Missed lastnights game, How was dj's performance???

[truDUKEfan]

Had to work late and missed all sports lastnight, how did he do? I am going to the games this week but I wanted to get your guys opions on how he ran the team since it was the first game on tv? his numbers looked decent. I hate how we won and all espn did was show highlights of F&^%4ng LBJ and bosh, its b.s. we never get no love even when we beat the new dream team......."We will have our day":paddle:

[TattoodCats4life]

I felt he did well. Much much better than collins and much more up beat tempo than Felton, and much more likely to take the shot if he had it. I'm comfortable with DJ.

[Plowright]

Showed a nice pull up jump shot from the FT line which apparantly he has been working on, he shot lights out and prob deserved more assists its just miami kept fouling (and Hendo got blocked out!!!)

[ammofan]

He looked great. I feel alot better with him as starter after last night.

[Plowright]

Look how HENCH DJ looks on the game blog on bobcatsbreak.com He's got some guns!!!

[ND22]

He looked great. Looked like a little vet out there. 6-8 shooting, 3-3 from the 3pt and 4-4 FT is exactly what you'd want from him.

Looking at the boxscore can I also make the case that Derrick Brown better be getting some minutes this year? Every box score I see has him as one of our leading scorers off the bench. The guy has been instant offense.

[Jennings]

I think he looked really good. The first couple games I was worried about his assist, but after watching the game I noticed that a lot of time someone else brings the ball down and starts the offence. I think they will use the pg position more for scoring this year. I don't think that's a bad idea, especially since we have a pg that can shoot. He's not doing things he can't do. Hopefully he can keep it up.

[truDUKEfan]

Thanks guys i feel better knowing ur thoughts,I think im starting to get stoked tip off is in about a week......Lets go cats

[GoBobs]

He had some plays where he shook his man and got open at the corner of the free throw line and buried the jumper. Looked a little bit like Arron Brooks at times. If he can do that consistently he will eventually draw extra guys to him in the center of the floor and have all kind of options for assists. Making his threes is nice but with this team being able to produce a good look for yourself is huge. He needs to look to score all he can. The more aggressive he is with his shot the better it is for the team.

[CatNation]

looked like a vet. shoulda had 3-4 more dimes too, had some guys miss some easy looks or get fouled off his passes.

[Quavis]

I agree about ESPN. I saw at least three awesome highlight worthy plays from Thomas and DJ and a couple others that they didn't even mention anywhere. You'd think getting beat down by the Bobcats would be enough to shut them up about the Heat monopoly. I mean, the Cavs had a pretty stacked team and caused a lot of hype when they brought on Shaq and look what happened. You'd think by now that they would wait to see before jumping the gun and make like the Heat are unbeatable. There is only three of them and they can't play every minute of every game. Sometimes it feels like ESPN doesn't even watch basketball.

[TheDorkLord]

I was pretty happy with what I saw last night from DJ and mostly the whole team. I actually thought Collins didn't look too bad for an undrafted rookie.

[Jennings]

I was pretty happy with what I saw last night from DJ and mostly the whole team. I actually thought Collins didn't look too bad for an undrafted rookie.

I was thinking the same thing. I was impressed. He kinda looked like a shorter heavier Ray. (Looks only)

[teej]

DJ was a lot better than I expected, but he still had some bonehead plays, like when he tried to run the fastbreak with 3 men back, or when he went to the hoop with LeBron trailing him. Those are the types of rookie mistakes he has to get rid of, but other than that he was solid. Boris looked horrible trying to run the offense, but Jack was decent. Once Kwame gets back, the center spot should be pretty solid, and if Eddie Najera does anything the 4-spot will be an advantage. Tyrus looks a lot better, and if Boris shows up, that'll be a bonus. Hendo looks awful, plain and simple. And LB said as much in the postgame presser, so I doubt he'll get any PT. Ever. UPS looks a lot better, but much of that is beating up on 3rd and 4th stringers. He should still be solid in spot minutes though. Visually, Matty looked really out of place. Not counting hte fact that he's the first white guy to wear the new uniforms (other than Vladi, but that doesn't really count), those unis just don't look good on white skin. But whatever. He played a lot more well-rounded, and his closeout D was solid. Darius Miles must be bipolar, because some plays he looks like an All-Star and others he looks like my brother. But I wouldn't be shocked if he makes the roster, he's a lot better than Collins, the only thing Sherron has in his favor is PG is a position of need. If we somehow swing a trade that leaves us with an open roster spot, I'd expect Miles to be there. I think that's everyone. Oh, and Matt Rogers, if you think I forgot about you, I did.

[DY_nasty]

Henderson looked awful? He looked about average aside from when he got blocked by LeBron. Collins looked borderline useless. Miles looks fine as long as no one ever passes him the ball - and since thats the case, I'd much rather have Derrick Brown taking all of his minutes.

The craziest thing was Diop and Carroll. Carroll played good... which is surprising considering he didn't do anything at all in Dallas. Diop actually looked like he knew what to do with the ball and wanted it. It was freaky watching Diop. He didn't even look like the same player.

[teej]

Henderson looked awful? He looked about average aside from when he got blocked by LeBron. Collins looked borderline useless. Miles looks fine as long as no one ever passes him the ball - and since thats the case, I'd much rather have Derrick Brown taking all of his minutes.

Re: Hendo - He was 2/5 in 30 minutes, and shot no free throws. If he wants to play, he's going to need to play on offense just as much as D. His 6 rebounds are nice, but Darius Miles had 5 in barely over half the minutes Hendo got. Darius also got to the FT line while also going 2-5 from the floor. If your lottery pick isn't outplaying a guy who hasn't played in 3 years, that's a really, really bad sign. And it's happened for a while now. Hendo has never shown anything other than decent man to man defense. His rotations are poor, his offense needs a lot of work, and his athleticism isn't being used. But whatever, average in the preseason means bad in the regular season, so I agree with you.

Re: Collins - Agreed. He was 1-3, that one shot he made was a 3 pointer, he made no 2 pointers or free throws, which means he was just hanging out by the three point line. Not a good sign. And he had as many fouls as assists (3).

Re: Miles - Yeah, but Darius is more like Stevie Graham. Scoring would be an anomaly, but his defense keeps him on the court. I have to say, he's been a pleasant surprise.

Re: Diop - Yeah, when I first saw him shoot I thought Nazr was still in the game. He's a LOT better.

Re: Carroll - Dallas never played him, and they didn't need to. But yeah, he knows what LB expects and he's doing his damnedest to get PT. Gotta love it.


The craziest thing was Diop and Carroll. Carroll played good... which is surprising considering he didn't do anything at all in Dallas. Diop actually looked like he knew what to do with the ball and wanted it. It was freaky watching Diop. He didn't even look like the same player.

[DY_nasty]

Here's the thing, how he's supposed to contribute on offense where Darius Miles and Diop are given more priority? Its not fair to expect him to make something out of literally nothing. He's already busting his ass grabbing boards and playing good defense (most of the time), how about throwing the kid a bone on offense LB? The one time that he actually got his number called - a screen off the right elbow - he made it, and made it look easy. Meanwhile, Darius Miles got forcefed as soon as he checked into the game.

And Collins is a mess. Against the nobodies that Miami had out there, you'd think he'd feel a lot more comfortable while being aggressive. Instead he threw late passes, didn't run anything as a real point guard, and let more people walk right by him than a wal-mart greeter.

[spectre]

Augustin is proving doubters wrong so far (http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/20/753145/augustin-is-proving-doubters-wrong.html)

Good article.

[spectre]

Can Brown Win Without a Star Point Guard? (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=17614)



But instead of focusing on the trade rumors or negativity, Augustin has delved into Brown's teachings.

"The longer I'm with him, the more things he says get clearer," Augustin said. "It's not how he says it. It's what he says. You've got to listen to the message. And that's what I've been trying to do and I think I'm getting better."

Augustin's biggest advantage is his familiarity with the team and star players Gerald Wallace and Stephen Jackson.

"I know where those guys like to be, where to spot up, where they like the ball," Augustin said. "It feels good knowing those things before the beginning of the season."

The early reviews haven't been great. After the Bobcats lost the preseason opener to the Cavaliers, 87-72, Brown told the Charlotte Observer, "We've got to figure out a way to create some easy shots. We just run up-and-down helter-skelter."

Augustin has averaged just 3.25 apg during the preseason, but he's committed only four turnovers in the four preseason losses.


This article was written on 10/15, so the last couple of preseason games hadn't happened yet.

[SWedd523]

Augustin is proving doubters wrong so far (http://www.newsobserver.com/2010/10/20/753145/augustin-is-proving-doubters-wrong.html)

Good article.


The line from that article that speaks VOLUMES to me is:


I asked Augustin Monday night, following the victory in Miami, what's changed about him. He said whatever success he's having he owes to the support of teammates.

That response goes so much deeper than what it seems.

[spectre]

...meaning Jax, Crash, etc. are helping him deal with LB?

If they weren't of the mindset to help DJ I don't think there was any way he could succeed.

[SWedd523]

As I posted in the Detroit game thread, Jack seems to be personally taking it upon himself to watch out for DJ--especially in regards to LB. Both times DJ got pulled out after a mistake, Jack came from the end of the bench and stood in front of LB to high five DJ and walked with him all the way down the bench. All after the LB "whuuuuuut" face/shake.


That quote was definitely an understatement

[BigMike]

The one thing you can not qualify on a box score is chemistry. And I really feel like Dj, crash, and Jack are developing that.

[spectre]

Wallace Sees Bobcats Making Necessary Adjustments (http://www.bobcatsbreak.com/?p=2830)


D.J. is learning the role of the starting point guard, and as we’ve seen him get more comfortable with the offense, the more comfortable the offense has seemed to run. That only comes with time, and in the past four or five weeks he’s got more comfortable and the offense is starting to click a lot better now. He knows that, “I’m the starter. This is my team and I’m going to go out and get everybody in position. Through the good times and the bad times, I’m still going to be out here as the head of this team on the court.” Once you get that understanding that even if you mess up you’re not going to get pulled out, you have to realize you need to keep your head up and help the team fight through it. He’s starting to realize that and his confidence is getting better because of it.

That’s great to see because we need to have someone else step up with Raymond gone. I know I’ve had to take on a bigger role here already. You have to be more verbal and be more into things now from day-by-day. Our team is young and we lost a lot of guys, so we have a lot of new pieces and guys that we’re trying to get accustomed to Larry Brown’s style of play. It takes being there on the court and on the sidelines to kind of help these guys through because Larry Brown isn’t the type of coach who lays back. He’s always pressing and some guys get down because of it, but we have to keep their confidence up. We’ll find out where we are here when preseason ends and we get ready to go to Dallas.

Heck, maybe it's MJ's strategy to have the PG backups so bad LB can't pull him if he does bad. If it is he's going to have to trade Boris.

[Ghost Kat]

Wallace Sees Bobcats Making Necessary Adjustments (http://www.bobcatsbreak.com/?p=2830)



Heck, maybe it's MJ's strategy to have the PG backups so bad LB can't pull him if he does bad. If it is he's going to have to trade Boris.

I'm all for anything that gets rid of Diaw. I don't think this team can handle another year of his half ass play.

As a full paying member of the "Start DJ" fan club it's great to see all my "Start DJ" pillows and cell phone covers won't go to waste

[BlockParty]

Heck, maybe it's MJ's strategy to have the PG backups so bad LB can't pull him if he does bad. If it is he's going to have to trade Boris.

Our front office has done that before @ the PG position. When they cut our starting PG Jeff M because Ham Biscuit wouldn't stop playing him.

[spectre]

Our front office has done that before @ the PG position. When they cut our starting PG Jeff M because Ham Biscuit wouldn't stop playing him.

I think it had more to do with a certain player locking a certain (idiot) coach out of the locker room during halftime...but I could be wrong.

I do think they let Knight go to open the door for Felton.

[BlockParty]

I think it had more to do with a certain player locking a certain (idiot) coach out of the locker room during halftime...but I could be wrong.

I do think they let Knight go to open the door for Felton.

I was pretty good friends with a high level Bobcats employee then (no longer there anymore)...and it was all about Sam I am not listening to Rod/MJ about reducing Jeff's minutes for the benefit of figuring out if Raymond was our PG or not....Sam didn't listen and the only way to make sure Sam didn't play Jeff was to boot Jeff out of the organization. They put a spin on it at the time that "it would allow Jeff to find a playoff team, clear waivers and fill in as a veteran". I think he's been playing at the Y ever since.

The Locker Room incident was a player unity thing (we actually won a few games in a row shortly thereafter..hurt our draft position actually).

[truDUKEfan]

hey who locked who out of the locker room? I dont think i'out ve heard that story b/4. Could one of YOu tell me it? thanks fellows

[BigMike]

hey who locked who out of the locker room? I dont think i'out ve heard that story b/4. Could one of YOu tell me it? thanks fellows

First I've heard of it also.....

[spectre]

The Locker Room incident was a player unity thing (we actually won a few games in a row shortly thereafter..hurt our draft position actually).

So you did hear about it?

At the time someone threw it out there as an afterthought...not sure if it was Bonnell or not, but I don't think it was him.

From what I remember that was around the time the players decided to just ignore the Idiot and play the game...and yes we did start winning a little bit.

Didn't McInnis get cut right after the incident? That's why I always figured it was him.

[teej]

So you did hear about it?

At the time someone threw it out there as an afterthought...not sure if it was Bonnell or not, but I don't think it was him.

From what I remember that was around the time the players decided to just ignore the Idiot and play the game...and yes we did start winning a little bit.

Didn't McInnis get cut right after the incident? That's why I always figured it was him.

It was a writer for the WSJ I think.

And for those wondering, after a game I think in March, the players locked Sam out of the locker room postgame. Nothing official ever came out but it's never been denied.

[BlockParty]

It was a writer for the WSJ I think.

And for those wondering, after a game I think in March, the players locked Sam out of the locker room postgame. Nothing official ever came out but it's never been denied.

As I recall..it was a player unity meeting (just happened when Sam was trying to get into the lockerroom). The jist of the meeting was...Yes we have a moron for a coach, no there is nothing we can do about, no we can't strangle him like he's PJ Carlisimo, so let's tune him out, play ball and have fun). I think the game was vs the Knicks, in Late February..they lost 2 nights later at the Celtics in a relatively close game, then won 5 games in a row. From the Celtics game forward, they played 2 games above .500 the rest of the season and still finished with a 32-50 record.

http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2008_games.html



http://www.basketball-reference.com/teams/CHA/2008_games.html

[dvdbumpus]

I think DJ will be more effective for us than Felton, because he can actually shoot. I liked Raymond, but never thought he was anything special to give a MLE to.