Bobcats without Jackson in 4th - Who's the new go-to guy?

[DY_nasty]

I think we all know that (either) Gerald isn't the guy.

Assuming we deal Jackson for an expiring that never suits up, who's the new #1 option?

[Josh Lancaster]

maybe hendo can get it done?

[stun704]

maybe hendo can get it done? Hendo has definately shown flashes, he won't be ready til next year IMO hes still a rookie, because of LB, but hes definately shown the killer instinct only a few superstars have with the game is on the line.

[ziggy]

Defensively Hendo certainly can be "That Guy". He had a nice 4th last night, but Offensively he still has quite a ways to go.

Maybe in the 4th, DJ can be that guy.

[ammofan]

IDk....I have been wanting DJ to have the last shot for a while now. But maybe we can get someone in a trade that could be the #1.

[teej]

There isn't one. That's why Jack is still around.

[Chef]

jax hasn't proven he should be the guy anyway. don't think it would really matter. what is the difference between a hendo, crash or dj miss or turnover and a jax miss or turnover?

[ziggy]

jax hasn't proven he should be the guy anyway. don't think it would really matter. what is the difference between a hendo, crash or dj miss or turnover and a jax miss or turnover?

The Swagger :biggrin:

[Toocool]

jax hasn't proven he should be the guy anyway. don't think it would really matter. what is the difference between a hendo, crash or dj miss or turnover and a jax miss or turnover?

Wrong Ziggy. It's the walk up to the ref/stare at him for an abnormally long period of time.

[Felton for Prez]

Assuming we deal Jackson for an expiring that never suits up, who's the new #1 option?

Why are we assuming this? Just a hypothetical or did I miss a rumor somewhere?

[Chef]

Why are we assuming this? Just a hypothetical or did I miss a rumor somewhere?

hypothetical but based on rumors it is about his trade value to a contender. maybe a late first too.

[DY_nasty]

Why are we assuming this? Just a hypothetical or did I miss a rumor somewhere?
Because I don't live in fantasy land where we get Tyreke Evans and a 1st for Jack. :/Realistically speaking, an expiring and late 1st is the best we can hope for in a trade regarding Jackson.

Defensively, Henderson is a game changer late game. He's been consistent with that, even including that late 3pt foul the other night.

I'd love to see DJ be that guy, but I think the crater that LB left in his mind is still too big. I'd feel a lot better about it if the dude could actually draw fouls.

[TheBeagle]

jax hasn't proven he should be the guy anyway. don't think it would really matter. what is the difference between a hendo, crash or dj miss or turnover and a jax miss or turnover? Absolutely. Jack has had a boatload of chances this year alone and always comes up empty. Has anybody in the league, who considers themselves a clutch performer at least, missed as many open 3s in the clutch as him? Last night showed that Junior is willing to TAKE the big shots which is huge, not to mention the fact he MADE big shots. Like others, I don't think this is to be expected night in and night out from him, but does show that there are different, better alternatives than giving it to Jack by default because he talks a big game of being a clutch player. Free up DJ with high screens, and GW with down screens, I'm cool with giving those guys big shot opportunities as well, DJ moreso than GW.

[110oldeast]

I guess the "make love to pressure" facade is officially gone.

I think DJ still has to be the guy until someone is here. I disagree about him being able to draw a foul, as I don't think there is a close 2nd on our team for being able to draw fouls. He gets the little guy protection in that if he initiates contact or flops, he has a much better chance of getting to the line
than Crash, Jack, or anyone else. In fact, I have said all year that in part due to the fact that refs treat DJ better respectively than anyone else on the team, he should be taking the final shots.

What he needs to work on is that in between floater to complete his offensive package.


Because I don't live in fantasy land where we get Tyreke Evans and a 1st for Jack. :/Realistically speaking, an expiring and late 1st is the best we can hope for in a trade regarding Jackson.

Defensively, Henderson is a game changer late game. He's been consistent with that, even including that late 3pt foul the other night.

I'd love to see DJ be that guy, but I think the crater that LB left in his mind is still too big. I'd feel a lot better about it if the dude could actually draw fouls.

[DY_nasty]

Even with the complete bs tech on Wallace, he still gets more calls than anyone on this team. I love the guy, but he's one of the best floppers in the league when he wants to be. I've seen DJ get jettisoned into the 3rd row behind the goal way too many times to believe that he'll ever get consistent bailout calls...

[TheGayKid]

Jack is no Drazen or Peja, nor is he a Ricky Davis or Michael Dickerson. What is he? A player of weaknesses and anger. I would ask to trade him, but he's worth about a buck and quarter

[110oldeast]

Not even close. DJ already gets plenty of calls without being a household name. He draws the handcheck fouls, body fouls, and other calls that more elite pgs get called even if at a lesser frequency. The refs have caught onto Wallace and he does not get the same respect that he did previously which is part of why he has picked up the techs he has this year. And G-Force and DJ are both pretty strong floppers. However, DJ is more likely to get the call on the offensive end. Maybe 2-3 years ago this would have been different, but it's pretty clearcut at this point. Combine that with the fact that he can make plays from the middle of the floor unlike Crash who is primarily a baseline guy and it only reiterates why it should be DJ.

As far as Jack goes, running a play for him where he is posted is a good option, but out of a 1 4 set is a terrible option.


Even with the complete bs tech on Wallace, he still gets more calls than anyone on this team. I love the guy, but he's one of the best floppers in the league when he wants to be. I've seen DJ get jettisoned into the 3rd row behind the goal way too many times to believe that he'll ever get consistent bailout calls...

[Absinthe]

Why are you even entertaining this? If they get rid of Jackson or Wallace then it's going to be a move that signifies a complete rebuild. When a team is in the middle of a rebuild who cares who is taking shots in the crunch time? It won't be like those shots will be potential game winners. This team will be lucky to win 20 games if they decide to rebuild.

[DY_nasty]

Why are you even entertaining this? If they get rid of Jackson or Wallace then it's going to be a move that signifies a complete rebuild. When a team is in the middle of a rebuild who cares who is taking shots in the crunch time? It won't be like those shots will be potential game winners. This team will be lucky to win 20 games if they decide to rebuild.
I'm curious Absinthe, do you still watch games? Since Silas has taken over, there's only been one 'bad' loss for this team (NOH) and the squad's playing above .500

btw, this draft is crappy anyways... a tough first round exit will be just what these young players need to grow while we tank it up next season for all the guys who won't come out of college this year!

[Absinthe]

I'm curious Absinthe, do you still watch games? Since Silas has taken over, there's only been one 'bad' loss for this team (NOH) and the squad's playing above .500

btw, this draft is crappy anyways... a tough first round exit will be just what these young players need to grow while we tank it up next season for all the guys who won't come out of college this year!

I watch some of the games and my opinion remains unchanged. It doesn't matter if Brown, Silas, or Popovich coaches this team they're only going to hover around the .500 mark. It's a talent issue.

And yes, the upcoming draft is weak, but that shouldn't stop them from rebuilding if that's truly what they want to do. Get rid of the big contracts/bad contracts, shed salary, and get young players in return. I just don't understand how a fan can be content with first round exits.

[Chef]

I watch some of the games and my opinion remains unchanged. It doesn't matter if Brown, Silas, or Popovich coaches this team they're only going to hover around the .500 mark. It's a talent issue.



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