76ers are willing to trade the number 2 overall pick

[Black]

The Sixers are reportedly making the No. 2 pick in the draft available, but there are strings attached.
A team would have to take Elton Brand and the three years, $51 million left on his contract along with the pick. It's a pretty sure bet that no NBA team is going to take on that burden, so the pick is probably staying with the Sixers.

http://www.rotoworld.com/content/playerpages/playerbreakingnews.asp?sport=NBA&id=605&line=136312&spln=1

Just throwing it out there for the heck of it. Let the random conjecturing begin!

[teej]

Only if they take Diaw and Gana...

[polarcat]

Been awhile since I've been on to contribute. Highly doubt we do it, but here's a wet dream to imagine.

We ship out Diaw, Hendo and Diop/Nazzy and draft Evan Turner. Now that is a true 2 with All-Star potential. We get to re-do the Brandon Roy foul-up

[Black]

Diaw
Nazr
Future 1st


:D

[DY_nasty]

Diaw
Nazr
Future 1st


:D
Do it. Hard and fast.

[BETCATS]

i might be the only guy left who thinks Brand is still capible of being a 20/10 guy, so it might blind me a little bit when i say i would do this in a heart beat. While the finnacial reprocussions would be obvious, i think if we got Brand he would put up big numbers in our system.

And i think we could lowball too. If the Wizards were willing to trade their pick and only got Mike Miller/Randy Foye in return, i am guessing the Sixers wouldnt ask for much more than taking Brand's contract.

[DY_nasty]

i might be the only guy left who thinks Brand is still capible of being a 20/10 guy, so it might blind me a little bit when i say i would do this in a heart beat. While the finnacial reprocussions would be obvious, i think if we got Brand he would put up big numbers in our system.

And i think we could lowball too. If the Wizards were willing to trade their pick and only got Mike Miller/Randy Foye in return, i am guessing the Sixers wouldnt ask for much more than taking Brand's contract.
You aren't the only guy! :biggrin:

[ammofan]

I would be willing to part with Capt. Jack.......and of course Boris Meow

We could draft Turner with 2 and Brand would start at PF.

Lineup:
Felton/Augusin
Turner/Hughes or Flip/Hendo
Gerald
Brand/Tyrus
Tyson/Naz/Lex

Young and athletic(Except brand lol)

[catsandheels]

I would trade for that pick. If we can trade Boris and Gana/ nazr then we could draft turner and that would make jax expandable and maybe even get a playoff pg out of him. I love turners style of play, unlike hendo he has handles and has a pretty good jumper.

[TattoodCats4life]

If I were MJ I'd be on the phone with philly RIGHT NOW... Brand and pick #2 for Diaw and Diop, We'd be dumb as hell to not. I mean until the wizards actually pick, there is no 100% that wall will go first, you never know, and if they do take wall, there are some killer guys in the draft. Maybe the nets would trade 3 and 31 for 2 ? Or the wolves maybe take 2 for 4 and 16 (ours) or ever 4 and 23. It would just be dumb, I mean brand is better than diaw any day of the week ;)

[catsandheels]

We could always use the 2 and a s&t with tyrus or felts to try and go after bosh or the starting pg we desperatly need.

[SWedd523]

Um guys, there is absolutely no way in hell that they trade 2 and Brand for Diaw and Diop. Come up with something new, like perhaps what Slam offered up:

Jack + Nazr for Turner + Brand


sure seems more likely

[thesnowman22]

can't imagine they would do that either. if they would they are idiots.

[DY_nasty]

can't imagine they would do that either. if they would they are idiots.
Philly has probably one of the top 5 dumbest FOs in the league right now. Hope x 1000

[Chef]

Um guys, there is absolutely no way in hell that they trade 2 and Brand for Diaw and Diop. Come up with something new, like perhaps what Slam offered up:

Jack + Nazr for Turner + Brand


sure seems more likely

why would they want jax? they have a huge log jam at the 3.

[SWedd523]

Jack is a 2

[SirBobcat]

They will not entertain trading up to #2. The ONLY reason they'd do that is if the Wizards decided to go with someone not named John Wall.

Let's evaluate this: Larry Brown very rarely has rookies play solid numbers their rookie season (example: DJ Augustin and Gerald Henderson)

The only rookie Brown and company would make a drastic move for is John Wall due to Larry's obsession at the PG position. This is the era of dominate PGs, so if we could find a way to draft Wall, then we gotta do it.

Seeing as Washington will more than likely not pass up the opportunity to pick Wall, then I would say our hopes for this trade are slim to none.

[Chef]

Jack is a 2

so they would run a lineup of

holliday
jax
iggy
thad young?
dalembert

too small. i just don't see jax as a big-time want for them considering his price tag and age.
if it was jax for brand they would do it in a heartbeat. or if we had say a top 6 or 7 pick they might do it with a future 1 for us.

[DY_nasty]

This is a little off topic but John Wall is getting overhyped a bit... he's good, but not Lebron-all-or-nothing-no-one-else-in-the-draft-will-be-better good. He can't run a team. If you look at that Kentucky roster... wow, any point guard with above average passing abilities would've flourished. I really don't even feel as though he was the best player on his own team. It was impossible to double team anyone on that roster, which is full of nba talent, without getting destroyed. Whereas on the otherhand, Turner got double'd every game and OSU's success was directly dependent on him.

Btw, DJ got his minutes from LB during his rookie year.

And John Wall in Larry Brown system would make me consider jumping off a building.

[Chef]

This is a little off topic but John Wall is getting overhyped a bit... he's good, but not Lebron-all-or-nothing-no-one-else-in-the-draft-will-be-better good. He can't run a team. If you look at that Kentucky roster... wow, any point guard with above average passing abilities would've flourished. I really don't even feel as though he was the best player on his own team. It was impossible to double team anyone on that roster, which is full of nba talent, without getting destroyed. Whereas on the otherhand, Turner got double'd every game and OSU's success was directly dependent on him.

Btw, DJ got his minutes from LB during his rookie year.

And John Wall in Larry Brown system would make me consider jumping off a building.

couldn't agree more. this chad ford stuff, about any team would take him with the POSSIBLE exception of NO or Utah. seriously? i would take derrick rose of john wall any day. john wall is going to have a lot of trouble with the bigger/stronger more physical nba game. i think he is sometimes sloppy and turnover prone. he also has a lot of problems running a slow down half court offense. with that said if the bobcats had the #1 pick, i would totally pick him or work out an outstanding trade.

[teej]

Uh, guys, Evan is Philly's #1...only way they would trade the pick is either the Wizards pick Turner OR someone takes all of Brand's contract for nothing. That's why I said unless we trade Diop or Diaw its not worth it.

[murphman]

Smokescreen.

Wall/Turner is the best 1/2 draft picks since Odom/Durant. Durant turned out to be a steal at #2. Philly will not take anything less than a sign and trade for an elite talent (Wade, Bosh, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, etc) plus taking Brand off their hands. And we all know nobody will do this. Getting a talent like Turner is huge enough but also getting him at a cost of only a few million per season early on makes the #2 pick worth a value near impossible for any team to match.

Lock it in. Washington and Philly will ask for the world and nothing less for the top 2 picks.

[Black]

Smokescreen.

Wall/Turner is the best 1/2 draft picks since Odom/Durant. Durant turned out to be a steal at #2. Philly will not take anything less than a sign and trade for an elite talent (Wade, Bosh, Deron Williams, Dwight Howard, etc) plus taking Brand off their hands. And we all know nobody will do this. Getting a talent like Turner is huge enough but also getting him at a cost of only a few million per season early on makes the #2 pick worth a value near impossible for any team to match.

Lock it in. Washington and Philly will ask for the world and nothing less for the top 2 picks.

Odom? i guess you mean Oden, but anyway....you are delusional....nearly as delusional as they would be to think they could get a single player you listed....you would be surprised to see what a team would give up to unload a huge contract

[GoBobs]

Wall and Turner are way overrated. There is a lot of competition at the guard positions in the NBA. Neither is a sure thing. It is a lot different when you are seven feet tall.

I wouldn't take brand for the #2. If Turner doesn't turn out to be great you destroy your team for three years with Brands awful contract.

[Toocool]

I wouldn't bite on that, with Brand and his massive contract.
Like everyone said, i would only be willing to take Brand's contract with Diop and Diaw. At least Brand can contribute, Diop can't do crap.

Anything other than that, I would say no.

[spectre]

Forget Jax, forget Diop and forget Boris. IF the Sixers are willing to part with the 2nd overall they're going to AT LEAST want all expirings and would probably prefer instant cap savings right now. They're already over the LT limit for next year and they still need to add players.

That's at the least. Most likely they'd also want either a pick or an up and coming young talent.

Remember what I said about trading picks at their highest point?

I think Ford is right...no one will take a deal they'd want.

[Weezy21]

Bobcats trade- chandler, dj, diaw
Bobcats get- cp3, brand

Line-up
C-Naz/Theo/Diop
PF-Brand/UPS
SF-Wallace
SG-Jax
PG-cp3

Reason: playmaker in paul and first time ever low post scorer

76ers trade- brand, #2 pick, sammy d
76ers get- chandler, peja, diaw

Line-up
C-Speights/Tyson
PF-Diaw/Speights
SF-Peja/Thad
SG-Iggy
PG-Jrue/Lou

Reason: unload a terrible contract in brand and also move sammy for a more athletic big man...also having a TON of money coming off the books after next season

Hornets trade- cp3, peja
Hornets get- #2 pick, dj, sammy D, S&T tyrus

Line-up
C-Okafor/Sammy D
PF-West/Ed Davis(11th pick)
SF-Tyrus
SG-Evan Turner/Thorton
PG-Collison/DJ

Reason: Get younger an will have the 2nd and 11th pick...also can package sammy's big expiring at the deadline for something...losing paul might seem like a big hit, but collison has proved to be very capable of picking up the slack...adding turner (brandon roy clone), an athletic freak in tyrus, and possibly ed davis could make for a scary line up

[Chef]

Bobcats trade- chandler, dj, diaw
Bobcats get- cp3, brand

Line-up
C-Naz/Theo/Diop
PF-Brand/UPS
SF-Wallace
SG-Jax
PG-cp3

Reason: playmaker in paul and first time ever low post scorer

76ers trade- brand, #2 pick, sammy d
76ers get- chandler, peja, diaw

Line-up
C-Speights/Tyson
PF-Diaw/Speights
SF-Peja/Thad
SG-Iggy
PG-Jrue/Lou

Reason: unload a terrible contract in brand and also move sammy for a more athletic big man...also having a TON of money coming off the books after next season

Hornets trade- cp3, peja
Hornets get- #2 pick, dj, sammy D, S&T tyrus

Line-up
C-Okafor/Sammy D
PF-West/Ed Davis(11th pick)
SF-Tyrus
SG-Evan Turner/Thorton
PG-Collison/DJ

Reason: Get younger an will have the 2nd and 11th pick...also can package sammy's big expiring at the deadline for something...losing paul might seem like a big hit, but collison has proved to be very capable of picking up the slack...adding turner (brandon roy clone), an athletic freak in tyrus, and possibly ed davis could make for a scary line up

never in a million years would this happen. 76ers are offended by this offer. they will need to swap picks with NO AND get a future 1st from both us and them. even if this is a good move for the future of the franchise, imagine if you were a 6ers fan. the disappointment would be massive.

[polarcat]

agree with chef.... the sixers get bent over (sans lube) on that deal. they would be giving up a future franchise player with the #2 overall and a serviceable, albeit expensive pf. in return they get an underachieving center, a sf past his prime and a soft as hell inconsistent pf. us and new orleans benefit tremendously.

[dnbman]

I think this talk of the 76ers unloading Brand may be a bit overstated. I'm sure they'd love to trade him, but the guy can still play. He's not the albatross some are making him out to be. My guess is that they'd like to get a quality player that would fit into a package for Brand's contract, essentially drafting a talented veteran while moving Brand's contract. I may be wrong, but I don't think they just want to give away the 2nd pick in order to rid themselves of Brand's contract.

[EC123]

Only if they take Diaw and Gana...

And Stephen Jackson.

I'd rather have Turner.

[EC123]

We could always use the 2 and a s&t with tyrus or felts to try and go after bosh or the starting pg we desperatly need.

You need a post player more than a point guard moron.

[Ampsportsduo]

I'm not confident that the Sixers will unload the pick, but if expirings is what the Sixers are after, I would do it. Not because I'm a huge Brand fan, but because Evan Turner could be just what this team needs going forward. In Brand, we would get a like-minded veteran (Want to win now and prove to people I've still got it) to go along with Crash and Jack. In Turner we'd get a guy that could assist with the biggest issue no one is talking about: Fewer minutes for both Jack and Crash. When Jack's contract expires we'd have someone ready to step in and become the face of the franchise.

If this "shopping" is legit, I suspect a draft pick would need to be returned, which would obviously be a potential deal breaker for us.

I'm not as convinced as some regarding Turner, instead looking at this only from a projected role-filling perspective.

[Ampsportsduo]

You need a post player more than a point guard moron.

Based on what exactly? Raymond's poised to be potentially overpaid while the team is at least two deep at both PF and C.

Stop the namecalling.

[DY_nasty]

I'm not confident that the Sixers will unload the pick, but if expirings is what the Sixers are after, I would do it. Not because I'm a huge Brand fan, but because Evan Turner could be just what this team needs going forward. In Brand, we would get a like-minded veteran (Want to win now and prove to people I've still got it) to go along with Crash and Jack. In Turner we'd get a guy that could assist with the biggest issue no one is talking about: Fewer minutes for both Jack and Crash. When Jack's contract expires we'd have someone ready to step in and become the face of the franchise.

If this "shopping" is legit, I suspect a draft pick would need to be returned, which would obviously be a potential deal breaker for us.

I'm not as convinced as some regarding Turner, instead looking at this only from a projected role-filling perspective.
You sir are a gentleman and a scholar. Hats off to you my good man.

[Marvel]

In Turner we'd get a guy that could assist with the biggest issue no one is talking about: Fewer minutes for both Jack and Crash.

And if LB returns...........it's more likely Flip(if we re sign him) and any other 55 year old veteran will get the backup minutes if he does.

[ziggy]

In Turner we'd get a guy that could assist with the biggest issue no one is talking about: Fewer minutes for both Jack and Crash.

Shouldn't Henderson be able to step up and fill that role next season? That's assuming he puts in plenty of work on his jumper over the summer.

[BRNC]

The 76ers would be more inclined if a pick (this year) was coming back...we might be able to do something if we buy one of the 20ish picks available...it would certainly make the expiring contracts we have more appealing...just a thought...

[Weezy21]

Bobcats trade: Jax, Tyrus, DJ, Henderson, Tyson, Naz ($38+)
Bobcats get: Brand, #2, Nene, JR smith, Lou Williams ($38.6)

C-Nene/Diop/Lexy
PF-Brand/UPS
SF-Wallace/Diaw
SG-Turner/Smith
PG-Williams/Flip

We take on long term salary but for the most part get a lot younger

76ers trade:Brand,#2, Lou Williams ($21.3)
76ers get: Henderson, DJ, Tyson ($17.75)

C-Tyson/Sammy
PF-Speights/Smith
SF-Iggy/Thad
SG-Green/Henderson
PG-Jrue/DJ

They dont want brand...they also want to move williams long term deal since drafting jrue...dj an jrue can battle for the position...again they would have a lot of cap room next year...ppl said we should buy a pick an package that with tyson, but adding henderson an dj is like giving them 2 first round picks

Nuggets trade: Nene, JR smith ($17.3)
Nuggets get: Jax, Naz, Tyrus ($21.6)

C-Birdman/Naz
PF-KMart/Tyrus
SF-Melo/Tyrus
SG-Jax/Afflalo
PG-Billups/Lawson

Ok still don't know if nuggets would do this...but they get a much better SG in jackson vs. JR...plus they add tyrus, who they have been wanting...after next year, if they decide to move lawson up to starter an not pick up the option on billups, they will have $36.5 million coming off the books JUST by losing billups(old), Kmart(not the same), Naz(old) alone...plus if Melo decides to go to NY, then that means they would have $53 million in cap from 4 players...while still having a core of lawson, jax, tyrus, birdman

[BobCatsFanInTx]

You need a post player more than a point guard moron.You have been admonished for being an ass before and yet you continue to be an ass. There is no need to call people names you don't agree with. Why not simply make your case without being mean spirited?!!!!