Old School Rap versus the hot garbage masquerading as rap today

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There are a lot of young people (much younger than me :biggrin: ) here on BCP. I challenge you to convince me that there is any rapper in this generation that is anywhere close to the old school rappers that truly created quality music.

There is no one in this era that can hold a candle to KRS-One, Rakim or a half dozen others that I could name.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AmutXdqksIY

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E7t8eoA_1jQ

Go ahead. Prove me wrong

[Chef]

question from an old school guy: where do outkast, common, jay-z sit? they all started in the golden age but have continued through to the apocalyptic wasteland that is today's rap music scene

[SWedd523]

The only new age guy who can hold a candle to the real stuff is Eminem. Other than him, I guess Kanye is the closest.




Here's a song with Foxy Brown (laughs at people saying Nikki Minaj is better)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KcyIT6QijAA



I don't even like Biggie that much, but this shits on anything out today

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R50OziK5_no


Old school Jay-Z

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JC7MJ8l73SQ



And somebody who never gets any love but is one of the greatest as far as I'm concerned, Mos Def

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Rx5aVI2zsFE

[Ghost Kat]

I can't hardy stand new aged rappers. But these are some of the youngins I listen to.

Jay Electronica ft. Jay Z
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J7q8xhsCaL8

I love the MLK intro
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f3m1BZYfQ3o

Joel Ortiz...Hip Hop's Abe Lincoln trying to free us from wackness
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A0UsdW91IN0

J. Cole....Fayetteville NC's own
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W2jWkwCHgaU

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question from an old school guy: where do outkast, common, jay-z sit? they all started in the golden age but have continued through to the apocalyptic wasteland that is today's rap music scene
I would consider Jay-Z old-school. Common, Oukast, Mos Def, Talib Kweli and that group came along just slightly after what I would consider the Old school period. During this time period they were still producing a lot of quality music. I'm a huge, HUGE Mos Def fan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPFcJTbVfkw

[Chef]

I would consider Jay-Z old-school. Common, Oukast, Mos Def, Talib Kweli and that group came along just slightly after what I would consider the Old school period. During this time period they were still producing a lot of quality music. I'm a huge, HUGE Mos Def fan

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mPFcJTbVfkw

i think we talked about this before but there are certainly different ages: i call the golden age 1990-1997/98/99, i consider old school the bronze age, but i definitely think the height came during the golden age. i think i am a few years younger than you (31) and the golden age hit right through my high school years so that could be a big part of it but there was so much variation from east coast to west coast/gangsta, to afro-centric, to non-classifiable pharcyde, das efx, "weed rap" etc and even the southern stuff started to really hit ghetto boys (west coast/southern mixture), ugk, outkast, goodie mob, mystikal.

[Ghost Kat]

The version with Slick Rick on it is better of course.

More NC bias....Sean Price & Ruck
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UR-ndBko8TQ

Little Brother....But Phonte is the beast of the group. They went to UNC-Central in Durham when i was at Fayetteville State
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HJ3kopQlRjU&feature=related

[dnbman]

If you like real old school, you should check out this doc: The Freshest Kids (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0361638/). It's focused on dancing, but you get a ton of hip-hop history in the process. Available on Netflix!

[BlockParty]

Props to the Knicks going old school last night....couldn't find any video of it yet.


Knicks kick it old school with Grandmaster Flash

From Associated Press
January 27, 2011 11:14 PM EST

NEW YORK (AP) — There was an old-school vibe at Madison Square Garden on Thursday night.

With the New York Knicks showing signs of life not seen since the Patrick Ewing days, the team brought in pioneering DJ Grandmaster Flash to pump up the crowd against the rival Miami Heat.

"There's an energy here. It's getting back to the way it was," Grandmaster Flash said. "It's exciting. This team, as a collective, has a chance to be good."

In an age of iPod mashups, the 53-year-old Grandmaster Flash still was spinning vinyl — the record players hooked into a laptop, of course — from his booth off a corner of the court during the pregame, timeouts and at halftime.

The DJ from the Bronx, who is one of the inventors of hip-hop, played for a star-studded crowd that included Kanye West, Q-Tip and Fat Joe.

Before the game, Amare Stoudemire was voted an All-Star starter, the first Knicks player to earn the honor since Ewing in 1997. Behind Stoudemire, the Knicks are 23-21, second in the Atlantic Division.

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Here is just a taste of Grandmaster Flash for those that weren't around back then

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7-tXlivN6R4

[TheBeagle]

All I know about hip hop I learned from Wu-Tang...if it's not Shaolin style I don't listen to it.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjZRAvsZf1g


and some ODB love...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO9i4vmY4yk

[Marvel]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vWxMFQIip3U&feature=BF&list=PL98264A8ED9DBF51C&index=20

Razah of Sunz Of Man, one of the illest MCs today.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VB9cg8Zglho&feature=BF&list=PL98264A8ED9DBF51C&index=4



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6uCf31cyIm4&feature=BF&list=PL98264A8ED9DBF51C&index=7



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UNsPiredkqE&feature=BF&list=PL98264A8ED9DBF51C&index=12

Killah Priest


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kQzpSTRs72M&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IFYNG65HqGY

And of course a true Heavyweight Lyrical Animal


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IWJLXU1rxSo&feature=related

[Marvel]

Don't know what's up with the size of my vids.

These 2 Ruck aka Sean Price and Rock aka The Rockness Monsta



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nNmZJ8WgtDA&feature=BF&list=PL18BC87BB91C05C31&index=7


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JUwS_fkS7e8&feature=related



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wzak1WtAy9Y&feature=related

[SWedd523]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fjNLQeohXew




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vXmqauitBkM




http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NywdVBwzurU

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I heard this today and it brought a smile to my face.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiOcVWQY2bc

[SWedd523]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YFK6H_CcuX8

[SWedd523]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_qzacv8dtb4