for division champion next season.
I think the FO realizes that as well.
The Hawks will be fighting for a playoff seed next year. They are losing there best player. Lebron ain't going to NY. JJ is there backup and with Mike D there it's a safe bet imo he's going there. We are much better then them on paper and in real life. The only advantage they have on us is the 5 and he isn't a big blocking threat.
Tyson-Horford-Hawks
Smith-Diaw-Hawks win but you throw in Ty it makes it even so draw
Williams-Wallace Bobcats
Jackson-Crawford-Bobcats
Bibby-Felton-Bobcats-Bibby s aging, Felton will only be better
Coach-Cats
Bench Cats
This might sound crazy but I think a team who could take the C's place since we will take the Hawks is the Nets. I know they were crap all year this year and to go from a 10 win team to home court is unheard of but the Nets can get 2 free agents this year and are probably getting John Wall (will be the best pg under 6'9 imo, drink the koolaide he is Lebron real). Let's say they just sign David Lee and can't get Gay or a Bosh or they will still have a super squad in
C.Brook Lopez-Third year will be a sure fire allstar
PF.David Lee-19 and 13 guy is pretty amazing
SF.Terrance Williams has been a stud lately like we knew he was gonna be
SG.Devin Harris-6'4 and plays like a 2 anyway.
PG.John Wall-Imo only a matter of when he's the best guard in the league
6th man CDR- A 17-20 point a game guy if not traded.
Dexmor
03-16-2010, 05:06 PM
No if we are gonna draft we need to hire Higgens help even with MJ there. I don't say Brown because I know he is temp no matter what.
I used to say get a new fo but with the trades Higgens has made I want him as the gm espially if he has Jordan's ear.
If they don't get an assistant or a new head scout they need to trade there picks but the problem is you can get a good player for cheap in the draft and steals but if you don't dradt you can't get the steals.
They need to hire a head scout. They have gotten no good euro talents and every signle draft they got there was a much much better player and they drafted guys in the lotto and first round who might not be in the league next year.
Terrible drafts
Morrison
May
Alexa
D.J.-Only cause of Brook being there
Bad but understanable
Mek-should of gotten Iggy
Felton-I thought Granger was gonna be a steal but with his injury a concern then I would have taken Felton to so I don't mind this
Henderson-So many better players but honestly I didn't know Lawson would be that good or Gibson or Thorton or Collison
Good Draft
Derrick Brown
No if we are gonna draft we need to hire Higgens help even with MJ there. I don't say Brown because I know he is temp no matter what.
I used to say get a new fo but with the trades Higgens has made I want him as the gm espially if he has Jordan's ear.
If they don't get an assistant or a new head scout they need to trade there picks but the problem is you can get a good player for cheap in the draft and steals but if you don't dradt you can't get the steals.
They need to hire a head scout. They have gotten no good euro talents and every signle draft they got there was a much much better player and they drafted guys in the lotto and first round who might not be in the league next year.
First, welcome!
From everything I've heard, MJ is bringing in James Worthy in the off-season to be assistant GM, though I'm not sure how much of that is a glorified ambassador.
Also, we do have a head scout, Scott Howard, and a head Euro scout, Rich Sheubrooks. Most of the scouts worked with Rod in Golden State. We only drafted Lexy because LB was running that show, not Rod and MJ. MJ seems to like US guys, looking back at his Washington drafts too. While this is narrow minded, he's really not that bad a drafter outside of AmMo, and the scouting here got us some solid players via pretty much everything we've done since Rod came.
Dexmor
03-16-2010, 08:17 PM
First, welcome!
From everything I've heard, MJ is bringing in James Worthy in the off-season to be assistant GM, though I'm not sure how much of that is a glorified ambassador.
Also, we do have a head scout, Scott Howard, and a head Euro scout, Rich Sheubrooks. Most of the scouts worked with Rod in Golden State. We only drafted Lexy because LB was running that show, not Rod and MJ. MJ seems to like US guys, looking back at his Washington drafts too. While this is narrow minded, he's really not that bad a drafter outside of AmMo, and the scouting here got us some solid players via pretty much everything we've done since Rod came.
--------------------------------------
Thank you for the welcome. I have actually been posting on boards since 01-02.
I would assume Worthy would do what Jordan did and Rod would still be the main gm in charge or president and Worthy the assistant gm
As for our scouts and drafts not being that bad, I have to respectfully say are you nuts?
I won't count Kwame Brown because it wasn't for Charlotte but let's take a look see
1.MekOak-Not terrible but not the best pick (Iggy would of been)
2.Raymond Felton-Granger-Bynum would have been right but I got no problem with it
3.Sean May-Horrible pick
4.Brandon Wirght-Traded for JRich so it was good
5.Jared Dudley-At 23 you can't expect a star so it's o.k.
6.Adam Morrison-Picked at 3 and won't even be in the league next year
7.D.J.-Normally I would say o.k. 9th pick potential start so o.k. but with Brook Lopez this is as bad as Morrison. If we had Brook-Diaw-Wallace-Jackson-Felton then we would be a finals possibility this yeyar.
8.Gerald Henderson-There were alot better players on the board but we had no idea we would get Jackson and Hughes so this is a ? mark. If he started he might of been a 12 points 2 steals D specialist.
9.Derrick Brown-Was a steal but im pretty sure they still didn't crack the best player left yet with him cause I believe Chase was there and when Blair was on the board still after 35 they should have made a trade
10.Lexi-This was just insane. I mean insane. LB said he wanted a C and pg yet he passed on Lopez for a 5'10 pg and traded for Lexi. They should of traded for Chalmbers or picked. If they were hung up on D.J. then they should of made he Pacers pick 2 more down and of gotten Hibbert.
I count Ray-Brown-Hendo-Mek-Dudley being not terrible (D.J. isn't on list cause Lopez is a clear cut franchise big mocked as high as 2)
That does not make up for passing on Lopez drafting a guy at 3 who isn't an nba talent, trading for Lexi and all the other terrible picks.
I figured they had scouts but either they suck or MJ isn't listening to them. What kills me about the Morrison draft is he was gonna get Rudy Gay but backed out at the last minute.
What gets me the most though is not the Morrison draft because Morrison became Radman who became Jackson but the Lopez draft. Brook Lopez is going to be the 2nd best C in the league.
I have always critized the FO more then anybody but I will say if they resign the big 3 out of the free agents Tyrus-Ray-Larry then the fact that in 1 year they got Jackson-Hughes-Tyrus-Theo-Tyson all in the season then I would say I would rather have Higgins then West and Mitch.
Most underrated GM is Sam Presti but this year we should get gm of the year.
Toocool
03-16-2010, 09:30 PM
You have to take into consideration, when Oaky was in college, he dominated. There was really no one he couldn't push around. Iggy was still quite raw back then, while Oak was pretty solid. I can't say that it wasn't a good pick.
Sean May was a horrible pick, but you need to take into account how they were back then. Sean May pre-injuries + fattening up on krispy kremes and FHBs, he was decent in college. Bobcats thought draft 2 tarheels and keep chemistry.
Adam Morrison was a decent pick back then. He did star at Gonzales (sp?) and no one could of seen him as a bust.
DJ, we should have gone to Lopez instead. But DJ was a great player in college
Hendo was drafted because we had a deficiency in SGs. He was extremely solid defensively which would fit easily into LB's system (being a Dukie and knowing the goals of team defense)
UPS i have no gripes at all about him. Slightly undersized, but he could be a great 3/4 player.
Lexi pick confounded a lot of us. But from what I gather, LB has plans to make Lexi into a serviceable PF/C. I have disliked how much of a "bust" Lexi has been but recently he's turned it around (by dominating D-leaguers) and packing on the kilos. For me he's still a WIP.
On a side note, Welcome :)
1.MekOak-Not terrible but not the best pick (Iggy would of been)
2.Raymond Felton-Granger-Bynum would have been right but I got no problem with it
3.Sean May-Horrible pick
4.Brandon Wirght-Traded for JRich so it was good
5.Jared Dudley-At 23 you can't expect a star so it's o.k.
6.Adam Morrison-Picked at 3 and won't even be in the league next year
7.D.J.-Normally I would say o.k. 9th pick potential start so o.k. but with Brook Lopez this is as bad as Morrison. If we had Brook-Diaw-Wallace-Jackson-Felton then we would be a finals possibility this yeyar.
8.Gerald Henderson-There were alot better players on the board but we had no idea we would get Jackson and Hughes so this is a ? mark. If he started he might of been a 12 points 2 steals D specialist.
9.Derrick Brown-Was a steal but im pretty sure they still didn't crack the best player left yet with him cause I believe Chase was there and when Blair was on the board still after 35 they should have made a trade
10.Lexi-This was just insane. I mean insane. LB said he wanted a C and pg yet he passed on Lopez for a 5'10 pg and traded for Lexi. They should of traded for Chalmbers or picked. If they were hung up on D.J. then they should of made he Pacers pick 2 more down and of gotten Hibbert.
I count Ray-Brown-Hendo-Mek-Dudley being not terrible (D.J. isn't on list cause Lopez is a clear cut franchise big mocked as high as 2)
That does not make up for passing on Lopez drafting a guy at 3 who isn't an nba talent, trading for Lexi and all the other terrible picks.
I think you're confusing my remarks about the current FO with the entire history of the franchise.
Mek was the pick to start, no question. The team needed a solid, consistent player and unless the Magic had passed on Howard we were going Okafor. He's smart and clean. And Iggy is in the same boat now as Mek - overpaid albatross contract on a lottery team. Ray was a good pick there, and May, while not the best pick by any means, was on his way to being a good player before he got fat. And that's all pre MJ.
MJ drafted AmMo I think for the pub since Roy didn't want to come, and that was his mistake. You look at his second rounder (if you say he drafted ammo, he drafted Twiggy too), Hollins is the starter for the T-Wolves, and he was the 59th pick I think. That's unheard of. I'm not going into BWright since Nellie wanted him and we got Jrich out of it. Dude was a great draft and that's all Higgins/scouts IMO. DJ and Lexy were both Larry's demands, not what MJ wanted. MJ promised Brook he would draft him, then LB said "I want DJ." Can't blame MJ for listening to a HOF coach. Same deal on Lexy. Henderson is still an unknown but he was drafted as a defensive specialist and that's what I've seen so far, he's not that bad either. And UPS is a great pick, they didn't need Budinger with Hendo, and Blair has knee questions. And this seems more like a Rod/MJ draft than an LB draft.
I don't see why you're so hard on MJ, Rod, and the scouts? It's either Bickerstaff or LB...
BigMike
03-17-2010, 08:40 AM
Picking apart draft picks is like making fun of a guys lotto numbers. You do the best you can to limit your exposure to loss but in the end a few years of NCAA does not translate into NBA ability so you never know what you are going to get.
spectre
03-17-2010, 08:48 AM
I'm in the camp that we've pretty much went the wrong direction draft wise since our inception...but since it's in the past I don't care to dwell on it. I do think that from the rumors we've had MJ could make the right selections if he just went with his gut vs his advisors...but until that happens we'll never know. Since we're without for the short stretch that might take a while.
We've had some decent luck with the later picks...they do deserve some credit for that.
Dex you've had some good posts in this thread. I particularly liked your opinion on the teams that could rise (Nets) and fall.
Good job!
mj4life
03-17-2010, 12:06 PM
When you look at drafts you also have look at fo thinking at that time (04) emeka was pretty much the best choice we had to try to build around and he has been exactly what he was billed as.(05)ray was best point avaliable and may played well when he was healthy although they could have drafted a better player(06) Morrison was looked at to be the scorer we needed but is obvious now that was a terrible pick (08) lopez would look good in cats uni right now but he and okafor could not play together because neither has the quckiness to guard 4's so they took a point seeing that raymond had not progressed the way they thought he would(09) henderson was the pick but terrance williams is who they really wanted they also considered the pitt player whose name escapes me now but were concerned about his knees not a bad idea considering may's weight and knee issues over the years
jdsingar
03-17-2010, 01:57 PM
they really wanted they also considered the pitt player whose name escapes me now but were concerned about his knees not a bad idea considering may's weight and knee issues over the years
The Pitt player would be DeJuan Blair. He's a candidate for the All-Rookie First Team after being picked in the 2nd round by the Spurs. The problem with his knees is that he doesn't have ACLs in either of them, which makes him a huge question mark in terms of longevity.
I don't have a huge problem with the Bobcats drafting. Morrison was a bit questionable, but I was excited about the pick. The Brook Lopez thing just pisses me off though. Mock Drafts are showing him going as high as #3 and it was clear that he had some skill. You don't pass on a big man with that much talent, especially with the #9 pick. About half the PGs in the league have decent long range shooting ability, but how often do quality centers come around?
There have been "degrees" with all our first round picks...and many look bad when viewed 20-20...but most (arguably) were justified at the time except Lopez...that was glaring even at the time of the draft...
mrtarheel
03-17-2010, 11:00 PM
If he could resign Hughes, Felton, Theo and Tyrus that would be great. Maybe trade Dj in the offseason with Nazr to Sac. Free up some cap space and bring in Travis Outlaw to back up Crash and his old running mate Blake.
Felts, Blake,
Jax, Hughes, Hendo
Crash, Outlaw, UPS
Diaw, Tyrus, Ajinca
Chandler, Theo, Diop
That's a killer lineup and 2nd unit
Marvel
03-18-2010, 03:37 AM
...but how often do quality centers come around?
Not often at all, which is why we suck at drafting.I don't buy into the whole "Okafor would never work with Lopez" thing either.The FO would have eventually traded Okafor anyway,for a pf.
mj4life
03-18-2010, 10:03 AM
Not often at all, which is why we suck at drafting.I don't buy into the whole "Okafor would never work with Lopez" thing either.The FO would have eventually traded Okafor anyway,for a pf.
At the time lopez was on our radar the cats had already made the decision to resign okafor which they already knew his laterl quickness would not allow him to play the 4 that is why although the cats where a small team you they never played nazr and oak together because neither could guard the bosh's and dirk's of the league. The hope was that LB could coach up okafor to become more than average. Over time LB came to see that okafor did not fit into his concept of team which led him to say that "Okafor gets an A in YOGA but we need him to get an A in BASKETBALL" LB even questioned his desire to be the best which is why we traded him for chandler and also the money considerations so to answer peoples question lopez and okafor could not have played to gether and at the time would have seemed foolish to draft lopez if you go ahead an sign okafor that insane contract
spectre
03-18-2010, 10:18 AM
I think it was that LB thought we needed a PG more as we only had one under contract. Obviously there was debate up til the selection (because we know the Bobcats informed Lopez we were going to take him) and LB won out.
We needed talent and we really weren't in a position to worry about guys fitting together.
mj4life
03-18-2010, 10:58 AM
I think it was that LB thought we needed a PG more as we only had one under contract. Obviously there was debate up til the selection (because we know the Bobcats informed Lopez we were going to take him) and LB won out.
We needed talent and we really weren't in a position to worry about guys fitting together.
i agree with you my point is that the FO was thinking otherwise i also agree that LB convinced MJ to take Augustin. LB and MJ I hope in the future can find that happy medium on drafts to make better choices as they have with trades because their trades have been on the money. Just food for thought we also passed on Roy Hibbert who also would look good in a cats uni right now
spectre
03-18-2010, 11:19 AM
As many have mentioned lots of teams passed on Lopez so I don't think it was a sure thing he'd play as well as he has. We needed a PG, so I can live with the choice. 20/20 hindsight kicks our ass, but the same can be said for a lot of our picks.
I think Hibbert was our target with that 20th pick all along...he just got taken before our selection.
He looked pretty darn good the other night.
BTW polarcat I'm not arguing with ya...just throwing stuff into the discussion.
I think that LB viewed Boris as a true post scoring threat so the need for Lopez was negated Vs the need for a back up PG.
Problem is is that Boris is yet to be convinced or morph into the player he really could be. And he REALLY could be that player. If he was that player, it would make passing on Lopez a no brainer IMO.
I agree with Spectre. I don't doubt that Hibbert was the target at #20.
In saying all that, what about the forgotten one? What if Lexy comes around? It would appear he has all the tools of TC (shot blocking, rebounding, size, athletic ability etc) but has the added advantage of an offensive game.
If Tyrus is a part of our future I could think of a worse way to start than with two guys in their early 20's with huge upside and pretty unique skill sets.
Especially two that compliment each other well so well at the 4 and 5 spots?
DJ - UPS - T2 - Lexy
There is some hope there.
(left Hendo out because I have been so dissapointed with him this season)
ALong13
03-18-2010, 12:13 PM
I think Stevie Graham, Raymond Felton, and Tyrus Thomas must be re-signed. I wouldn't mind trading Nazr for a draft pick as well to unload salary, somehow get rid of Diop, maybe bring back Ratliff at a min. contract for a year and have Chandler on board as well. Chandler will be a FA after next year as well, he's finally being useful, but he's the younger of the two. Really wish we could buy out Diop though
spectre
03-18-2010, 12:59 PM
In saying all that, what about the forgotten one? What if Lexy comes around? It would appear he has all the tools of TC (shot blocking, rebounding, size, athletic ability etc) but has the added advantage of an offensive game.
If Tyrus is a part of our future I could think of a worse way to start than with two guys in their early 20's with huge upside and pretty unique skill sets.
Especially two that compliment each other well so well at the 4 and 5 spots?
DJ - UPS - T2 - Lexy
There is some hope there.
(left Hendo out because I have been so dissapointed with him this season)
Jinx's biggest problem with developing into that player for us is LB's impatience. Maybe he'll prove me wrong (he's held onto him longer than I thought he would already), but you know LB.
spectre
03-18-2010, 01:02 PM
I think Stevie Graham, Raymond Felton, and Tyrus Thomas must be re-signed. I wouldn't mind trading Nazr for a draft pick as well to unload salary, somehow get rid of Diop, maybe bring back Ratliff at a min. contract for a year and have Chandler on board as well. Chandler will be a FA after next year as well, he's finally being useful, but he's the younger of the two. Really wish we could buy out Diop though
Look at us developing assets! Not what we really had in mind (draftees), but that LLE signing in Flip helped to get TT and hopefully Hulk JR can continue what he's started and become asset as well.
Bobcats turning free stuff into things that have value...who'd have thunk it!
polarcat
03-18-2010, 01:05 PM
Look at us developing assets! Not what we really had in mind (draftees), but that LLE signing in Flip helped to get TT and hopefully Hulk JR can continue what he's started and become asset as well.
Bobcats turning free stuff into things that have value...who'd have thunk it!
Sometimes shopping in the bargain aisle (Flip, Graham, TT - doghouse in Chi) can prove to be more beneficial than hitting the overpriced malls and 5th Avenue (top 10 picks, big time FA's). Are we the new trendsetters in the NBA?? :g:
BigMike
03-18-2010, 01:07 PM
NOT signing Theo to a vet contract would be a travesty. He has been playing lights out for us, i dont think he would make an 82 game march as a starter but keeping him as a 2nd C, making sure the 1st C (TC?) knows he has a guy with SKILLS behind him!
spectre
03-18-2010, 01:26 PM
I think for at least next season we're going to need a couple vet min guys due to being so close to the LT. Plus if we retain Theo the "hit" on the court won't be as bad when we dump a C for salary relief later in the year. I think it's a no brainer too.
Course I felt we'd definitely re-sign Juwan Howard too...so what do I know.
Jinx's biggest problem with developing into that player for us is LB's impatience. Maybe he'll prove me wrong (he's held onto him longer than I thought he would already), but you know LB.
I would have thought it was his questionable work ethic.
IMO the biggest obstacle to Theo returning next year is the amount of money we have tied up with centers already...I'd like to see him return but someone has to be shipped out for that to happen...
110oldeast
03-18-2010, 04:42 PM
There was nothing bad about the Felton pick despite folks holding on to this to reiterate our poor drafting history.
We needed a pg of the future with BK's age and being a career backup, and we still could have gotten Granger with the pick we used to get May (this was my hope at the time and saw May as picked in part for PR). If anything, Felton's penalized b/c of what May didn't do vs. anything else. If you get Granger in that draft, obviously a lot changes, but you get 2 starting quality players out of that draft.
No if we are gonna draft we need to hire Higgens help even with MJ there. I don't say Brown because I know he is temp no matter what.
I used to say get a new fo but with the trades Higgens has made I want him as the gm espially if he has Jordan's ear.
If they don't get an assistant or a new head scout they need to trade there picks but the problem is you can get a good player for cheap in the draft and steals but if you don't dradt you can't get the steals.
They need to hire a head scout. They have gotten no good euro talents and every signle draft they got there was a much much better player and they drafted guys in the lotto and first round who might not be in the league next year.
Terrible drafts
Morrison
May
Alexa
D.J.-Only cause of Brook being there
Bad but understanable
Mek-should of gotten Iggy
Felton-I thought Granger was gonna be a steal but with his injury a concern then I would have taken Felton to so I don't mind this
Henderson-So many better players but honestly I didn't know Lawson would be that good or Gibson or Thorton or Collison
Good Draft
Derrick Brown
I would have thought it was his questionable work ethic.
This. Larry slammed Lexy over the summer for not working hard in France.
Also, speaking of work ethic, last night on NBA tv Eric Snow (an LB PG) and Kenny Smith were talking about the Nets, and they said no one on that team was putting forth effort. They repeatedly said effort came first, and since Lopez is supposed to be a leader there, it makes you wonder a little bit if LB had questions about him?
spectre
03-18-2010, 06:39 PM
I would have thought it was his questionable work ethic.
Then he's probably doomed and won't be a part of our future.
LB is pretty good at culling dead wood.
Powered by vBulletin™ Version 4.0.6 Copyright © 2013 vBulletin Solutions, Inc. All rights reserved.