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BigMike
09-28-2010, 01:38 PM
Size Matters:

The woes of not being Flordia, NY, or California.

Many top tier NBA players have let their agents know that they do NOT want to be traded to a small market team because, as in everything else in life, Size Matters.

I have heard quite a few people talking about Charlotte being a “small market”, and I felt there was some confusion about what that means. Yes we have a Metro population of 1.7 million and an actual City population of about 750, 000 making us the 18th largest city in the USA.

But markets are measured by television audiences not by population, lucky for us Nielson is nice enough to track and rank them for us.

We have had some movement in our television market size over the last decade: in 2000 we were ranked 37th, in 2006 we were ranked 27th, and this year we broke the top 25 and moved up to 23rd (Yay Charlotte!) The problem is that we added just over 200k television homes for that 14 slot jump, to break the top 20 we will need to add 300k more television homes. That’s a 25% growth spurt, so we have a while.

How is that considered small?

You may be asking your self, ‘with a top 20 population and a top 25 TV market how are we still considered small?’ The problem is the scale you’re using, and for the Bobcats we are on a sliding scale whose measurements are the other 31 teams in the league. Bookended by NYC with its 7.515 million TV homes at the top and New Orleans with is 0.635 million TV homes at the bottom.

Sadly we are still in the bottom third of that list. And until we get in the middle third we do not have a strong argument against our label as “small market”. And even then, we can expect that most reporters and commentators will still continue to call us a small market until we break the 2million mark TV home mark. We are sitting at 1.16 million now so I can not see that happening before I am old and grey.

To borrow a phrase from Coach Fox, “It is what it is.”

THE LIST:

Knicks #1
NJ Nets #1.5
----------------------------- 7 Million TVs
LA Lakers #2
LA Clippers #2.5
----------------------------- 5 Million TVs
Chicago Bulls #3
Philly 76rs #4
----------------------------- 3 Million TVs
Dallas Mavs #5
Golden State #6
Boston Celtics #7
Atlanta Hawks #8
Washington Wizards #9
Huston Rockets #10
----------------------------- 2 Million TVs
Detroit Pistons #11
Phoenix Suns #12
Minnesota Timberwolves #15
Miami Heat #16
Denver Nuggets #17
Cleveland Cavs #18
Orlando Magic #19
Sac Kings #20
Portland Trail blazers #22
** Charlotte Bobcats #23 **
Indiana Pacers #27
----------------------------- 1 Million TVs
Utah Jazz #32
Milwaukee Bucks #35
San Antonio Spurs #37
OKC Thunder #45
Memphis Grizzlys #48
New Orleans Hornets #52

Notes:
Toronto was left out because there is no reliable data on their TV market.
Cities Number 13, 14, and 21 are; Seattle, Tampa, and St. Louis. These are the only TV markets bigger then Charlotte with no NBA team.
The next 2 markets below Charlotte are 24 Pittsburgh and 25 Raleigh-Durham

BRNC
09-28-2010, 02:01 PM
Mice write-up Mike and good info...+1

Plowright
09-28-2010, 03:38 PM
Notes:
Toronto was left out because there is no reliable data on their TV market.
Cities Number 13, 14, and 21 are; Seattle, Tampa, and St. Louis. These are the only TV markets bigger then Charlotte with no NBA team.
The next 2 markets below Charlotte are 24 Pittsburgh and 25 Raleigh-Durham[/QUOTE]

Im not from the USA, but i do know there are some feeling towards Canadians... this article just proves it! lol

BigMike
09-28-2010, 04:26 PM
Im not from the USA, but i do know there are some feeling towards Canadians... this article just proves it! lol

I actually tried to find the total TV homes in Toronto but they dont keep track the same way we do in the states, but based purely on population they would be up there around Dallas and Sacramento in pure size.
But if you really want to feel bad: http://dimemag.com/2009/07/accept-it-toronto-youre-a-small-market-franchise/

Plowright
09-28-2010, 04:30 PM
aha love it

spectre
09-28-2010, 04:38 PM
Great stuff BigMike!!!

teej
09-28-2010, 04:42 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how San Antonio supports a team...love the research BigMike!

BlockParty
09-28-2010, 04:49 PM
I'm still trying to figure out how San Antonio supports a team...love the research BigMike!

Two well timed #1 draft picks in David Robinson and Tim Duncan that will probably end up spanning close to 25-30 years of a premier player leading their team. Plus the people in SA are insanely loyal to their home-town team.

SWedd523
09-28-2010, 05:40 PM
I can tell you exactly how San Antonio did it. Since drafting DRob in 87, they've drafted: Greg Anderson, Willie Anderson, Sean Elliott, Tony Massenburg, Tracy Murray, Chris Whitney, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Luis Scola, John Salmons, Leandro Barbosa, Beno Udrih, Tiago Splitter, Goran Dragic, George Hill, DeJuan Blair, and James Anderson.


When you draft talent like that and (more importantly) keep most of it in town, you're going to get a fan base

kickazzz2000
09-28-2010, 09:20 PM
Problem with these primadonna bitches is not only that you have to be a big market, but be a fucking glamourous, hollywood type locale...Philly's market does it no good when bitches like melo reportedly refuse to come here.

teej
09-28-2010, 09:47 PM
Problem with these primadonna bitches is not only that you have to be a big market, but be a fucking glamourous, hollywood type locale...Philly's market does it no good when bitches like melo reportedly refuse to come here.

Melo wants to go play where there's a dedicated fan base. He had the Knicks, Houston and GSW on his list, all teams with hardcore fanbases that show up even when their team is losing...becuase if they trade for him, they'll be losing.

Felton for Prez
09-28-2010, 10:17 PM
This just makes me like Kevin Durant that much more.

ohara831
09-28-2010, 10:24 PM
I can tell you exactly how San Antonio did it. Since drafting DRob in 87, they've drafted: Greg Anderson, Willie Anderson, Sean Elliott, Tony Massenburg, Tracy Murray, Chris Whitney, Tim Duncan, Manu Ginobili, Tony Parker, Luis Scola, John Salmons, Leandro Barbosa, Beno Udrih, Tiago Splitter, Goran Dragic, George Hill, DeJuan Blair, and James Anderson.


When you draft talent like that and (more importantly) keep most of it in town, you're going to get a fan base

Now that is the right answer!

BigMike
09-29-2010, 07:44 AM
Problem with these primadonna bitches is not only that you have to be a big market, but be a fucking glamourous, hollywood type locale...Philly's market does it no good when bitches like melo reportedly refuse to come here.

My Coworker asked me why I put Florida in the headline, and I had to point out that Miami at 16 (1,580,580 TVs) and Orlando at 19 (1,453,120 TVs) have no problems attracting high end talent and are not considered small market... Again Charlotte has 1,166,180 TVs

Chef
09-29-2010, 09:38 AM
florida has no state income taxes, nice weather in the winter and miami is THE beach town with a crazy nightlife. charlotte, milwaukee, utah etc has none of these. kickazz is right, philly fans are loyal to a fault with someone like melo. look at AI, randall cunningham, lindross, schmidt, kruk etc they love those guys and would come out no matter what. now donavan mcnabb was always seen as fragile and weak and they pounced on that. philly is a tough place to play (they boo their players worse than opposing teams) but they would love melo.