LB Resigns

[ohara831]

http://www.nba.com/bobcats/release_brown_101222.html

[SWedd523]

From bobcats twitter:

#BreakingNews @bobcats Chairman & CEO #MichaelJordan announced #LarryBrown is stepping down as head coach.

[WAM9]

I just saw the same thing. We all knew it was coming. It is time.

[SWedd523]

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[ohara831]

I guess Hanners takes over for a while and MJ will look for someone else while giving Hanners a test run?

[WAM9]

I guess Hanners takes over for a while and MJ will look for someone else while giving Hanners a test run?

I was just wondering that as well. I think you are right that Hanners takes over short term but I don't think that will last very long. I expect a long term solution announced within the next 2 weeks or so.

[SWedd523]

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[spectre]

Holy shit!

Guess I should stop my defense of LB in the other thead. :facepalm:

Who's taking over...Hanners?

[stun704]

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[ohara831]

Winners never quit, and quitters never win.

[SWedd523]

Can't post this one on RGM either:


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[cls77]

Can't fault Larry Brown completely for the way the team is playing. That said, its hard to figure out how a 70 year old coach can relate (and rally) to an NBA squad these days. Hopefully the next coach brings out a more aggressive style of play in the guys, because watching home games, win or lose, have been painful this season.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

All I can say is that for good or bad I am thrilled LB is finally gone. Now hopefully there are some more changes to come. A coaching change may be enough but I don't see it. This team is hamstrung without making a few wholesale changes. I prefer the team builds through youth and if possible gets at least one star though FA.

[ohara831]

I have it now!!! Diaw is being traded by MJ and LB is so upset he is quitting because of it!

[cls77]

I can see the headline now.... "Larry Brown Resigns. Team Didn't Play The Right Way"

[bing!]

I was grinning for a good minute when I heard about this over on Yahoo!.

... damn, I'm still doin' it.

So, now what? Charlotte Phoenixes?

[adam187]

Holy Shit.

Thanks for the playoff run last year, LB, but I'm glad we're moving in different directions now. I'm sure you feel the same way.

[adam187]

Dominic McGuire is pissed!

[ohara831]

Bring on Mark Jackson!

[ballwhore]

Been moon walking and grabbing my crouch since after last nights game when he told members of the team. My cowboys got rid of a bullsh#t coach and responded now hopefully my bobcats will. We still need some trade though:biggrin:

[SWedd523]

Been moon walking and grabbing my crouch since after last nights game when he told members of the team. My cowboys got rid of a bullsh#t coach and responded now hopefully my bobcats will. We still need some trade though:biggrin:


The trade is coming, don't you worry ;)

[ballwhore]

The whole coaching staff is gone..so don't count on hanners coaching

[WFU4LIFE]

The whole coaching staff is gone..so don't count on hanners coaching
Wow that's crazy. Any idea of the candidates. Also, FUCK YEAH!

[Fred Williamson]

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[ohara831]

The whole coaching staff is gone..so don't count on hanners coaching

I repeat. Bring on Mark Jackson! Smart, and he played with the attitude that MJ appreciated. I think that they will think alike and be on the same page.

[Marvel]

Fuck Yeah Fuck Yeah and Fuck Yeah

MJ FTW

[SWedd523]

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[Bobcats_Basketball]

soooo this is on Espn Insider

According to Sam Amick of FanHouse, a source close to the Bobcats has indicated the entire Bobcats staff has been let go, so a replacement won't come from his assistant-coaching ranks. Amick also tweeted a Brown successor is expected to be in place by Thursday.

[G-Force]

New coach expected to be announce tomorrow.

Please don't let it be another of MJ's buddy.

[adam187]

Heres a link to firing everyone.

http://www.sbnation.com/nba/2010/12/22/1892174/michael-jordon-bobcats-coaching-staff-fired-larry-brown

Good call ballwhore.

[ziggy]

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/17693163388936193

Potential Candidates: Paul Silas, Patrick Ewing, Mike Woodson

[WFU4LIFE]

Paul Silas? Dude is 67. Bring in someone younger that will bring some fire to the team.

[Felton for Prez]

I hear Sam Vincent is available.

[mrfargo]

354Is that a new tattoo?

[Chef]

the next decision is more important than any trade we will make. and i do hope we will be making trades.

[G-Force]

Oh I can't believe this shit... How are those coaches a long term plan?!

[ohara831]

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/17693163388936193

Potential Candidates: Paul Silas, Patrick Ewing, Mike Woodson

Dont want Woodson. Ewing as an asst coach is good, but I want Mark Jackson as HC! Damnit!

[winthropbobcat]

Byron Scott? Larry Bird?

[G-Force]

Are you serious? Bryon is coaching cavs, bird is the main man in indiana.

[ohara831]

Wonder about the available Van Gundy?

[Black]

Mike Brown?

[cls77]

Looks like its already Silas
http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/17699514504716288

[Fred Williamson]

Looks like its already Silas
http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/17699514504716288

if it's just for the remaining games of this joke of a season, I don't mind

[DirtyU11]

IMO Silas is not in the "long term" category. Mark Jackson and Van Gundy would be great but I doubt they want to come here and have a complete rebuilding process which is what is needed with the team we have now.

[BlockParty]

Silas would be a great short-term solution. He did a great job during the Hornets exit and had that team over-achieving.

The switch is perfect timing (if that makes sense), this 5 day break is the second longest one of the regular season (AllStar Break is 6 days). I'm just glad MJ had the balls to pull the trigger. Now it's time for the players to put up or shut up (they have no more excuses), even though 99.9% would agree that Larry needed to go, the players have been slack at best as a collective group and embarassing to watch & support.

Let's turn the page and move forward.

Go Bobcats!

[ohara831]

Looks like its already Silas
http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/17699514504716288

If we are only going to give him the job for the balance of the season, then I say tank it! Tank the whole damn thing! And I am against tanking, but if you are going to go interim for 2/3 of a season, that is just a bunch of crap.

[ballwhore]

Yeah but get what the old bastard did after the game..He told DJ, Jack , and a copleof there quote "I'm done with this shit now ya'll go tell Michael since ya'll don't listen to me." F#cking really just all out quit. I wish I had the e-mails from last year when I was telling ya'll f#ck LB.....Just flat out quit ...BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAATTTTTCCCCHHHHHHHH:biggrin:

[teej]

Paul is the perfect guy to try to save the season. He is a great motivator and is hugely popular in the area.

Hallelujah, Christmas done come early!!!

[cls77]

Paul Silas hasn't coached in the NBA in 5 years. If you think 67 year old that far removed from the NBA is a wise move I'd say go ahead and bring in Chuck Daly but apparently he died last year.

[SWedd523]

No. Forget salvaging the season. Forget another 35-40 win season where we maybe scrape into the playoffs only to get smashed.


Blow. This. Sucker. Up.

[Weezy21]

I liked silas but would much rather have ewing

silas is old and would only be for the rest of the year…if we are going to start making trades to rebuild, i want a coach who would be longterm so he can give input on what type of players he wants

[TheBeagle]

Not asking for any rep points because, like the Marvel Comics "No Prize", asking for it automatically means you won't get it, but I called this back in September on this pre-season prediction thread (bottom of the page):

http://www.bobcatsplanet.com/vb/showthread.php?11500-Let-s-have-YOUR-Bobcats-season-preview


LOL Can't help but laugh at the phrase "Crash 'n Jack's leadership"; oxymoron much?

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To say it was an unfortunate end to the relationship would be an understatement, but it was so easy to see coming down the pike that it's not at all surprising. I've been pretty hard on Larry during his tenure, so instead of bashing him further, I just want to thank him for the good he did do here, including the multiple franchise records broke last year including the first post-season appearance. Also, if MJ had handled the situation correctly, Larry wouldn't've been here in the first place this season. Add to that the miscreants on his roster who traded in their professionalism by giving up on Larry but had no qualms about still collecting their paychecks and it is easy to see Larry doesn't deserve as much of the hate as he has been given here.

Very glad in the timing of the news as well so that he can spend the holidays with his family in Philly; that's really cool. Add to that it seems to have been a fairly amicable split with MJ and we finally have a good enough conclusion to this situation, as good as can be expected.

Thanks for two good years, Larry and sorry you had to get dragged into the beginning of a dismal third.

[Felton for Prez]

Yeah but get what the old bastard did after the game..He told DJ, Jack , and a copleof there quote "I'm done with this shit now ya'll go tell Michael since ya'll don't listen to me." F#cking really just all out quit. I wish I had the e-mails from last year when I was telling ya'll f#ck LB.....Just flat out quit ...BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAATTTTTCCCCHHHHHHHH:biggrin:

Hopefully that will help motivate them now that he's gone. Spite is a pretty good motivator.

[dunnlx]

Hehehehehe, that's funny as hell man.

[TheBeagle]

Yeah but get what the old bastard did after the game..He told DJ, Jack , and a copleof there quote "I'm done with this shit now ya'll go tell Michael since ya'll don't listen to me." F#cking really just all out quit. I wish I had the e-mails from last year when I was telling ya'll f#ck LB.....Just flat out quit ...BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAATTTTTCCCCHHHHHHHH:biggrin: Dude, I love you, ballwhore and I know you're on the biased side what with DJ and all, but do you really blame him for saying this? It's the truth after all. They gave up on him and didn't listen to him. I probably woulda said the same thing.

[Proudiddy]

Yeah but get what the old bastard did after the game..He told DJ, Jack , and a copleof there quote "I'm done with this shit now ya'll go tell Michael since ya'll don't listen to me." F#cking really just all out quit. I wish I had the e-mails from last year when I was telling ya'll f#ck LB.....Just flat out quit ...BEEEEEEEEEEEEEEAAATTTTTCCCCHHHHHHHH:biggrin:

I was thinking during this stretch, "Where is Ballwhore, things have got to be boiling over between the players, LB, and MJ..." I figured a big move would bring you back, lol. How is DJ feeling about this? Doesn't surprise me LB is a quitter, he's the oldest crybaby ever.

I wish we were going straight with a guy like Mark Jackson, who I think would be great with DJ and let him play his game, and knows what he's looking at as a more modern PG. LB was out of touch and didn't want to be here. But, if Silas is the temp. guy, I think that'll be alright too b/c he helped bring along BDiddy back in the day.

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[Weezy21]

but isn't silas not really a player's coach?

he remember him banning rap music from the the cav's locker room...thats unnecessary...if he did that here, jackson and a few others would be pissed from the get go

[Proudiddy]

Article on it, cites letting Felton go as part of the reason LB wanted out... Also, I didn't know he was unhappy with the Tyson trade, I felt like he didn't care. I'm starting to wonder how much of this really was LB's fault. How many coaches would want to coach with their owner doing shit like this (John Fox)? I also didn't know MJ was in cost-cutting mode b/c of the CBA, I thought he was just doing it to avoid the luxury tax for this year. Wow this rough.

http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/12/22/larry.brown.resigns/

The abrupt departure Wednesday of Larry Brown as coach of the Bobcats had been brewing since last summer, according to multiple league sources. Brown was unhappy with the cost-cutting trade that packaged center Tyson Chandler to Dallas for the non-guaranteed contract of Erick Dampier, who was then waived by Charlotte.

Another source of contention was the departure of point guard Raymond Felton. Though Brown wasn't a big fan, he didn't want to see Felton leave as a free agent unless he was replaced by a full-time starter. But the Bobcats have been unable to afford replacements at either position. In the meantime Felton has put up All-Star numbers for the surprising Knicks, while Chandler has galvanized the Mavericks' defense to raise their championship hopes.

Since buying majority control of the Bobcats last year, owner Michael Jordan has been attempting to lessen the payroll in anticipation of a new collective bargaining agreement that promises a better opportunity for a small-market franchise like Charlotte to compete against the NBA's richer teams. The 9-19 Bobcats rank 20th in NBA attendance at 15,592 per game, which is almost 20 percent under capacity.


Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/ian_thomsen/12/22/larry.brown.resigns/index.html#ixzz18snX6pPC

[TattoodCats4life]

We need to make a long term coaching decision, and a good one. I'd take just about any of the options listed here except for Silas, I think we've learned that old style bball don't work in today's NBA. That said I want the new coach to come in here with a 'learn the players this season, fix it for next' type attitude. I'm fine if we get an early lotto pick this year and finish with 25-30 wins. I'm all for trading Diaw, Jax, etc, but I still think I'd like to keep GW (I think his whole thing was larry this season), grab some picks, and rebuild. See if we can't trade some of the "junk" that larry signed like Mcguire and Najera.

[WAM9]

Do we really need a "players coach" or just a coach period?

Who cares is Jack gets pissed? He (and a lot of other players) need someone to whip their asses into shape. Not the way LB was doing it but again, who cares if Jack or anyone else gets pissed?

[SWedd523]

Silas is more of a players' coach, willing to develop young talent, and doesn't focus as much on the X's and O's.

[ammofan]

This is crazy........I bet we see some deals happen now that MJ isnt trying to make LB happy.

[ziggy]

I've said this before, and I'm sure that it would never EVER happen because of his and MJ's past playing relationship, but Bill Laimbeer is going to make some team a very good coach one day.

[Proudiddy]

Somebody over at ROF said they heard from some writer on Hoopsworld that we're discussing trading Crash to Portland for Wes Matthews, Pryzbilla, and a 2nd rounder... *VOMIT*

[Twan's Kin]

Bring in Hubie Brown as coach.

[ammofan]

Somebody over at ROF said they heard from some writer on Hoopsworld that we're discussing trading Crash to Portland for Wes Matthews, Pryzbilla, and a 2nd rounder... *VOMIT*

whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.............STOP NOW.

[Proudiddy]

whoa, whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa whoa.............STOP NOW.

Yeah, if they did a move like that, they may as well pack up and move the franchise, that's turribul.

Wes Matthews is straight, but he ain't a centerpiece to any deal we'd want to be a apart of.

But, I'm worried that if MJ is cutting-costs for the CBA that it could be very likely. He should go after guys on their rookie deals though if that's the case.

That article I posted also mentioned us possibly being interested in sending Diop and Diaw to Orlando for J-Rich back.

[ammofan]

Yeah, if they did a move like that, they may as well pack up and move the franchise, that's turribul.

Wes Matthews is straight, but he ain't a centerpiece to any deal we'd want to be a apart of.

But, I'm worried that if MJ is cutting-costs for the CBA that it could be very likely. He should go after guys on their rookie deals though if that's the case.

That article I posted also mentioned us possibly being interested in sending Diop and Diaw to Orlando for J-Rich back.

I agree, and Im all for bringing j-Rich back!

[Fred Williamson]

Somebody over at ROF said they heard from some writer on Hoopsworld that we're discussing trading Crash to Portland for Wes Matthews, Pryzbilla, and a 2nd rounder... *VOMIT*

wow, seriously???????? :facepalm:

[GoBobs]

Don't put off breaking up when you know you want to. Prolonging the situation only makes it worse. Tell them honestly simply, kindly, but firmly.

[Chef]

No. Forget salvaging the season. Forget another 35-40 win season where we maybe scrape into the playoffs only to get smashed.


Blow. This. Sucker. Up.

yes yes yes

[Proudiddy]

Don't put off breaking up when you know you want to. Prolonging the situation only makes it worse. Tell them honestly simply, kindly, but firmly.
I had my own car, I was popular. I never stay long, I'm unpopular. I always waste picks, I got a younger chick (in Philly)...

[Absinthe]

I'm not a Larry Brown apologist, but he was a good coach. He coached the team to their first playoff appearance, for example. He was also instrumental in building the team. If he didn't go after Stephen Jackson last year then there's a good chance they wouldn't have made the playoffs. Crash was an all star under Larry Brown. A lot of times, he had the right idea, but things didn't work out. Tyson Chandler could have made the Cats a very good team last year, but he was injured. Jordan had unrealistic expectations. Read the ESPN article and tell me he wasn't delusional. He thought that this roster was a playoff team? He didn't think the loss of Felton was a big deal? Part of the reason why this team is so bad is because they trot out DJ and Mohammed. Replace those two with Felton and Chandler and I bet you their record is easily 7-10 games better than it currently is. Also, the players quit on Larry Brown. Sure, he likes to play mind games and he is petty, but he gets results. There's no excuse for players to quit playing hard and to get blown out by some of the worst teams in the league. A coach won't fix this because they'll quit on the new coach too (if things go the least bit rocky). It should also be noted that he traded away Jason Richardson and got good players in return (it ended up being essentially Diaw and Jackson). He also traded for Tyrus Thomas and that was a good trade. I think a lot of Bobcats fans are going to realize that this team's problem is not the coach. You can replace Larry Brown with virtually any coach in the league and they won't be much better. Not even Greg Popovich or Jerry Sloan could coach this team to a playoff spot with the way they're set up.

A lot of this falls on Jordan. He did absolutely nothing with the Dampier contract just so they could save money. The best owners are the ones that are willing to spend money. The Lakers, Mavs, Spurs, Heat, Celtics, and Magic are all top teams in the league for a reason--their owners pay big money to get talented players.

[rsxnova]

Somebody over at ROF said they heard from some writer on Hoopsworld that we're discussing trading Crash to Portland for Wes Matthews, Pryzbilla, and a 2nd rounder... *VOMIT*

Only if we can throw in Jackson for Batum.

[Nata Fresh]

Wait, we have folks on here DEFENDING LB, did we not see what he pulled in Detroit OR New York??? He did the exact same things there that he did here.....

[Proudiddy]

Also, Bigslam @ RGM is talking about something I was thinking about this morning... I saw the blurb on RGM that Melo was going to miss tonight's game due to a death in the family or something like that...

Well, is it just a coincidence that Melo is missing tonight's game and we fired LB today?

[SWedd523]

I don't think Melo can decide when a famiily member dies.

[ammofan]

Also, Bigslam @ RGM is talking about something I was thinking about this morning... I saw the blurb on RGM that Melo was going to miss tonight's game due to a death in the family or something like that...

Well, is it just a coincidence that Melo is missing tonight's game and we fired LB today?

HMMMMMMMMMM!!!!!!! I wish! and hope....

[Chef]

Also, Bigslam @ RGM is talking about something I was thinking about this morning... I saw the blurb on RGM that Melo was going to miss tonight's game due to a death in the family or something like that...

Well, is it just a coincidence that Melo is missing tonight's game and we fired LB today?

are you saying what i think your saying? larry killed melo's family member. damn he is gangsta

[Proudiddy]

I don't think Melo can decide when a famiily member dies.

But, you know... Have you ever called out of work when your 4th cousin died?

[ballwhore]

@beagle I can't balme him or them this is what always happens. The players were not feeling Larry Brown and he wass't feeling them so hell time to say goodbye. This happens all the time. What was really laughable is him saying he runs sets he used in the 70's ..Hellooooooo...that's the damn problem and while DJ is my dude his body language and the way he started to play is not what we expect as fans but man going to work in a situation where you can't win no matter what will wear on anyone no matter how much you make a coach that don't want you there a role that changes every game shoot more pass more dont shoot so much dont pass so much. I have seen DJ win on every level walk across half court firing or driving for over 10 years now all of sudden that shit stops.(Let everyone else tell it he is soft) let me tell it f#cking LB ruins...He was intimedated by flip please he was pissed flip was inserted in front of him. Hell! how many players have said they loved to play for Larry Brown 2 out of 50 years of coaching? How many young players has he developed? Danny Mannig even said f#ck Laryy Brown..F#ck Larry Brown

[adam187]

I don't think Melo can decide when a famiily member dies.

But Charles Oakley can.

[ammofan]

Charles Oakley a "strong" possibility to join the Bobcats staff...

[Absinthe]

And I really don't understand replacing an antique of a head coach with another antique. I don't care if it's only temporary or not.

I want a lot of these players off this team. Yeah, Larry Brown was old school, stuck in his ways, and quick to play mind games, but he's a proven winner. Some of the players (most of the players) quit on him and got their way. If players will quit on a coach once they'll do it again. As nonsensical as Larry Brown could be, he was also coaching a bunch of quitters that wouldn't listen.

And Larry Brown was 100% right about the Chandler trade and Felton leaving. DJ shouldn't be a starting PG in this league and going from Felton to DJ has obviously impacted the team. Jordan should be ashamed of getting Dampier only to waive him so he could save money. Attendance will never be high and this team will ALWAYS be a small market team. I don't think attendance has been particularly high since the days of Larry Johnson and Alonzo Morning.

[x2pacalypse]

wait so is larry brown currently killing members of melo's family or not?

[Proudiddy]

wait so is larry brown currently killing members of melo's family or not?

Waiting on confirmation, but I have strong indications that he keeps that ratchet on him.

[Chef]

Somebody over at ROF said they heard from some writer on Hoopsworld that we're discussing trading Crash to Portland for Wes Matthews, Pryzbilla, and a 2nd rounder... *VOMIT*

i think we need to squeeze miller out that deal but i would love to have matthews, dude can drop buckets. he is young, pretty cheap and is going to get better.

[ziggy]

Based on Crash's level of play this season along with his constant risk of injury, that trade does not deeply offend me.

[ohara831]

Based on Crash's level of play this season along with his constant risk of injury, that trade does not deeply offend me.

Agreed. I like that big expiring of Przybilla, and Wes is going to be a stud. But I would love to get Miller from them somehow without giving much up.

[Chef]

Agreed. I like that big expiring of Przybilla, and Wes is going to be a stud. But I would love to get Miller from them somehow without giving much up.

or insist on batum instead of matthews. take pryz and send him to the magic for jj before they figure out he is good and doesn't need the ball to score which makes offenses productive. flip dj for thompson, build on jj, batum, thompson.

[SWedd523]

I'd rather have Batum.

[ammofan]

I asked Tommy Beer of Hoopsworld:
Whats next for the Bobcats? Any trades coming soon?
He answered:
With LB out of town, Charlotte may start a rebuilding effort... Will be interesting to see what MJ has in mind, now that he does not have to run anything by Larry Brown

[ohara831]

I'd love to get Batum, no question. But I think Wes Matthews has the potential to be a breakout superstar soon. Bottom line for me is I see Batum and Matthews as having a fairly high ceiling still, and I think we have seen Crash's ceiling reached. And this injury bug that keeps biting him over and over is getting very worrisome.

[Dlpz87]

I'd find it hard to believe Portland would be willing to deal Matthews with Roy's health so seriously in question. But at this point, I'm with Ziggy, I wouldn't be completely against that deal. I'd prefer a 1st instead of Pryz tho. Matthews would provide some much needed offense and JAX should have no trouble switching to SF.

Oak and Silas gives my current city team a run for their money in terms of coaches who could crash the boards (Rambis and Lambieer [sp?]).

Screw it, if it becomes evident by mid-January that our playoff hopes are doomed, I hope MJ just blows up the roster, gets all the building capital he can get via trades before the deadline and we move on from there. The key to that would be for MJ to have a pretty firm idea as to who our next HC would be, so that he's not picking up guys who wouldn't mesh well/be used by a future coach.

[dnbman]

Very glad in the timing of the news as well so that he can spend the holidays with his family in Philly; that's really cool. Add to that it seems to have been a fairly amicable split with MJ and we finally have a good enough conclusion to this situation, as good as can be expected.

Thanks for two good years, Larry and sorry you had to get dragged into the beginning of a dismal third.

Yeah. I don't think this is all Brown's fault, and I think he did make a lot of our players better. That being said, sometimes it's best to go separate ways. The only thing I want for Silas to do is to help management make smart decisions on trades and build back the brotherhood in the locker room, the sense of self respect, respect for each other, and respect for the organization. Don't care about winning at this point.

[dnbman]

We need to make a long term coaching decision, and a good one. I'd take just about any of the options listed here except for Silas, I think we've learned that old style bball don't work in today's NBA. That said I want the new coach to come in here with a 'learn the players this season, fix it for next' type attitude. I'm fine if we get an early lotto pick this year and finish with 25-30 wins. I'm all for trading Diaw, Jax, etc, but I still think I'd like to keep GW (I think his whole thing was larry this season), grab some picks, and rebuild. See if we can't trade some of the "junk" that larry signed like Mcguire and Najera.

I understand wanting a long term solution. However, our team has NO identity right now. I wonder if the best path might be to trade for youth and picks, see where we're at draft wise, and then choose a coach that can best use the parts we have.

[ziggy]

Ric Bucher's take on it

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9g5lTF7C4SM

[dnbman]

HA! I just pulled the trade talk from this video in another thread.

[TheDorkLord]

Here we go... about time the wheels started turning. Ballwhore, when I first heard this I was waiting to see what you had to say. Thanks for the input. It is amazing how quickly things change. Last summer I was hoping LB stayed with the team, but I have been ready for him to leave lately. I don't remember the game, but we had just won and DJ had a good game... what does LB do? He makes a beeline to DJ and starts telling him what he did wrong... sorry, but definitely not the right time and if he does that after a game just imagine how bad it must be in practice.....

I don't think Paul Silas is the worst thing to do in the short term, but I'm hoping MJ has a "big plan" in mind where we bring in someone for the long term to help build this team. I don't think this will be a quick turn around. We have too many bad contracts and not enough capital to work with, but at least it has started!!

[Toocool]

Thanks for everything LB. You are crazy, I've hated you at times but you've done a lot for this franchise, and for that I will always be grateful. All the best in your future!

[spectre]

Guess this can be my eulogy to Larry Brown...

After the train wreck that had been happening under the watch of Bernie and then Jordan (see just about every move made between inception til LB's hire) and ESPECIALLY after the Dark Ages of Sam "Idiot" Vincent I was ecstatic Dean Smith made MJ hire Larry Brown. Sure he had a reputation, but after all those years of Bobcats going only under the mantra "Play Hard" and doing it like a group of street ballers it was way past time to teach our guys how to actually "Play The Game The Right Way".

Larry Brown did that. Crash said himself he'd never had a coach teach him how to actually play the game. He went from a "hustle" guy to an All Star and made the NBA All Defense first team. We saw the change he made in Felton...to slow the game down in both mind and body.

He brought in ball movement, and he brought in a strong defensive philosophy. He gave us an identity.

He made us into the NUMBER ONE DEFENSIVE TEAM IN THE LEAGUE. Think about that. No small feat to be sure.

After MJ made these last summer moves it was time to let LB go. It's a shame it had to drag out thru these 30 +/- games, but regardless this franchise is MUCH better for the 2 years he gave us. We went from a laughing stock and being dismissed on teams' schedules to a team to watch out for.

Larry Brown did that.

Good luck to him in the future.

[BRNC]

Spectre...I agree and like what you've said...I've always viewed LB as a two year fix for any team and was sad he did not leave at the end of last season...I do appreciate what he helped us accomplish and we should all be grateful to him...

[amour217]

For old time's sake...and because I couldn't resist...

http://i1108.photobucket.com/albums/h408/chrisperez4/Wheel2.jpg

[Ghost Kat]

The one thing I WILL NOT miss the most is the "LB type of guy". Although I like having Livingston as a back up LB has been dying for a big PG since he got here. We are actually lucky he found him in Livingston. Raymond was a LB guy but damn if LB didn't rip him while he was here. Then when he left, LB probably showed up in his bedroom, " Look, I made you a painting". Random Mcguire is the worst. I mean he hustles, but thats it. Honorable mention to all the random NBADL players we've had.

LB fuck your slow the pace down style. You didn't learn that from Dean Smith. Fuck you for breaking down and building back up DJ. You probably ruined his scoring skill and he'll probably need therapy. Fuck you for letting our young guns waste on the bench. Fuck you for Alexis Ajinca. Fuck your stupid rotations. Fuck you for giving Diaw more minutes then his fat ass deserves, Capt. Jack too. Fuck you for being a Hall of Fame teaching/practice coach as sucking so bad at the actual game. You have almost a 1000 losses for a reason. Fuck you for this roster, you wanted these guys, and you suck.

Larry Brown I will miss your status but not you.