Adam's Calender

[Ghost Kat]

I think this might be one of the coolest and maybe history changing discoveries of this century. Well, atleast so far. In Africa a site has been discovered that dates back to atleast 75-100,000 years ago.

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/sumer_anunnaki/esp_sumer_annunaki35.htm

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0vVWaTba0-0

What does this discovery mean??

Does this change the human timeline?

If there was such a large and well developed civilization, What happened to them?

BTW: I spelled Calendar wrong in the title

[ND22]

It just goes to show you that finding things like this means there are a lot of things out there we have yet to discover and may never will. Pretty astonishing discovery.

[bing!]

Yeah, all loonies have a penchant for donning a fedora and spewing pseudo-scientific nonsense...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xzDY0EBvCbU&feature=related

^ now, this guy... this bastard made me recoil in shame every time I had to mention I was actually a Bosnian. Notice the similarities in body language, clothing, the mysticism surrounding the ancient civilizations in the material they're selling and the way they utilize their knack for mesmerizing the ignorant into serving and nurturing their delusions of grandeur. He single-handedly depleted the budget of the local archeological societies and museums and herded in hundreds to help him, dig this (no pun intended), excavate the site.

This hardly has anything to do with Michael Tellinger's effort to portray a random selection of rocks as a human's early attempt at tracking sun, but it just goes to show that there's a plethora of individuals who treat their Indy Jones complex and grab some extra dough on the side in one fell swoop, be it the latest fad of 2012 paradigm shift, the ancient astronauts theory, extinct South American civilizations or what have you.

Kat, please dude, arm yourself with skepticism before dwelling into this manure.

/rant

[Ghost Kat]

Kat, please dude, arm yourself with skepticism before dwelling into this manure.

/rant

I'm not exactly sure what prompted this rant, But I'll start off saying the Bosnian temple site, Isn't anything special. That site has nothing to do with stones that have been moved on purpose to create some type of building or anything. I'm open to all ideas, Skepticism is making your mind up before you hear the edvidence. Coming into a subject skeptical means you don't have open mind, so it's even harder to believe the truth when u see it.

Now about Michael Tellinger, I dont know who the hell he is, But there aren't many other video's about this subject. So if u want to attack the messager fine, but please have something better to say about the message then it's pseudo-scientific. There's no such thing, either u look at the edvidence and believe or you don't.

Now about the site....Far as I know they've used numerous ways to date this site. If it's a "random selection of rocks" why are they lined perfectly with Orion's belt? Why do they line up with the sun during the summer and winter solstice? Random rocks weighing a couple tons just happened to move themselves a couple miles and stand themselves upright and also just happen to be lined up perfectly with the stars......Seriously?

If you read any of the link i posted you will see it's not just one site and one set of random rocks. I think it's three different sites, along with the Calendar site. Thats alot of random rocks

[bing!]

You mention evidence and one's choice of whether one should believe them or not... Kat, not every information blurted out passes as evidence. By taking into account the size of the observable universe and the sheer number of celestial bodies, one can find likening in possibly every aspect of nature (this also brings numerology into mind ). Every single thing is aligned with something, one can randomly place a stone which is perfectly aligned with any of the stars at a specific point of time or position of earth on its orbit... this just depends on the stance you take when 'noticing' said alignment.

What prompted this rant is the fact that there's a great number of these schmucks selling their 'rubbish' left and right under the guise of spreading the truth. Scientific discoveries are published in their respective field journals and not sold to masses in a form of sci-fi/ancient astronauts literature that is appealing to ones who tend to equate the perceivable reality and that which still lies within the domain of theoretical physics with something majestic/fantastic/mystical.

Hence the 'skepticism' comment in the end. The only evidence provided by the video and the website is unverified information that could be placed by literally anyone. Maybe I'm failing to notice that which many (assuming his theories are popular) do, but a picture of ruins hardly serves as 'evidence' that the site is over 70000+ years old.

This is business masquerading as common man's science and I can't stop you from accepting every sliver of information (be it true or false) as a piece of evidence. I'm not disparaging you, as I'm hardly in a position to judge anyone, but I can prompt you not to accept everything at face value, because...


Now about the site....Far as I know they've used numerous ways to date this site. If it's a "random selection of rocks" why are they lined perfectly with Orion's belt?

... means diddly-squat if you're not an astronomer or a physicist familiar with carbon dating method equipped with the knowledge necessary to discern between pseudo-science and fact.

Cheers.

[Ghost Kat]

Kat, not every information blurted out passes as evidence.

I whole heartedly agree with you, But I'm not trying to prove anything. Atleast not this time. I saw something about it on the history channel so I looked it up. I haven't done alot of reseach into Adam's Calendar I just thought it was cool and desided to share it. That being said, Evidence, if its "true" or not, thats in the eye of the beholder.




What prompted this rant is the fact that there's a great number of these schmucks selling their 'rubbish' left and right under the guise of spreading the truth.

Like i said I didn't pay a dollar for this info, But the people that buy those types of books , video's, whatever are open to that type of info. What you call rubbish, means something totally different to another. But you know that. If we all followed the rubbish concept we would never make any new discoveries. If the guy the found the actual city of Troy thought the idea was rubbish he would never have left his house.



Maybe I'm failing to notice that which many (assuming his theories are popular) do, but a picture of ruins hardly serves as 'evidence' that the site is over 70000+ years old.

U are too funny, Geologist look at the patina on the rocks that grows at a measurable rant over time. They look at the ground around the rocks and measure how much ground soil has built up. They can tell if the rock was cut or naturally broken. They also know what areas and rock layers that that rock came from. So they know if the rock has been moved and where from. BTW, random rocks don't arrange themselves into "ruins" .



This is business masquerading as common man's science and I can't stop you from accepting every sliver of information (be it true or false) as a piece of evidence.

Maybe it's just me but I view all evidence as science. Even people with degrees and years in their field don't always agree on whats "truth" so of course I don't expect you to just believe what I posted as true. But did you even google it for yourself? There are plenty more sites then those two I posted. I was tryin to get the info out there.




... means diddly-squat if you're not an astronomer or a physicist familiar with carbon dating method equipped with the knowledge necessary to discern between pseudo-science and fact.

Seriously? So I need to be an astronomer or a physicist to read something and make up my own mind if it's true or not? There are plenty other sources that back up the idea of there being people there. Other cultures in that area have "myths" and other oral history about the people before them. There are also gold mines in that area that date back to 100,000 years ago. Who was mining for gold that far back? The Queen of Sheba was said to have gotten the gold for her kingdom from that area also.

Humans as we know them are atleast 250,000 years old. Why is it so hard to believe people built a calendar to keep track of the sun 100,000 years ago? Alot has happened to this planet in the last 100,000. We had comets hit the planet, two ice ages, all kinds of evil shit. Why is it so hard to believe we may have been almost wiped out a couple time only to rebuild again and again. It's real hard to keep track of civilization when the world is coming to a end.


Cheers.

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The 'random rock selection' notion was intended for the 'calendar' itself, not the actual ruins.

Radiometric dating can determine the exact age of the ruins and the calendar, so there's no need for these 'scientists' to literally beat around the bushes and screaming "millennia!".


Seriously? So I need to be an astronomer or a physicist to read something and make up my own mind if it's true or not?

To make up your own mind, no... to know with certainty, yes. They can liken the formation to any of the known constellations and the only way for one to verify the validity of such a claim is to be familiar with what's being presented... i.e. 'believing' is not the same as 'knowing', so yeah, a person who is ignorant to the field in question (geology/astronomy in this case) can only resort to the former.

I'm gonna employ cheese here and issue a 'let's agree to disagree' resolution. :)

[Ghost Kat]

Radiometric dating can determine the exact age of the ruins

Not exactly, If I go outside and get alot of rocks right now and built a sundial. Then next week someone comes by to radiometric date the site. All they know is how old that actuall rock is, not when it was moved or placed into a formation.



I'm gonna employ cheese here and issue a 'let's agree to disagree' resolution. :)

Ok, I'm cool with that. I just think it very interesting that ancient man kept such good track of the stars, planets and the sun with out any telescopes. It's also wierd that most of the megalithic formations around the world are line up perfectly with Orions belt and other stars. Not sure what it means but thats to big to chalk up to dumb luck. Sun worship is the oldest form of religion in mankinds history. Easy to understand why, The sun means life. It means rebirth, it dies at night and is reborn in the morning.