Thomas out 2 months!

[mrtarheel]

Tyrus Thomas is reported to be out 8 weeks with atorn meniscus in left knee.
http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_the_nba/2011/01/thomas-out-eight-weeks-meniscus-tear.html

[ohara831]

Holy crap. Just when we are trying to make a run for the playoffs.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6043096

[ziggy]

We're going to have to count on Boris for some heavy minutes. Also, UPS will probably find his way off of the inactive list now.

[Dcarnys]

Blessing in disguise?? Highly doubt it

Lottery pick ftw...... Shit!!!!

[ammofan]

GODDDDDDDDDDDDDDD NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!!
This is HORRIBLE HORIBLE news and I love what Tyrus does but we can still make the Playoffs without him. Its time to deal a few select guys though no doubt....

[Black]

God damnit.

[davcbow]

It figures ... just when we are making a turn to make a run for the playoffs ...:o

[Chef]

maybe it will force our hand to part with jax, crash, nazr for an attempt at a rebuild. although i don't have alot of faith in the FO to make good deals. i just was on realgm, big cat has been busy writing "bobcats pass" at all of the crap/lowball offers for crash. the public perception from the speculation article about the cavs deal has hurt his value. good thing the gm's are the ones who count and not the fans.

[SWedd523]

Imagine if Portland would've kept Tyrus. That'd be 6!!!!!!!!!!! people out extended minutes when torn knee ligaments this year.

[Boomer]

crap, just when I was started to feel lukewarm about this team

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

Hi guys I just posted a new blog post about what i think the Bobcats should do to replace Tyrus Thomas .Let me know what you guys think
http://sportsguyshow.blogspot.com/2011/01/this-is-how-bobcats-should-replace.html?spref=bl

[DY_nasty]

This may be the last time anyone sees Derrick Brown play in a Bobcats jersey.

Be there for the memories. Be there for the lulz.

[Marvel]

Final chance for UPS, make or break time young fella. What you got? Please bring more than dunking.

[teej]

Time to find this years Theo/Juwan. Any ideas?

[TheBeagle]

I admit he's had a couple big games for us this year, and his shot blocking will be missed dearly, but I don't think it's all that much of a setback. Admittedly, I've never been big on Tyrus, so I guess that skews my view on the news a bit, but really, losing Tyrus Thomas won't affect out playoff chances one way or the other. What sucks is the loss of depth in an area where we weren't deep to begin with. Derrick Brown? Ugh. If you don't get PT under Larry, that's one thing; if you don't get PT under Paul, you don't deserve it. The bright spot is, maybe this injury opens up the possibility for dealing Jack? Please?

In short, the injury hurts, but isn't a crusher. Go Cats! (oh, and trade jack)

[DY_nasty]

I admit he's had a couple big games for us this year, and his shot blocking will be missed dearly, but I don't think it's all that much of a setback. Admittedly, I've never been big on Tyrus, so I guess that skews my view on the news a bit, but really, losing Tyrus Thomas won't affect out playoff chances one way or the other. What sucks is the loss of depth in an area where we weren't deep to begin with. Derrick Brown? Ugh. If you don't get PT under Larry, that's one thing; if you don't get PT under Paul, you don't deserve it. The bright spot is, maybe this injury opens up the possibility for dealing Jack? Please?

In short, the injury hurts, but isn't a crusher. Go Cats! (oh, and trade jack)I agree. Tyrus was never consistent enough in the first place. Its hard for me to consider his injury a huge loss. If he could stay out of foul trouble or in favor with the coaches long enough to stay in the game, it was always more of a "Surprise! Tyrus is playing well" sort of thing.

I'd rather call up some guys from the D-League than pick up some old vet though. You never know, we might get lucky and find a serviceable young role player.

[Plowright]

I need a new sig :(

[Proudiddy]

anyone else wonder if this is how the injury really went down? I find it weird to go to sleep and wake up with a torn meniscus... I'm just saying... You would probably know if you at least hurt something...

[Chef]

I agree. Tyrus was never consistent enough in the first place. Its hard for me to consider his injury a huge loss. If he could stay out of foul trouble or in favor with the coaches long enough to stay in the game, it was always more of a "Surprise! Tyrus is playing well" sort of thing.

I'd rather call up some guys from the D-League than pick up some old vet though. You never know, we might get lucky and find a serviceable young role player.

tyrus does commit his fair share of donk plays that make you stare at the tv in disbelief, but he does have the most consistent mid-range shot on the team. another part of it is our guards need to do a better job in the KYP department. "know your personnel". alot of times thomas is given the ball when he can't handle it or is too far from the rim.

[Chef]

anyone else wonder if this is how the injury really went down? I find it weird to go to sleep and wake up with a torn meniscus... I'm just saying... You would probably know if you at least hurt something...

he knew it was hurt, it was swollen after the game. i ran around on a torn meniscus for 3 months before i had surgery.

[Toocool]

Noooo, the player I was sponsoring :facepalm:

[SCBobcat]

he knew it was hurt, it was swollen after the game. i ran around on a torn meniscus for 3 months before i had surgery.

Thank you, Chef. And please expound on the injury. From what I know a meniscus tear is not even close to being as serious as ligament damage. In fact, Ty may not need all 8 weeks. The surgery is more of a poke than a cut. This is not a panic situation. It does, however, mean that he'll miss both west coast trips and maybe our Texas trip. That is where we would need his energy.

[Chef]

Thank you, Chef. And please expound on the injury. From what I know a meniscus tear is not even close to being as serious as ligament damage. In fact, Ty may not need all 8 weeks. The surgery is more of a poke than a cut. This is not a panic situation. It does, however, mean that he'll miss both west coast trips and maybe our Texas trip. That is where we would need his energy.

i rehabbed on my own. dr's gave me a window of running by 6 weeks, i ran my first mile at 4 weeks. it was sore for awhile. i would say he could be back as early as 4-6 weeks if we really really needed him for a playoff push. i would say if we are fading or out of it keep him out for 8-10 and make sure he is 100% before bringing him back. as long as they don't have to remove the whole meniscus, it really isn't much to worry about. they don't "repair" or sew the meiscus because of it being cartildge and in the middle of your knee, there isn't a good blood supply and it doesn't heal well. so what the do is remove the damaged portion. the more they have to remove the more your femur and tibia will be bone on bone (think brandon roy). if it is mild (which it sounds like it is) nothing big, if it is removed it could hurt his athleticism down the road.

[Proudiddy]

Thanks for clearing that up Chef. I understand the meniscus injuries are much less "noticeable" upon happening than a ligament injury, but I didn't know he already knew something was wrong. The way it was written up, it sounded like he was fine and had no problems whatsoever with the knee, then took a nap, woke up and he was injured.

I know some people can tear their meniscus and not even know something is wrong for days to weeks because it isn't a disabling injury like ligaments would be and symptoms aren't always as obvious. Only thing that bothers me is IIRC, meniscus injuries can have long term effects and can lead to more serious problems down the road.

[Proudiddy]

i rehabbed on my own. dr's gave me a window of running by 6 weeks, i ran my first mile at 4 weeks. it was sore for awhile. i would say he could be back as early as 4-6 weeks if we really really needed him for a playoff push. i would say if we are fading or out of it keep him out for 8-10 and make sure he is 100% before bringing him back. as long as they don't have to remove the whole meniscus, it really isn't much to worry about. they don't "repair" or sew the meiscus because of it being cartildge and in the middle of your knee, there isn't a good blood supply and it doesn't heal well. so what the do is remove the damaged portion. the more they have to remove the more your femur and tibia will be bone on bone (think brandon roy). if it is mild (which it sounds like it is) nothing big, if it is removed it could hurt his athleticism down the road.

Yeah, that's what I was referring to regarding long term, that they cut away what tore off... That's what led Amar'e to get microfracture surgery. He took about a year and a half to get back right, and didn't lose much athletically, but you see so many guys like Roy, Darius Miles, Anfernee Hardaway, etc. that just go downhill after having these type of injuries.

[Chef]

Yeah, that's what I was referring to regarding long term, that they cut away what tore off... That's what led Amar'e to get microfracture surgery. He took about a year and a half to get back right, and didn't lose much athletically, but you see so many guys like Roy, Darius Miles, Anfernee Hardaway, etc. that just go downhill after having these type of injuries.

most of those guys had previous problems, so the accumulation led to microfracture. i have never heard of any complaints of problems in the past so if this is a perpherial tear and they don't have to remove much, it should be no big deal. trainers/teams are much better at assessing when to send someone back to avoid microfracture down the road.

[WAM9]

I had a meniscus tear about 8 years ago also.

They ultimately had to remove about 70% of my medial meniscus. They originally told me 6-8 weeks recovery as well. I went to professional PT for about 3 weeks after surgery and was running in 4 weeks. I was back on the court playing at about 80% in 5 weeks and basically 100% in 6 weeks.

The only difference from what I know and what Chef wrote is that they do have options of repairing meniscus but it is far more rare. It depends on the type of tear and is not possible in all instances. Repair is better for you long term because of the bone on bone thing but can take up to 6 months to fully heal. Removal of the torn part is far more common though and sounds like what they are expecting for Tyrus.

The doctor told me that I would develop arthritis in that knee due to the bone on bone but it is 8 years later and it still feels great. I was 32 at the time of my injury (and not a pro athlete) so I expect Tyrus to be just fine. I've heard reports of athletes returning from meniscus tears in as little as 2-3 weeks. Since it is mid January now, I expect Tyrus to be back on the court playing in games by early to mid March. That gives us plenty of time for our stretch run.

This is bad news for sure but it is not the end of the world and most probably won't be a long term issue for Tyrus. Maybe this will give an opportunity for some other players to get more minutes and develop (primarily Hendo) and we can look back on this as a positive that made us deeper and overall better by the end of the season.

[itsbcbaby]

Dom will be the guy to get first shot to step up. Let's pray he doesn't get jumper happy.

http://www.82games.com/1011/10CHA8.HTM

I think somebody should print this out and show it to him. 58% of your shots should not be jumpers when you shoot them at a 20% clip.

[CatNation]

I wonder if this could have been prevented by giving him a week or two off when his knee soreness started (~2 weeks ago?). perhaps by then it was already too late? medical staff should have been on top of this more imo.

[Fred Williamson]

Dom will be the guy to get first shot to step up. Let's pray he doesn't get jumper happy.



oh good god, no :facepalm:

[DY_nasty]

tyrus does commit his fair share of donk plays that make you stare at the tv in disbelief, but he does have the most consistent mid-range shot on the team. another part of it is our guards need to do a better job in the KYP department. "know your personnel". alot of times thomas is given the ball when he can't handle it or is too far from the rim.
A lot of it is him getting the ball, looking directly at coming double, then driving straight into it instead of passing...

[rsxnova]

A lot of it is him getting the ball, looking directly at coming double, then driving straight into it instead of passing...

I think your talking about Jack.

[DY_nasty]

I think your talking about Jack.
Swag is infectious.

[itsbcbaby]

Good work tonight by the backup PF committee. Najera airballs a 3, McGuire tries a behind the back pass that gets picked off, and UPS misses a runner off of the backboard. UPS managed to get a rebound and an assist.