Good Bye, Raymond Felton [Archive]

Black

07-09-2010, 05:02 PM

The Knicks are close to signing Raymond Felton to a multi-year deal, according to sources that spoke with Yahoo's Marc J. Spears.

http://twitter.com/SpearsNBAYahoo

twitter, i know, but its a yahoo reporter, so its legit

let the Augustin era begin

WarioVsMooChicken

07-09-2010, 05:02 PM

Bring back mcinnis

Black

07-09-2010, 05:15 PM

what was the deal Felton turned down last year?

Fred Williamson

07-09-2010, 05:19 PM

http://i43.tinypic.com/5e770g.jpg

Black

07-09-2010, 05:26 PM

we offered him an dancing Asian kid? no wonder he turned it down

etothet

07-09-2010, 05:51 PM

http://basketball.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68019/20100709/knicks_close_on_multi_year_deal_for_felton/

ammofan

07-09-2010, 06:14 PM

yaaayyyyyyy! Have fun Raymond!!!

lol.....but who else r we gonna get to play point?

spectre

07-09-2010, 07:02 PM

what was the deal Felton turned down last year?

6/42 I think. The rumor I saw this AM said he'd take 4/28. Basically the same amount averaged but less years.

spectre

07-09-2010, 07:35 PM

@SpearsNBAYahoo

Felton's agent Tony Dutt says client has agreed in principle to sign with NYK. Contract won't be longer than 3 yrs & still being worked on.

Black

07-09-2010, 07:43 PM

3 years 21 mil

Demon DeaCat

07-09-2010, 07:47 PM

Making him a very tradeable expiring 2 years from now when they position themselves to go after CP. Nicely played.

Chef

07-09-2010, 08:55 PM

dammit. the knicks are actually making smart basketball moves. cats and dogs living together...

Brown'sTown

07-09-2010, 08:57 PM

tony parker has also been rumored to want to join the knicks. Melo apparently wants to be there too, they could easily become a powerhouse in a short period of time. I think Raymond will do well with the uptempo game, but I also wonder if this will be too much pressure for him. All they were able to get was Amar'e, which is nice, but they lost Lee and got Randolph, who isn't bad, but probably won't totally replace Lee's scoring. Even if he does, Ray will probably be expected to carry a decent load offensive and hit his open 3's. With the NY fans being so hateful, I could see this getting ugly for Ray pretty quickly. Maybe not as bad as Duhon, but pretty rough. Ray might be one of the leagues top assist men next year, but I'm not sure he'll be able to shoot well enough to keep that job for more than a year or so.

dvdbumpus

07-09-2010, 09:02 PM

dvdbumpus

07-09-2010, 09:05 PM

spectre

07-09-2010, 09:08 PM

Just saw this:

http://sports.espn.go.com/new-york/nba/news/story?id=5367965

7 million a year range....goes to show we could have re-signed him. Looks like Larry Brown didn't think he was the PG to take them to the promised land. I loved me some Felton but I have to agree, especially after the Jameer Nelson debacle in the playoffs.

You could be right, but this doesn't prove it. We've long known that due to our cap situation we very well likely could only retain 1 of Tyrus or Felton. They obviously chose TT.

The only way we could really have known was if we hadn't retained TT and still didn't talk to Felton.

dvdbumpus

07-09-2010, 09:12 PM

http://www.mvpgotham.com/nba/695-knicks-agree-to-deal-with-raymond-felton.html

Looks to be $7 million a year. We'll miss you, thank you for playing with all your heart.

Look for this to start a post trend, but what was your favorite Felton moment??

Mine had to be when he got in a car crash and came back to play just a couple days after when he should have stayed out longer....goes to show his toughness. That, or when he played during the summer league to get with his team early....goes to show the heart he had.

Good luck!!!

CatNation

07-09-2010, 09:28 PM

seeya thanks for the blood sweat and tears ray

Jennings

07-09-2010, 09:33 PM

My favorite moment was a non-game moment. I was in Vagas one summer and I was on my way back home. I was about to board the plane and I looked behind me and who was standing there? Raymond. I asked how he was doing and told him I was a huge Bobcats fan. He stood there and talked to me for about 15 mins. He asked me what hotel I stayed in and if I had fun. It just seemed real genuine. I respect that. He could have just been a dick like some of these other players. Since then, I've been a big fan. I wish him all the luck though.

DY_nasty

07-09-2010, 09:47 PM

as much trash as i talk about ray when he's on the court, he was great guy and was awesome for the team and the area

good luck to him, and thank god we didn't pay him 7 mil a year like the knicks

Keetch

07-09-2010, 09:53 PM

I really don't get this. It'll be weird not having Felton around. He was like Mr. Bobcat more than anyone except maybe Crash.

At least Felts didn't have a need for a one-hour meet up with Jim Gray.

But I'm happy he's going to the Knicks as much as anywhere else.

I just can't quite picture DJ as our starting PG; seems very weak. I'm more intrigued about Sherron Collins....but....ssshhhheeeeezzz.

The NBA has gone bonkers. I wish we could just let the Lakers and Heat run around the country playing exhibitions all glitzy high end media show with intense audio video and dancing bears. Then all the other teams play competitive basketball where fans can feel and hear the sound of the ball bouncing on hardwood and the players grinding it out.

okay that was random

Veteran_Picksetter

07-09-2010, 09:56 PM

Thank you Raymond for being the Point Guard who got us to the playoffs. People wanna hate on you for being outplayed by a playoff-seasoned PG on a great team in a 4-game series. Who freakin' helped get us there in the first place?

As far as a favorite specific memory? Too many to count.

He entertained me with his heart and hustle nearly every time I went to the arena.

And I really appreciate the skill improvements in his game the last two seasons.

Ghost Kat

07-09-2010, 10:14 PM

I have mixed feelings about letting Felton go, But if he really thinks he'll have a better career in NYC :p Good Luck!!! Felton is no Steve Nash so if they think they are the east coast Suns....:facepalm:

ziggy

07-09-2010, 10:18 PM

Congratulations to Raymond on his new deal and his new team. He really doesn't seem like a New York City kind of guy though :g:

DY_nasty

07-09-2010, 10:29 PM

Congratulations to Raymond on his new deal and his new team. He really doesn't seem like a New York City kind of guy though :g:
Thats the first thing I thought of... I hope he does good up there, the NY media is rough to say the least.

GoBobs

07-09-2010, 10:52 PM

Sad to see a guy go who always handled himself with class. Along with Wallace, Felton has been the heart and soul of the team these last few years.

I give him about a 50% chance of breaking out and becoming a star next year. (he is gonna need to because Amare's knees are not going to last very long)

Good luck Ray, thanks for the memories.

spectre

07-09-2010, 10:56 PM

Lot's of ups and lots of downs...but I agree with the gist of the thread and only want to remember the good things.

My best was the Indy game his first year (I think...could have been 2nd) where he torched the hell out of them.

After that was the CLE game where afterwards LBJ told him that if he kept it up he would be a star. Heh...that probably won't happen, but that night he sure looked it!

Next was a home game where he badly sprained an ankle, I think they hauled him off on a stretcher yet he was back to play the 2nd half.

Iron man.

Proudiddy

07-09-2010, 10:56 PM

I posted this in the thread I made when I saw he agreed to a contract with them... But, apparently 90% of this board has me on ignore list, but anyway...

Just reported on ESPN bottomline... It didn't mention years or salary, so I'm wondering if they're holding back on that b/c there may be a S&T worked out... If we got Toney Douglas or Anthony Randolph or Ronny Turiaf I would cream my pants.
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ND22

07-09-2010, 11:14 PM

Thanks for five great years Raymond. You always gave 100% and genuinely cared about this team. I wish you all the best and I will definitely be rooting for you in New York.

BlockParty

07-09-2010, 11:26 PM

Ray was a true professional while he was in Charlotte, even if he made bone-headed decisions sometimes, he at least did it while hustling, playing hurt, being a good teammate and good community citizen. I wonder though if NY will appreciate those characteristics. I wish him well and thank him for giving us everything he had.

I also wonder why Ray didn't fire his agent. If you compare the cost-of-living between Charlotte and NY..just in salary he'd need to make 20% more, and the cost of living in a home would be almost 80% more. I did the numbers on the link below based off $6 Million (which is what Ray was offered last year for a long-term deal in Charlotte http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/06/12/1496833/felton-represents-classic-dilemma.html ) Means to 'breakeven' with a $6M job in Charlotte, he'd need to make $7.2M in NY and he'd need to make $10.6M to come out breakeven on the cost of living in a house in NY vs Charlotte. Seems like Ray is netting less than if he signed with Charlotte last year.

http://swz.salary.com/costoflivingwizard/layoutscripts/coll_result.asp?presentsalary=6000000.00&presenthomemetrocode=32&presentworkmetrocode=32&newhomemetrocode=119&newworkmetrocode=119&x=35&y=6

eleaf14

07-09-2010, 11:54 PM

Thanks Ray! My favorite Felton memory was his lofty promise of the playoffs coming into his first year. It showed his desire to be a success. Regardless of when it happened...eventually he was the one to get us there. NY is getting the ultimate teammate, a class act off the court, and one of the toughest dudes i've seen play at this level. Thanks for helping us get there!

http://i202.photobucket.com/albums/aa170/eleaf14/25689_352252306897_503511897_433656.jpg

teej

07-10-2010, 12:01 AM

Great memories Ray. I can't say there's one definitive favorite, but all the buzzer beaters, the grit, and being a good guy.

For the only time in my life, I'll be rooting for the Knicks...give 'em hell, Ray!

BobcatsAllDay

07-10-2010, 12:08 AM

Man this is a tough one. He was my favorite Bobcat so it's hard to see him go. I wish him all the best in NY. I always wondered what he would look like in an uptempo offense so I guess I will see. I'm sticking w/ the Bobcats though, they have really won me over the last couple years and I'm ready to see what DJ can bring to the table. DJ you have a serious opportunity in front of you, this should be your theme song for this year http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xFYQQPAOz7Y

ammofan

07-10-2010, 12:37 AM

Thanks for the years Ray! We appreciate all your hustle, hard work and spirit throughout! Have a great time in NY!

x2pacalypse

07-10-2010, 12:58 AM

well all my dreams are crushed...honestly i think we can look back on this decision next year and we will regret it when we win like 30 games

ammofan

07-10-2010, 01:04 AM

well all my dreams are crushed...honestly i think we can look back on this decision next year and we will regret it when we win like 30 games

We wont be bad......but If we are this is gonna be the first thing I remember that we could've done to help us

With that, I trust lB, MJ and Rod and I think they will bring in another PG who is better than Ray and ultimatley we will eb better w/o Ray

CatNation

07-10-2010, 01:16 AM

Thanks for not shitting on us on ESPN Ray:biggrin:

DY_nasty

07-10-2010, 02:33 AM

Thanks for not shitting on us on ESPN Ray:biggrin:
LOL

Seriously...

TheBeagle

07-10-2010, 02:36 AM

Gave the guy all sorts of hell from his second year on, but still awkward to see him leave though I knew it was coming. Everthing that made Raymond likeable (aside from quarterbacking a Tarheel championship! ;)) was his substance. There is no style in his game....he's maybe had 5 or 6 dribble breakdowns of a defender that left me ooohing and aahhing but he was very "meat and potatoes" and struggled to keep from making inane TOs, missing clutch FTs, finishing at the rim, making the smart play, etc., but he gave it his all, gave no excuses, loved the city, state, team, fans and is an immaculate human being...relatively speaking.

Really just too much to put into words...I mean, hell, as with other Tarheel fans here, he's been the PG on the teams we pull for since 2002. Needless to say, it will be weird to not have Raymond Felton on my team.

Good luck, God bless, and you know and we know your home is always here in the Carolinas! Give them Yanks the what for, Raymond!

spectre

07-10-2010, 06:45 AM

Nice to see you back Beagle!

http://www.nypost.com/p/sports/knicks/point_ing_forward_fmKmCjhbB50DEAjdEpxABJ?CMP=OTC-rss&FEEDNAME=

A source said Felton is coming on a three-year deal worth $8.5 million per year, with the final year not guaranteed. Most are saying the years hasn't been firmed up yet.

I also didn't realize Felton had been coached by D'Antoni before.

http://www.hoopsdaily.com/content/new-york-knicks-reach-agreement-principle-free-agent-point-guard-raymond-felton

The deal could be finalized as early as Saturday. Three days ago, Duhon signed a free agent contract with Orlando.
Felton's contract is believed to be a three-year deal worth approximately $25 million, which doesn't preclude the Knicks from pursuing Chris Paul or Tony Parker next summer. The Knicks were also considering Luke Ridnour, but felt that Felton was the better player to go along with Amar'e Stoudemire and Danilo Gallinari.
"We talked to (Felton) and we feel like we're close," Walsh said during a conference call to announce the sign-and-trade involving David Lee. "We have no contract right now. Until we get a contract, in my world it's not done."

CatMan72

07-10-2010, 08:13 AM

On a personal level I'm sorry to see Ray go, he used to live in my neighborhood and his parent still do, so I often see him driving by my house and when I waived he always waived back and smiled, which I thought was pretty unique for an NBA guy. He lived in one of the smallest houses in my neighborhood and bought his parents a much bigger house... says something about the guy.

Hey may or may not have been what we needed but he always gave 100% here. Best of luck Ray!

Felton for Prez

07-10-2010, 08:35 AM

Sigh.

Guess I need a new screen name.

jdsingar

07-10-2010, 09:09 AM

It's sad to see Felts go. He may not have been the best PG, but he gave it his all every game. You could tell he wanted to be out there. I hope for all the best in New York.

etothet

07-10-2010, 09:10 AM

I became a Bobcat fan when Ray came in 2005. I will miss seeing him in a Charlotte Bobcat uniform. I don't think it was a good idea for us to let him go but I wish him the best of luck in New York. If he continues to improve as he did last year, he will be a good addition for the knicks.

murphman

07-10-2010, 09:43 AM

Thank you Ray for everything. Good luck to you

etothet

07-10-2010, 09:45 AM

3 years 21 mil

Looks like 3 years 25 mil.

http://www.hoopsdaily.com/content/new-york-knicks-reach-agreement-principle-free-agent-point-guard-raymond-felton

murphman

07-10-2010, 09:57 AM

Does anyone feel like me that if Ray accepted last year's offer from us when it is all said and done, he comes out about the same?

Fred Williamson

07-10-2010, 09:57 AM

I'm so glad he's gone.

:kingofpop:

Scottley Crue

07-10-2010, 10:23 AM

Does anyone feel like me that if Ray accepted last year's offer from us when it is all said and done, he comes out about the same?
Well, if it's 3 years at 25 mil, he does better per year than the 6/42 that we reportedly offered. However, 42 is still more than 25, so I'm sure he's still thinking about that.

Either way, it will be a little odd to not see Raymond in a Bobcats uniform. His talent was always a source of conversation and/or question, but his heart and dedication never were in doubt. Add to that that any employer in any line of work would love to have someone who handles himself like Raymond representing their company and you've got someone who will be missed.

Demon DeaCat

07-10-2010, 10:55 AM

From a basketball standpoint I think this was the right move, but it is going to be weird not seeing him in a Bobcats uniform next year. He really did epitomize what this franchise was all about. Like everyone else, I appreciate his passion for the game and the contribution he made during our rise to respectability. And while it didn't prove to be his finest moment, I'm glad he got to experience the playoffs with us.

He seems like a very decent guy and he has my utmost respect. That's saying a lot from a deac talking about a heel. I wish him nothing but the best in NY.

SWedd523

07-10-2010, 11:05 AM

As the leader of my two favorite teams for the greater part of this decade, it's going to be weird to see you leave. I wish you the best of luck in your time up north (expect when playing us).

OT: How long until MJ publishes a letter calling Ray a coward and saying he quit against the Magic and let Jameer ream him all series? :g:

BlockParty

07-10-2010, 11:32 AM

No surprise here from Raymond speaking highly of the support of the Charltote fans, wishing his old teammates well....

http://www.youtube.com/v/lfYv-OUfzRw

Brown'sTown

07-10-2010, 12:11 PM

I'm so glad he's gone.

:kingofpop:

And the fact that your avatar is Gerald in a Duke jersey tells us why you're so glad

ND22

07-10-2010, 12:15 PM

No surprise here from Raymond speaking highly of the support of the Charltote fans, wishing his old teammates well....

http://www.youtube.com/v/lfYv-OUfzRw

I'm happy for him and I hope he excels there, New York won't be easy to win over but I hope he can get it done...unless of course he's playing against us. :p

CatNation

07-10-2010, 12:45 PM

And the fact that your avatar is Gerald in a Duke jersey tells us why you're so glad

he prefers rooting for scrubs? :g:

Wolfpackbobcat

07-10-2010, 05:09 PM

cellar to the knicks???? okay.

ohara831

07-10-2010, 09:52 PM

Well, ESPN has 3 years for $25 Mil. Charlotte was never going to pay over $8 mil per year.

amour217

07-10-2010, 11:58 PM

Best of luck to you, Ray, I'm really gonna miss you. Thanks for being a class act and giving your all.

And most of all, thanks for sitting down with me and doing this:

kIl_hx64sTM

Dcarnys

07-11-2010, 12:07 AM

Good luck Ray!!!
I consider the Knicks one of my other favorite teams in the NBA so Im cool with seeing him leave. I hope he does good.

CatNation

07-11-2010, 01:00 AM

Best of luck to you, Ray, I'm really gonna miss you. Thanks for being a class act and giving your all.

And most of all, thanks for sitting down with me and doing this:

kIl_hx64sTM

lmao how have i never seen this?!?

ziggy

07-11-2010, 06:26 AM

Best of luck to you, Ray, I'm really gonna miss you. Thanks for being a class act and giving your all.

And most of all, thanks for sitting down with me and doing this:

It still amazes me that you didn't burst into tears laughing when he said the "Fine Ham Biscuit" line :biggrin:

rsxnova

07-11-2010, 05:02 PM

Raymond, please leave us with a final gift of a S&T for Tony Dougles.

Thanks for the pic and auto last year!

ohara831

07-11-2010, 05:51 PM

So if I understand right, his contract is a 2 year $15.8 mil contract. A 3rd year is a team option and the terms not yet hashed out? Wow. If he really did reject a 6 year deal from Charlotte last off season for something in the range of $42 mil, then he has got to be shaking his head at that move. I think that was clearly now the wrong move, especially if he really did want to stay in Charlotte. Maybe there is more to it, but that looks like a gamble that did not pay off.

CatNation

07-11-2010, 05:57 PM

theyre just using him as a 2 year rental to wait out for CP3 :(

raymond deserves better. ill be surprised if he doesnt fire his agent

Chef

07-11-2010, 06:04 PM

Best of luck to you, Ray, I'm really gonna miss you. Thanks for being a class act and giving your all.

And most of all, thanks for sitting down with me and doing this:

kIl_hx64sTM

was he aware of the joke or this site? if he was it is even better.