The Kinder Gentler Official Rumblings Thread

[ziggy]

Lets give it another try.

[Black]

Source: The Charlotte Bobcats will play 41 home games next season, and will likely play 41 games on the road.

[Proudiddy]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=my_6pS-FU6Q

[ziggy]

you guys are hilarious.

[x2pacalypse]

well i think its safe to say at this point nothing else is happening until tomorrow, if anything

[bing!]

It's already 'tomorrow' here and I can assure you that no shit is going down.

[Ghost Kat]

Ok, Is it to off topic to say I had a dream that Zombie Micheal Jackson was in my room last night doing the thriller dance?

While he was there he said the Bobcats are trying to trade for CP3.

[TattoodCats4life]

Two things... One more likely, one is "throw shit, does it stick?"

http://www.hoopsvibe.com/nba-news-and-rumors/articles/103981-rumor-wolves-signing-ridnour-sending-sessions-to-bobcats

http://bleacherreport.com/articles/420314-chris-paul-to-charlotte-could-a-deal-be-in-the-works

[K1NGofAKR0N]

Very sorry if this link was already mentioned... http://bleacherreport.com/articles/420314-chris-paul-to-charlotte-could-a-deal-be-in-the-works

[ziggy]

Ok, Is it to off topic to say I had a dream that Zombie Micheal Jackson was in my room last night doing the thriller dance?

While he was there he said the Bobcats are trying to trade for CP3.

Sounds legitimate to me :g:

[K1NGofAKR0N]

i would love to have chris paul but would we have to trade all our young guys plus geral? i wud rather not do both. i like hendo and ups. mayb trade dj, gerald, dampier, diaw, or najera?

[ND22]

This Chris Paul to Charlotte stuff needs to stop unless it has legitimacy, teasing us like this is not cool.

[CatNation]

This Chris Paul to Charlotte stuff needs to stop unless it has legitimacy, teasing us like this is not cool.


but some guy on a blog said!!!!

[dnbman]

i would love to have chris paul but would we have to trade all our young guys plus geral? i wud rather not do both. i like hendo and ups. mayb trade dj, gerald, dampier, diaw, or najera?

If we traded Paul-- which I'm imagining as completely hypothetical at this point-- it would be for cap space, money, and picks. I don't think NO is interested in exchange of talent, as Paul is clearly the better talent. Instead, they'd be wanting to reduce payroll in order to sell the franchise. The sale of the franchise is really the only reason this is even a conversation right now, as the Hornets have him locked up for a couple of more years.

[dnbman]

I'm sad that peace wasn't brought to this board by Lady Cat Jordan playing the role of Pokahontas. A simple thread closing does not have the same long term impact.

[SirBobcat]

We have traded for Paul...

http://userserve-ak.last.fm/serve/_/77469/Sean+Paul.jpg

[dnbman]

http://fullhomelydivinity.org/salem/Icon%20of%20Paul/Paul-icon.jpg

Just give me the Light.

[ND22]

PtO mothafuckas

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/07/08/article-0-0A57726C000005DC-900_468x332.jpg

[dvdbumpus]

If CP3 ever came to Charlotte I would second the whole jizzing in pants idea. Mark it Down.

[blazenheat09]

Marked down...I think we all would

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VLnWf1sQkjY

[rsxnova]

Honestly, moving CP3 for a player of GWall caliper should be considered a good move for them. He would fill a great hole for them(on a great contract) and he would usher up the coming of Collison.

[dvdbumpus]

Honestly, moving CP3 for a player of GWall caliper should be considered a good move for them. He would fill a great hole for them(on a great contract) and he would usher up the coming of Collison.

It would also save George Shinn tons of money..becuase we know he likes that.

[Black]

It would also save George Shinn tons of money..becuase we know he likes that.

and cheerleaders

[stun704]

I suprised myself today for not being the one harassing the rumor monger/spewing hate, but it is not even worth my time. This is not going to happen.

Let me guess, im just out of the loop. It will be reported tommorow. Or the next day or the next day or the next day or the next day or the next day. Lets stop fixating on a guy we probably cant get and focus on people we might actually be getting (SESSIONS!).
Sessions is a waste of cap space, Livngston/Augustin/Collins is adequte for PG (if we don't trade for CP3) we shouldn't waste dampiers contract on a PG that can't break Minnys lineup IMO, and the (pessimistic people) should be taking this stance of just ignoring the situation instead of harassing the reporters..

[BETCATS]

Sessions is a waste of cap space, Livngston/Augustin/Collins is adequte for PG (if we don't trade for CP3) we shouldn't waste dampiers contract on a PG that can't break Minnys lineup IMO, and the (pessimistic people) should be taking this stance of just ignoring the situation instead of harassing the reporters..
Sessions is better than our 3 current point guards combined. His game could use some fine tunning, but he can play. It is not his fault Skiles hated him when he was on the Bucks and Kahn threw a huge contract that he would be a fool for not accepting to go to the L-Wolves. He is better and his sub-par play last year is from lack of minutes and lack of a supporting cast when he was on the floor (Al Jeff was injured).

[SWedd523]

Keep the discussion on trade movement guys. We've already closed the first thread due to the spat with RoF. Please let the moderators do their jobs.



Back on topic now. Somebody on RGM posted some twitter links that claimed we were in talks to trade Crash for B Roy. Is that something you guys would approve of?

[stun704]

Keep the discussion on trade movement guys. We've already closed the first thread due to the spat with RoF. Please let the moderators do their jobs.



Back on topic now. Somebody on RGM posted some twitter links that claimed we were in talks to trade Crash for B Roy. Is that something you guys would approve of?

Yeah i would approve of it, but i doubt it would happen, I rather go for melo and extend them both; it would be a new rivarly, Bobcats & Heat, The Marketed riviarly stern tried to brew up when they both were drafted would be reborn, the rivarly between Melo and Bron

[BETCATS]

Somebody on RGM posted some twitter links that claimed we were in talks to trade Crash for B Roy. Is that something you guys would approve of?
Considering we couldve drafted Roy and had both right now, no. Wallace as a symbol is more valuble than Roy as a player. Wallace as a player is no scrub in comparison either. We have Jackson, we have Henderson, we have Carrol im happy with our shooting guard depth.

[SWedd523]

Melo is definitely a better player and would make trading Crash more palatable. But I definitely wouldn't be mad if Crash for Roy was the only move we made. Just slide Jack over and bam! Hello 50 wins.

[ALong13]

Keep the discussion on trade movement guys. We've already closed the first thread due to the spat with RoF. Please let the moderators do their jobs.



Back on topic now. Somebody on RGM posted some twitter links that claimed we were in talks to trade Crash for B Roy. Is that something you guys would approve of?

I like Roy, but not for Wallace. Roy is probably a better scorer and younger, but Wallace is a better rebounder, shot blocker and arguably a better teammate when it comes to sharing the ball. Wallace is also a big part of this team and has a huge following in the area, I think more bad would come out of trading him for Roy than good.

[Cats4lif3]

I don't think Wallace will be traded for cp3....do I think he will be a bobcat opening night I'm 70 30 yes. But I do think cp3 will also be a cat and that's an 80 20 gut feeling

[CatNation]

Roy doesn't want to play here, Wallace is the heart of soul of the franchise.

[stun704]

Roy doesn't want to play here, Wallace is the heart of soul of the franchise.
What makes you say that? Charlotte is a better city then Portland. And There isn't a Gm alive with the 3rd pick wouldn't have taken Ammo in that draft, he was way too hyped. dude was hyped as the next coming of larry bird for crying out loud, blame the scouts

[CatNation]

What makes you say that? Charlotte is a better city then Portland. And There isn't a Gm alive with the 3rd pick wouldn't have taken Ammo in that draft, he was way too hyped. dude was hyped as the next coming of larry bird for crying out loud, blame the scouts

Roy refused to workout for us prior to that draft.

[stun704]

Btw I don't know if any of yall caught this, but when we played the Magic in the playoffs, CP3 was there with MJ, and said this : http://twitter.com/Oneandonlycp3/status/12777649623

[stun704]

Roy refused to workout for us prior to that draft.
Well F him then, we don't need him anyway

[rsxnova]

On a side note, the cats are looking into signing Hughes.

[Fred Williamson]

Sessions is better than our 3 current point guards combined.

Sessions is not better than Livingston. Sessions can't shoot, is nothing more than an average defender and his scoring also average at most. While Livingston is a 6'7" point guard who can easily post up opponent guards and smoke them with his post game. He has a nice midrange game and way better court vision than Sessions. Hell, Sessions couldn't even outplay Nate Robinson 2.0 (Flynn), what makes you think he's better than Livingston, let alone DJ?

[CatNation]

Until another move happens DJ is starting and Livingston is the backup. Mainly because he isn't medically cleared to even play back to backs and he can't practice nearly as much as other players.

[Dr. Blotter]

If we trade Wallace...... I dunno man, I don't care who we get, Wallace makes the Cats for me, he is exciting to watch, its not the same as just winning and being a contender, the Bobcats could lose and the game would still be exciting because Wallace pulled some awesome shit. I do not want to see Wallace somewhere else.

[JGib23]

Until another move happens DJ is starting and Livingston is the backup. Mainly because he isn't medically cleared to even play back to backs and he can't practice nearly as much as other players.

? he played in back to back games a few times last season for the Wizards- the latest of which he played 82 minutes scored 40 points and dished 14 assists against Boston & Atl b2b .. r u confusing him with D Miles?

[CatNation]

If we trade Wallace...... I dunno man, I don't care who we get, Wallace makes the Cats for me, he is exciting to watch, its not the same as just winning and being a contender, the Bobcats could lose and the game would still be exciting because Wallace pulled some awesome shit. I do not want to see Wallace somewhere else.

Especially not to a Paul and Okafor less Hornet team. Thats just messed up. Playing AGAINST Crash might make me cry...

[Cats4lif3]

think if Wallace is traded it won't be to new orleans

[stun704]

Lol there gotta be a way to trade for CP3, and keep Crash, BTW if this has any validity, it would mean we aren't getting Okafor back, isn't there a rule that a player cannot be traded back to his former team under a years time?

[CatNation]

? he played in back to back games a few times last season for the Wizards- the latest of which he played 82 minutes scored 40 points and dished 14 assists against Boston & Atl b2b .. r u confusing him with D Miles?

Nah just got it from here

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2010/07/14/1562396/source-bobcats-will-sign-shaun.html

doesn't specifically say back to backs but does say he is unable to play every day. So either way I doubt he would be the starter. You want your starting lineup to be your most cohesive unit on the floor, and we all know how LB is with his point guards.

Also I didn't get a chance to see him on the Wiz but I can imagine being 6'7 with a bum knee that he would probably get burned worse than DJ by most of the starting PGs in the east, theres some quick guys out there, rose, rondo, jameer etc

[Zoolander]

I'm I missing something? CP3 is coming off a season ending ACL tear correct? Will he be able to come back to Pre-injury CP3 form? Even before the injury Chris, can I call him Chris? Chris didn't seem to be playing all that well. The Hornets O appeared stagnant. When Collison took over they looked much more explosive. I'm just saying....... :confused:

[stun704]

I'm I missing something? CP3 is coming off a season ending ACL tear correct? Will he be able to come back to Pre-injury CP3 form? Even before the injury Chris, can I call him Chris? Chris didn't seem to be playing all that well. The Hornets O appeared stagnant. When Collison took over they looked much more explosive. I'm just saying....... :confused:
Are you really doubtin The Apostle Paul?

[TyHill]

If it requires G Force to get CP3 Id have to do it as much as I like Gerald. CP3 is a franchise player..cant let that go.

[ammofan]

Ya know I have thought about CP3's injury too. What if we give up our young talent, an he cant stay healthey for the whole year?

[Clay]

CP3 had a meniscus tear - way, way, WAY different than an ACL tear.

I had a fairly severe meniscus tear and I was back on the court in 2 months. Paul's health shouldn't be a huge concern.

As for Sessions, I'd rather they just cut Dampier and save the $ than trading for Session.

[dav7z]

I've been thinking about the signing of Livingston. His contract puts us at 75 milion.
If we take the full 13 milion [cut] Damp we siting at 62 milion. That leaves less than eight million for investment. At most so we don't have the money most think.

We need one more solid big Brad Miller is my choice thair being realistic.
A combo guard would fit well all so Flip is my choice thair.
Signing a rookie point might benefit all so , Whitch i would pick up in training camp.
Theo might be a nice insurance signing all so.
We then might have a little wiggle room about 3 milion.

[ammofan]

Everyone needs to stop worrying about the money because we dont know what kind of deals the Cats may pull off. Its not up to us anyway.....

[Chef]

Melo is definitely a better player and would make trading Crash more palatable. But I definitely wouldn't be mad if Crash for Roy was the only move we made. Just slide Jack over and bam! Hello 50 wins.

i posted this the other day in the middle of the hysteria that was overtaking the planet. it may have gotten lost or wasn't all that exciting to talk about at the time, so i will try again.

honest question, assuming he would resign here, would you trade crash for melo (hypothetically straight up)? my gut reaction is hell yes. but, crash gives us most of the production of melo (more rebounding, less scoring, less shooting) but at almost 8 mil less per season. assuming he signs for the max is melo really worth twice as much as crash?

[GoBobs]

I think if we could make a move that made us a contender the LT would not be a huge stumbling block. Say we did:

Damp/Nazr/DJ/Gerald Henderson/Derrick Brown/future 1st

for

Paul/Oak/Posey

That would leave us at 80,370,000. 10 Million over the tax with an actual payout of 90,370,000, but we would sell out every night and contend.

with a lineup of:

Paul/Livingston
Jackson/Carroll
Wallace/Posey/McGuire
Tyrus Thomas/Diaw/Edwardo
Diop/Oak

[Chef]

I think if we could make a move that made us a contender the LT would not be a huge stumbling block. Say we did:

Damp/Nazr/DJ/Gerald Henderson/Derrick Brown/future 1st

for

Paul/Oak/Posey

That would leave us at 80,370,000. 10 Million over the tax with an actual payout of 90,370,000, but we would sell out every night and contend.

with a lineup of:

Paul/Livingston
Jackson/Carroll
Wallace/Posey/McGuire
Tyrus Thomas/Diaw/Edwardo
Diop/Oak

that team makes me drool. except dude, you are no talent scout. pretty certain mek would start of diop.

[GoBobs]

I think Oak would have more value to us dominating backup centers. Diop has a better chance of holding his own vs the really huge centers in the league like Dwight.

I think we would also play Diaw at center a lot with TT on the floor at power forward. Point center baby!

[Chef]

I think Oak would have more value to us dominating backup centers. Diop has a better chance of holding his own vs the really huge centers in the league like Dwight.

there is only one of those. the rest are guardable for mek.

[tondi]

I think if we could make a move that made us a contender the LT would not be a huge stumbling block. Say we did:

Damp/Nazr/DJ/Gerald Henderson/Derrick Brown/future 1st

for

Paul/Oak/Posey

That would leave us at 80,370,000. 10 Million over the tax with an actual payout of 90,370,000, but we would sell out every night and contend.

with a lineup of:

Paul/Livingston
Jackson/Carroll
Wallace/Posey/McGuire
Tyrus Thomas/Diaw/Edwardo
Diop/Oak

Even in that scenario, if we could move Diaw that would put us right back at the LT.

[SWedd523]

i posted this the other day in the middle of the hysteria that was overtaking the planet. it may have gotten lost or wasn't all that exciting to talk about at the time, so i will try again.

honest question, assuming he would resign here, would you trade crash for melo (hypothetically straight up)? my gut reaction is hell yes. but, crash gives us most of the production of melo (more rebounding, less scoring, less shooting) but at almost 8 mil less per season. assuming he signs for the max is melo really worth twice as much as crash?

Yes. I love Crash, but he's no clear #1 option, Melo is. I'd definitely make that trade.

[dav7z]

Even in that scenario, if we could move Diaw that would put us right back at the LT.

This team is not going to stay in the LT . No way

OK50 for Damp and DJ and Diaw for Collison and Posey . That might work . But thats about as good as it can get.

[CatNation]

This team is not going to stay in the LT . No way

OK50 for Damp and DJ and Diaw for Collison and Posey . That might work . But thats about as good as it can get.

you're crazy we're getting Paul and Melo the players have already been informed and its gonna be on ESPN any minute. trust me I have insider sources. :)

[Chef]

Yes. I love Crash, but he's no clear #1 option, Melo is. I'd definitely make that trade.

excellent way to put it. never thought of it as melo is #1 option. when i watch denver play, it's tough to pick out the #1 option.

[SWedd523]

To me, a #1 option is a guy who you can look at when nobody is scoring and just say, "Get me some buckets." And they're able to do it.

You can give Melo the ball, tell everyone else to move out of the way, and let him go to work. That's something that championship teams need. If we had that, we'd be closer to contending.

[x2pacalypse]

today has been pretty dead so far in terms of rumors :(

maybe its the calm before the storm?

[Black]

Sources: Stephen Jackson for Diana Taurasi.

[Cats4lif3]

I hope so. That's one thing we can rely on all of bobcats trades have been unexpected in the past year or so

[x2pacalypse]

Sources: Stephen Jackson for Diana Taurasi.

i heard hermann, joe amechi, and baskerville holmes trading cards are being thrown in the deal also

[Black]

i heard hermann, joe amechi, and baskerville holmes trading cards are being thrown in the deal also

word is MJ is thinking about backing out because the Amechi card has a worn edge....stay tuned to Bonnell's blog for the latest

[blazenheat09]

Just found this over on Realgm. If Pritchard ends up with the Hornets, you can garuantee he is going to do whatever it takes to bring in great players around Paul. The chance of him being traded is greatly reduced in my opinion. What do you guys think?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68175/20100715/pritchard_could_be_leading_candidate_for_hornets_g m_job/

[stun704]

Just found this over on Realgm. If Pritchard ends up with the Hornets, you can garuantee he is going to do whatever it takes to bring in great players around Paul. The chance of him being traded is greatly reduced in my opinion. What do you guys think?

http://www.realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68175/20100715/pritchard_could_be_leading_candidate_for_hornets_g m_job/
I agree except bower was fired because he wouldn't trade CP3.

[CatNation]

I agree except bower was fired because he wouldn't trade CP3.

dunno how this got flipped around but I've seen at least a couple people say it

http://hornetsreport.com/HRForums/showthread.php?t=61291

its the other way around, his recent WILLINGNESS to trade CP3 is why he was removed.

[stun704]

dunno how this got flipped around but I've seen at least a couple people say it

http://hornetsreport.com/HRForums/showthread.php?t=61291

its the other way around, his recent WILLINGNESS to trade CP3 is why he was removed.
Thats what was reported, but why would ownership admit that they WANT to trade CP3? Bower stated many times before he got fired that he would NOT trade CP3, and given the history that CP3 hasn't been traded, i would say one side is lying. :g:

[Chef]

I agree except bower was fired because he wouldn't trade CP3.

no way shinn pay what pritchard will fetch. imo he is the most valuable FA left. i thought the word was he is going to wait at least a year before jumping back in. then again, my inside source is mark stein on twitter.

[CatNation]

Thats what was reported, but why would ownership admit that they WANT to trade CP3? Bower stated many times before he got fired that he would NOT trade CP3, and given the history that CP3 hasn't been traded, i would say one side is lying. :g:

He might say to the press that he doesn't want to trade CP3 because he is a representative of the team, but we don't know what was said behind closed doors.

anyway I wrote a half apology/half explanation/half opinion about yesterdays situation on here http://www.rufusonfire.com/2010/7/15/1571400/extending-an-olive-branch

[ohara831]

He might say to the press that he doesn't want to trade CP3 because he is a representative of the team, but we don't know what was said behind closed doors.

anyway I wrote a half apology/half explanation/half opinion about yesterdays situation on here http://www.rufusonfire.com/2010/7/15/1571400/extending-an-olive-branch

Read that post. Very well said and I was glad someone sent an "olive branch" out. Well done! But I thought that was Proudiddy? Are you under both names? Threw me off.

[SWedd523]

Proudiddy and CatNation, I'm proud of you guys for reaching out like that on the site. Let this be the end of the arguing and hopefully nothing but good comes from it. :g:

[CatNation]

no sorry the original post wasn't mine haha. I wrote a comment underneath it. It wasn't quite as nice as the original posters but I did apologize for some of my comments I made about the guys on this board. mostly it was a misunderstanding, but I still criticize the guy for posting the ESPN done deal thing. I hope we can all get along as fans though. I had similar anger towards ballwhore. GO BOBCATS

[blazenheat09]

Speaking of ballwhore...dude has been mad quite over the past few weeks :g:

Must be getting nervous that his brother-in-law is going to lose his starting job or is on the way out haha

[stun704]

Hornets try to purposely fail Luther heads physical, Weird? maybe they know they have a solid back up pg coming in :g:

[krazyrumpshaker]

Im no expert at the trade machines, and im not sure if someone has already done this, but it seems like alot of these rumors are talking about either cp or brandon roy. I tried to get it to work out but couldnt. i would assume it would involve moving Dampier, Diaw, Wallace and fillers. Can anyone show me how Paul & Roy both end up in Charlotte on the trade machine. Im sure it would have to be mulitple trades to pull it off.

[CatNation]

Hornets try to purposely fail Luther heads physical, Weird? maybe they know they have a solid back up pg coming in :g:

Yeah I saw that...thats 10000x dirtier than anything MJ pulled in the Raptors trade because now you're messing with a guys chances to get work elsewhere

[CatNation]

Im no expert at the trade machines, and im not sure if someone has already done this, but it seems like alot of these rumors are talking about either cp or brandon roy. I tried to get it to work out but couldnt. i would assume it would involve moving Dampier, Diaw, Wallace and fillers. Can anyone show me how Paul & Roy both end up in Charlotte on the trade machine. Im sure it would have to be mulitple trades to pull it off.

Roy wasn't the rumor I think it was Melo or something else that was apparently >Roy. I imagine we would have to get Shinn drunk to convince him to somehow trade us Paul without giving up Crash, then moving Crash+whatever assets we have left after the paul trade (which realistically would be none) for melo/whoever

[Cats4lif3]

Im no expert at the trade machines, and im not sure if someone has already done this, but it seems like alot of these rumors are talking about either cp or brandon roy. I tried to get it to work out but couldnt. i would assume it would involve moving Dampier, Diaw, Wallace and fillers. Can anyone show me how Paul & Roy both end up in Charlotte on the trade machine. Im sure it would have to be mulitple trades to pull it off.

I think people jumped to conclusions I dnt beleive it's cp3 an roy but I don't know who the second player is besides cp3

I remember someone saying is it Brandon Roy to go with cp3 or as that too dirty and ourday replied think dirtier.

I know they also mentioned quite a few 1st rounders.
Either way I hope thir right

[Chef]

I think people jumped to conclusions I dnt beleive it's cp3 an roy but I don't know who the second player is besides cp3

I remember someone saying is it Brandon Roy to go with cp3 or as that too dirty and ourday replied think dirtier.

I know they also mentioned quite a few 1st rounders.
Either way I hope thir right

cp3 and roy wouldnt work well on the same team. both need the ball too much. now melo and cp3...

could there be any chance it is jax on the move and not wallace?

[Cats4lif3]

Too get melo it would have to be Wallace and picks and prospects.......both Jordan brand athletes

[amour217]

LB likes veterans right? So I'm willing to bet we sign Will Perdue and Alton Lister to shore up the front line...and maybe audition Shawn Kemp

[DY_nasty]

Hornets try to purposely fail Luther heads physical, Weird? maybe they know they have a solid back up pg coming in :g:
where did you see this?

[CatNation]

LB likes veterans right? So I'm willing to bet we sign Will Perdue and Alton Lister to shore up the front line...and maybe audition Shawn Kemp

bring the Plastic Man back to Charlotte!

[TheBeagle]

LB likes veterans right? So I'm willing to bet we sign Will Perdue and Alton Lister to shore up the front line...and maybe audition Shawn Kemp My sources indicated Jon Konkak and Greg Kite as likely possibilities with a Derrick Coleman workout scheduled.

[Proudiddy]

My sources indicated Jon Konkak and Greg Kite as likely possibilities with a Derrick Coleman workout scheduled.

Any post with a Jon Konkak reference = WIN.

I see your Konkak, and I raise you a John Crotty.

[SWedd523]

I hear Tom Gugliotta isn't doing much these days, then we should call him up?

[SirBobcat]

I'll take Joe Wolf over any of those guys...

[bing!]

Rik, bloody, Smits

http://www.diamonddon.com/bios/Photos/rik_smits-1.jpg

He's still strapping.

[Black]

Teams recently having shown an interest in free-agent forward Anthony Tolliver are Charlotte, Minnesota and New York. (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)

http://twitter.com/christomasson

he'd be a solid backup for Tyrus if we can move Diaw

[teej]

http://twitter.com/christomasson

he'd be a solid backup for Tyrus if we can move Diaw

Tolliver + Najera + McGuire + Darius Miles...not much faith in UPS, eh?

[ammofan]

Tolliver? Oh my lord.....

We better do more than these guys for the summer: Dampier, Carroll, Najera, Mcguire, Livingston and Tolliver.....lololololol

Thats alot of new players with about the total talent of me.

[SWedd523]

For what it's worth, Tolliver put up 12/7/1 after being called up to GS last year.

[ALong13]

Tolliver + Najera + McGuire + Darius Miles...not much faith in UPS, eh?

Najera is the only I see getting any playing time. I expect UPS to see more time at SF this year. I don't see Miles making the team as he was horrible in summer league. McGuire will be a 13th, 14th, or 15th man...just added for depth and veteranship. Tolliver could see time though, but i dontsee him falling in Charlotte.

Edit: didn't know Miles was out due to injury...I just saw his statistics and it showed straight zeros, the game I watched didn't mention his injury either

[teej]

I don't see Miles making the team as he was horrible in summer league.

:confused:

Miles didn't play in SL due to his knee...

[ALong13]

:confused:

Miles didn't play in SL due to his knee...

Well that explains why he never played when I saw the box scores haha, I still don't see him on the team this year or doing much

[ammofan]

I dont see Miles making the team this year...

[ALong13]

I dont see Miles making the team this year...
Tony Parker to Charlotte? Not sure who this person is, but would be a veteran PG who'd have some experience and would be an interesting player who I think LB would love.


Bobcats could also be making this move for Tony Parker. The key will be getting a PG to sign an extension.
about 4 hours ago*from TweetDeck

http://mobile.twitter.com/rodimusprime/status/18626747257

[ohara831]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2010-nba-free-agent-update-bobcats-sign-shaun-livingston

Paragraph near the end indicates LB hinting at another trade to come.

[Black]

http://www.opposingviews.com/i/2010-nba-free-agent-update-bobcats-sign-shaun-livingston

Paragraph near the end indicates LB hinting at another trade to come.

that is more or less "some guys blog"....not interested in Ed Niser's opinion

also, Ed, if you read this


The Bobcats are still combing the free agent marking for a playmaker and the possibility of a trade happening still hangs in the balance.

might want to fix that

[ammofan]

Tony Parker to Charlotte? Not sure who this person is, but would be a veteran PG who'd have some experience and would be an interesting player who I think LB would love.



http://mobile.twitter.com/rodimusprime/status/18626747257

That would be freakin sick....TP ftw!

[CatNation]

http://twitter.com/LesPorter
@zdp5000 (http://twitter.com/zdp5000) It's very likely #Bobcats (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Bobcats) will cut or trade Dampier's contract before training camp. But they may hold onto him for deadline trade.

that makes no sense to me at all though. If we wanted a 13 mil expiring we would have just kept Chandler and not have hammer and najera weighing us down in the payroll

[nazsquad]

Thats what I dont get about this trade. IF we end up not trading Dampier and just cutting him, this was absolutely a stupid trade.

Right now we are in the luxury tax with the current players on our roster. We are somewhere around 77 million dollars. We wont be spending that type of money unless MJ is confident we have a special team.

Chandler could have netted us some decent talent around the trade-deadline. What team doesnt like a huge expiring contract. Not only do we not get anything in return we take on more salary in the next 2 years with Carroll and Najara

[Chef]

Tony Parker to Charlotte? Not sure who this person is, but would be a veteran PG who'd have some experience and would be an interesting player who I think LB would love.



http://mobile.twitter.com/rodimusprime/status/18626747257

would not want parker. too old to commit that much money to. he is on the downside of his career.

[UNCCatFan]

does anyone know how we can pull this of with the whole 30 day rule or whatever on dampier

[dvdbumpus]

would not want parker. too old to commit that much money to. he is on the downside of his career.

He's 28 years old? He also has an expiring contract. No way the Spurs trade him unless they want to waste Tim Duncan's final years ushering in the George Hill era....

[Ampsportsduo]

that makes no sense to me at all though. If we wanted a 13 mil expiring we would have just kept Chandler and not have hammer and najera weighing us down in the payroll

It makes sense to keep Dampier if nothing of value comes to fruition during this off-season because if a team was interested in making a trade close to the trade deadline, but not take back any salary or get under the luxury tax the Cats could be a facilitator to make that happen. Anything the Dampier contract nets (minus a bad contract) is better than waiving him.

As for the Bower/Paul/Hornets triangle, please read Ken Berger's column (http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/13638347/webers-decision-to-fire-gm-hurts-hornets-alienates-paul). Perhaps some people should stop jumping the gun because they read something one place and try to use it to discredit others.

"Now someone is trying to save face by blaming Bower's "mutual parting of ways" on his supposed desire to trade Paul, which is laughable. The only way Bower would've traded Paul this summer, rival executives say, was if there was a directive from ownership to do so for financial reasons."

[Ampsportsduo]

does anyone know how we can pull this of with the whole 30 day rule or whatever on dampier

It's 60 days that the Cats have to wait to trade him as part of a package. He can be traded by himself at any point. This can be circumvented by making two trades with a team that are essentially one trade.

[Muttley]

Something just occurred to me:

One drawback of any trade or signing where CP3 comes to Charlotte would mean many many years of "Charlotte Hornet Chris Paul..." Sports media would be getting that wrong at an even higher rate than they do right now.

I think I'd get over it, though.

[CatNation]

Forgot about this. As posted on RealGM, we are massively over the luxury tax right now. Any trade where we send Damp back and get MORE money coming in is pretty crazy. I don't think MJ wants to pay 20 mil+ in luxury tax, even for CP3. I doubt you could move Boris for straight cap relief but I guess it could be possible. I'm starting to think we are just gonna cut him and sign a couple more average players

[ammofan]

This is from @ZackBowring77
@Sluggy86 I am only cause I hear 'The Trade' for the Bobcats is gonna happen. It's suppose to happen today, but IDK! I can't sleep!

Its just soem random guy and he may be reading the same stuff we are but Its interesting to see stuff like that on twitter

[jam]

geez,,i have been always checking the forums but why in the world didn't even write even a single post for so long now?anyway I really hope we could get cp3 or any good point guard without giving up gw,,I maybe alone in this opinion but i think diaw is still valuable to the team,,he can play the undersized center or any position you could possibly think,,

[polarcat]

well, supposedly today is the day and by this time tomorrow we should know yay or nay on the blockbuster nuke deal. just scanning back over the past few days, we've seen:

- talk of cp3, brandon roy, emeka, carmelo and devin harris all linked to coming here.

- more and more rumors of cp3 being moved

- new orleans backing out of their luther head deal

- portland signing matthews to a very lucrative deal with fernandez and roy already there

- we sign livingston as a back-up with dj already on the roster

- we get dampier's contract and a back-up pf out of the deal with dallas

- we are rumored to be interested in pf anthony tolliver

- we make a deal with dallas that, if nothing more happens, looks like another assrape by our trading partner against us

obviously, it's a lot of connect-the-dots conspiracy theory thought, but sometimes, coincidences aren't just coincidences. i'm not getting my hopes up like a child on christmas eve, but i do feel like our roster is on the brink of changing for the better pretty soon. maybe not today or this week, but very soon.

[Scottley Crue]

well, supposedly today is the day and by this time tomorrow we should know yay or nay on the blockbuster nuke deal. just scanning back over the past few days, we've seen:

- talk of cp3, brandon roy, emeka, carmelo and devin harris all linked to coming here.

- more and more rumors of cp3 being moved

- new orleans backing out of their luther head deal

- portland signing matthews to a very lucrative deal with fernandez and roy already there

- we sign livingston as a back-up with dj already on the roster

- we get dampier's contract and a back-up pf out of the deal with dallas

- we are rumored to be interested in pf anthony tolliver

- we make a deal with dallas that, if nothing more happens, looks like another assrape by our trading partner against us

obviously, it's a lot of connect-the-dots conspiracy theory thought, but sometimes, coincidences aren't just coincidences. i'm not getting my hopes up like a child on christmas eve, but i do feel like our roster is on the brink of changing for the better pretty soon. maybe not today or this week, but very soon.
I feel the same way you do about this. Many of these moves and speculative moves have had an air of having a greater purpose. It may not happen today, but I feel within a few weeks the roster will be re-shaped. I have no doubt MJ has no desire whatsoever to put the current roster out on the floor once the season starts. And I don't think he'll have a problem paying the luxury tax if it means a strong, strong team. I just think he wouldn't want to pay it for the team as it was contstructed last year.

[spectre]

Chris Tomasson:
Free-agent forward Stephen Graham, with Charlotte last year, being looked at by Bobcats, Miami, Memphis and L.A. Clippers (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html). Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)

[Proudiddy]

Chris Tomasson: Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)

I don't know how I feel about bringing Stevie back. He did great for us, but I'm not sure if bringing him back will impede the progress of Hendo and UPS at the 2 and 3. The guy is well-worth the money and is a much better player than he's given credit for.

[ammofan]

I don't know how I feel about bringing Stevie back. He did great for us, but I'm not sure if bringing him back will impede the progress of Hendo and UPS at the 2 and 3. The guy is well-worth the money and is a much better player than he's given credit for.


I dont wnat him back....let him go to MIA and win rings....we need to let hendo play more