Tyson for Mek was a great trade for us

[Dexmor]

Not because Tyson Chandler is good because how that guy can't score at 7'3 and athletism of sf pisses me off and he is as soft as tissue paper and I hope they are able to give away his contract to the Kings but Mek isn't a team player and is a bad locker room guy (I don't mean he takes to many shots or is a trouble maker) but he is almost as offfensively challenged as Tyson Chandler and he isn't even blocking shots like he used to, he is undersized at the 5.
I would have traded Mek for a 2nd round pick with his contract.
He is only averaging 10 points and 9 rebounds. He gets paid like 15 million a year for 10 and 9.
If we still had Mek it would be very hard to resign our free agents. Now with Mek gone and Tyson soon to be gone either trade or letting him expire then now we can reasonably resign our free agents. Maybe not all 5 because Theo might wanna go to a contender and Graham might get a bloated offer to lock down the Kobe's (with Hughes and Hendo there they don't need to pay him more then 2 million) by the Mavs or somebody or the Hawks if they lose JJ but they can resign Tyrus Thomas (who alone is better then Mek) Ray and Hughes all for the same amount.

Lets say they sign for this much (estimate)

Tyrus-6 million
Ray-6 million
Hughes 3 million

That is the same amount it would cost to pay Mek about and you would get 3 players and 2 of them are much better then Mek plus Larry Hughes who's not to bad.

[ND22]

Its pretty much been said by everyone in the organization that the trade was strictly done for financial reasons, if Tyson happened to step up when he got here that would be an added bonus. I had no problem with the trade and I think long term we'll be better off without Mek.

[polarcat]

nd summed it up. dex, chandler is not 7'3" and though he is mobile, small forward, he does not remind me of. he has hands of stone, no moves, and is one-dimensional with the pick and roll/flush as his only asset. he is a fouling machine that reminds me of a rookie or college player with his lack of understanding fundamental basketball in this aspect. i am glad we are rid of mek and will be equally as glad when tyson comes off the books.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkm9YuBBzho

:vomit:

[bobcatniners09]

Niether Mek nor Tyson is tough inside. Mek should be a 4 and Tyson might be the softest player in the NBA. Can't wait till we get rid of him. Nazr should be getting the bulk of the minutes. Diop also needs to go.

[polarcat]

Niether Mek nor Tyson is tough inside. Mek should be a 4 and Diaw might be the softest player in the NBA.

I fixed it for ya.....haha.

[CatNation]

1. it is not necessary to post every Bobcats related thought that comes to your head

2. please don't post the same topics here and at RealGM most people read both and its just annoying to see everything twice

[Toocool]

I fixed it for ya.....haha.

Quoted for truth.


While we're at it, I agree with CN. It's nice that you're contributing to the forums and all that, but most of this discussion has already passed through (ages ago). While we're not RGM, and I don't know how things at RGM are done (forgive my ignorance) but we've been through the TC/Mek discussion when the trade was made. We knew it was purely financial since Mek had a huge fat contract that will now stunt Hornets growth, and TC will take the PO next season before coming off the books.

[Dexmor]

Yeah Im sure you did talk about it but A. I wasn't here for that. B. You talked about when Mek was just given away and was a pretty good player.
It's relevent now because Mek has been sucking this year and more as of late.
It's been in the news on hoopshype.com and realgm.com that he is having such a terrible year. It's his worst year of his career.

As for posting a thread here and one on realgm.com why would you care if it's there to?

I posted it on both because sometimes one of the boards have no traffic and are dead and you don't always know if your gonna get a responce so I posted on both boards.
Why would that be an issue?

I don't get if somebody doesn't like a topic, why not just don't bother with it. And why would anybody have a problem with topics espially since there are exactly alot right now.

[Dexmor]

Anyway back to the actual topic I know Chandler isn't a sf I was just basically saying he isn't a stiff he is limble and fast and should be able to score alot.
Also he is 7'2. That is real. Not 7'3 but is 7'2.

[BRNC]

Anyway back to the actual topic I know Chandler isn't a sf I was just basically saying he isn't a stiff he is limble and fast and should be able to score alot.
Also he is 7'2. That is real. Not 7'3 but is 7'2.

...actually the official Bobcats site list TC as 7'1"...

[Dexmor]

You should know better about those listings. They measure them coming in the draft and change it alot of the time if you notice it never matches the predraft mes and if they grow they don't change it.
KG is listed at 6'11. You don't really believe that do you? Did you believe Barkley was 6'7 when he was 6'5

[BRNC]

Well...where did you get 7'3"....then 7'2"...I simply pointed out that the Bobcats site has him listed as 7'1"...if this is a real problem for you then contact the Bobcats site...

[teej]

Couple things:

1) There's nothing wrong with posting the same thing here and at RGM, at least from BCP's view. There are a lot of members here who aren't members there. But, starting 5 or 6 threads in one day that are just opinions is probably a little much. If you've got all this on your mind, try making a mega post and see how that works.

2) Tyson has been playing a lot better lately, and the fact that we were even in that game Saturday was mostly because of his defense. If we won, he would have been the reason.

3) He's listed at 7'1, but Lexy is listed at 7'0 and is taller in every picture. KG is 6'11 but he's much taller than Nazr, who's 6'10 (I remember from their argument that KG looked way down at Naz). Listed heights are close to worthless.

4) Mek will probably keep NoLa in the lottery until his contract is over.

[SWedd523]

OT but I remember Kevin Garnett making sure he's listed at 6'11 because earlier in his career everyone wanted him to be a Center but he wanted to be a PF so he made sure he avoided the "all 7 footers are Centers" rule by being listed at 6'11 even though he's at least a few inches taller. And, unless I misremember, he actually got pretty pissed at yelled at one guy who called him out on it.

Players will have their official height listings flubbed up for their own, or their teams' reasons. DJ is one obvious example

[BRNC]

^...and unless you have a specific reason (Garnett and DJ being very good examples) I would think it beyond strange that a teams "official" site would list a guy as 7'1" that is really 7'2" or 7"3"...and most of us do indeed "know" that heights are not always listed correctly...but when talking about someones height I like to have the discussion based from a "real" number and the official site (for any team/player) is where I grab that number...

[Robertpel9]

Fellas, give the OP a break - It's a forum as long as he is civil he can post whatever he wants to post and no one forces you to read it. I don't know who he is but let's relax a little - the more people we have on here the better. Let's not turn this place into a big Clique

I am glad Mek is gone as i know it is best intermediate and long term. I'll be happier when Tyson is gone as outside of the occasional Defense we get out of him he is effectively useless.

We are a playoff team now. Our problem is that we have two guys who while i respect them a lot (SJAX and GW) we rely on as true stars and neither one is. Jordan said a lot in his press conference, i truly believe he realizes this and don't be surprised if he does not see either one of them or both as being expendable if he can bring a true all start talent in here. Felton is a very solid starting PG and we need to keep him. TT is a great guy to grow and develop, if he could improve his shooting he could be an all start overnight. Outside of that we are a team of role players. Like the pistons of years past we are not quite at their level but we are good enough to be maybe a 2nd round playoff team. We will never come close to reaching the promised land until we have a legitimate superstar surrounded by the same quality of cast we have now.

For instance swap of Dwayne Wade for Jackson or Wallace and then we are ready to make some noise

[Dexmor]

I was with ya until you said trade Wade. Nobody is giving us Wade. I wouldn't be surprised if they had a shot to get a real go to guy and they took it but until that opp happens they need to resign Tyrus and Felton and have good role players like Larry Hughes.

[Dexmor]

Couple things:

1) There's nothing wrong with posting the same thing here and at RGM, at least from BCP's view. There are a lot of members here who aren't members there. But, starting 5 or 6 threads in one day that are just opinions is probably a little much. If you've got all this on your mind, try making a mega post and see how that works.

2) Tyson has been playing a lot better lately, and the fact that we were even in that game Saturday was mostly because of his defense. If we won, he would have been the reason.

3) He's listed at 7'1, but Lexy is listed at 7'0 and is taller in every picture. KG is 6'11 but he's much taller than Nazr, who's 6'10 (I remember from their argument that KG looked way down at Naz). Listed heights are close to worthless.

4) Mek will probably keep NoLa in the lottery until his contract is over.




Half the threads are gonna be opinions unless you just want to post artlicles and basically post news which there really is none.
And what would be wrong with making 5 threads in one day? (It wasn't even close to that anyway, I have made maybe 5-8 total since I got here)
Why would you care about alot of topics and threads to be up to talk about in? Isn't that what the forums are for? Isn't that a good thing?
It seems to me like if there is a forum that doesn't have a ton of traffic or topics the more things to talk about the better. Maybe Im just screwed in the head idk.

[teej]

Half the threads are gonna be opinions unless you just want to post artlicles and basically post news which there really is none.
And what would be wrong with making 5 threads in one day? (It wasn't even close to that anyway, I have made maybe 5-8 total since I got here)
Why would you care about alot of topics and threads to be up to talk about in? Isn't that what the forums are for? Isn't that a good thing?
It seems to me like if there is a forum that doesn't have a ton of traffic or topics the more things to talk about the better. Maybe Im just screwed in the head idk.

Dex, man, I know you're new, but try to check this out for a second:

Yesterday, you started 7 threads. I merged 4 of them into one post because three were just posts by you mainly talking about the same thing.

Outside of your posts, all but one or maybe two threads on the first page are posts started from news articles or from recent games to generate discussion about the topic. I.E. "Which Bobcat would you want shooting a last second shot" comes from a poll on Bobcats.com, The MJ discussion came from the news that he had been approved, an existing thread already discussing TJ Ford came from one of Rick Bonnell's posts, one about Theo Ratliff from a Fanhouse article. Am I making sense?

At BCP, traffic isn't the main goal, if that helps. Quality over quantity.

And Dex, if I'm being the bad guy, believe me I don't want to be, I just don't want people to be unhappy, and apparently some people aren't happy.

[Dexmor]

I could see some of the realgm.com guys getting mad because if you make just 1 thread a day they look at it as making a thread every single day like that's crazy and flooding the board. They are like Nazi's over there. They need to get over it. It's not like that anywhere else.
I go to Espn and here and never at espn has anybody ever been mad at people making threads. It's just insane.
Not all the realgm.com guys are so uptight but alot are.

[Dexmor]

^...and unless you have a specific reason (Garnett and DJ being very good examples) I would think it beyond strange that a teams "official" site would list a guy as 7'1" that is really 7'2" or 7"3"...and most of us do indeed "know" that heights are not always listed correctly...but when talking about someones height I like to have the discussion based from a "real" number and the official site (for any team/player) is where I grab that number...



I don't know how it's not possible to know this by now but almost none of the listings are correct. They usually take what your listed at with shoes and then round up and add an inch.
If you don't believe me just go to draftexpress.com predraft measurements and then look at the players listings and then look at what the nba "official" listings are. They aren't right.

You know Kobe Bryant is listed at 6'7 in some places. He even said on Leno he doesn't know why they do that because he is 6'5.
This is really basic stuff the average fan should know.
Barkley said in his book that he was 6'5 and 1/4 inch. He was listed at 6'7.

[BRNC]

This really is not a quibble for me and I'm not sure what point you're trying to make...my point is I'd prefer not to pull numbers out of my a$$ and say that my guess is correct because my guess is correct...if I'm going to discuss the "height" of a player then I'd prefer to work (in discussion) with other talking the same height...not my guess...

[Dexmor]

It's commen sense Tyson Chandler is taller then 7 feet. Just look at him. As for KG people laugh about it and it's well known that he is 7'1. He himself says im not 7'1 I am 6'13.
This is just basketball 101.

[spectre]

Chandler gives a glimpse of his impact vs. Heat (http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/03/22/1331009/chandler-gives-a-glimpse-of-his.html)


"Just the way he moved, the way he acted, getting from point A to point B," Hanners said of the assertiveness Chandler displayed in Miami. "It's getting out on pick-and-rolls and then getting back to his man so that nobody had to help anybody else.

"That's so big in the NBA. If I jump out to stop the ball on a pick-and-roll, and I'm a big guy, if I don't get back to my man, somebody else has to take him. And then I have to find somebody else to (guard). By the time you get to their last guy, he already has an open jump shot."


Totally agree.

[Slam]

Half the threads are gonna be opinions unless you just want to post artlicles and basically post news which there really is none.
And what would be wrong with making 5 threads in one day? (It wasn't even close to that anyway, I have made maybe 5-8 total since I got here)
Why would you care about alot of topics and threads to be up to talk about in? Isn't that what the forums are for? Isn't that a good thing?
It seems to me like if there is a forum that doesn't have a ton of traffic or topics the more things to talk about the better. Maybe Im just screwed in the head idk.
Stick with it Dex. We appreciate reading your threads and posts here.

Keep up the good work.

[spectre]

Fred in New Orleans LA:
I am dismayed at the Hornets lack of interior defense, and Okafor's defensive play seems mediocre at best. Is there hope with the current personnel?

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Bill Ingram:

Now you know why Larry Brown chose Chandler over Okafor, even though Okafor is young and healthy and Chandler breaks down every other game. A lot of things get better when CP3 and his defense get healthy, but you're right - the Hornets have some issues.


Read more NBA news and Insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/chat.asp?chat_topics_id=850&status=Inactive#ixzz0j26f3xIn

[Dexmor]

LB didn't choose Chandler over Mek. He seemed upset.

[teej]

LB didn't choose Chandler over Mek. He seemed upset.

:confused:

LB was sick of Okafor and was really happy when he got Chandler.

He's been upset with TC during the season, but he liked the trade.