Nazr has some post up skills

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I as well as others have said in the past that the Bobcats needed a 5 with some solid post skills and at the time I myself said that it was true. However since we acquired Nazr Mohamed I feel we actually have that. Nazr has shown that when he is isolated one on one with a lot of teams 4's or 5's that he can score with his back to the basket. We hardly used him that way with Larry Brown as a head coach. I am hoping Silas will try to utilize him in that way. If Nazr can not do it there is no harm no foul in my opinion. We will at least try it out. Last night he did not score in the low post but he was given the ball there with double teams meeting him. If he is enough of a threat to draw double teams he will not need to score down low. He will open up outside shots for his teammates. I say he is enough of a threat to at least get the ball down low a half dozen times a game. If he scores that only makes things better. The double teams will come and the open set shots will be waiting.

I am sure most of you will disagree but I myself feel that we have to allow Nazr the chance to be a threat in the low post. If he can not do it we will know that we need to get a big man with that ability. Just my opinion.

[BETCATS]

I've been a supporter of Nazr ever since we acquired him for Herman and Primo. He was a starter on a Spurs team that won a title, he knows how to get shit done.
But his minutes need to be budgeted, he is getting older and if we want stable production from him the entire season we cant overload him/push him too hard for too long.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I've been a supporter of Nazr ever since we acquired him for Herman and Primo. He was a starter on a Spurs team that won a title, he knows how to get shit done.
But his minutes need to be budgeted, he is getting older and if we want stable production from him the entire season we cant overload him/push him too hard for too long.BET I agree but my point was that people are saying we need a big with post up skills and I myself know that Nazr has that talent. What we need now is a big who is a solid defender and can shoot consistently from a decent range. Nazr can shoot but to me he would be best served close to the basket. We need a 5 that can step back from a fairly decent range and hit shots. Let Nazr be our low post threat. He can hit shots closer to the basket and if he does hit shots further out that is a bonus. All in all I just think we need an athletic 5 who has a consistent outside shooting touch. I am all for limiting Nazr's minutes.

[Carolina Swagger]

Nazr is just a big body

if he was that good in San Antonio, they would have resigned him..

[BobCatsFanInTx]

Nazr is just a big body

if he was that good in San Antonio, they would have resigned him..I don't agree. Nazr is more than "just a big body." San Antonio did not need his skill set being that Tim Duncan did not require much rest. The fact is that Nazr has shown post moves and decent shooting skills from a short range. I myself have seen enough of Nazr to know he is no "just a big body!!" For a big body we have Diop and Kwame Brown. Nazr is older now and he is best suited to use his real skills coming off the bench. However he can post up, I have seen him post up and he should at least be used in such a way that he is taking double teams inside. He may not be Tim Duncan but he is good enough to be seen as a modest threat inside. That is enough to free up shooters some during games.

[SWedd523]

We've had Nazr for how long and we're just NOW putting this thread up?


Sure Nazr has some post moves, but I've seen him blow just as many layups and bunny shots as he's made. Plus he's 49 years old so when I say I want a player with post moves, I want a player with post moves that can play more than 25 minutes a game.

[Ghost Kat]

I am sure most of you will disagree

I disagree

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I disagreeThat is fine. Nazr may be old but you don't waste his possible skill set by not allowing him the chance to show he has one. Is it really going to hurt trying to get him a few one on one post up situations during games? I agree we could per say use a young buck with post skills but for now it sure as hell is not doing us any good not trying to attack from the post with Nazr. Whatever, it does not matter. When Nazr is played like just another big body that is what he will be. If he is given the opportunity to contribute as more than that he may surprise. If he is a no talent hack just taking up space we will at least have explored his potential outside of blocking shots and getting in peoples way.

[Ghost Kat]

My problem with Nazr isn't really his post up skills. Its his slow old body. It doesn't have to be a young buck but atleast give me someone that didn't go to highschool with Brett Favre. I watch Nazr out there and what I see is someone with bad footwork, cant jump, cant run in a face paced offense who probably plays under 20 minutes for a reason. I'll admit Nazr isn't total trash but I'll be overjoyed when his contract is up.

[CatNation]

his game is that FT line jumper which he is decent at.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

his game is that FT line jumper which he is decent at.He has enough of a post game that he should get the ball inside just enough to tease defenses with it. He has shown some skills in that regard and it can't hurt to pass it to him in the low post early to see what we can expect. If he screws up there is no harm no foul but if he shows he can score from that position it creates more opportunities for his teammates. I am not saying we should feed him the ball regularly for the heck of it. I am saying we see if he presents that option for us. There is no real danger trying it early in every game and seeing what happens. It is a win if he can perform in that situation. If he can't we utilize him in the best way for him and us. Coaches should never be afraid to push their players into trying to do things that they would not normaly do. That is how you learn what they are about. I know practice should show what they are capable of but their is a difference between practice and what a game can bring out of a player. Nothing is really lost for trying to challenge a player to perform outside their comfort zone at least a couple times in a game. Doing so can pay off. No matter. What will be will be. If our team wins I could care less what the coach decides.

[SWedd523]

I'm missing the point of argument. We feed him the ball... When he plays.

The issue is he plays like 20 minutes so he's not in the game enough to "tease" anybody.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I'm missing the point of argument. We feed him the ball... When he plays.

The issue is he plays like 20 minutes so he's not in the game enough to "tease" anybody.I disagree Swedd. He is in games plenty early and feeding him the ball in the low post a couple of times in his dare I say the terrible "ONLY 20 MINUTES" is enough to utilize the low post game. All our Centers should be given the ball in the low post a couple times a game. Even if they are not a real threat in that situation some extra offense can be created off the perception of a threat from that position. Fuck minutes, it is not about how many minutes a player plays but how you make use of those minutes. You guys are the basketball geniuses so I will digress to you. I just know that Nazr has shown some skill in the low post and should be given the ball there a couple times a game to see if he can score and add an extra threat to the team. Scoring in the low post has nothing to do with age or being SLOW. Teams that at least have a player that can score on occasion from the low post have an extra threat and they free up shooters due to that threat. I could care less but I am just saying that we do have a player with some low post skills and when he is facing weak to middle of the road 5's he should be trying to score off the low post. Age does not have squat to do with him having the skill to score with his back to the basket. If he does not do so it is no big deal. I hardly see how there is a indifference to trying him there a few times a game early. As I said, if we win I could care less so there is nothing left to discuss. You can close this thread now because it is useless on this forum.

[SWedd523]

When Nazr is in the game, he gets the ball. I've seen many games where the first 3 or 4 possessions go to him. So I don't really understand where you're coming from. Hell, we even dump it down to Kwame and Diop so it's not like we don't use them.

My point is. There aren't any Centers on the roster capable of playing 35 minutes a night. That's the issue. Not that we don't have any good Centers.

[teej]

My point is. There aren't any Centers on the roster capable of playing 35 minutes a night. That's the issue. Not that we don't have any good Centers.

I think Kwame is "capable" in the sense that unlike the other two, he wouldn't collapse of exhaustion.

But yeah, our 5's are subpar.