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BobCatsFanInTx
04-21-2010, 10:22 PM
You know guys that I can be rather pessimistic but I found hope in both our losses to the Magic. We came out flat and did not play up to our game plan yet when our guys settled down and played within themselves they showed they were not as bad as the early routes they were looking at.
I think these games would be competitive if our guys just settled down and played a complete game. I know our Bobcats are a seventh seed but they are a much better match up to Orlando than what we have witnessed. When we talk about our Bobcats lack of talent to the Magic I think we sell them short and that is just not right. We have seen the best of our Bobcats and they do have talent. Maybe not statistical talent but we have smart guys who are not slouches.
We have all seen the best of our Cats and when they do show up and focus they can compete with any team. Remember that some of the players we have came late in the season and that there is still a bit of feeling one another out. Not making excuses but telling it like it is.
When our Bobcats come home they will be ready to perform for the home crowd. They will feel more comfortable and the butterflies will be much less. Our Bobcats have one of the best home records in the NBA and one of the worst road records. Why should that not hold true to form? Our guys have shown to be class acts and in no way are they going down without a fight. The heart of the Bobcats can not be denied. They showed that by getting pummeled by Orlando and yet having the resolve to fight back. I expect being at home is just the tonic our Bobcats need.
Can I say without a doubt that our Bobcats won't get swept? No, and none of us can. That said I will go out on a limb and say that they will not go down without making it interesting. Expect our guys to be much more competitive because I will.
We know the kind of guys we have on our Bobcats and all of them have been solid human beings and a team we all can be proud of. No matter what happens, I am glad to be a Bobcats fan. Our guys gave us a great year and no Troll is going to come on our board and ruin our good karma.
To our Bobcats should they come to our forum.
Thanks guys for all you have done and for all the great entertainment you brought us. Thanks for our first playoff birth.
To all on BCP thanks for sharing with me this great ride. The season is not over but thanks are in order none the less.
To the Trolls. You can not harsh our mellow. We are proud of our guys and make no apologies for believing they could win. It is called being a fan.
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-21-2010, 10:28 PM
My goal is not to "harsh your mellow." I respect that you guys are fans and I think that's great. I came on here for some good-natured smack talk and cannot believe how quickly you (collectively) got your panties in a bunch. There's nothing wrong with believing in your team, just as there's nothing wrong with wanting a little back-and-forth about which squad is superior.
That said, your team tonight was flat-out awful. I don't feel like my Magic played particularly well and we kept you at arms' length throughout the game. It is clear that you are barely a playoff team and we are the defending conference champs. You are doing a great job of limiting Dwight, but Capt. Jack said it best...we were more aggressive tonight and it showed.
Best of luck in the next two games...I can see you taking one of them and I kinda hope you do so we can clinch in game 5 on our home court. Then again, it would be rather sweet to sweep you. We'll see how that shakes out.
GoBobs
04-21-2010, 11:03 PM
Our problem all year has been scoring slumps. It looks a lot worse when we play teams that play good defense. If you look at any good offense in the league they are aggressive all the time. Our problem is 90% mental, we play not to lose rather then to win. LB needs to say to the team "don't worry about the turnovers guys be aggressive and put the ball in the hole."
We are still very much in the series. We just need to take care of business at home find ourselves and grab the big Mo in the process.
Dr. Blotter
04-21-2010, 11:34 PM
I still have hope for this team. I have definite belief that we can take 2 games at home. What I think is that maybe after those 2 games at home, we can go back to Orlando and maybe have some confidence restored to this Bobcat team. Although I cannot say for sure that we will not get swept, I just think it is not in the nature of the Bobcats to lay down and let Orlando win 4 in a row, especially with 2 on our home court. All I can really say is Go Cats, and LB better get these guys motivated and also, these guys need to get themselves motivated, I feel like there is doubt within some of these players that we can really play against the Magic.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-22-2010, 12:01 AM
My goal is not to "harsh your mellow." I respect that you guys are fans and I think that's great. I came on here for some good-natured smack talk and cannot believe how quickly you (collectively) got your panties in a bunch. There's nothing wrong with believing in your team, just as there's nothing wrong with wanting a little back-and-forth about which squad is superior.
That said, your team tonight was flat-out awful. I don't feel like my Magic played particularly well and we kept you at arms' length throughout the game. It is clear that you are barely a playoff team and we are the defending conference champs. You are doing a great job of limiting Dwight, but Capt. Jack said it best...we were more aggressive tonight and it showed.
Best of luck in the next two games...I can see you taking one of them and I kinda hope you do so we can clinch in game 5 on our home court. Then again, it would be rather sweet to sweep you. We'll see how that shakes out.You are funny BlueandWhiteIgnite in that you come to our board to talk up the Magic and degrade a seventh seed sixth year franchise that has never been here.
It is obvious the Magic this season is a better and more experienced group than our current Bobcats. There is no debate to be had there. Where the debate can be had is that our Bobcats have proven they can compete with some of the best teams in the NBA. Isn't it likely that our Bobcats are not on paper anywhere near what Orlando is? However there is something to be said with playing smart and intense basketball.
Our only chance to beat the superior Magic team is to hope the Magic slip and play beneath themselves. Playoffs can be unpredictable as a few eighth seed teams have proven in the past. It is not likely seventh or eighth seed teams advance past the first round but it can happen. Seeing the Bobcats win and compete against some top tier teams it is not that big a stretch to believe they could have an upset. All we need is for Orlando to be overconfident. Ask Dirk Nowitsky and some of the current Dallas Mavericks how that works.
As a Bobcats fan I'll take a first round victory regardless of the circumstances.
So I don't mind you talking smack on a Bobcats forum but remember it really means squat. Your team has experienced playoff success and our team is there for the first time. You look small talking trash and running down a young organization in the playoffs for the FIRST time in it's history.
You may want us to take the bait for some innocent banter but we really can not talk shit back being that this is new territory for us. If you want to have a friendly debate with some teams fans do it when your team advances to play teams that have been to this stage. Our Bobcats are learning as they go.
Yes some of our guys have been in the playoffs but not with this team and in these circumstances. Plus a few key players on our Bobcats have never been in the playoffs. They are young and learning. No matter what the experienced players have to tell them.
CatNation
04-22-2010, 12:24 AM
God I wish there was a way to get Chris Paul here. He would solve all our offensive problems and we'd still be an elite D team. We'd be a top 3 east team easy.
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-22-2010, 06:57 AM
You are funny BlueandWhiteIgnite in that you come to our board to talk up the Magic and degrade a seventh seed sixth year franchise that has never been here.
It is obvious the Magic this season is a better and more experienced group than our current Bobcats. There is no debate to be had there. Where the debate can be had is that our Bobcats have proven they can compete with some of the best teams in the NBA. Isn't it likely that our Bobcats are not on paper anywhere near what Orlando is? However there is something to be said with playing smart and intense basketball.
Our only chance to beat the superior Magic team is to hope the Magic slip and play beneath themselves. Playoffs can be unpredictable as a few eighth seed teams have proven in the past. It is not likely seventh or eighth seed teams advance past the first round but it can happen. Seeing the Bobcats win and compete against some top tier teams it is not that big a stretch to believe they could have an upset. All we need is for Orlando to be overconfident. Ask Dirk Nowitsky and some of the current Dallas Mavericks how that works.
As a Bobcats fan I'll take a first round victory regardless of the circumstances.
So I don't mind you talking smack on a Bobcats forum but remember it really means squat. Your team has experienced playoff success and our team is there for the first time. You look small talking trash and running down a young organization in the playoffs for the FIRST time in it's history.
You may want us to take the bait for some innocent banter but we really can not talk shit back being that this is new territory for us. If you want to have a friendly debate with some teams fans do it when your team advances to play teams that have been to this stage. Our Bobcats are learning as they go.
Yes some of our guys have been in the playoffs but not with this team and in these circumstances. Plus a few key players on our Bobcats have never been in the playoffs. They are young and learning. No matter what the experienced players have to tell them.
Great stuff. I totally respect where you're coming from. I don't see the Magic overlooking you guys or succumbing to overconfidence as we learned our lesson with Philly last season. You guys are just a few pieces away from becoming an Eastern Conference powerhouse and I look forward to charting your progress in the years to come. Best wishes.
mj4life
04-22-2010, 10:00 AM
something i think that gets lost on alot of people is that the nba is a totally different animal than most other prof. sports. it is rare that a team in it's first post season together make a deep run. most of the time it's a gradual process over a couple of seasons, if we win the next two it changes the series but i still see us losing in 6. the magic are as good as advertised and they have spent the last couple of seasons fine tuning their roster and developing some players(redick) we will do the same over the next season or so and become more of a contender as we implement our style of ball(i think this is the way MJ wants his team to play whether LB is here or not)
mj4life
04-22-2010, 10:19 AM
and to add on my earlier post i will use the Magic during the howard era, in their first postseason appearance the got swept by the pistons the next year they beat toronto but lost in the second round again to the pistons and lost last year in the finals to the lakers
WhatAboutBob_cats
04-22-2010, 11:08 AM
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I'm keeping my faith in the Cats
Fred Williamson
04-22-2010, 12:23 PM
Do you know why we are not able to execute our gameplan? It's very simple: because we suck.
Our offense is so easy to predict and great defensive teams have no problems to adjust to us. Just seal up the zone and let our brick layers launch it from outside, or let guys like Diaw and Jax try to force things by driving to the hoop and as a result, they'll turn the ball over.
We are a great defensive team, but defense alone won't win you ball games. Our PG is offensively medicore at best, Jax is an ineffective high volume scorer, Wallace can't do anything besides dashing into people and get foul calls, Diaw is a pussy, and our centers have no offensive game at all. That's it.
I'm keeping hope alive, its tough, but I'm keeping hope alive. The NBA playoffs are a whole different breed of animal, there are no plays taken off, every possession is important, and momentum is crucial. It's frustrating to see us get manhandled by Orlando, but they are the superior team, and they have the playoff experience. Hopefully the fans come out rocking Saturday to help us get back in this series.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-22-2010, 04:02 PM
God I wish there was a way to get Chris Paul here. He would solve all our offensive problems and we'd still be an elite D team. We'd be a top 3 east team easy.Cat Felton is not our problem in these playoffs. CP3 is a great player but I don't buy that the pg position is our biggest weakness. We need consistency at the PF and C positions. TC has played better as of late but in the early stages of the season we were losing games because our C position was not one of strength. CP3 can make players better but how much better? I think a lot of our problems come from many different places and to put the blame on Felton because he had a few weak playoffs games is just flat out wrong.
Without Raymond we don't even make the playoffs. He, Jax and Crash held our team together. Those three guys gained chemistry and helped our Bobcats fight through some tough patches. So I refuse to throw any of those three under the bus.
CP3 is great and yes he was injured for a stretch this season but he was around enough to make his NO Hornets team better than last year and it did not happen. As it turns out Byron Scott WHO I LIKE AS A HEAD COACH, got made the scapegoat for the players short comings. The year before Byron was the hero. CP3 is not GOD in basketball sneakers and for that matter MJ.
Speaking of MJ, "The Greatest Of All Time," he could not win all those championships without so many talented players around him. Yes he may have nearly by himself taken a few weak Bulls teams to the dance but he sure as hell does not hoist the trophy without great teammates and a great head coach.
Our guys are YOUNG as an organization and there have been a lot of changes since coach Brown took command. If you want to talk about get CP3 and the such than give our current lineup a full off season and at least half a season to see where they are at. If Felton is to be the Goat at that time so be it. As of now it is too early.
On a side note I am not sure our Cats are more than a 5 seed with CP3. Surely not the place most championship teams come from in the NBA.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-22-2010, 04:34 PM
Do you know why we are not able to execute our gameplan? It's very simple: because we suck.
Our offense is so easy to predict and great defensive teams have no problems to adjust to us. Just seal up the zone and let our brick layers launch it from outside, or let guys like Diaw and Jax try to force things by driving to the hoop and as a result, they'll turn the ball over.
We are a great defensive team, but defense alone won't win you ball games. Our PG is offensively medicore at best, Jax is an ineffective high volume scorer, Wallace can't do anything besides dashing into people and get foul calls, Diaw is a pussy, and our centers have no offensive game at all. That's it.We suck. Quit watching the playoffs. Also forget about how happy you were our Bobcats made the playoffs. I don't know what your expectations were but mine were realistic. OUR BOBCATS ARE A 7TH SEED PEOPLE!!!!
We have a TEAM in the playoffs for the first time. If you think nerves don't play a role in how things have started in those games you are sorely mistaken.
Hey Schnitzel, what is our Bobcats road record? What is their home record?
People need to take several chill pills and come back down to earth. What I witnessed in BOTH games was a team getting throttled who refused to give up and made things interesting late. A little too late to win is the only problem.
Have any of you watched the Bobcats THIS season? Our team is holding true to form. For much of the season they have showed up flat to start games. It just so happens they are laying an egg early against a very good battle tested Magic team. I have post where I warned against this happening.
No matter what, the sky is not falling and we will survive a first round sweep should that happen. 7 vs 2 match ups are rarely competitive. This is a learning season and I expect our guys to be hungry next season. I also expect our next two games to at least be competitive throughout most of the games. Should we get a win then for sure it will be great but no matter what happens our Bobcats will not roll over and quit. The first two games should attest to that.
The fact that we did not lose by 20+ makes me happy. I am glad that when up against it in a hostile environment our Bobcats never quit.
jdsingar
04-22-2010, 04:49 PM
I would agree there. Game 2 was very disappointing, but nothing surprising. Our squad plays terribly on the road and is inept on offense. We are playing the best defensive player in the game, one that completely nullifies any our only offensive strength of attacking the rim. Anyway, I think we will win one at home and that will be it. I wouldn't be surprised if we won every home game either, but that is unlikely.
We definitely need an offensive post presence though. An athletic PF/C with some post moves would be ideal. Of course, getting that talent is no easy task. We have no draft pick and no money.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-22-2010, 06:18 PM
I would agree there. Game 2 was very disappointing, but nothing surprising. Our squad plays terribly on the road and is inept on offense. We are playing the best defensive player in the game, one that completely nullifies any our only offensive strength of attacking the rim. Anyway, I think we will win one at home and that will be it. I wouldn't be surprised if we won every home game either, but that is unlikely.
We definitely need an offensive post presence though. An athletic PF/C with some post moves would be ideal. Of course, getting that talent is no easy task. We have no draft pick and no money.Back to the basket Centers and Power Forwards are rare these days. The teams that are lucky to have them should thank their lucky stars.
So, since we need a big man so badly, but only have 1 draft pick the next 3 years, how do we get one? Trading for one who's massivly overpaid?
WhatAboutBob_cats
04-23-2010, 12:05 AM
Looking at the lack of options, I would say trading an expiring contract next year or god-forbid sign up a D-leaguer
Fred Williamson
04-23-2010, 03:03 AM
We suck. Quit watching the playoffs. Also forget about how happy you were our Bobcats made the playoffs. I don't know what your expectations were but mine were realistic. OUR BOBCATS ARE A 7TH SEED PEOPLE!!!!
We have a TEAM in the playoffs for the first time. If you think nerves don't play a role in how things have started in those games you are sorely mistaken.
Hey Schnitzel, what is our Bobcats road record? What is their home record?
People need to take several chill pills and come back down to earth. What I witnessed in BOTH games was a team getting throttled who refused to give up and made things interesting late. A little too late to win is the only problem.
Have any of you watched the Bobcats THIS season? Our team is holding true to form. For much of the season they have showed up flat to start games. It just so happens they are laying an egg early against a very good battle tested Magic team. I have post where I warned against this happening.
No matter what, the sky is not falling and we will survive a first round sweep should that happen. 7 vs 2 match ups are rarely competitive. This is a learning season and I expect our guys to be hungry next season. I also expect our next two games to at least be competitive throughout most of the games. Should we get a win then for sure it will be great but no matter what happens our Bobcats will not roll over and quit. The first two games should attest to that.
The fact that we did not lose by 20+ makes me happy. I am glad that when up against it in a hostile environment our Bobcats never quit.
lol, chill buddy. I'm just being realistic. Yes, of course I'm proud of these guys and I love this team. My point is, we aren't talented enough to beat this Magic team, even though we fight and hustle till the end, at the end of the day, they have the advantage over the Bobcats.
So, since we need a big man so badly, but only have 1 draft pick the next 3 years, how do we get one? Trading for one who's massivly overpaid?
But hey, we have Tyrus Thomas who's as good as a mid lottery pick. :rolleyes:
Marvel
04-23-2010, 03:25 AM
Al Jefferson, David West,Mareese Speights,Serge Ibaka and even Glen Davis are some of my dream players i would love to pick up.
Marvel
04-23-2010, 03:28 AM
Do you know why we are not able to execute our gameplan? It's very simple: because we suck.
Our offense is so easy to predict and great defensive teams have no problems to adjust to us. Just seal up the zone and let our brick layers launch it from outside, or let guys like Diaw and Jax try to force things by driving to the hoop and as a result, they'll turn the ball over.
We are a great defensive team, but defense alone won't win you ball games. Our PG is offensively medicore at best, Jax is an ineffective high volume scorer, Wallace can't do anything besides dashing into people and get foul calls, Diaw is a pussy, and our centers have no offensive game at all. That's it.
LOL....reading your sig and your posts tell me there's a hint of irony being injected here.
Fred Williamson
04-23-2010, 03:56 AM
Al Jefferson, David West,Mareese Speights,Serge Ibaka and even Glen Davis are some of my dream players i would love to pick up.
except Speights and Davis, I would love to get one of them
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-23-2010, 05:33 AM
I have to say, it is rather hilarious how you guys were talking so much smack before this series began and now you're already looking at possible off-season moves to improve your team. It's as if you've given up hope. Hey, you're only down 2-0! Do you know how many times the Orlando Magic has given up a 2-0 lead in the playoffs and lost a series?
Oh yeah...ZERO. Sorry!
SWedd523
04-23-2010, 09:59 AM
I have to say, it is rather hilarious how you guys were talking so much smack before this series began and now you're already looking at possible off-season moves to improve your team. It's as if you've given up hope. Hey, you're only down 2-0! Do you know how many times the Orlando Magic has given up a 2-0 lead in the playoffs and lost a series?
Oh yeah...ZERO. Sorry!
You mean like in '94, which happened to be your first playoff series as a franchise, where you guys got swept 3-0 by Indiana? Might I add that yall were the higher seeded team in that matchup.
Or maybe the '95 finals when you guys were the number 1 seed in the east and got swept in the finals (4-0) by the 6 seeded team from the west, Houston?
And surely you can't be talking about in '96 when you got swept in the conference finals 4-0 by the Bulls?
I'm guessing '07 didn't happen either when the Pistons rolled you guys in the first round 4-0?
I must say, you guys have never even been swept, much less lose when down 0-2. :facepalm: You definitely got us there bud! (I didn't include times you went down 0-2 and were able to win a game before losing the series)
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-23-2010, 10:24 AM
You mean like in '94, which happened to be your first playoff series as a franchise, where you guys got swept 3-0 by Indiana? Might I add that yall were the higher seeded team in that matchup.
Or maybe the '95 finals when you guys were the number 1 seed in the east and got swept in the finals (4-0) by the 6 seeded team from the west, Houston?
And surely you can't be talking about in '96 when you got swept in the conference finals 4-0 by the Bulls?
I'm guessing '07 didn't happen either when the Pistons rolled you guys in the first round 4-0?
I must say, you guys have never even been swept, much less lose when down 0-2. :facepalm: You definitely got us there bud! (I didn't include times you went down 0-2 and were able to win a game before losing the series)
Apparently, the North Carolina public school system doesn't put a strong enough emphasis on reading comprehension. I'll put this in all caps so it stands out enough for your hillbilly eyes to grasp what I am stating:
THE MAGIC HAS NEVER LOST A SERIES IN WHICH THE MAGIC HAS HAD A TWO GAMES TO ZERO LEAD.
Is that better, Zeke?
SWedd523
04-23-2010, 11:38 AM
Can't say that I know much about the North Carolina public school system, being a product of the South Carolina education system.
I also don't know much about the Social Security system in Florida. How are you and the other geriatric patients being treated, nicely I hope? Does the medicine they give you old crotchety bastards always make you so grumpy and bitter or is that a product of your less than stellar upbringing?
Let me put this in caps so it's more clear: THE BOBCATS HAVE NEVER LOST A PLAYOFFS SERIES IN WHICH THEY HELD A 2-0 LEAD.
Fact check that shit you old osteoporosis having bum. Go drink some metamucil.
Toocool
04-23-2010, 12:04 PM
I have to say, it is rather hilarious how you guys were talking so much smack before this series began and now you're already looking at possible off-season moves to improve your team. It's as if you've given up hope. Hey, you're only down 2-0! Do you know how many times the Orlando Magic has given up a 2-0 lead in the playoffs and lost a series?
Oh yeah...ZERO. Sorry!
When were we ever talking smack :facepalm:
It's nice to have people post, but seriously think before you post. Do you have ANY...ANY CLUE at all what you're typing? Do you have a brain, where it whirls and then you think on what you are going to say before you type? Do you KNOW what you are even typing? Isn't it funny, that the most idiotic people always have something to say. Applies here, with you.
Perhaps we don't share the same view as you. Sure some may go with the Carpe Diem and "seize the day." For us, we seize the day by the balls and we think of the future. And clearly, you have no future with retarded posts like that.
And one other thing. Get your facts right before you post.
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-23-2010, 12:30 PM
When were we ever talking smack :facepalm:
And one other thing. Get your facts right before you post.
This:I do not fear the Magic at all, even though the last game where the Bobcats beat the Magic was a back to back for the Magic with one hour of sleep lost due to Daylights Savings Time.
Based on the bench the Bobcats now have, I think they have more quality depth than Orlando, and that will be the difference, despite Howard and Carter.
We haven't seen the entire Bobcats roster healthy all season, and we still aren't these last few games of the season but if all of their bigs are available in that series (as they are expected to be), I think Magic players are going to be in for a big surprise.
This:I think we can beat Orlando. They are a team that dies on the three as much as they live off it, and if we force them to try (they will oblige) we can beat them as long as we dont do the same thing. And as you said, Dwight will be flustered by our collection of bigs. I see us winning
This:Mark my words, the Bobcats will take one of the first two in Orlando, and Orlando will implode.
This:Orlando doesn't scare me one bit...and we're going to stomp all over them.
This:we beat you scrubs last game without our best player. LOL
This:you also have a terrible coach, wince harder, and you live and die by the three. youll never win a ring. but its ok, Stack Jack and Nazr will let Dwight kiss theirs if he's lucky
And that's all in just one thread. My facts are solid: The Magic has never lost a series in which we have led 2-0. Check it. And have a nice summer.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-23-2010, 02:30 PM
This:I do not fear the Magic at all, even though the last game where the Bobcats beat the Magic was a back to back for the Magic with one hour of sleep lost due to Daylights Savings Time.
Based on the bench the Bobcats now have, I think they have more quality depth than Orlando, and that will be the difference, despite Howard and Carter.
We haven't seen the entire Bobcats roster healthy all season, and we still aren't these last few games of the season but if all of their bigs are available in that series (as they are expected to be), I think Magic players are going to be in for a big surprise.
This:I think we can beat Orlando. They are a team that dies on the three as much as they live off it, and if we force them to try (they will oblige) we can beat them as long as we dont do the same thing. And as you said, Dwight will be flustered by our collection of bigs. I see us winning
This:Mark my words, the Bobcats will take one of the first two in Orlando, and Orlando will implode.
This:Orlando doesn't scare me one bit...and we're going to stomp all over them.
This:we beat you scrubs last game without our best player. LOL
This:you also have a terrible coach, wince harder, and you live and die by the three. youll never win a ring. but its ok, Stack Jack and Nazr will let Dwight kiss theirs if he's lucky
And that's all in just one thread. My facts are solid: The Magic has never lost a series in which we have led 2-0. Check it. And have a nice summer. I agree with all your examples but the second one. What you have with the smack talk post is a bunch of overly excited Bobcats fans going on blind optimism.
I and some others have not talked smack and have used common sense where this playoff series is concerned. I am sure if you wanted to, you could find plenty of sensible post that were only sizing up the competition. There is nothing wrong with that. As far as degrading the Magic and the such, this is a Bobcats basketball team forum and talking trash on it is our business.
Our Bobcats are new to this whole playoffs thing so forgive some if they talk a little smack amongst like minded fans. Is some of the trash talking ignorant? Yes. Being that the Magic are a great team and have earned their stripes. I would not say going into this series that we somehow were a better team. I would say that our Bobcats have proven they can play with the big boys. So based on how this seasons gone it is not unreasonable to think the "weaker" team might have a fighters chance. The best teams don't always win.
I will say that in the case of 7th and 8th seeds the best teams usually do win. Still there are a few instances where 7th and 8th seeds pulled off the upset. Thus a belief our team has a chance.
The one thing Bobcats fans on this forum forget is that our team plays better at home. It is not likely we win the series but I feel our team has a good chance at winning their home games. If they don't they will make things close in both home games.
BlueandWhiteIgnite
04-23-2010, 03:06 PM
I agree with all your examples but the second one. What you have with the smack talk post is a bunch of overly excited Bobcats fans going on blind optimism.
I and some others have not talked smack and have used common sense where this playoff series is concerned. I am sure if you wanted to, you could find plenty of sensible post that were only sizing up the competition. There is nothing wrong with that. As far as degrading the Magic and the such, this is a Bobcats basketball team forum and talking trash on it is our business.
Our Bobcats are new to this whole playoffs thing so forgive some if they talk a little smack amongst like minded fans. Is some of the trash talking ignorant? Yes. Being that the Magic are a great team and have earned their stripes. I would not say going into this series that we somehow were a better team. I would say that our Bobcats have proven they can play with the big boys. So based on how this seasons gone it is not unreasonable to think the "weaker" team might have a fighters chance. The best teams don't always win.
I will say that in the case of 7th and 8th seeds the best teams usually do win. Still there are a few instances where 7th and 8th seeds pulled off the upset. Thus a belief our team has a chance.
The one thing Bobcats fans on this forum forget is that our team plays better at home. It is not likely we win the series but I feel our team has a good chance at winning their home games. If they don't they will make things close in both home games.
If all Bobcats fans were as logical and passionate as you, there would be no joy in "trolling" (or talking smack, as I prefer to call it). You are a rare breed on a message board, a level-headed individual committed to insightful discourse and supporting one's team. I truly wish you guys good luck and hope we can avoid your 'Cats until the ECF next season.
Al Jefferson, David West,Mareese Speights,Serge Ibaka and even Glen Davis are some of my dream players i would love to pick up.
And people think Boris Diaw is fat :rolleyes:
West is old, Ibaka is a more refined TT, Speights is overrated, and Davis makes Shaq look skinny.
But Big Al is ok :biggrin:
Marvel
04-23-2010, 05:57 PM
And people think Boris Diaw is fat :rolleyes:
West is old, Ibaka is a more refined TT, Speights is overrated, and Davis makes Shaq look skinny.
But Big Al is ok :biggrin:
Fat.......Davis is better than Diaw on his worst day.
If you didn't watch last years playoffs you wouldn't know that.If you didn't watch any Boston games this season you wouldn't know that.If you didn't watch game 2 of the Miami-Boston series you wouldn't know that.
Fat........the difference between Doris and Davis is that Baby is actually a true pf who plays like a pf.
The difference between Doris and Davis is Baby doesn't get pussified around in the paint.
The difference between Doris and Davis is Baby uses his strength not fat down in the low post to actually score points not commit turnovers or be there every now and then when he feels like it.
And as for your other comments on West,Speights and Ibaka, obviously you haven't seen them play.You must have had one of your "brain farts".
All of them are better than Diaw.Take your medicine.
If you didn't watch last years playoffs you wouldn't know that.If you didn't watch any Boston games this season you wouldn't know that.If you didn't watch game 2 of the Miami-Boston series you wouldn't know that.
Fat........the difference between Doris and Davis is that Baby is actually a true pf who plays like a pf.
The difference between Doris and Davis is Baby doesn't get pussified around in the paint.
The difference between Doris and Davis is Baby uses his strength not fat down in the low post to actually score points not commit turnovers or be there every now and then when he feels like it.
And as for your other comments on West,Speights and Ibaka, obviously you haven't seen them play.You must have had one of your "brain farts".
All of them are better than Diaw.Take your medicine.
I never disputed them being better. Go read my post. I never once said Boris was better. But, for the price we'd have to pay to get one of them, it's not worth it to upgrade marginally for someone who still has major flaws. The Sixers wanted a pick and a talented player for Speights. That's a no go. The C's wanted our only shooter for Davis who's also pissed off Boston management (and for the record, I watched all of the Bulls-C's series and a couple of the Magic games, including the Big Toddler's GW). West is worn out, from being the only post scorer in NOLA the last few years. He's not worth his salary now, much less in 2-3 years. Ibaka I like, but OKC isn't giving him up. So, at the end of the day, Big Al is the only one worth going for, and with Kahn up there, who knows.
CatNation
04-23-2010, 10:20 PM
Glen Davis is one of those guys who looks great on a good team but he would be absolute garbage here.
KT#20
04-24-2010, 02:03 PM
Davis over Diaw is a joke. I would gladly welcome West and Jefferson to the Bobcats. Speights and Ibaka, also, but neither is a sure deal to be an upgrade.
Marvel
04-24-2010, 04:20 PM
LOL..... Homers.Doris sucks.
KT#20
04-25-2010, 02:07 PM
He definitely hasn't been good this season, but he doesn't suck. I'm all for a new power forward and center, because Diaw and Chandler cost us home court this season.
That said, Davis over Diaw is a joke. Unless you're intent on ignoring every regular season of Davis' career in your rambling, then you'll come to the same conclusion.
bobcatniners09
04-25-2010, 03:34 PM
We will win Game 4. If we somehow force game 6 I'm there.
BobCatsFanInTx
04-26-2010, 02:48 PM
For the most part Doris Meow has been soft and has not played with passion. When Boris is Boris instead of Doris he is an assett. Unfortunately for us he is too soft too often and shy's away from pressure.
No doubt in my mind Boris should go but what we can get for him is another question all together. Of all the 4's you mentioned I prefer Ibaka. That guy is a stud and will be a major assett.
OKC is challenging the Lakers and I give them immense credit for that. I feel they can beat the Lakers in round one but only if LAL does not wake up. That said, I like the makeup of OKC and feel they could be an elite team for a long time.
Still, LA is a veteren team like Orlando is against us and I expect LA to come alive and show why experience is better suited to advance than is youth and inexperience.
OKC will be great soon though.
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