How many things did Ziggy break today??????????

[ziggy]

I'm only about 80% done with the forum side of things, but I'm going to come back and finish up a little later.

Let's use this thread to document any weirdness that is happening following this upgrade.
Also anything missing (vbookie, arcade yet to be set back up ) or odd.

Have Fun!

[ohara831]

Just trying to get the gist of this new setup. Test post here to see if I have it right.

[Black]

Looks good so far.

[Plowright]

its like my car got a new paint job :) Although those two hours without bobcatsplanet sne me cold turkey...

[Mustachio]

I cant tell you how much better i like this look. Its really really nice. what prompted the change?

[polarcat]

digging the new look and flow of it. keep up the solid work zig

[Plowright]

Did we always have naked "be naughty" advertisments on the pages? i don't remember them lol

[bing!]

The layout/elements doesn't/don't scale well for lower resolutions (e.g. 1024x768 ).

EDIT: in addition, I can't use the 'mark forums read' action. I get the following message upon trying...

Your submission could not be processed because a security token was invalid.

It's probably an issue with permissions.

[ziggy]

Did we always have naked "be naughty" advertisments on the pages? i don't remember them lol

Wow, I haven't run across those yet. What was it an ad for? :g:

[ziggy]

I cant tell you how much better i like this look. Its really really nice. what prompted the change?

I was on old versions of Wordpress and vbulletin and to be as secure as possible I wanted to get both of those up to the current version this off-season.
Vbulletin had a significant rewrite between versions 3.8 to 4.0 and none of the templates for the old version would work any longer on the new version. so for the forum I had to get a new template, and since I had to do it for the forum, I took the opportunity to give the homepage a fresh coat of paint too.

[ziggy]

The layout/elements doesn't/don't scale well for lower resolutions (e.g. 1024x768 ).

EDIT: in addition, I can't use the 'mark forums read' action. I get the following message upon trying...

Your submission could not be processed because a security token was invalid.

It's probably an issue with permissions.

I'll play with it some to see if there is anything that can be done for 1024x768

Hmm. I'm getting that error when trying to mark the forums read too. Investigating.

[ziggy]

EDIT: in addition, I can't use the 'mark forums read' action. I get the following message upon trying...

Your submission could not be processed because a security token was invalid.

It's probably an issue with permissions.

Give it another try, I think I have it fixed

[Plowright]

keep seeing advertisments for this http://www.benaughty.com/

maybe they are random internet things that you cant stop, but i was just thinking it isnt great for kids surfing the site and stuff. Could it be my comp infected?

[Plowright]

My chat also isn't loading

[ziggy]

Does it show up as part of the website? Or is it some kind of popup?

If its a popup then it must be some kind of adware on your machine. I never use popups, I hate them.


All ads, should be nothing more risque than PG caliber.

[ziggy]

My chat also isn't loading

Don't worry about it for now. I'm going to come up with a more robust chat solution before the season starts up.

[Plowright]

ok, yeh, it doesn seem like a pop up. I cant close it for example, im sure it must be my comp. Im pretty sure you wouldnt put them up on the site lol

[SWedd523]

Three things:


1)I am a heavy user of the "New Posts" button. When I click and it shows the threads that have new posts, sometimes they're orange and sometimes they stay blue. Not necessarily an issue, but something nonetheless.

2)When I click the button next to the threads to pop to the first new post, the little square in the upper left corner (pale blueish) isn't much different than the old posts squares (whiteish). Again, not necessarily an issue, so if it can't be corrected fast, don't worry about it.

3) Building off what bing! said, sometimes the "member info" boxes at the top of posts aren't formatted properly--it seems to stem from the size of the avatar. For example, yours formats correctly, but plowman's doesn't, since his "pushes" the info down.



Also, it seems to be a little wonky on my girlfriends computer (1366x768), so I would assume it'd be odd on mine (1600x900), so maybe there's some way to have an auto-format thing to adjust to the different ratios?

[ajbry]

I'm on 1366x768 as well and don't see anything weird, but every computer/browser is different, right?

Oh, and ziggy, check your PMs when you see this.

[ziggy]

Hey Swedd,

1. I'll play with that and see if I can make that happen over here ( that's what she said :biggrin: )
2. Once the dust settles, I'll see if there are any volunteers that might be able to make a few more distinctive buttons.
3. If it isn't too much trouble, can you pm or email me a screen print of the weirdness? my desktop and laptop are fairly standard, so I'm not seeing it. No hurry though, I'm too sleepy/drunk to work on it tonight.

[SWedd523]

http://i52.tinypic.com/6dswb7.png


Not that it's off, it just doesn't stretch all the way over

[ziggy]

When you scroll up the page is that the area that the sidebar takes up?

[SWedd523]

Ahh yes, that explains it! Would it be possible to have that sidebar have a hover effect so that it stays on the screen and fills the location? I've seen some different things do that before. If that would be possible, Maybe we could put some cool, useful links (or ads ;)) in that spot to make things even more user friendly.



As for the buttons, I have no problem with them. It's just that when I get to the actual thread, it's hard to tell a difference in the color between the old posts and the new ones. In the old forum layout, the old posts showed white while the new showed gold or something so that it was easy to tell where the new ones began.

I'll take a pic to show you what I mean. I'll also get one of the poster info section.

[SWedd523]

Mine: info next to my name, fits the section properlyhttp://i51.tinypic.com/24n2ypl.png


plowman: gets pushed down http://i55.tinypic.com/ermy6g.png

[SWedd523]

old posts have WHITE page icon next to time of post http://i53.tinypic.com/4soccn.png

new posts have PALE BLUE page icon next to time of post http://i54.tinypic.com/2u75e9g.png






Again though, if it's any more difficult than changing a hexidecimal code for the colors then I wouldn't even bother with it.

[Muttley]

Yeah, I'm not sure if this is the same thing that SWedd's talking about or not, but each poster's header is a bit off for me. It's like the "Join date, etc." info doesn't start until below the avatar stuff. I don't see it happening in SWedd's screen capture, but he's a capture of what I'm seeing:

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Maybe it's my computer. Whatever the reason, it'd be more aesthetically pleasing to have the two columns aligned like before.

Everything looks pretty sweet though. Thanks again for creating and maintaining this place Ziggy!

Edit: I guess it is the same thing that SWedd's talking about, except that I see everyone's post the way he shows Plowman's above.

[teej]

Zig, love the changes. Great work. Couple questions though:

Is it possible to make the sidebar a little thinner and the posts a bit thicker? I like the sidebar, though like Swedd said it would be better as a hover. But I feel like the posts are a bit cramped. Maybe I just need to get used to it, I dunno.

At the top header, an ad is covering up the word Community. Any way to fix that?

Lastly (for now): any chance the grey/orange Cat logo for new posts comes back? I really liked that.

Other than that, I'm really digging it.

[Toocool]

Hot damn Ziggy. New layout looks mighty fine. It'll take a little bit of getting used to, but I like it already!

Thanks for all the hard work!

[ziggy]

Mine: info next to my name, fits the section properly


plowman: gets pushed down

Now I see what you mean.

What browser are you using?

[ziggy]

Zig, love the changes. Great work. Couple questions though:

Is it possible to make the sidebar a little thinner and the posts a bit thicker? I like the sidebar, though like Swedd said it would be better as a hover. But I feel like the posts are a bit cramped. Maybe I just need to get used to it, I dunno.

At the top header, an ad is covering up the word Community. Any way to fix that?

Lastly (for now): any chance the grey/orange Cat logo for new posts comes back? I really liked that.

Other than that, I'm really digging it.

Hi TeeJ,

Just curious, what is your screen resolution?

I should be able to change to the orange/gray cats for old and and new posts over the weekend.


---

Thanks everyone for all of the input, I think the one thing that I'll have to work on with this template is getting it to function correctly on all resolutions.
Hopefully I can get the kinks worked out over the next couple of days.

[ziggy]

Hey Guys,

I removed the sidebar from the thread pages, can you tell me if the name section still gets pushed down for some members, or does it display correctly now.

[bing!]

I'm stuck with a 17" for the time being so browsing sites not optimized for x768 4:3 is a pain in the ass, but Google Chrome saves the day with its in-browser individual site scaling (I've set BCP to 83% and everything 'seems' to be in place).

Oh, and you might wanna limit the avatar size to get rid of the problem of user info being pushed down (either that or reposition/resize the sidebar so that avatars have some 'breathing room').

:)

EDIT:


Hey Guys,

I removed the sidebar from the thread pages, can you tell me if the name section still gets pushed down for some members, or does it display correctly now.

It's A-OK for me.

[bing!]

Teej mentioned this earlier...

http://i52.tinypic.com/1zdyqnp.png

Could you move the banner to the bottom or something? It's veiling the truth! :biggrin:

[ziggy]

Teej mentioned this earlier...

http://i52.tinypic.com/1zdyqnp.png

Could you move tha banner to the bottom or something? It's veiling the truth! :biggrin:

I have to figure out something to do there... This template has a built in spot for a 468x60 ad. If I remove it, in it's place is an image that says place 468x60 ad here :facepalm:

[dnbman]

We need some drink holders in the back.

[ziggy]

We need some drink holders in the back.

Done :biggrin:


http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/imagesqtbnANd9GcQLrvePQMeCWKuVhLReV.jpg

[SWedd523]

I'm on Mobile Safari (iPhone) currently, and it's doing it to mine and teej's info. I do have scaling on my Laptop browser (Safari) but using it Finkles the font size.

What could work is have the avatar be big enough to stretch all the way down, then put an identically sized cell next to it for the info, that way their name could be centered with their bcp rank under it and whatever titles (mod, writer, etc) they may have under that!

[BETCATS]

New set up?
WTFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFF FFFFFFFFFFF

I dont respond well to change, Ziggy.

[spectre]

Heh, me either...but I must say it's looking pretty good!

Nice job Zig!

[BRNC]

Well...I finally got a high speed internet connection so it all looks good to me...:biggrin::p;):rolleyes::cool::o

[Toocool]

Well...I finally got a high speed internet connection so it all looks good to me...:biggrin::p;):rolleyes::cool::o

Welcome to the 21st century my friend. So glad you can join us :biggrin:

[BlockParty]

When you click on the Star on the top left of a post to leave Postive feedback, the box that used to appear is covered up by the header page and the body of the post.

[ziggy]

When you click on the Star on the top left of a post to leave Postive feedback, the box that used to appear is covered up by the header page and the body of the post.

This star is blocking the header when you click it?

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/star.jpg

[Talent]

I like the changes. A lot has happened to the team over the off season and a fresh start is needed :)

[BlockParty]

This star is blocking the header when you click it?



User error, my apologies. I didn't realize the star for a particular post (to leave feedback) is at the bottom of the post, it used to be in the top right corner. So I was effectively scrolling to the very bottom of a post (hiding it except for the bottom footer line with the star) and clicking the Star, the post the website gremlins thought I wanted to leave feedback on was now almost entirely off the screen so it shoved the 'pop up' box for feedback behind the header of the next post.

[Scottley Crue]

Good job on the "fresh coat of paint", as you put it Ziggy. I really like the look.

[BIGCatBobcat]

ohhh, I like this quick reply. I was about to write a derogatory, anti-change message and I think this has made me change my mind.

[teej]

Hi TeeJ,

Just curious, what is your screen resolution?

1280x800


I should be able to change to the orange/gray cats for old and and new posts over the weekend.

Gracias, Senor.

Also, in the "New Posts" row, the New Posts button is all messed up. It's like it's been clicked, and the rest don't adjust.

[BRNC]

Welcome to the 21st century my friend. So glad you can join us :biggrin:

Toocool...here is the funny part of the story...we moved into this house 8 years ago...we've been promised DSL since we moved in...I checked with Charter Cable and was told it was not available...so tried Satellite for six months and got fed up...was out checking my power pole a week ago and looked like cable was there...damned if it has not been there all eight year...made Charter come out and verify and sure enough...the cable line has been there the entire time...:facepalm:

Makes me wonder how they stay in business not knowing where their lines run...:g:

[teej]

Charter Cable

That's all you need to say. They suck.

[BRNC]

Well...I'll say the internet part works Teej...I'm very pleased with it...

[teej]

Well...I'll say the internet part works Teej...I'm very pleased with it...

Just wait til they start "working" in your area...or the weather shows up...or they lose your bill...or anything else.

We had Roadrunner internet in Greensboro, never had an issue. We moved to Hickory in '06, and Charter's had to come fix the internet at least every 6 months. And it's out or slow a lot more than that.

Their tv coverage is even worse.

[bing!]

While we're slighty off topic, BRNC, how much do you pay for your broadband access and what's the downstream speed? Just wanna compare services. I'm on 1.5 Mbit/s for about 15$ per month.

@ziggy

Teej mentioned that the two menus (just below the BCP banner) are overlapping and it happens to me also (both with Chrome and Firefox, independent of resolution). It 'sorta' fixes itself if I don't run the browser in a maximized window (i.e. reduce the width just right).

EDIT: here's what I mean

- maximized window

http://i56.tinypic.com/118kec0.png

- smaller window (reduced width)

http://i56.tinypic.com/xmrimp.png

[ziggy]

Hey bing,

I did some experimenting with the minimum and maximum forum width. Is it still happening?

[bing!]

Hey bing,

I did some experimenting with the minimum and maximum forum width. Is it still happening?

The menus don't overlap any longer but the top one is aligned to the right and is getting shadowed by the search bar (1280x960).

On 1024x768 (and lower), the forum is a bit wider (about 70 pixels or so) than the window and slightly offset to the right thus forcing one to scroll horizontally to view it in entirety.

If I'm annoying you with these, just say so. :)

EDIT: if I scale the forum down to 70% (or lower), the elements are aligned properly

[BlockParty]

Something changed on the resolution, now you have to scroll over everytime you are reading a post. I'm using 1024 x 768, IE

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[ziggy]

The menus don't overlap any longer but the top one is aligned to the right and is getting shadowed by the search bar (1280x960).

On 1024x768 (and lower), the forum is a bit wider (about 70 pixels or so) than the window and slightly offset to the right thus forcing one to scroll horizontally to view it in entirety.

If I'm annoying you with these, just say so. :)

EDIT: if I scale the forum down to 70% (or lower), the elements are aligned properly

You're not annoying me at all
I appreciate your help!

Now Boris Diaw as our starting power forward ( THAT'S annoying :biggrin: )

[ziggy]

Something changed on the resolution, now you have to scroll over everytime you are reading a post. I'm using 1024 x 768, IE

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I decreased the minimum width... Is it still happening?

[BRNC]

While we're slighty off topic, BRNC, how much do you pay for your broadband access and what's the downstream speed? Just wanna compare services. I'm on 1.5 Mbit/s for about 15$ per month.

Bing...I went for the 16M/sec and I think it is 34.95/month...not sure on the price since I bundled...but I think that's what it is...I've checked my speed daily since the hook-up and I'm getting in the 24M range...but I also bought my own Modem...the newest Motorola SURFboard Extreme with DOCSIS 3.0....

I've heard similar "horror" stories like Teej described...but when stuck with dial-up I'll take my chances...:biggrin:

I will add that both my daughters, while attending App State, had Charter and never really had a problem...but they were also "in town" and I live out...so I'm expecting some problems but none for the moment...

[SWedd523]

I bet watching porno on dialup was a pain! :P

[BRNC]

I bet watching porno on dialup was a pain! :P

You have no idea...ROFLMAO....

[spectre]

Is it just me or is the headings "Album", Forum", "Groups" & "What's New" covering where "new posts" should be?

Heh...when I couldn't find it I almost didn't know what to do!

[bing!]

I decreased the minimum width... Is it still happening?

Well, the forum is center-aligned and it looks ok, but, yet again, the two menus are overlapping and the e-bay banner is covering the BCP one. :D

I guess you can't decrease the width without robbing the reserved ad-banner of its space. It'd seem that the forum still doesn't scale properly for 4:3 screens, oh well, I'll get used to it.

As for the menus, the top one (which is still aligned to the right) is getting pushed down and overlaps the bottom one as the browser window is collapsed horizontally.

[Toocool]

Still off topic, but DAMN 16MB/s?
Australia needs to catch up. Not to mention that it costs a truckload to have decent internet over here. Our internet system is pretty crap, probably always will be. :facepalm:

[ziggy]

I may create a second template that is better for 4:3 screens and allow people to choose the one that works best for their monitor :g:

[bing!]

Still off topic, but DAMN 16MB/s?
Australia needs to catch up. Not to mention that it costs a truckload to have decent internet over here. Our internet system is pretty crap, probably always will be. :facepalm:

OT

Oh, come on, you've got some pretty sweet providers over there...

Compare this...

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0,6,18

... to this...

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0,3,123

... and remeber, things could always be worse. :P

[spectre]

Is that what my issue is? It was fine yesterday.

[Toocool]

OT

Oh, come on, you've got some pretty sweet providers over there...

Compare this...

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0,6,18

... to this...

http://www.speedtest.net/global.php#0,3,123

... and remeber, things could always be worse. :P

Sweet providers? Not in Western Australia. All those companies listed are Eastern States. We get shat on constantly in everything.

Elections, they want to tax WA who kept Australia afloat during financial crisis. Now WA might go completely kaboom because of it (FYI it's a 40% mining tax on everything).

Then we get crap all in election promises, all parties that we vote for in WA are shockingly bad, or complete scrubs who don't even know what we're doing.

Australia, where WA gets effed


Wow at your internet speeds...

[BlockParty]

I decreased the minimum width... Is it still happening?

Fixed, very nice, much better than the Panthers defense on the first series.

[teej]

Bing...I went for the 16M/sec and I think it is 34.95/month...not sure on the price since I bundled...but I think that's what it is...I've checked my speed daily since the hook-up and I'm getting in the 24M range...but I also bought my own Modem...the newest Motorola SURFboard Extreme with DOCSIS 3.0....


That's not too bad. I've got the 54 mb, and it's great when it works. We've just had a ton of issues, we've changed modems three times.

[Plowright]

good work on moving the add from the top of the page!

[BRNC]

That's not too bad. I've got the 54 mb, and it's great when it works. We've just had a ton of issues, we've changed modems three times.

Teej...the new SURFboard I'm using from Motorola is "sweet"...I read great reviews before buying and it likes Charter...:biggrin:

[spectre]

I still don't have my new posts button!

[bing!]

I still don't have my new posts button!

Same here. It's making me depressed.

[SWedd523]

It works on my laptop (16x9) but not on my iPhone That darn Album link eats it. You have to click the lower right corner to get it to work.

[ziggy]

I still don't have my new posts button!


Same here. It's making me depressed.

Boom goes the dynamite :biggrin:

[ziggy]

It works on my laptop (16x9) but not on my iPhone That darn Album link eats it. You have to click the lower right corner to get it to work.

I think that I'm going to come up with a second tamer theme for people to choose from that should work on smaller screens... Also, that reminds me, I'll check also to see what kind of mobile options are available for this current theme.

[Plowright]

when i type in the search box nothing appears, well it does if you type for aggesss but its like your typing and cant see your word until you write a certain number of letters

[SWedd523]

I think that I'm going to come up with a second tamer theme for people to choose from that should work on smaller screens... Also, that reminds me, I'll check also to see what kind of mobile options are available for this current theme.

Try http://www.tapatalk.com/

[SWedd523]

p.s. thank you for the blue (old) and orange (new) posts icons!

[spectre]

Thanks Swedd on the clue about "pushing" up from the bottom corner.

Hey Zig:



Threads
6,453
Posts 119,441
Members 1,200
Welcome to our newest member, test_facebook_user (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/member.php?1683-test_facebook_user)

Way to go dude!

[ziggy]

Way to go dude!

I must admit that member 1200 was one that I created to play around with the Facebook functionality :facepalm:

But 1199 isn't bad. I think that we'll really start to pick up once training camp starts.
I'm guessing 1500 members by the all star break and 2000 by the end of the season unless the team implodes.

[Toocool]

Even if the team implodes, I have a feeling the core of BCP will still be here. Most of these planeteers have survived through the FHB, McInnis and perhaps even Bickerstaff. It's just another dark couple of years.

[BRNC]

I hate to say it but those of us that survived the FHB can survive anything...:facepalm:

[ziggy]

I hate to say it but those of us that survived the FHB can survive anything...:facepalm:

I agree with that. As a Bobcats fan, that season was a painful experience.
If it weren't for the laughs around this place, surviving that season as a fan would have been almost impossible.

[ziggy]

Fun with Tags :biggrin:

Look at what page you get when you click on the word 'bojangles' in this tag cloud (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/tags.php)

[Toocool]

Fun with Tags :biggrin:

Look at what page you get when you click on the word 'bojangles' in this tag cloud (http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/tags.php)

Sweet mother of mercy...that's extreme stuff right there. I won't spoil it...but hot damn.

[bing!]

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/ch_bing/banner_mad.gif

Ziggy is at it again.

[ziggy]

http://i477.photobucket.com/albums/rr138/ch_bing/banner_mad.gif

Ziggy is at it again.

:biggrin: I'm done for now. Added the chatroom to the game thread, I hope it doesn't blow anything up.

[SWedd523]

The Album link still eats the New Posts link up top :(

[ziggy]

The Album link still eats the New Posts link up top :(

Ugh. Forgot about that.
I promise that's next on my list.

[SWedd523]

It's weird because the New Posts toolbar is static and Auto-Formats to whatever screen size I'm on, but the What's New toolbar doesn't, it just sort of moves down to accommodate the other things on the page.

[ziggy]

It's weird because the New Posts toolbar is static and Auto-Formats to whatever screen size I'm on, but the What's New toolbar doesn't, it just sort of moves down to accommodate the other things on the page.

You normally connect by iPhone, Right? I'll install tapatalk so that you and other phone browsers won't have to deal with formatting issues.

[SWedd523]

Yeah it works on my computer because the resolution is so high, if I minimize the window to half-width though, it messes up. I think some other guys (spectre, bing) are having the same issue on their computers

[JamieMcNeill]

You normally connect by iPhone, Right? I'll install tapatalk so that you and other phone browsers won't have to deal with formatting issues.

Thats a great idea. (also a iPhone user)