Tony Parker

[superb1]

I'm just throwing this out there for discussion. Not sure if we talked about it before. But Rumor is that Tony maybe on the trade block. Not sure how true. But how does everyone feel about him, if it is feasible to bring him here. I knew of Tony but never followed the Spurs that close but I think it would not be a bad idea, he only 27, they have George Hill there and he could be a upgrade to Felton if we decide not to retain him.

[BETCATS]

Id trade Felton in a sign and trade + Nazr's expiring + Lexy for him and Matt Bonner.
I dont see 'it' (Tony being traded anywhere) happening though.

[SWedd523]

He may be 27 in human years, but he's far older in terms of basketball years. He's already played 131 playoff games. That's a ton of wear and tear.



All things considered though, I'd definitely welcome him and think he'd be an improvement on Ray, his expiring would be attractive as it would go along with the rest of our guys next summer.

I'd look at a S&T with Ray, Jack, and Lexy for Parker, Roger Mason, and a 1st.

[Toocool]

Parker is brilliant, we all know that.
However, again the wear and tear on his body is to be questioned.
He's got plenty of experience, but has also had a lot of injuries.

I'm a horrible trader, but I suppose it would involve something with Felton and Jax.

Would mean our lineup would be:

Parker/DJ
Hughes/Hendo (or vice-versa)
Crash/Graham/UPS
TT/Diaw/UPS
TC:Nazzy:Theo

Not too bad, rather weak on the SG side of things, although that would depend on Hendo's development over the off-season.

[Muttley]

Parker is brilliant, we all know that.
However, again the wear and tear on his body is to be questioned.
He's got plenty of experience, but has also had a lot of injuries.

I'm a horrible trader, but I suppose it would involve something with Felton and Jax.

Would mean our lineup would be:

Parker/DJ
Hughes/Hendo (or vice-versa)
Crash/Graham/UPS
TT/Diaw/UPS
TC:Nazzy:Theo

Not too bad, rather weak on the SG side of things, although that would depend on Hendo's development over the off-season.
I would try for Flip over Hughes (or possibly both at their price). Hell, sign anyone that can hit a wide-open 3 pointer and stick him at the 2-spot. It's worked for San Antonio for years.

I'd easily do Felton/Jax/Lex for Tony/Toni/Tone, Mason and a #1.

[superb1]

He may be 27 in human years, but he's far older in terms of basketball years. He's already played 131 playoff games. That's a ton of wear and tear.



All things considered though, I'd definitely welcome him and think he'd be an improvement on Ray, his expiring would be attractive as it would go along with the rest of our guys next summer.

I'd look at a S&T with Ray, Jack, and Lexy for Parker, Roger Mason, and a 1st.


He may be 27 in human years, but he's far older in terms of basketball years. He's already played 131 playoff games. That's a ton of wear and tear.

lol, that's why I was thinking he was older than that. yeah i forgot about the wear and tear on him

[Muttley]

He may be 27 in human years, but he's far older in terms of basketball years. He's already played 131 playoff games. That's a ton of wear and tear.

lol, that's why I was thinking he was older than that. yeah i forgot about the wear and tear on him
Still, for one year, I'd give it a shot. Maybe a 1-year extension, then CP3?

[ammofan]

Yes please trade for Tony!

Felton, Boris, Draft Picks?(Not that we have any but IDK what else they would want)
to SAS for
Parker, Filler

[Plowright]

I would take Parker in a heartbeat and get rid of felton. By the time he has passed it DJ can take over (we hope)

[DY_nasty]

First off, why would any of you want Matt Bonner?

Second, I don't even think that you'd have to throw that much in for a Felton S&T for Parker (such as assets like young players or future picks). Parker's beat up, and will remain beat up because his of his off-season schedule. If San Antonio is looking to drop TP for a starting level point guard with some decent experience while they continue to groom George Hill, then I think that they almost have to go after Felton if they intend to do it this year.

If we give up anything other than filler to make the (still unlikely at best) deal work, then we're getting shafted.

[WhatAboutBob_cats]

It was all false information, apparently.
http://www.slamonline.com/online/nba/2010/05/spurs-have-no-plans-to-trade-tony-parker/

[superb1]

I figured that, I was just putting it out there for discussion

[SWedd523]

How many times before have GMs said guys weren't available only to trade him a month later? Lots. By saying something like this, Buford keeps the value on Parker high so that IF he were to trade him, he'd get a bit more out of it.

[Demon DeaCat]

I think they'd deal him, but they're going to want good young talent and draft picks in return for a guy of his caliber, and we don't have either. The best deal I think we could realistically offer would be something like Boris + DJ, and I'd have to think they could do better than that. I don't know that they'd even want Jack given his age, but I don't think we could afford to trade him anyway without getting a starting caliber SG in return. I just don't think we have the pieces to make anything work there.

[DY_nasty]

If we were to get Tony, I'd like to at least see how he paired up Diaw.

[spectre]

Tony Parker has New York Max Money on Radar - RGM Wiretap (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66527/20100512/tony_parker_has_new_york_max_money_on_radar/)


Anyone want him enough to give him the Max?

Not me.

[DY_nasty]

Tony Parker has New York Max Money on Radar - RGM Wiretap (http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/66527/20100512/tony_parker_has_new_york_max_money_on_radar/)


Anyone want him enough to give him the Max?

Not me.


LOL

I'll pass.

[ammofan]

It really wouldnt surprise me if he did get traded......I believe he is on the block

[superb1]

I think they'd deal him, but they're going to want good young talent and draft picks in return for a guy of his caliber, and we don't have either. The best deal I think we could realistically offer would be something like Boris + DJ, and I'd have to think they could do better than that. I don't know that they'd even want Jack given his age, but I don't think we could afford to trade him anyway without getting a starting caliber SG in return. I just don't think we have the pieces to make anything work there.

what would the Spurs really want anyway. It is obvious that they are getting old, so do they want a mature vet or do they start with the young movement.

[G-Force]

Honestly, for Tony Parker's salaries(12-13million) I would rather use the cap to keep Felton and T2. Felton may have played badly in the Playoff (probably due to it being his first), I think he still have room to grow and be an elite PG. T2 is playing great in general for the minutes he get, but should be discuss else where. I just don't see Tony Parker a good fit for the Bobcats, IMO.

[DY_nasty]

Well the thing with Tony Parker is that he's better than Raymond Felton in EVERY way. On Raymond Felton's best day, he's not quite Tony Parker.

People don't realize how much guys like Ginobli and Parker are restricted in Pop's system. If they were allowed to run wild, or even be a focal point of an offense, they'd put up huge numbers. That being said, I think Larry Brown and Pop are too much alike to assume that Tony Parker would have career numbers if he landed here.

Still, if the Bobcats were to upgrade at point guard this offseason, Tony Parker makes a lot of sense...

[spectre]

Well the thing with Tony Parker is that he's better than Raymond Felton in EVERY way (except from deep...never thought I'd be saying THAT). On Raymond Felton's best day, he's not quite Tony Parker.

People don't realize how much guys like Ginobli and Parker are restricted in Pop's system. If they were allowed to run wild, or even be a focal point of an offense, they'd put up huge numbers. That being said, I think Larry Brown and Pop are too much alike to assume that Tony Parker would have career numbers if he landed here.

Still, if the Bobcats were to upgrade at point guard this offseason, Tony Parker makes a lot of sense...

Other than the above I agree. I'd love to have TP, but I don't think I could stomach the max for him.

[SWedd523]

I know it was said that he'd want max money in FA, but Thats another year from now, his expiring would be extremely valuable next offseason added to the rest of our expirings. It'd be a great way for MJ to work his influence on some guys and see if we can overhaul the roster.

Next year is (in my eyes) the last solidly productive year for Jack, so of we don't make a deep run we could use those expirings and rewoltheroster without needing to have a down year.




I don't think he'd get max money either way.

[Muttley]

what would the Spurs really want anyway. It is obvious that they are getting old, so do they want a mature vet or do they start with the young movement.
I think they want a young big for Duncan to mentor.

Regarding the max contract, I'm with SWedd. We wouldn't have to give him the max or any other contract, but it'd be cool to see how he could run this team for a year.

[BRNC]

...as a one year investment I think TP would be great...keeping in mind that he's a very "old" 28...but I'd like to see it...only "young" big we have to trade is TT and I do not see Pop wanting him...so I don't see a match at all...

[Demon DeaCat]

I know it was said that he'd want max money in FA, but Thats another year from now, his expiring would be extremely valuable next offseason added to the rest of our expirings. It'd be a great way for MJ to work his influence on some guys and see if we can overhaul the roster.

Next year is (in my eyes) the last solidly productive year for Jack, so of we don't make a deep run we could use those expirings and rewoltheroster without needing to have a down year.

I don't think he'd get max money either way.

I agree with your prognosis that Jack only has one really good year left, which is why I think we have to trade him now. After that he becomes less productive and more expensive, thereby making him almost immovable.



what would the Spurs really want anyway. It is obvious that they are getting old, so do they want a mature vet or do they start with the young movement.

As for what the Spurs would want for TP, I could see them going for an older vet only if they thought he was the final piece to a championship team, ala Jamison and the Cavs. Otherwise, I'd think they'd want to inject some youth. Whether they think Jack could be that final piece or not, I don't know. But if I were them, I'd be scared to death of his contract for the reasons stated above.

[BRNC]

Demon...I'm not sure the contract would scare them...or Jack (since he's played for Pop and Pop likes him) but they're (rumor) looking for a young big to go with Duncan...Pop is very-very picky about BB IQ and we have no "young big" that he would want...that's the problem...