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Plowright
08-26-2010, 06:51 PM
"Golden State and Houston are contenders, too. What’s more, the Charlotte Bobcats (http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/teams/cha/) are a sleeper because of Anthony’s Brand Jordan shoe deal and the team’s ability to give the Nuggets a salary-dump proposal."

we are being linked with MELO!!!

doubt anything will happen but at least we seem to be relavent!

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AhpaSsOCc2Yvj8xcTs0tctq8vLYF?slug=aw-anthonynuggets082610

ammofan
08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
Jack + Dampier + draft picks = Melo and fillers!!!!!!


Pretty cool to see this. I beleive we could get him. We are already better than NY and GS....and Houston too really.

DJ
Melo
Gerald
Diaw
Nazr

WAM9
08-26-2010, 07:08 PM
That is excellent news!

Wouldn't that be a significant turn of events for the DUST chip...

Black
08-26-2010, 07:33 PM
Why do we do this to ourselves?!

BIGCatBobcat
08-26-2010, 07:49 PM
johnhollinger

If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha.

What the what?

EC123
08-26-2010, 08:09 PM
Jack + Dampier + draft picks = Melo and fillers!!!!!!


Pretty cool to see this. I beleive we could get him. We are already better than NY and GS....and Houston too really.

DJ
Melo
Gerald
Diaw
Nazr

They aren't going anywhere with Augustin and Nazr in the starting lineup, Melo or no Melo.

teej
08-26-2010, 08:14 PM
johnhollinger

If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha.

What the what?

I would cream my pants if we got Aaron Brooks.

He's better than Collison would've been. And cheap. Although that's only through next year.

Black
08-26-2010, 08:16 PM
johnhollinger

If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha.

What the what?

I could live with this if we could include DJ in the deal and land a center.

Scottley Crue
08-26-2010, 08:20 PM
johnhollinger

If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha.

What the what?
It wouldn't hurt my feelings to see Aaron Brooks in a Bobcats uniform. Have to be some others to fill it out, but I think they could do faaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaarrrrrrrrrrr worse than Brooks in a deal like this.

ammofan
08-26-2010, 08:21 PM
johnhollinger

If Nuggets do hold a Melo auction, my $$ is on Melo to Hou in a three-way with Charlotte -- Dampier to Den (gets under tax), Brooks to Cha.

What the what?

If we cant get Melo....Brooks would be GREAT!

ND22
08-26-2010, 08:53 PM
I would gladly take Brooks, but Denver would have to be getting more than just Dampier from either us or Houston.

dvdbumpus
08-26-2010, 08:57 PM
I would gladly take Brooks, but Denver would have to be getting more than just Dampier from either us or Houston.

Not necessarily, they could be looking for some salary cap relief and a chance to rebuild. It'd be sweeeet to get Brooks. Hell, I'd take Brooks, Lawson, or even Kyle Lowry at this point in time.

Let's hope for some Brooks!

dav7z
08-26-2010, 09:23 PM
I have been saying Denver for days now. Mello is not comming to Charlotte. Houston is is on the top of the list.
CHARLOTTE
Out , Damp , Diaw, Augustin, Henderson , and a second.
In , Lawson, Anderson, Smith, Jefferies


DENVER
Out , Melo, Smith, Lawson. Anderson
In , Martin, Batt, Hill. Henderson, Damp, Houston 1st Charlotte 2nd

Houston
Out, Batt, Martin, Hill, Jefferies, 1st
In, Mello. Augistin, Diaw

Sept, 13th
I have been calling this type trade for days

Chef
08-26-2010, 09:37 PM
i don't see us ending up with brooks. if he is moved by houston, denver will insist he ends up there. we would more likely end up with lawson instead. i would really want the FO to try hard to get diop involved. if i was our FO i would be sending Denver roses, candies, strippers whatever to get them to insist on Char including Damp to denver. that way we could insist on moving diop.

ziggy
08-26-2010, 09:57 PM
i don't see us ending up with brooks. if he is moved by houston, denver will insist he ends up there. we would more likely end up with lawson instead. i would really want the FO to try hard to get diop involved. if i was our FO i would be sending Denver roses, candies, strippers whatever to get them to insist on Char including Damp to denver. that way we could insist on moving diop.

Speaking of strippers...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xQI8-xLxgg8


carry on :biggrin:

BETCATS
08-26-2010, 10:04 PM
Im telling you guys, MJ reads these boards and saw my idea about getting Billups/Nene and really is digging it. So much so he is going to modify the deal and turn it into reality.

Im just lying but it would be awesome if it was true.


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SWedd523
08-26-2010, 10:07 PM
It makes sense to have Brooks come our way. Denver wants cap space and young talent for Melo. However, they have no need for Brooks since they've been in love with Lawson for years now.

Houston also would be okay with Brooks leaving if they got Melo since they have Lowry on an extended, likeable contract. In we come with our DUST chip and need for a PG.



It's really hard to come up with some sort of trade scenario where all three teams would be happy. The following would work (after Sept. 13th of course), but I'm honestly not sure if any of the three teams would do it.

Charlotte out: Erick Dampier, Gerald Henderson, Matt Carroll, Derrick Brown
Charlotte in: Aaron Brooks, Chris Andersen, Shane Battier, Jared Jeffries

Denver out: Carmelo Anthony, Chris Andersen, JR Smith, Renaldo Balkman
Denver in: Erick Dampier, Kevin Martin, Gerald Henderson, Patrick Patterson

Houston out: Aaron Brooks, Kevin Martin, Shane Battier, Jared Jeffries, Patrick Patterson
Houston in: Carmelo Anthony, JR Smith, Matt Carroll, Renaldo Balkman, Derrick Brown



We'd definitely be way over the cap, so I'm not sure if we'd do it, but our depth chart would look like:


PG: Aaron Brooks/DJ Augustin/Shaun Livingston
SG: Stephen Jackson
SF: Gerald Henderson/Shane Battier/Jared Jeffries
PF: Tyrus Thomas/Boris Diaw/Eduardo Najera
C: Nazr Mohammed/Chris Andersen/Kwame Brown/DeSagana Diop


That is an absolutely fantastic, and HUGE team. We have a major hole at the SG slot (Flip for the rest of the MLE?), but other than that, we are fantastic. That'd be, easily, one of the deepest and best benches in the league.



Again..... not that I think it's possible, or that I want this particular deal to happen, just that it's the only thing I could come up with in 10 minutes.

teej
08-26-2010, 10:28 PM
i don't see us ending up with brooks. if he is moved by houston, denver will insist he ends up there. we would more likely end up with lawson instead. i would really want the FO to try hard to get diop involved. if i was our FO i would be sending Denver roses, candies, strippers whatever to get them to insist on Char including Damp to denver. that way we could insist on moving diop.

Probably.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=3a8gdmu

This doesn't work in the Machine because of Damp, but it would end up working out in the end.

Hou IN: Melo, Hendo, Diop, future lotto protected first
Hou OUT: Aaron Brooks, Chase Budinger, Jared Jeffries, NYK 2012 unprotected 1st, 2 2nds

Den IN: Aaron Brooks, DUST, DJ, Budinger, NYK 2012 unprotected 1st, 2 2nds
Den OUT: Melo, Nene, Ty Lawson, JR Smith

Cha IN: Nene, Lawson, JR
Cha OUT: DUST, DJ, Hendo, Diop, future lotto protected first (2016 or so)

dvdbumpus
08-26-2010, 11:04 PM
Im telling you guys, MJ reads these boards and saw my idea about getting Billups/Nene and really is digging it. So much so he is going to modify the deal and turn it into reality.

Im just lying but it would be awesome if it was true.


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Mustachio
08-26-2010, 11:05 PM
you guys are too pessimistic. I still believe. CP3 - Melo in charlotte. Jordan Brand = power

stun704
08-26-2010, 11:17 PM
you guys are too pessimistic. I still believe. CP3 - Melo in charlotte. Jordan Brand = power
How can we get CP3 unless he comes here through FA? The collison trade pretty much made that goodnight sally

Weezy21
08-26-2010, 11:23 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5679219

stun704
08-26-2010, 11:26 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5679219
Somehow, if we could switch JR with K-Mart, we would be building a dynasty :D

Absinthe
08-27-2010, 12:06 AM
I can't see Charlotte getting Brooks. Who would play point for Houston? They're much more likely to part with someone like Battier or Kevin Martin. I wouldn't mind getting Scola somehow, but that likely won't happen.

CatNation
08-27-2010, 12:56 AM
I can't see Charlotte getting Brooks. Who would play point for Houston? They're much more likely to part with someone like Battier or Kevin Martin. I wouldn't mind getting Scola somehow, but that likely won't happen.

Kyle Lowry is pretty legit

CatNation
08-27-2010, 01:01 AM
I'd love Lawson but I don't see how Den could be content giving him up when they are already giving up Carmelo freaking Anthony and going into rebuild mode. Brooks/Lowry + decent big would be enough for me. I don't wanna see us give away Henderson or UPS though.

rsxnova
08-27-2010, 01:19 AM
Im telling you guys, MJ reads these boards and saw my idea about getting Billups/Nene and really is digging it. So much so he is going to modify the deal and turn it into reality.

Im just lying but it would be awesome if it was true.


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Have you discovered the Champagne room yet?

Toocool
08-27-2010, 03:10 AM
Melo would be awesome, but I wouldn't get our hopes up. A trade is seemingly likely as since he's shipping out, they'll want to get as many picks and expirings for the nuggies to rebuild. But honestly, I don't think we have much chance at all. Doesn't mean we don't have a chance, but I'm gonna expect the worst and hope for the best. That way I won't be disappointed.

Fred Williamson
08-27-2010, 03:18 AM
meh, I'm tired of all this crap. We've been a "sleeper" in all the CP3 talks and nothing happened.

And I'm with Toocool on this one, if there would be any chance to make this happen, Denver would demand at least 3 first round picks, snatch all the talent left on our roster (Crash included), steal all our expirings, and leave us with worst NBA roster ever. And that's not going to happen, we aren't that stupid.

spectre
08-27-2010, 05:50 AM
meh, I'm tired of all this crap. We've been a "sleeper" in all the CP3 talks and nothing happened.

And I'm with Toocool on this one, if there would be any chance to make this happen, Denver would demand at least 3 first round picks, snatch all the talent left on our roster (Crash included), steal all our expirings, and leave us with worst NBA roster ever. And that's not going to happen, we aren't that stupid.

Dude that's like screaming to the heavens to hit you with a thunderbolt! NEVER underestimate just how stupid we could be! :p

I like the idea, but IMO it really has to get us under the LT. I don't think we have anything left to tempt a team to get us out of the tax once Dampier is resolved.

BobCatsFanInTx
08-27-2010, 09:34 AM
If we cant get Melo....Brooks would be GREAT!Carmelo is a me first player who does very little outside of score. If getting Carmelo means losing Crash I think we should pass. On the other hand if he can be had without losing Crash and really Jax than I guess I could deal with it. If we get Melo and lose Crash we will regret the day we ever got him.

In my mind the best place for Melo is in LA playing for the Clippers. The Clippers are set up in such a way that Melo would be a perfect fit. Melo wants to be mentioned in the same breath as Kobe and what a perfect way to prove himself than against Kobe the most times he possibly can. If Melo is able to use his scoring only play to elevate the Clippers than his ego will be satisfied. Of coarse the Clippers won't be built around Carmelo. He would have to be a key part of their success but not the icon he wants to be.

I may be a bit bitter being that I am also a Nuggets fan but the Nuggets are not that different on paper than the team that was in the Western Conference Finals. Last season they were the number 2 seed when George Karl got diagnosed with cancer. If people can't see the dramatic effect coach Karl's illness had on the team than they really don't know shit. For the Nuggets to all of a sudden have a throw in the towel attitude over this latest Prima donna snot not wanting to play for them anymore is just disgusting. This argument that other teams in the West got much better and the Nuggets did not do much to keep up is pure BS. Most of those other teams made moves just to keep up with Denver. They know that the Nuggets when healthy and all together are a force to be reckoned with. Even if Melo does not do much more than score. The Nuggets were not set up to make Carmelo the head honcho and that pissed Melo off. He needs his ego stroked and to feel as though the team was built around him.

For a team that JUST LACKS SCORING Melo might be a good fit but when fundamentals are important don't look for (ME lo) to save a team.

ohara831
08-27-2010, 10:04 AM
I'd be happy with Brooks and Houston's 1st rounder. I'd really like Melo if Mj had some sort of "assurance" from Melo that he will likely resign with us.

murphman
08-27-2010, 10:08 AM
I'd be happy with Brooks and Houston's 1st rounder. I'd really like Melo if Mj had some sort of "assurance" from Melo that he will likely resign with us.

According to the "rumors" Melo wants to sign the Denver extension (3 years/65 mil.) and then get traded. That is 21-22 million per year. We already have the 4th or 5th best SF in the league at 10.5 million per year. Why would we want the 3rd best for double that? Makes little financial sense.

dav7z
08-27-2010, 10:11 AM
I have been saying Denver for days now. Mello is not comming to Charlotte. Houston is is on the top of the list.
CHARLOTTE
Out , Damp , Diaw, Augustin, Henderson , and a second.
In , Lawson, Anderson, Smith, Jefferies


DENVER
Out , Melo, Smith, Lawson. Anderson
In , Martin, Batt, Hill. Henderson, Damp, Houston 1st Charlotte 2nd

Houston
Out, Batt, Martin, Hill, Jefferies, 1st
In, Mello. Augistin, Diaw

Sept, 13th
I have been calling this type trade for days


Any trade you guys come up with . HAS to have at least 25 going out and no more than 18 comming in . We NOT GOING TO STAY OVER THE CAP, We have to take 8 less in salery than we give and it has to be within the 125% rule .

I think this is getting very close on all sides.

rsxnova
08-27-2010, 10:30 AM
The Real GM is busy today. Nuggs are preparing to trade Melo, and JR Smith chokes a teammate.

TheLegend
08-27-2010, 10:51 AM
I don't know if anyone read this part or post this on here yet about Anthony.


Anthony reportedly gave the team a short list of his preferred destinations, which included the Nets, Clippers, Warriors, Rockets and Bobcats -- all teams that have some combination of young pieces and picks that the Nuggets might convince themselves is enough in return for Anthony.


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/08/26/report-carmelo-anthony-wants-out-of-denver/

rsxnova
08-27-2010, 11:13 AM
I don't know if anyone read this part or post this on here yet about Anthony.




http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/08/26/report-carmelo-anthony-wants-out-of-denver/


We are on a prefered list? Amazing!

ALuhrs704
08-27-2010, 11:38 AM
damn you guys. now im going to be checking the computer every hr just to see if another rumor came out lol. i still dont see carmelo with us, but man id love aaron brooks. he can shoot score pass fast. yahtzee. but if we got carmelo id hate to trade gerald, much rather trade jax (no offense to jax, but melo is melo and we need a superstar to be at that elite level. even tho the lineup of nazr diaw wallace melo dj would be better then our current one. our frontcourt is offly soft on D (naz n diaw). this is crazy idc if their just rumors cuz panthers/bobcats offseasons have not been very fun.

SCBobcat
08-27-2010, 11:39 AM
Being on that list is cool. Also being one of only 2 teams in the eastern conference, where Denver would probably prefer to send him, is even better. No hopes up just yet from me though.

Chef
08-27-2010, 11:39 AM
not sure if i want to give up a hard nosed great team first sf for a great scorer who is also a whiny bitch when things dont go right.either way we dont have the assets compared to hou, nj or clips

ALuhrs704
08-27-2010, 11:46 AM
i think we do have the assets, not player/talent wise but contract wise. we have dampier and naz since their expirings that could help and maybe we do land birdman with him. who knows? i just think its more realistic for us to recieve chauncy billups in a trade over lawson just based on the fact denver is trying to get younger if their gonna dish out melo.... idk but i'd hate to have to reshuffle my whole team cuz 1 guy wants out (denver)

CatNation
08-27-2010, 11:46 AM
lol some of you guys never learn. we arent getting melo. We could definitely get a nice piece as part of a 3 way though so I can hope for that

Weezy21
08-27-2010, 11:47 AM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5680364

New Lineups for each team

Bobcats:…all i can say is skeeet skeeeeeet

PG-Billups/Livingston/Collins
SG-Jax/JR/Caroll
SF-Melo/Jax/McGuire
PF-Tyrus/Najera
C-Naz/Foster/Kwame/Diop

Indiana:….is this a contender? no…but it does give them the PF depth they need for the season…while getting rid of players who have worn out their welcome

C-Hibbert/Jones
PF-K-mart/Diaw/Hansborogay
SF-Granger/Diaw/Brown
SG-Rush/Jones/Stevenson
PG-Collison/DJ

Denver:….still a competitive team and moves the players who would have most likely demanded trades once melo left or really expressed not wanting to be there now that melo’s gone…i still think this team could play

C-Nene/Birdman
PF-Harrington/Birdman
SF-Wallace/Dunleavy
SG-Afflalo/Henderson
PG-Ford/Lawson

BobCatsFanInTx
08-27-2010, 12:36 PM
http://www.realgm.com/src_checktrade.php?tradeid=5680364

New Lineups for each team

Bobcats:…all i can say is skeeet skeeeeeet

PG-Billups/Livingston/Collins
SG-Jax/JR/Caroll
SF-Melo/Jax/McGuire
PF-Tyrus/Najera
C-Naz/Foster/Kwame/Diop

Indiana:….is this a contender? no…but it does give them the PF depth they need for the season…while getting rid of players who have worn out their welcome

C-Hibbert/Jones
PF-K-mart/Diaw/Hansborogay
SF-Granger/Diaw/Brown
SG-Rush/Jones/Stevenson
PG-Collison/DJ

Denver:….still a competitive team and moves the players who would have most likely demanded trades once melo left or really expressed not wanting to be there now that melo’s gone…i still think this team could play

C-Nene/Birdman
PF-Harrington/Birdman
SF-Wallace/Dunleavy
SG-Afflalo/Henderson
PG-Ford/LawsonHansborogay...Let me guess, you are a UNC hater. Hansboro is going to be every bit as solid as Verajao when it comes to playing tough and getting boards and doing the "little things" that help the Pacers win enough games to make the playoffs. You might want to change your depth chart because before a season with your trade ends Hansboro would be #2 on the depth charts.

spectre
08-27-2010, 12:52 PM
I don't know if anyone read this part or post this on here yet about Anthony.




http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/08/26/report-carmelo-anthony-wants-out-of-denver/

I'm completely shocked. Why in the world would he put us on a shortlist? Yeah I know he's Jordan brand...but really?

Maybe he and CP have been talking (of course they have) and CP floated teaming together here in a couple of years?

Mustachio
08-27-2010, 01:37 PM
lol some of you guys never learn. we arent getting melo. We could definitely get a nice piece as part of a 3 way though so I can hope for that


you keep hoping for mediocrity, ill keep hoping for greatness. deal?

if either happens it'll be better than nothing.

ND22
08-27-2010, 02:15 PM
I don't know if anyone read this part or post this on here yet about Anthony.




http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/08/26/report-carmelo-anthony-wants-out-of-denver/

I would be more optimistic about this list if New York was on it, since it seemed from day 1 that Melo was interested in New York. Still, that's pretty cool.

Black
08-27-2010, 02:18 PM
Awesome if it is legit, but this guy could have as much credibility as the fine folks over at RoF.

BIGCatBobcat
08-27-2010, 04:17 PM
Awesome if it is legit, but this guy could have as much credibility as the fine folks over at RoF.

What happened to those guys and their olive branches etc?

Man, it's nice to be mentioned but it don't put food on the table. Would a "big" 3 of Wallace/Melo/Jackson compete against the other "3's" in the east? What pieces would Melo see here that he likes?

ziggy
08-27-2010, 04:30 PM
What happened to those guys and their olive branches etc?

Man, it's nice to be mentioned but it don't put food on the table. Would a "big" 3 of Wallace/Melo/Jackson compete against the other "3's" in the east? What pieces would Melo see here that he likes?

That big 3 would definitely compete. The only downside is that Crash would see heavy minutes at the 4... which usually leads to concussions and unconsciousness.

teej
08-27-2010, 04:36 PM
That big 3 would definitely compete. The only downside is that Crash would see heavy minutes at the 4... which usually leads to concussions and unconsciousness.

Actually, you'd play Melo at the 4 since he's bulkier, and there aren't freakish 4's like the West (Gasol, Randolph, LMA, Duncan, Dirk, etc.)

ziggy
08-27-2010, 04:49 PM
Actually, you'd play Melo at the 4 since he's bulkier, and there aren't freakish 4's like the West (Gasol, Randolph, LMA, Duncan, Dirk, etc.)

I always thought of Melo as a pure 3, although he probably does outweigh Crash by 15 or so lbs ( or 1 Boris Diaw lunch ).

Either way, if we wind up with those 3 on the roster, determining who plays the 4 will be a problem that I think we can all happily deal with.

ajbry
08-27-2010, 05:05 PM
It'd be a night-to-night determination of whom to play at each position. Jack can guard 4's, too.

Conversely, how would opposing teams ever guard that trio? As it stands, the Jack/Gerald combo is one of the best wing pairings in the league.

Black
08-27-2010, 05:17 PM
John Hollinger predicts Billups is gone if Melo is gone. No surprise there. I'd love to land either.

Chef
08-27-2010, 05:22 PM
if i were the nuggets my choice would be between houston and the clippers with the dust invoved in both. the choice is do i think the nicks are a lottery team this year. if they are how bad? could i get harrison barnes in the draft. or do i want minny's unprotected #1 next year and try to get this guy:

http://www.ballislife.com/video/video/show?id=2030901%3AVideo%3A162942

TheBeagle
08-27-2010, 05:29 PM
I'm completely shocked. Why in the world would he put us on a shortlist? Yeah I know he's Jordan brand...but really?

Maybe he and CP have been talking (of course they have) and CP floated teaming together here in a couple of years?
Can't guarantee of course, but I'm sure this is the case. The realist in me says it'll never happen, but because of the Jumpman connection and the fact Chris would like to play in Charlotte (yes, fact, New York media and ESPN) I'm sure it's been discussed by them, however loosely.

As for Melo himself, only if Crash isn't involved would I want him here, because, frankly, Crash>Melo in terms of being a complete player. To continue the fantasy though, if bringing in Melo would assure that CP would come in a couple years, I'd be sad, but willing to see Crash go.

I just hope we can at least be a facilitator if any deal happens.

Wolfpackbobcat
08-27-2010, 06:18 PM
Id be in favor of this if we had a shot of resigning him. He'd just leave after this year.

BETCATS
08-27-2010, 06:41 PM
I do not want Carmelo Anthony because that would mean the end of the Gerald Wallace era. It would be like having an extremely hot wife who would never leave you, only to divorce her to get with a super model (im talking playmate/Maxium top 100 hot) who has no real emotional attachment to you/will probably leave you after a maximum of 5 fun filled years.

Sure it would be better for the short term of the franchise, but Carmelo wouldnt stick it out here because we have no real reason for him to. The city is too small, the coach isnt going to be here long term but they will clash when he is (LB willl not put up for that shit Carmelo calls defense, he has improved since he first became a Nugget but it is still pretty terrible), and their is no proof CP3 would want to make his buddy King James's division any tougher (who he has equal loyality to with MJ).

We should build around what we have, not throwing it away/getting an improved version and calling it a day. Gerald deserves to retire a Bobcat, Carmelo would never do that. He is just like any other 'mega star' and we will end up in the same boat the Cavs are in now a few years down the road if we get him.

Black
08-27-2010, 06:47 PM
Billups
Nene

for

Dampier
DJ
Nazr

Billups
Jackson
Wallace
Thomas
Nene

That would be a very solid starting 5.

Muttley
08-27-2010, 07:02 PM
Billups
Nene

for

Dampier
DJ
Nazr

Billups
Jackson
Wallace
Thomas
Nene

That would be a very solid starting 5.
That'd be hot.

I think I'd take Billups alone as a consolation prize. Think Denver would trade Billups for Dampier?

Billups and Nene? Sure thing.

Scottley Crue
08-27-2010, 07:32 PM
Billups
Nene

for

Dampier
DJ
Nazr

Billups
Jackson
Wallace
Thomas
Nene

That would be a very solid starting 5.
Would absolutely love this. That's a strong starting lineup, as far as I'm concerned. I'd obviously love to get Melo, but this would be my target for being the facilitator in a deal to make Melo happy and give Denver salary relief.

BETCATS
08-27-2010, 08:04 PM
Billups
Nene

for

Dampier
DJ
Nazr

Billups
Jackson
Wallace
Thomas
Nene

That would be a very solid starting 5.
THAT IS MY TRADE PRICK. I made a thread on it. I just used caps locks to defend it. Make your own.

BlockParty
08-27-2010, 08:29 PM
I'm completely shocked. Why in the world would he put us on a shortlist?

Maybe it's because of Bonnell (sarcasm). Melo may like the idea of small town, low-stress, "I can actually build a big house, with bball court, pool, volacano, etc within 15 minutes of my place of work for 1 month's salary" type of town.

If he's the aire apparent to "whomever he wishes to be compared to" he can do that from Charlotte, he can go to NY in the offseason to visit his wife's family. He won't have 50 beat writers in his face after every practice, he'll have Bonnell and a couple 5-10 regional sportscasters. His buddy CP3 can be here in a couple years, and he will be in the same Division as the 3 stooges in Miami.

...And I'll be able to sell my season tickets and send my kids to college.

Absinthe
08-28-2010, 01:26 AM
Billups and Nene would probably place Charlotte at a #4 seed and maybe even at #3 depending on how the bench plays. That team would definitely put more points on the board while losing very little defensively.

spectre
08-28-2010, 05:40 AM
FAnHouse:


Anthony reportedly gave the team a short list of his preferred destinations, which included the Nets, Clippers, Warriors, Rockets and Bobcats

ESPN:


So who are the suitors for Anthony's services? Reports vary, but the New York Knicks are said to be Anthony's team of choice, with the New Jersey Nets, Orlando Magic, Houston Rockets and New Orleans Hornets also on the radar.

I tend to believe ESPN. Of the two quotes, the former has 3 teams that doesn't really make sense. We all know NY is on his radar...but the Warriors, Clipshow & the 'Cats?

Black
08-28-2010, 10:33 AM
Billups and Nene would probably place Charlotte at a #4 seed and maybe even at #3 depending on how the bench plays. That team would definitely put more points on the board while losing very little defensively.

The top four seeds are the division winners, so even with that lineup, our best bet would be fifth seed.

Also, I just read that the Wizards have inquired about Melo as well. If they got him, we would be at the bottom of the Southeast for a while.

SCBobcat
08-28-2010, 10:44 AM
The top four seeds are the division winners, so even with that lineup, our best bet would be fifth seed.


Except that there are only 3 divisions. And a division winner is only guaranteed a top 4 seed. Thus, the number 2 team from one division could be the second, third, or fourth seed depending on records.

Chef
08-28-2010, 10:49 AM
The top four seeds are the division winners, so even with that lineup, our best bet would be fifth seed.

Also, I just read that the Wizards have inquired about Melo as well. If they got him, we would be at the bottom of the Southeast for a while.

we are the point where every "news" agency is posting speculation about possible teams just to be heard.

washington: has nothing other than john wall to offer in a trade seraphin isn't getting close
NO: now that collison is gone nothing but expirings which they can get from other teams, david west as a center piece isn't getting it done
magic: don't have any young players or salary relief and their vets aren't good enough to justify the trade, luxury tax and overall team performance
knicks: gallo is nice, but they have no draft picks and other than curry no salary relief

the actual team he ends up on will be one of the one's both the organization and him (extension) can live with:
houston: they have the knicks picks which will be lottery, martin, and cap relief
njn: young talent and can absorb salary
clippers (he would have to come around to them): minny's pick, eric bledsoe, eric gordon and cap relief
not seeing what the warriors can give because they won't give curry and if i were the nuggets i wouldn't want the monta/biedrins crap sandwhich

of course we are more than available to lend a hand with dampier's contract and my guess is we will be involved.

Black
08-28-2010, 10:54 AM
Except that there are only 3 divisions. And a division winner is only guaranteed a top 4 seed. Thus, the number 2 team from one division could be the second, third, or fourth seed depending on records.

Brain fart, my mistake.

DY_nasty
08-28-2010, 02:15 PM
If Denver still sees value in Arenas and they want to keep winning for a while, that'd actually make Washington relevant in these trade talks...

Chef
08-28-2010, 02:38 PM
If Denver still sees value in Arenas and they want to keep winning for a while, that'd actually make Washington relevant in these trade talks...

come on. arenas isn't worth very much at all. any trade with the wizards will likely require john wall. if you were denver, what package not including john wall would even compare to what houston, clips or njn could give?

DY_nasty
08-28-2010, 03:05 PM
come on. arenas isn't worth very much at all. any trade with the wizards will likely require john wall. if you were denver, what package not including john wall would even compare to what houston, clips or njn could give?
Some people still see value in Arenas, not saying they're correct or incorrect in that matter, but those people exist nonetheless.

Also, it wouldn't even be the dumbest move by a team this offseason if it were to happen. If Denver sees value in Arenas, and still feels like they want to be competitive for a while post-Melo, then it makes sense for them.

Chef
08-28-2010, 04:33 PM
Some people still see value in Arenas, not saying they're correct or incorrect in that matter, but those people exist nonetheless.

Also, it wouldn't even be the dumbest move by a team this offseason if it were to happen. If Denver sees value in Arenas, and still feels like they want to be competitive for a while post-Melo, then it makes sense for them.

awhile meaning 5 years/20+per for an injury prone, me first point guard.

Black
08-28-2010, 05:26 PM
Sam Amico of NBA.com is reporting that the Nuggets are looking at three teams as destinations for All-Star forward Carmelo Anthony -- the Nets, Kings and Timberwolves.

Read more: http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/68888/20100828/nuggets_want_to_deal_carmelo_to_nets_kings_or_wolv es/#ixzz0xwEgS8kt



Anyone feel like coming up with some third party facilitator deals?

DY_nasty
08-28-2010, 05:30 PM
awhile meaning 5 years/20+per for an injury prone, me first point guard.
New Orleans just gave up their Chris Paul replacement for Trevor F'n Ariza. FOs are dumb, and given how Arenas played in Washington this season before the suspension (he didn't play bad at all and had plenty of good games... he was completely healthy and the only thing effecting his game was rust) I can understand the thinking behind a possible move.

Also, for the 19048973781st time, Arenas' health issues were as much Washington's fault as they were his own. They're the ones who rushed him back at one point and they failed to keep his doctors, the teams training staff, and Gilbert on the same page at multiple points over the past 2 seasons.

Again, I'm not for or against really, but like I said - I'm just throwing out the possible reasoning behind such a move.

Black
08-28-2010, 05:32 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2f5ezdj

BlockParty
08-28-2010, 05:32 PM
Anyone feel like coming up with some third party facilitator deals?

I doubt he goes to a Western Conference team, unless they get some star back. If it's Sacramento, maybe we use the dust chip and get one of the PG's (Tyreke, Billiups, Lawson or Martin and whatever other pieces are necessary to the Cats AND Luxury Tax relief....but unsure of the Trade exemptions they may have)

catsandheels
08-28-2010, 08:57 PM
I just saw this on the realgm nets board but cant find it on the main board it says melo augustin and najera for twill harris favors not sure if its legit or not http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1045824&start=210

CatNation
08-28-2010, 09:01 PM
I just saw this on the realgm nets board but cant find it on the main board it says melo augustin and najera for twill harris favors not sure if its legit or not http://forums.realgm.com/boards/viewtopic.php?f=23&t=1045824&start=210

so I'm assuming damp would be goin to denver with us getting harris or billups or something?

Black
08-28-2010, 09:05 PM
I'm not reading too much into a trade "rumor" that has us giving up players and not receiving any in return.

LiquidWayno
08-28-2010, 09:19 PM
I would love Devin Harris, Terrence Williams or Derrick Favors. T-Will is very versatile, I really wanted to draft him a year ago.

SWedd523
08-28-2010, 09:25 PM
If we send out Crash, Dampier, DJ and Eddie and replace him with TWill and Billups and Birdman/Nene, I'll sadly have to accept.


Billups
Jack
TWill
Tyrus
Nene


looks delicious.

Black
08-28-2010, 09:27 PM
If we send out Crash, Dampier, DJ and Eddie and replace him with TWill and Billups and Birdman/Nene, I'll sadly have to accept.


Billups
Jack
TWill
Tyrus
Nene


looks delicious.


Agreed. :(

LiquidWayno
08-28-2010, 11:13 PM
I can't go for trading Crash. As nice as that lineup is. He is as close to untouchable as any player we will ever have.

Woodsy23
08-29-2010, 12:31 PM
I can't go for trading Crash. As nice as that lineup is. He is as close to untouchable as any player we will ever have.

I love Crash and would be so sad to see him go but no player on a team that has a chance of missing the playoffs is untradeable. But i do feel if we ever did trade Crash we'd be screwed over, which highlights the lack of trust I have in the FO but yknow we shall see.

ziggy
08-29-2010, 12:49 PM
I hear what you guys are saying about Crash being "untouchable" BUT if we had to give him up to get Carmelo, then we have to do it for these 2 reasons.

* Because of his playing style, Crash is always 1 play away from being sidelined for 50 games with an injury. He hits the floor harder and more often than any other player not named Rodman that I've ever seen. How much more of that can a human body take

* Carmelo is an elite player. I'm a huge Crash fan, but Carmelo is in that 2nd tier behind Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Dwight Howard. He is on that same second level as CP3. I'm a big Crash fan, but Melo is on another level.

dnbman
08-29-2010, 01:17 PM
I hear what you guys are saying about Crash being "untouchable" BUT if we had to give him up to get Carmelo, then we have to do it for these 2 reasons.

* Because of his playing style, Crash is always 1 play away from being sidelined for 50 games with an injury. He hits the floor harder and more often than any other player not named Rodman that I've ever seen. How much more of that can a human body take

* Carmelo is an elite player. I'm a huge Crash fan, but Carmelo is in that 2nd tier behind Lebron, Kobe, Wade, Dwight Howard. He is on that same second level as CP3. I'm a big Crash fan, but Melo is on another level.

I agree, but does he stay here? And if he doesn't, does it even matter? We either make a jump or go into rebuilding mode. What would we have to have to make Melo stay?

Also, if we get Melo, does that make getting Paul more or less of a reality? (Obviously more due to have a co-star, but less because of the pieces to actually acquire him.)

ziggy
08-29-2010, 02:22 PM
I agree, but does he stay here? And if he doesn't, does it even matter? We either make a jump or go into rebuilding mode. What would we have to have to make Melo stay?

Also, if we get Melo, does that make getting Paul more or less of a reality? (Obviously more due to have a co-star, but less because of the pieces to actually acquire him.)

This is where I would hope that the Brand Jordan loyalties come into effect.
If it came down to the Cats having Melo for one year, then he bails at the end of one year without us getting anything in return, I would imagine that his days getting big bucks as a Brand Jordan guy would be over.

Is that enough to prevent it from happening though? :g:

dnbman
08-29-2010, 02:31 PM
This is where I would hope that the Brand Jordan loyalties come into effect.
If it came down to the Cats having Melo for one year, then he bails at the end of one year without us getting anything in return, I would imagine that his days getting big bucks as a Brand Jordan guy would be over.

Is that enough to prevent it from happening though? :g:

Would Melo care? I'm sure he'd be happy enough taking Adidas' or Reboks' money.

SirBobcat
08-29-2010, 02:48 PM
lol they linked us because Melo is apart of Jordan's clothing brand and not because it makes sense to Melo's and Denver's interests. We're not going to land Melo

dvdbumpus
08-29-2010, 05:04 PM
This is where I would hope that the Brand Jordan loyalties come into effect.
If it came down to the Cats having Melo for one year, then he bails at the end of one year without us getting anything in return, I would imagine that his days getting big bucks as a Brand Jordan guy would be over.

Is that enough to prevent it from happening though? :g:

Heading to New York I'm certain he'd have 5 other offers lined up rather immediately. Along with a max contract which we'd struggle to afford.

Black
09-02-2010, 10:42 AM
The Nuggets and new vice president of basketball operations Masai Ujiri, just introduced Tuesday to the local media, are not close to announcing a Carmelo Anthony trade.

Sorry to disappoint again: Anthony isn’t even on the market.

Not yet, anyway. http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/19614/melo-sweepstakes-sorry-haven%E2%80%99t-started-yet

I'm going to take the optimistic route and hope that has something to do with Dusty Damp.

BobCatsFanInTx
09-03-2010, 04:58 PM
WE DO NOT NEED CAR(ME)LO ANTHONY!!! Crash is more than good enough. The only way our team gets Melo is if they give up Crash. I like Carmelo to a certain extent but he would drive Larry Brown nuts with his lazy and poor defense. Crash is too important to the team from a defensive and rebounding standpoint. Carmelo pretty much only scores and I don't think his scoring would make up for all that we would lose without Crash.

I am all for getting something big in a trade but to me that trade would be better off including Jax and not Crash. Jax is a good player but he is a lot more replaceable than Crash.

BobCatsFanInTx
09-03-2010, 05:01 PM
Being that I am also a Nuggets fan I will say that if Carmelo is traded his best destination is not NJ, NY or Charlotte but it would be LAC.

I guess I must add that the offensive minded Knicks would be a good fit for Melo but the Knicks don't have the parts to get him. Of the teams with a legit chance at getting Melo I would say that the Clippers would be an ideal situation.

Black
09-03-2010, 05:03 PM
Being that I am also a Nuggets fan I will say that if Carmelo is traded his best destination is not NJ, NY or Charlotte but it would be LAC.

Kaman to the Bobcats!

Black
09-03-2010, 05:19 PM
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2f7syzf