View Full Version : Virtually dismantling the best Bobcats team in history? After one season?
Veteran_Picksetter
07-12-2010, 01:40 AM
Word is, it is only a matter of time before starting PF Boris Diaw is dealt.
We've already lost our starting PG in favor of putting faith in a high-risk, mostly backup PF.
We currently have one PG on the entire roster, who's coming off of a rather poor season.
Anybody uneasy about all of this?
And before someone goes "We HAD to do something! The rest of the league was making big moves!.....
....Remember, for every Miami getting better, there is a Cleveland getting worse.
CatNation
07-12-2010, 01:48 AM
The roster we had in the playoffs will never be anything better than a 7-8 seed. We aren't really blowing anything up, we offered fair market value for Felton, he chose to leave, and ended up worse off anyway. I don't think anyone on this board is that infatuated with Boris either. The core of this team is Jackson and Wallace, as long as we have them, we're good.
ChuckHayes69
07-12-2010, 08:01 AM
Yeah, we are hardly blowing up the roster. We lost Felton to FA and are trading Diaw for Lux Tax/Cap Flexibility that we will probably use for a replacement to him. The FO/Larry Brown clearly see Tyrus Thomas as the starter going forward, and not a "mostly backup". I like these moves. If we are ever going to be a good team, not back-end of the playoff joke to get swept by the real teams, we have to get out of the bad contracts like diaw, diop, etc. and get some flexibility to surround jack and gerald with talent.
polarcat
07-12-2010, 08:55 AM
I can only echo the same comments as the last 2 posters, and am not worried at all about our moves. Yeah, we didn't make any big FA splash, but that's because we couldn't financially. I love Felton's intangibles but he is an above average starting pg, and not an elite game changing pg. I will personally drive Diaw to the airport if need be because his lack of consistency and softness is nothing this team needs moving forward. I'm actually looking forward to seeing what DJ can do running the show without having to look over his shoulder at Felts and having the coach's confidence in him. A top-10 pick should be able to start by year 3 and hopefully he will be ready to roll. I do believe we will pick up a fringe starting/back-up pg that can start if DJ falters, but that is yet to be seen. I'm more happy with the fact that Meow is gone and T2 can be the starting pf for our team. This line-up is still capable of being a 7-8 seed in the East.
ohara831
07-12-2010, 09:52 AM
Larry and MJ made moves to get this team into the Playoffs. So I have to fall back and lean on the ILBIT motto.
ajbry
07-12-2010, 09:53 AM
Not trying to diminish the other players, but CatNation and ChuckHayes69 are dead on.
The two stars are still here, as is the HOF coach. Re-working the roster around those three in the best way possible is extremely important.
ammofan
07-12-2010, 10:18 AM
We are not dismantiling our team. As ajbry said, we still have our bestplayers. We are getting rid/trying to get rid of the players that demand more money than they are worth(Diaw, Chandler, Felton).
There is a clear difference between dismantling your team and improving it based around the CBA and NBA rules.
Zoolander
07-12-2010, 11:37 AM
A lot of teams in the east were setting up last season for this offseason. In other words, teams were dumping salary, lowering the quality of players on their respective teams to go after one or two of the big three FA. That really lowered the quality of competition in the east this year, but now these teams are improving themselves ten-fold. We have to improve too. Staying put now and reverting back to obscurity would be professional suicide.
dvdbumpus
07-12-2010, 11:39 AM
Have to agree. This is 1 small step back to take 2 steps forward. We were never going to make it close to a championship with our roster we had, and LB believes in TT and I do too. We also had no chance of making any signings or significant trade with our cap the way it was.
After all is said and done, I expect to see these changes:
1. New starting PG
2. Young backup C with potential to be a starter. Will probably back up Nazr, or some other veteran.
3. Backup PF, probably a veteran. Nick Collison anybody?
4. Another high risk, high reward kind of guy in the lineup.
Toocool
07-12-2010, 01:36 PM
And by keeping our team what will happen? Sure we'll make the playoffs again, but we would be a 7-8 seed team again. I like what we've done. Clearing cap with trading Diaw, letting hardworking players start instead (TT) and although I wanted to keep Felton, perhaps it is time for DJ to really shine.
With the SL gone by, we've also seen the improvement Hendo, UPS and Lexy have made. So now we should have also have a reliable bench and those guys could probably come in 10-15 mins a game and contribute.
For me personally, we had to do this. Sure we might fail and blow up, but it's at least worth a shot.
azfollower
07-12-2010, 03:14 PM
I especially like what the FO is doing this offseason because as of right now it seems like LB is finally gonna give some of our young talent a chance to shine. While I'm sad we lost Felton, I think this could be a good offseason to build off for the future.
Fred Williamson
07-12-2010, 03:19 PM
2. Young backup C with potential to be a starter.
who? Diop?:confused:
BobCatsFanInTx
07-12-2010, 04:02 PM
I believe there are post on this forum where some were belittling TT and saying they doubted his ability to take over for Diaw should he leave or be demoted based on TT's time in Chicago. I always said I would prefer to base Tyrus's signs of being quite good while in Charlotte were more than enough for me to trust his role as starter on our team this coming season. I am glad to see others find him worth the "risk" of getting the starting nod.
As far as the Bobcats making a few minor moves to improve the team that seems somewhat necessary. I would have preferred that our Bobcats got something for Raymond in a sign and trade but it is not the end of the world. I don't see anybody being better than Raymond in any moves our Bobcats may make but I can see a replacement being as good. DJ might himself fill that roll. That would be great considering the faith the team put in him.
I think we'll be good enough to be 7 or 8 again this year with room to pick up someone good and a pick next year as well as young, developing talent in UPS, TT, and DJ (maybe). If we don't make room and get a pick we can get better than we are, IMO so we kinda had to keep tweaking.
Assuming this stuff goes down.
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