The 2010-2011 Trade Discussion Thread (Part V)

[polarcat]

I saw that the previous trade thread was up to 41 pages, so I thought a new thread would be okay. With the 'Melo to NYK deal finalized, let the flood gates open for the next 2 days of moving and shaking. Hopefully our boys will be involved in a trade or two before the clock strikes 3pm.

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NYK Receive:
Carmelo Anthony
Chauncey Billups
Shelden Williams
Anthony Carter
Renaldo Balkman
Corey Brewer

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Denver Receives:
Danilo Gallinari
Wilson Chandler
Raymond Felton
Timofey Mozgov
2014 1st rounder
2012 2nd rounder
2013 2nd rounder
$3M

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Minnesota Receives:
Eddy Curry
Anthony Randolph

[rsxnova]

Now that the Melo deal is done small trade are going to result from it. There are talks of Felton to NJ which would put Harris OTB. I could see us offering Wallace or Jack for a PG. What do you guys think will happen.

[rsxnova]

Why was my post moved to this forum? It was actually about us trading.

[teej]

Why was my post moved to this forum? It was actually about us trading.

I saw Melo and didn't even open the thread. I'll move it back.

[ohara831]

I might start a rumor. Denver and Charlotte do a deal and as part of it, DJ will go to Denver and Ray comes back to Charlotte. In this screwed up world, something like that would just be poetic and could easily happen with the Bobcats.

[BRNC]

This posted this AM at Hoopsworld...

Its Time For Gerald To Go: The Charlotte Bobcats are also expected to trigger a deal in the next 48-hours and the question is will it be guard Stephen Jackson or forward Gerald Wallace. The Bobcats are currently sitting at 24-32 and just one game out of the Eastern Conference playoff picture.
The Bobcats had hoped that their coaching change which sent out Larry brown and brought in Paul Silas would jumpstart a lagging disinterested club, however with two days remaining until the trade deadline, the Bobcats who were preaching "no deals" almost two weeks ago are firmly in the mix and are offering up one of its core players.
Wallace has the better contract with two years at $9.5 million per season, and is slated to earn $9.5 this season.
Jackson on the other hand, has two seasons worth $9.25 million and $10.09 million after this season's $8.45 million is paid.
The Bobcats would like to move one of the two along with forward Boris Diaw who is slated to earn $9 million this season and has a player option worth $9 million for next season.
League sources familiar with Charlotte's stance, say they want any team taking on Wallace or Jackson to agree to take on Diaw, and the Bobcats are not looking for a lot in return for either player.
The Dallas Mavericks and Houston Rockets have both been talking with Charlotte and have similar offers… Dallas is offering the ending contract of Caron Butler and a couple of younger assets such as rookie Dominique Jones. Where Houston's trade offer is based on the ending insurance-covered contract of Yao Ming and younger players like Chase Budinger and Courtney Lee.
The Bobcats have been talking fairly aggressively over the last week and it seems fairly clear that they will trigger something in the next 48-hours.


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18859#ixzz1EhMjVdW2

[ohara831]

Great find! Wait and see!

[spectre]

If the lollipop dumps Crash for an expiring I don't know that I could ever forgive him.

[ziggy]

If the lollipop dumps Crash for an expiring I don't know that I could ever forgive him.

Spectre, usually I'm pretty optimistic around the trade deadline, but I have a bad feeling about whatever is going happen in the next couple of days.

[ohara831]

Ziggy and Spectre, I totally agree. I think this will turn out badly for the Bobcats. But let MJ make his own bed. He will have to sleep in it.

[BRNC]

I just found this also...from Jason Flemings chat at HoopsWorld yesterday...sounds to me (with the above quote) like all the Hoopsworld folk are pretty convinced we're pulling the trigger on something...


Chris in Charlotte:
Will the Bobcats make any trades before the deadline?
http://www.hoopsworld.com/images/hw_icon.gif
Jason Fleming:
They want to. It sure sounds like Stephen Jackson, Gerald Wallace, and Boris Diaw are all available.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Chat.asp?CHAT_TOPICS_ID=1447#ixzz1EhSmZRi1

[polarcat]

I don't know about Dallas. If they're talking Caron's expiring + Jones, I walk away. They've gotta sweeten our pot this time since we got bent over and taken in the Chandler - DUST chip deal. Houston LAC or even Denver I like more as a trade partner than the Mavs. I like the fact that we are moving Diaw + either Jack or Wallace. I think if one of Jack or Wallace is dealt, we can still fill their shoes with who we get back and sliding around some of our current members. If Wallace goes, we move Henderson into starting role and Jack to the 3. If Jack goes, we still move Henderson to the starting role. As for our PF position, I'm sure a PF is coming back as part of the deal (Craig Smith, Battier, Jordan Hill) so T2 will have some good company and depth to allow him to start.

[CrazyCarl139]

Getting Courtney Lee from Houston would be wonderful!

I'm a huge Magic fan and I was pissed they traded Lee for Carter. Getting Ryan Anderson made the deal worth it though. Lee can play. He's a scorer and a in your face defender. He can hit the corner 3s which is exactly what you want from a roll player. Also, it seems to me that Charlotte is best when they are pushing the ball. Lee runs the floor great.

[polarcat]

I'm hoping we can really work with Denver. Nene was supposed to be on the outs after 'Melo went, but now they're talking extension. There are rumors that Danilo Gallinari is going to be shipped back out before the deadline which I would love to have here. Dude is a 6'10 forward avg'ing 16/5 and is wicked young. Let's go shopping in Denver with Wallace going out to replace Anthony as their SF.

[BRNC]

polar...word is Denver is trying to extend Nene now and if they move him it will be after the season...and if Denver is in "rebuild" mode I doubt they'd take Jack or Crash...but more likely Crash but not want to give us anything back...I'd rather not deal with them...

[polarcat]

polar...word is Denver is trying to extend Nene now and if they move him it will be after the season...and if Denver is in "rebuild" mode I doubt they'd take Jack or Crash...but more likely Crash but not want to give us anything back...I'd rather not deal with them...

Yeah, saw that about the Nene extension. Too bad our parts don't meet what they want. I'd love to do something like Wallace+Diaw+Nazzy or UPS+draft pick for Nene+ either Gallo or Chandler. Talent-wise, it seems pretty close, but they definitely don't want anything to do with it if they are in rebuild mode.

[Chef]

If the lollipop dumps Crash for an expiring I don't know that I could ever forgive him.

agreed. now if it is jax, i won't mind so much.

[jazzer89]

If we are trading with Houston and are giving up Wallace this is the trade i want going down

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4c6zfnm

We give up wallace but get very good young talent and a huge expiring

[Chef]

If we are trading with Houston and are giving up Wallace this is the trade i want going down

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4c6zfnm

We give up wallace but get very good young talent and a huge expiring

i think i'd rather have patrick patterson over hill. but yeah that isn't too bad. only question is what does that do to hendo's spot in the grand scheme?

[jazzer89]

i think i'd rather have patrick patterson over hill. but yeah that isn't too bad. only question is what does that do to hendo's spot in the grand scheme?

Well simple, Hendo moves to the starting lineup and Jack moves to the 3. Hendo deserves it in my eyes, he worked so hard under brown and saw nothing. Silas comes around and gives Hendo a chance and IMO i think Hendo has shown he can play. Hendo starts and T-Will backs him up, not a bad situation. Plus T-Will and Hendo can see the court at the same time if Jack needs a break.

Hill/Patterson I dont really care. Neither will be a star but both can be fine back up PF. Id take Hill just because i think he is a better player NOW but Patterson might grow into something better as he develops.

[DJ_2_Hendo_4theWIN]

I would take this trade:

Yoa, Budinger, Hill, First (they have 2) for Wallace, Diaw, UPS

We get a huge expiring plus everything else Yoa brings. We would have a whole country behind us even if Yoa doesn't play a single game. Jersey sales, everything would increase because of that simple fact of him just being on our team. Then when you get to the players. I think you might be able to get Twill out of them too, i'm not sure they value him much. But you get two young solid bench players, and you give Jack the chance to start the 3 (which the numbers show is when he is most effective) and Hendo starts at the 2. We would have 5 young players to build around with DJ, Hendo, Budinger, Hill, Thomas and we woudl have cap space with which to do it with and 2 first round draft picks. PLUS I really do think that a team of DJ/Hendo/Jack/Hill (until Tyrus back)/Kwame and a bench of Liv/(carroll/Twill)/Budinger/Najera/Nazr is still talented enough to compete for the playoffs. I like it. Defiantly not a give away in my eyes.

[adam187]

If we are trading with Houston and are giving up Wallace this is the trade i want going down

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4c6zfnm

We give up wallace but get very good young talent and a huge expiring


That's the same trade I was thinking would be pretty decent. I think this would be a home run though:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4dr7g9o

Basically replaces Diaw leaving with Diop and Hammer. Ship out Diaw next year, when his contract will be worth twice as much.

A man can dream can't he?

[DJ_2_Hendo_4theWIN]

That's the same trade I was thinking would be pretty decent. I think this would be a home run though:

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4dr7g9o

Basically replaces Diaw leaving with Diop and Hammer. Ship out Diaw next year, when his contract will be worth twice as much.

A man can dream can't he?

Haha, and that's all a man can do. Dream.

[SWedd523]

If we trade Crash, we better get Roddy (Dallas) or Battier, TWill and Hill (Houston). Crash for Caron and Dominique Jones? FUCK NO.

[rsxnova]

I would also shop Wallace to the Clippers since they are shopping Minnys pick.

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[Proudiddy]

I don't understand the logic behind the preference to move Gerald now. Sure, he's had a rough start but he started coming around before the all-star break. I love Jack, but there's been several games I've hated his play... I just think Jack would be easier to replace becuase he's a volume shooter. Then again, they could be thinking if they move Gerald, they'll move Hendo to the 2 and Jack to the 3.

I'll be sad to see Gerald go.

[polarcat]

From the rumors and personal hunch, there are indeed several teams that want Wallace or Jack or both. My guess is that we are being lowballed (See Chandler, Tyson trade) and MJ knows we are in the driver seat. Yes we do need to make a deal for the long-term and playoff run, but the team as constructed is still playoff capable. We hold the chips and need to play with that attitude and don't accept any shit deals just to make deals. What good is having a ton of $$ and financial cap relief, if no player wants to come here and play? I hope Higgins and MJ go in as the lead dog, rather than a follower that takes whatever.

[Proudiddy]

James Johnson, who we were previously interested in, just got traded from the Bulls to the Raptors for a 2nd round pick. If we were moving Diaw, I would've loved to bring Johnson in as his replacement, especially for that price... Really cheap.

[ammofan]

I think we make a deal. Silas says we aren't impressed by any offers.....but when it comes down to the deadline and GW or Jack is needed by someone, they will offer up what we want.

[Chef]

get the trade we want or hold steady. jax and crash will be just as valuable if not more valuable this summer or next barring injury. plus, we make a strong run at the playoffs this year with what we have. i am all for trading anyone, just make sure the deals favor us for the present and future.

[Dcarnys]

Am I the only one who's rooting for no trades or is it just me??

[mrtarheel]

Here I think is a trade that would work for us while keeping our core and adding bench depth http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4dv6293

Dj, Livingston, Collins
Jax, Hendo, Carrol
Crash, Budinger, McGuire
TT, Hill, Najera
Kaman, Brown, Diop

[ohara831]

Well, nothing will happen with Jax now with a hammy tonight. But I am OK with keeping him.

[BRNC]

^^^ohara...all indications are Jack was the harder of the two (Crash) to find a home...so doubt it really makes a difference...

[DJ_2_Hendo_4theWIN]

Yeah, I don't think jack was going anywhere anyway. I still think there is a lot of good that could come from ANY trade with Houston. They have a ton of young guys that we could really use to help us now and in the future. I for one would like to see what Hendo could do starting, and I happen to like the combo of Hendo and Jack. It would be hard to give up Wallace, especially on a night like tonight, but I think we will see a deal.

[rsxnova]

Trade Nazzy and a second to GSW for Murphy and sign Naz back when he is bought out. Of course assuming the NJ/GSW deal goes down.

[alloy]

Except those numbers don't add up. Need more than Naz going out.

What contender will Murphy go to?

[ammofan]

Mike Miller seems to be available. They want a upgrade at C....Nazr?

[Proudiddy]

Golden State is buying out Murphy regardless. He'll be available as a FA but I doubt he'll want to come here regardless.

The more time that goes by, the less likely it seems to me that we're going to make a deal... Really does sound like we were engaged in talks but everybody wants us to give them a Tyson Chandler deal. Ain't gonna happen.

BTW, LOL @ Jack faking an injury in hopes of not being traded.

[ammofan]

I bet we make some sort of small move before the deadline. Maybe something like what we did last year for Theo. But myabe a Derrick brown for somebody else type of deal....

[BRNC]

I doubt Murphy gives us a sniff if he's bought out...too many of the "contenders" will want him and who can blame him for chasing a ring...

I've found nothing today concerning us and trades...makes me believe we've told teams what it will take to get Crash or Jack and they'll either "pony up" or we remain the same...

...about Nazzy...we only have 10.11 coming off the books if we make no trades...which leaves us in the mid-fifty mil range...two of those players (Nazr and Kwame) are centers...and we'll only have one center (Diop) under contract....with no idea what the cap will be...and the need to have more than one center...I'm pretty sure we can sign both guys (or at least one) back for a reasonable price...but the point...Nazzy has given every indication of wanting to stay and he's a reasonable back-up...plus any player we'd trade him for (more than likely) will have a longer contract...at this point I'd rather go with what we have...including our expiring contracts unless we get a true upgrade or young talent we know will get better...

[Chef]

here's one based on the truehoop rumor that memphis and orlando are considering/suggesting a zach randolph for j-rich and bass trade.

3 teamer:

cha out: ups, diaw, tyrus
cha in: zach randolph

chicago out: ronnie brewer, 2011 #1 and miami #1
chicago in: oj mayo

memphis out: randolph, mayo
memphis in: tyrus, diaw, ups, ronnie brewer and 2 #1's

[murphman]

(http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/25178/clippers-shopping-for-a-small-forward)The Clippers were shot down by the Nuggets in their pursuit of Danilo Gallinari, but they aren't done trying to find a sharp-shooting small forward to add to the roster (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/25178/clippers-shopping-for-a-small-forward). Sources say Clippers GM Neil Olshey was been canvasing the league looking for a starting 3 to round out L.A.'s roster. The Clippers have multiple first-round picks to offer, as well as young players like Eric Bledsoe and Al-Farouq Aminu and veterans like Chris Kaman. (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/25178/clippers-shopping-for-a-small-forward)ESPN.com (http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/25178/clippers-shopping-for-a-small-forward)
(http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/25178/clippers-shopping-for-a-small-forward)

We have hashed out potential trades to the Clipps before involving Kaman. I'm betting that Jax is on their list to pursue but not at the top. I wouldn't be surprised if they come calling Thrusday afternoon with an offer.

[BRNC]

HoopsWorld has there "Deals In The Works" article up with 24 hours left...we're not mentioned but I'll put the link up...the one point of interest to me was the Mavs and Nets...Dallas trading for Harris but the Nets wanted 1st,Butler contract, and D. Jones...Dallas thought it "too much"...but sounds like we asked for Crash...I wonder if they will concentrate on Crash instead...shrug here somewhere...anyway the link...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18873

[Chef]

HoopsWorld has there "Deals In The Works" article up with 24 hours left...we're not mentioned but I'll put the link up...the one point of interest to me was the Mavs and Nets...Dallas trading for Harris but the Nets wanted 1st,Butler contract, and D. Jones...Dallas thought it "too much"...but sounds like we asked for Crash...I wonder if they will concentrate on Crash instead...shrug here somewhere...anyway the link...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18873

they know that harris isn't going to give them what they need to win it all. harris is a future move. i would ask for butler, jones for jax and butler jones pick and cash for crash. they will fold. i like that for the first time it seems we aren't chasing trades.

[BRNC]

Eric Pinkus, HoopsWorld again, has his "Deadline for all 30 teams up"...I'll quote his take on us and post the article link:

Charlotte Bobcats - The Bobcats are a borderline playoff team in the East but it's a war of attrition. Just about everyone on the roster is said to be available in one form or another.
Gerald Wallace, Boris Diaw, Stephen Jackson, Nazr Mohammed are all somewhat expendable at this point - although Wallace and Jackson are crucial pieces in whatever it is the Bobcats are trying to do this season.
Wallace isn't cheap and his numbers have been in decline this season. Jackson has a bad temper, is well over 30 and owed two more seasons at about $9.7 million a year.
None of these numbers bode well for making a move unless Charlotte is taking back something unappealing . . . unless a playoff team really thinks Jackson or Wallace can be their final piece.


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?STORY_ID=18871#ixzz1EnKzPRzV

[ohara831]

Chad Ford says we are talking with Cleveland about Crash. Banished to Cleveland for all his hard work for Charlotte? OUCH! But he would be a good piece for them in the rebuilding stage. We are asking for an expiring and a protected pick. They have that huge TE so it would be a total salary dump. No way they give up the top pick in 2011 draft.

[DY_nasty]

Deron just got traded to New Jersey

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/40440619373432832

[ammofan]

Deron just got traded to New Jersey

http://twitter.com/#!/WojYahooNBA/status/40440619373432832

My god......what the heck did that come from???????????????????????????

[ammofan]

Chad Ford says we are talking with Cleveland about Crash. Banished to Cleveland for all his hard work for Charlotte? OUCH! But he would be a good piece for them in the rebuilding stage. We are asking for an expiring and a protected pick. They have that huge TE so it would be a total salary dump. No way they give up the top pick in 2011 draft.

Where did you see that?

[Adam42R]

Where did you see that?

probably from here - http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/category/_/name/truehoop-trade-reports

[BRNC]

I just found this from Ingram...speculation but it does make you wonder...

Bill Ingram - 02/22/2011 9:10PM EST-
The Nuggets landed a TPE worth in excess of $17 million in the trade with New York. Considering the Bobcats are looking at a salary dump, Denver should turn that TPE into Gerald Wallace and Boris Diaw. They'd be better than they were before the trade for sure!


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EnlQyWFx

[ammofan]

I just found this from Ingram...speculation but it does make you wonder...

Bill Ingram - 02/22/2011 9:10PM EST-
The Nuggets landed a TPE worth in excess of $17 million in the trade with New York. Considering the Bobcats are looking at a salary dump, Denver should turn that TPE into Gerald Wallace and Boris Diaw. They'd be better than they were before the trade for sure!


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EnlQyWFx


Boris and Gerald for a 1st, Nene, and JR and TPE......get it done lol

[Chef]

Boris and Gerald for a 1st, Nene, and JR and TPE......get it done lol

they've already said they are keeping both nene and jr.

[ammofan]

they've already said they are keeping both nene and jr.

I was joking.....

[BRNC]

Many teams have said many things...after DWill nothing would surprise me...LOL

I liked this blurb from Ingram...

Bill Ingram - 02/23/2011 11:54AM EST-
It's funny; a couple of weeks ago execs were saying they didn't expect many trades because of the uncertain future of the CBA. Now it looks like this could be one of the most active trade deadlines ever. That Deron Williams trade is something else . . .


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EnqvbZ8Y

[ammofan]

Nate Robinson could be headed to Golden State......other pieces of the deal are unclear... according to Sam Amick

[spankymoore7]

If Denver wants to reload instead of rebuild

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4vsm5uc

Why for Denver

Use trade exemption to get TT who they wanted before the season. Scorer in Jack is reunited with ray. start felton, smith, jackson, kmart, nene with lawson, chandler, tt off bench

Why for LA

Move Kaman who is a backup for them now for Gallo, a young 3 who was a top ten pick and gives them a nice young core of gordon, gallo, griffin, jordan. gives them a lock of cap space to resign jordan

Why for Charlotte

Move Jack and let Hendo start. I like TT but not at that salary. Kaman can help us and I think we still make the playoffs. Saves MJ a ton of money going forward while keeping young guys like DJ and Hendo, and the face of the franchise Wallace. Denver might rather have Wallace, which would hurt since he is the franchise: I would want a pick back then

Im not saying I would RATHER have this team, but if MJ wants to save money(wants to dump wallace for nothing from what I hear), this is an option. We need to develop our young guys and need flexability going into the new CBA. Diaw and Kaman would be nice expirings in 2012

Thoughts?

[ammofan]

Wallace to CLE? I could see this deal happening:
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=4v65m8o

CHA Gets- Jamison, Parker, Moon, TPE
CLE Gets- Wallace, Diaw, Carroll

I prefer a deal with HOU though...

[Fred Williamson]

I just found this from Ingram...speculation but it does make you wonder...

Bill Ingram - 02/22/2011 9:10PM EST-
The Nuggets landed a TPE worth in excess of $17 million in the trade with New York. Considering the Bobcats are looking at a salary dump, Denver should turn that TPE into Gerald Wallace and Boris Diaw. They'd be better than they were before the trade for sure!


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EnlQyWFx


Crash and Boris for a TPE. yeah, this will definitely increase our chances to make the playoffs :facepalm:

man, tomorrow afternoon will be pure hell on earth. remember last year? I almost had a heart attack when all those horrible trade rumour popped out

[BRNC]

I just posted this to the Gerald thread...Ingram speculating but I think Crash is gone somewhere...

As we reported yesterday, the Denver Nuggets' trade with the New York Knicks is much bigger than most seemed to realize at first. In addition to the draft picks and young talent they fleeced from the Knicks, the Nuggets wound up with a $17.12 trade exception (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18864).Think about that for a second. The Nuggets can now acquire a player or players who make up to $17.12 million and they don't have to send anything back. Now you're talking about acquiring a significant piece from a team that simply wants to cut salary . . .a team like the Charlotte Bobcats.
As unfortunate as it is, it seems the Bobcats are going to throw in the towel this season and deal either Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace before tomorrow's deadline. Wallace is the preferable move, as Gerald Henderson has shown tremendous promise this season and could step into that starting spot. Henderson is no Wallace, but with more experience he could be a factor for them down the road. Charlotte is looking to cut salary, and would like to use one of their stars as a way to unload Boris Diaw's contract.
It's not a stretch to put these two stories together.
Let's say the Nuggets swung a deal that landed Wallace in town, with or without Diaw. Now your lineup features Raymond Felton and Wallace, the core of last year's first-ever playoff team in Charlotte, but with a much better supporting cast of Kenyon Martin, Nene, J.R. Smith, Arron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler and, perhaps, Danilo Gallinari (who may be traded again). At the very least, that's a better Nuggets team than the one that last took the court with Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups in the lineup. It might even be a team that could challenge the Los Angeles Lakers and San Antonio Spurs for Western Conference supremacy.
The Cleveland Cavaliers also have a significant trade exception that they are actively seeking to use, and they will definitely take a long, hard look at Gerald Wallace, in particular. The Nuggets are going to have competition, and it's unclear just how aggressive they are going to be over the next 24 hours as the deadline approaches. They've already made a big splash with the Carmelo trade, but they're not a sure-fire playoff team as things stand. Adding Gerald Wallace to the mix would absolutely put them back in the playoff discussion, and it might even put them over the top.The Houston Rockets are also very interested in Wallace, and the Dallas Mavericks have had some discussion about adding Stephen Jackson.
Stay tuned . . .

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18875#ixzz1EoOv6CPR

[TyHill]

Per Adrian Wojnarowski..

"Portland is pushing hard and getting closer to completing a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Wallace, a league source tells Y! Sports."

"Nevetheless, source says the Blazers still believe that Wallace could end up in the Eastern Conference. Portland's pushing, though."

"Cleveland's been talking to Bobcats for several weeks on a Wallace deal, too. As one GM has said, "Blazers have been anxious...determined.""



http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba



Bidding war? :)

[ammofan]

Per Adrian Wojnarowski..

"Portland is pushing hard and getting closer to completing a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Wallace, a league source tells Y! Sports."

"Nevetheless, source says the Blazers still believe that Wallace could end up in the Eastern Conference. Portland's pushing, though."

"Cleveland's been talking to Bobcats for several weeks on a Wallace deal, too. As one GM has said, "Blazers have been anxious...determined.""




http://twitter.com/wojyahoonba



Bidding war? :)


POR should be able to win a bidding war......

Isnt this what Paul wanted? lol

[rsxnova]

POR should be able to win a bidding war......

Isnt this what Paul wanted? lol

Please be Batum.

[Proudiddy]

Last few minutes, some random Portland sports blogger posted a source told him the Portland deal for Gerald is done.

THEN, Bill Ingram just tweeted that Atlanta is now interested in Gerald and may be offering Josh Smith...

I would do that Atlanta deal in a hot minute.

[The Prodigy]

Last few minutes, some random Portland sports blogger posted a source told him the Portland deal for Gerald is done.

THEN, Bill Ingram just tweeted that Atlanta is now interested in Gerald and may be offering Josh Smith...

I would do that Atlanta deal in a hot minute.
I would have to change my shorts if we got Josh Smith.

[Chef]

if the report says "portland is pushing hard" and "blazers believe he could stay in the east" this means a bidding war of sorts. no way dj is included unless batum and/or matthews and a pick come back. relax guys, mj, who so far seems all about keeping people interested in the team and fielding a competitive product, is actually taking his time and shopping for deals. this is a good thing.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

vgoodwill (http://twitter.com/#%21/vgoodwill) Vincent Goodwill



Source: Portland is trying hard to obtain Gerald Wallace from the Bobcats...and it looks like they'll get him...taking on his 22 mil/2 yrs

2 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/#%21/vgoodwill/status/40507380907253760) Favorite (http://twitter.com/#) Retweet (http://twitter.com/#) Reply (http://twitter.com/#)

[TheGayKid]

What would most likely be a good hypothetical offer from portland for Crash?

[kickazzz2000]

my ctrl and R keys are gonna be broken by tomorrow afternoon

[Proudiddy]

From Mike... Whew...

mikecranston1

Told #Bobcats are "active" in trade discussions on numerous fronts. Nothing is done. GM Rod Higgins busy talking with number of clubs. half a minute ago via TweetDeck

[ammofan]

From Mike... Whew...

mikecranston1

Told #Bobcats are "active" in trade discussions on numerous fronts. Nothing is done. GM Rod Higgins busy talking with number of clubs. half a minute ago via TweetDeck

I kinda figured that. There weren't any big news outlets reporting the deal or anything.

[murphman]

SpearsNBAYahoo:
Wizards guard Kirk Hinrich close to being dealt to the Hawks in multi-player trade, source tells Y! Sports. [via Twitter]


Hmmmm. Any chance it could be tied into our trade with Portland?

[ammofan]

Hmmmm. Any chance it could be tied into our trade with Portland?

Doubt it because it just says it is a multi player trade...not multi team

[BRNC]

It looks like Hinrich to Hawks for J. Crawford...

These are the other players supposedly in this deal...


http://a2.twimg.com/profile_images/1163645383/MinimalistChalkSquare_normal.jpgEvan Dunlap (http://twitter.com/BQRMagic): What the Hawks/Wizards trade, in the terms @Alex Kennedy (http://twitter.com/AlexKennedyNBA) reported, looks like in trade machine. http://3.ly/y5b2 about 6 minutes ago (http://twitter.com/BQRMagic/statuses/40562995272613888)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EpYdNS1C

HoopsWorld posting players for both teams notified...looks like a done deal...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18881

[BRNC]

Teague is starting for the Hawks tonight...so it is pretty much done...I liked Hinrich (for us) playing behind Wall better than starting for the Hawks...

[BRNC]

Hawks-Wizards done deal...

Alex Kennedy: The trade has been completed. Hinrich and Armstrong for Bibby, Evans, Crawford and a first-round pick. (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html) Players have been informed of deal. Twitter (http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html)

HoopsWorld reporting it's a done deal also...

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18881

[BRNC]

Another trade just went down...

Ken Berger (http://twitter.com/KBerg_CBS): #Nets (http://twitter.com/search?q=%23Nets) have announced Troy Murphy to G-State for Gadzuric/Brandan Wright. Dubs also get 2012 2nd-round pick. Murphy will be bought out. now (http://twitter.com/KBerg_CBS/statuses/40595016401297408)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1Eq3FvlXz

[BRNC]

Ray is going to meet with Ujiri to get his role clarified...this could get interesting...or not...

http://sports.espn.go.com/nba/news/story?id=6152967

[BRNC]

This may or may not be interesting...

Jim Burton (http://twitter.com/jmb247): The Jazz have canceled a practice scheduled for tomorrow morning at SMU. Read into that whatever y'all want. 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/jmb247/statuses/40637545633021952)

[DY_nasty]

Marc Spears has just reported that Baron Davis has been traded to Cleveland for Mo Williams.

[Chef]

Marc Spears has just reported that Baron Davis has been traded to Cleveland for Mo Williams.

if baron didn't want to come here...

serves him right. stay in shape and play the right way and it wouldn't have happened.

[Plowright]

whats going on!?

[DY_nasty]

whats going on!?
Bobcats gonna Bob

[Plowright]

Bob?? I dont think any moves are going to happen

[BRNC]

I'm sure everyone knows B. Davis and unprotected first to the Cavs for M. Williams and J.Moon....

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18884

[murphman]

I think there will be some activity today although the Cats might not be involved (but don't count it out). The top four teams in each conference stayed quiet yesterday even though all of them (except SA) have been interested in making trades to improve/tweak their roster for a playoff run. OKC has hinted that Jeff Green is on the market but they want another big to replace him of equal value (good luck with that). Chicago, Boston, Dallas and Orlando might make a move. Miami and LA do not appear to have much to offer but they could be a third team in a big trade.

[BRNC]

I think the Rockets will deal with Memphis...not sure much more will happen than that...

I have doubts (unless we get an actual "offer") Crash or Jack goes...I kinda expected "Doris" would be gone but that even looks doubtful...

[ammofan]

Cranston:
#Bobcats' Special Olympics clinic on same day as trade deadline again. Last year Flip Murray had been traded and was still participating.

Should be interesting to see if anything develop's in the next 4 hours

[Chef]

Cranston:
#Bobcats' Special Olympics clinic on same day as trade deadline again. Last year Flip Murray had been traded and was still participating.

Should be interesting to see if anything develop's in the next 4 hours

hey, i didn't know flip was "special". must be a really mild handicap, you can barely tell.

[BRNC]

If we're not going to use D. Brown, or he's not in our future plans, I'd ship him to Boston for the first and Daniels expiring...problem is it would not work under the cap...oh well...

"The Boston Celtics are said to be dangling Nate Robinson and or the ending contract of Marquis Daniels in efforts to acquire another wing player. The Celtics have offered up a first round pick, but based on how the Celtics have been playing not sure getting the 28th, 29th or 30th pick in this draft is really an asset."

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EtXnvSu2

[ammofan]

Paul Silas just said "We are not going to do anything"
according to Cranston...

[polarcat]

http://2.bp.blogspot.com/_tNHKqUjGEOA/SfhjCogdiLI/AAAAAAAAEAQ/pJ8z9xEY37o/s400/Elmer_Fudd.png

Veeeerrrry Veeerrrry Qwwwwiet with 3 hours to go.

[BRNC]

Mavs making strong push for Prince but Dumars keeps saying no...I wonder (since it sounds like Cuban wants something done) if they re-visit us for Jack...a little over 2 hours to go...

[tittayzs]

The bobcats need to blow up or they will stay in mediocrity forever...They need to get rid of everyone and try and build with Tyrus, Dj, and baby G-force (gerald henderson)...keeping derrick brown would be nice too...they need picks and expiring contracts and start all over. MJ needs to pull the trigger on some trades and stop paying these mediocre players like they are superstars

[BRNC]

This would be funny if it was not true...

1:18
http://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gif[Comment From Matt Matt: ]
Any interest in Boris Diaw? Thursday February 24, 2011 1:18 Matt
1:18
http://cdnmo.coveritlive.com/media/avitars/phpcpOKK6eyeonbasketballtwitter.jpghttp://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gifBlazersedgeBen:
french bakeries around the world are always looking for his services

[WrxErik]

1.5 hours to go. Please MJ keep the team as is and don't bring up anymore BS like Pryz for Crash. Soon the madness will end and we can all start to focus on actual basketball for once.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

40 minutes to go. Please MJ if you can get younger and add some high draft picks do so. This team can not be built upon and do anything more than be mired in mediocrity. If you can break it down and build it up YOU MUST DO SO!!!

[Absinthe]

Isn't Diaw going to be an expiring soon? I'd hold onto him just for that benefit.

[polarcat]

I'm guessing the looming CBA is making GM's think an extra step or two with these potential deals. 35 mins to go and nothing since Baron in the wee hours this morning.

[BRNC]

Rockets really want a deal...

2:41
http://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gif[Comment From Marcus Marcus: ]
do you think the Rockets will make a deal? Thursday February 24, 2011 2:41 Marcus
2:41
http://cdnmo.coveritlive.com/media/avitars/phpOv0D1Heyeonbasketballtwitter.jpghttp://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gifRoyce Young/CBSSports.com:
They are definitely trying to. I say yes.

[ammofan]

Rockets really want a deal...

2:41
http://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gif[Comment From Marcus Marcus: ]
do you think the Rockets will make a deal? Thursday February 24, 2011 2:41 Marcus
2:41
http://cdnmo.coveritlive.com/media/avitars/phpOv0D1Heyeonbasketballtwitter.jpghttp://cdnsl.coveritlive.com/templates/coveritlive/images/spacer.gifRoyce Young/CBSSports.com:
They are definitely trying to. I say yes.

I think its about to get realllllyyyy interesting

[BRNC]

wonder where the heck he's going...


Evan Dunlap (http://twitter.com/BQRMagic): Per @Gary Washburn (http://twitter.com/gwashburn14), Celtics trading Nate Robinson. Don't know to where or for whom just yet. 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/BQRMagic/statuses/40861342613258240)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuM36j7x

[BRNC]

It's starting...

Adrian Wojnarowski (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA): Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y! now (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/40862021779988480)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuMRMGV9

[ammofan]

It's starting...

Adrian Wojnarowski (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA): Boston has agreed to send Kendrick Perkins to OKC for package that includes Jeff Green, sources tell Y! now (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA/statuses/40862021779988480)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuMRMGV9


HOLY CRAP! OKC is a contender now....

[BRNC]

no one saw this...


Sam Amick (http://twitter.com/sam_amick): Boston has agreed to send Nate Robinson and K. Perkins to Oklahoma City in exchange for Jeff Green and other pieces, source says. now (http://twitter.com/sam_amick/statuses/40862521501945856)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuMosyb7

[Proudiddy]

Sorry guys, I think we just wasted our time.

[BRNC]

this looks like the OKC Celtics info...


Michael Dugat (http://twitter.com/mdug): Sounds like players involved are Perkins, Nate Robinson for Krstic and Green. Per @Adrian Wojnarowski (http://twitter.com/WojYahooNBA) 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/mdug/statuses/40863000193810432)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuNRxHxw

[BRNC]

sounds like we did nothing with Rockets since Battier would have been coming back in a Crash trade...


Chris Vernon (http://twitter.com/ChrisVernonShow): BREAKING: Grizzlies trading H. Thabeet and 1st Rdr for Shane Battier 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/ChrisVernonShow/statuses/40862891490017280)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuNkcgXY

[Proudiddy]

Get this...

ChrisVernonShow

Also = OJ Mayo might be traded to Indiana Pacers for Josh McRoberts and a 1st Rd pick - (oh geez) 3 minutes ago via web Retweeted by johnhollinger and 2 others

FUCKING JOSH MCROBERTS for OJ MAYO LMAO.

[ammofan]

Oj Mayo could go to Indy for McRoberts and a 1st......If taht happens forgot MJ and Rod and Paul

[ohara831]

Word that OJ Mayo to Indiana for Josh McRoberts and a 1st. Great, our competition just got better.

[kickazzz2000]

fucking gd damnit

[ammofan]

Word that OJ Mayo to Indiana for Josh McRoberts and a 1st. Great, our competition just got better.

Exactly why we should've been making deals.

[Fred Williamson]

oh man....

[BRNC]

They're still popping up...


Paul Coro (http://twitter.com/paulcoro): The Suns "likely" are trading Goran Dragic and a first-round draft choice to Houston for Aaron Brooks, a source said. 1 minute ago (http://twitter.com/paulcoro/statuses/40864766318751744)

Read more: http://hoopshype.com/twitter_media.html#ixzz1EuPLX1KS

[Proudiddy]

Our FO really is retarded... Sit back and watch everyone else get better.

I just thought of how sorry Higgins is when we were treating Gerald Wallace the way the Cavs were treating Anthony Parker... Sad. Gerald is infinitely better than Parker and we couldn't get anything from anyone worth anything.

[Dcarnys]

Good news is we didn't lose anything. Didn't gain anything ether, and everyone else seemed to get alot better. Only problem was we got offered crap.

[Proudiddy]

Good news is we didn't lose anything. Didn't gain anything ether, and everyone else seemed to get alot better. Only problem was we got offered crap.

Just as I said with the parallels to the Cavs/Anthony Parker deal... reading the tweets about that situation sounded eerily similar to what was being reported about us and Gerald. Our FO sucks. We mismanage so much it's ridiculous.

[WrxErik]

You guys are missing a trend. We don't have draft picks to trade. It is not our front office being dumb.

[kickazzz2000]

You guys are missing a trend. We don't have draft picks to trade. It is not our front office being dumb.

OK, fine, It WAS our front office being dumb.

[ohara831]

Nazr to OKC for DJ White and Mo Peterson

[BRNC]

so I'll go back to a post I made earlier...who wanted to "jump" on a Crash for Pryz and Cash...that would have made us better how?

[CatNation]

we gonna cut Mo Pete? Isn't our roster overloadednow? More trades?

[murphman]

Crash to Portland is finalized according to Wojo!!!

seriously (not joking)

[murphman]

No details on the Crash trade yet.

[ohara831]

Crash for Przybilla and a 2nd. Not even a 1st. MJ should have neve bought this team!!!!!! He sucks!!!!!!

[BRNC]

Crash for Przybilla and a 2nd. Not even a 1st. MJ should have neve bought this team!!!!!! He sucks!!!!!!

ohara...latest reports say it's Pryz and 2 1st...

[TheLegend]

This blows big time. Higgins and MJ should just pack their bags and leave Charlotte.

[tittayzs]

If it is two first rounders then we would have three first rounders this year...bobcats can build on that and hopefully draft one good player, and they will start losing now and get a better lottery pick

[BRNC]

Still waiting to see if they're 2011 or if they're split...1 2011 and 1 2013 etc...details are still sketchy...

[ammofan]

Again.....how can we have 17 players? Why have no reporters answered this?

[BRNC]

Thunder trade is official...up on NBA page...

hunder trade for Nazr MohammedThunder get:
• C Nazr Mohammed
Bobcats get:
• F D.J. White
• G Morris Peterson

[JamieMcNeill]

Again.....how can we have 17 players? Why have no reporters answered this?

this

10char

[rsxnova]

this

10char

I assume a buyout is coming but then why trade Naz.

[Chef]

we should let both of them (pryz and mo) retire. why pay them? buyout one or two of our cheaper players instead.

[millst2]

chef I agree. If they want to come to NC whining like bitches demanding a buyout, we should buyout the 2 cheapest players and force pryz and mo to retire.

[Plowright]

I dont think we will keep these picks, probabley get traded in the summer in a seperate move

Also, WHO THE F*CK IS DJ WHITE ?

[TheLegend]

I'm confused. Those picks the Blazers gave us was the 2011 pick a top 7 or 20?

[Plowright]

http://www.bobcatsbreak.com/?p=4000

article on me about the GW trade