Gerald Wallace

[CrazyCarl139]

From Chad Ford:



The Charlotte Bobcats seem intent on moving Gerald Wallace to a new team by the Thursday deadline and have aggressively courted the Mavericks, Rockets, Clippers, Pacers and Cavs. The asking price has been an expiring contract and a protected first-round pick.

So far they've been unable to get a team to bite, though there have been rumblings Wednesday morning that the Cavs may use their $14.5 million trade exception generated in the LeBron James sign-and-trade this summer to land Wallace by the deadline.

[CatNation]

I would love to see MJ try to explain to the season ticket holders how we moved THE franchise, the Force, the captain for nothing. he would probably be too ashamed to hold a press conference. it would be a Higgins and Whitfield phone conference. What a disgrace

[ammofan]

I would love to see MJ try to explain to the season ticket holders how we moved THE franchise, the Force, the captain for nothing. he would probably be too ashamed to hold a press conference. it would be a Higgins and Whitfield phone conference. What a disgrace

Yea it wouldn't be pretty.

[BRNC]

I get the "bad feeling" that one of the four teams; Mavs, Nuggets, Rockets, or Cavs will blink and give what we're asking...I hope for Crash it is not the Cavs...

[ebrown]

I don't understand the reasoning behind this. What are we not seeing here?

[BRNC]

I don't understand the reasoning behind this. What are we not seeing here?

...not sure what you mean e...but from reports we're trying to dump salary...specifically packaging Crash with Doris....

[ebrown]

But to do what? Who are we going to get to come here? We have a coach that is going to rebuild for one year and then is gone? Doesn't make much sense.

[BRNC]

I'm not sure "salary dumps" ever make sense...except to dump salary....

[CatNation]

Henderson has shown a lot lately, but I'm afraid of regression if he gets thrown into a bigger role too quickly. Then again, he has been playing the 4th quarters when the games really matter and has stepped up. maybe he is ready

[polarcat]

I'm not a Chad Ford guy anyway.... I feel like his information and/or analysis is garbage. That Cleveland rumor is almost a month old and he's recycling it so he can posture himself while other "insiders" are tweeting and posting their info. I don't doubt Wallace is being shopped and I feel like he and Diaw have probably played their last games in Bobcats uniforms, but we are not perceived well by ESPN. Sometimes it is as simple as it is.... we are getting burned in that deal and a team on the cusp of the playoffs doesn't make a deal like this at the deadline.

[ebrown]

It makes more sense to go for a playoff push than a rebuild right now.

[BRNC]

Polar...100% agree on the "Ford" evaluation...I'm more concerned about the other teams blinking...the Mavs and Rockets almost "have" to make a move...and Crash is probably the best player available...

[ammofan]

Henderson has shown a lot lately, but I'm afraid of regression if he gets thrown into a bigger role too quickly. Then again, he has been playing the 4th quarters when the games really matter and has stepped up. maybe he is ready

His stats were just as good as Jack last night...He's ready.

I think that's why Gerald is being shopped. Hendo is more similar to Crash than Jack and he is putting up similar numbers to Crash...off the bench. We still need to get good players in return for GW tho.

[CatNation]

we are really in a bad spot. its too late to tank now, but we will have to rebuild eventually. but if we push for the playoffs this year and dont get a lottery pick, we wont have another one of our own until 2013. so what do we do next year? push for 8th again?

[polarcat]

BRNC, I'm with you on Houston. I hope that's our partner and we can pull an expiring (Yao), Hill and TWill for Wallace. I also think Denver would be good with us if they quit trying to squeeze everything out of their respective trade partner. The deal with the Knicks could've been done without Chandler or without Mozgov. I wouldn't mind shooting pool with Denver since Wallace would be a nice consolation prize in losing 'Melo.

[BRNC]

Polar...if I have to pick those are my two also...

[CatNation]

if we got terrence everything would be okay

[murphman]

The 2012 pick to Chicago is lottery protected.

[CrazyCarl139]

1st - the reason that the Bobcats are looking to dump salary is not to get under the cap to sign a free agent. They want to dump salary so that the franchise isn't finishing the season in the red. The less money they pay to players, the less money they lose.

In my opinion, this is a ridicilous concept. The way to not lose money is to sell tickets. The way to sell tickets is to put a winning team on the court. So, a salary dump might help right now, but they will just continue to lose money over the years without a good team.

2nd - Darly Morey said he has two deals on the table. One is for a draft pick (I'm assuming that's from Chicago, for Courtney Lee). The second deal is for an impact player....could this be Crash???

[ammofan]

1st - the reason that the Bobcats are looking to dump salary is not to get under the cap to sign a free agent. They want to dump salary so that the franchise isn't finishing the season in the red. The less money they pay to players, the less money they lose.

In my opinion, this is a ridicilous concept. The way to not lose money is to sell tickets. The way to sell tickets is to put a winning team on the court. So, a salary dump might help right now, but they will just continue to lose money over the years without a good team.

2nd - Darly Morey said he has two deals on the table. One is for a draft pick (I'm assuming that's from Chicago, for Courtney Lee). The second deal is for an impact player....could this be Crash???

I bet it is crash......

But where did you hear that from?

[CrazyCarl139]

ESPN's NBA Rumors.



UPDATE: The Rockets, with one day to go until the trade deadline, have not made a deal yet and general manager Daryl Morey knows he has to make a move to improve the team.
"We've got to get something done, or it's not good," Morey told Houston Chronicle (http://www.chron.com/disp/story.mpl/sports/justice/7441527.html). "If I'm a fan, I'm waiting for us to get someone."
Morey reportedly has two deals on the table. One for a draft pick and the other for an impact player.
"I'm not optimistic," Morey said, "but I don't think I ever am at this point in the process. Everyone is playing poker, trying to get the best deal they can."

[ammofan]

Steve Kyler update:

The Cleveland Cavaliers have a standing offer for Charlotte's Gerald Wallace, would include absorbing him with Traded Player Exception, and then swapping additional lower dollars players for a Charlotte cast offs.

Bobcats not sold today that Cleveland's deal is best out there.

Houston is said to be interested in Wallace too and the Mavericks, who swung and missed on Devin Harris are open to the idea of landing Stephen Jackson.

Mavericks have told inquiring teams Dominique Jones is a not available, but when push comes to shove a few executives believe he can be had for the right veteran shooting guard. Mavericks have been shopping the ending contract of Caron Butler as the meat of their offers with limited interest.

The Bobcats want to dump Boris Diaw more than Jackson or Wallace, and seem to want a real player back for either Jackson or Wallace in a deal.

The short cut might be to take Wallace or Jackson with Diaw, which Charlotte seems open to. Landing one on their own looks to be a tough sell.

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EoE8U9Ew

[Adam42R]

WojYahooNBA: Portland is pushing hard and getting closer to completing a deal with Charlotte for Gerald Wallace, a league source tells Y! Sports. [via Twitter]
WojYahooNBA: Nevetheless, source says the Blazers still believe that Wallace could end up in the Eastern Conference. Portland's pushing, though. [via Twitter]



Ugh, can't we keep Crash to ourselves?

[CatNation]

I like that we have at least a few teams competing for him. Maybe we wont get totally ripped off

[BRNC]

Wallace and the Nuggets...Ingram put this up a little while ago...I missed it if it is already linked...

As we reported yesterday, the Denver Nuggets' trade with the New York Knicks is much bigger than most seemed to realize at first. In addition to the draft picks and young talent they fleeced from the Knicks, the Nuggets wound up with a $17.12 trade exception (http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18864).Think about that for a second. The Nuggets can now acquire a player or players who make up to $17.12 million and they don't have to send anything back. Now you're talking about acquiring a significant piece from a team that simply wants to cut salary . . .a team like the Charlotte Bobcats.
As unfortunate as it is, it seems the Bobcats are going to throw in the towel this season and deal either Stephen Jackson or Gerald Wallace before tomorrow's deadline. Wallace is the preferable move, as Gerald Henderson has shown tremendous promise this season and could step into that starting spot. Henderson is no Wallace, but with more experience he could be a factor for them down the road. Charlotte is looking to cut salary, and would like to use one of their stars as a way to unload Boris Diaw's contract.
It's not a stretch to put these two stories together.
Let's say the Nuggets swung a deal that landed Wallace in town, with or without Diaw. Now your lineup features Raymond Felton and Wallace, the core of last year's first-ever playoff team in Charlotte, but with a much better supporting cast of Kenyon Martin, Nene, J.R. Smith, Arron Afflalo, Wilson Chandler and, perhaps, Danilo Gallinari (who may be traded again). At the very least, that's a better Nuggets team than the one that last took the court with Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups in the lineup. It might even be a team that could challenge the Los Angeles Lakers and San Antonio Spurs for Western Conference supremacy.
The Cleveland Cavaliers also have a significant trade exception that they are actively seeking to use, and they will definitely take a long, hard look at Gerald Wallace, in particular. The Nuggets are going to have competition, and it's unclear just how aggressive they are going to be over the next 24 hours as the deadline approaches. They've already made a big splash with the Carmelo trade, but they're not a sure-fire playoff team as things stand. Adding Gerald Wallace to the mix would absolutely put them back in the playoff discussion, and it might even put them over the top.The Houston Rockets are also very interested in Wallace, and the Dallas Mavericks have had some discussion about adding Stephen Jackson.
Stay tuned . . .

Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18875#ixzz1EoOv6CPR

[Dcarnys]

NO MOVES!!!

If MJ moves CrashJ and/or Jax for NOTHING,I've lost all hope in Charlotte Basketball's front office.

[ammofan]

I think we can get Pryzbilla nd Rudy Fernandez plus maybe 1 other guy for Wallace....Im all for a Wallace trade if we can get good value. POR can offer us a good deal....

[Adam42R]

I like that we have at least a few teams competing for him. Maybe we wont get totally ripped off

WojYahooNBA: Cleveland's been talking to Bobcats for several weeks on a Wallace deal, too. As one GM has said, "Blazers have been anxious...determined." [via Twitter]

[SMU]

Wallace is all over Twitter. I'm not opposed to a move but not for the sake of dumping salary. What happened to competing this year? Does MJ ever say what he means?

[CrazyCarl139]

At the very least, that's a better Nuggets team than the one that last took the court with Carmelo Anthony and Chauncey Billups in the lineup. It might even be a team that could challenge the Los Angeles Lakers and San Antonio Spurs for Western Conference supremacy.

That is the most ridiculous comment I have ever read.

[G-Force for MVP]

if wallace leaves for nothing you better believe im jumping on the knicks bandwagon

[G-Force for MVP]

Throw in the towel for what the cats are 1 game out

[polarcat]

The only players that I would really want back from PDX, I don't think they want to ship back. Aldridge, Batum, Matthews and to a lesser degree, Rudy Fernandez. Camby has already said he doesn't want to come here. It's probably Pryz's expiring + some other stuff like you said Ammo. Not a huge fan if Batum or Matthews isn't included. No way Aldridge is even on the table.

[CatNation]

i doubt they give us Batum...but if they have Wallace whats the point of keeping him?

[Proudiddy]

Combine this report with the one yesterday that Portland is looking to trade both Camby and Miller before the deadline... SMH... We're gonna get garbage back. I don't want Miller and Camby said he'll retire if traded, and IIRC said he did NOT want to play here last year.

I'm hoping for Rudy...

Did this on the trade machine:

OUT:
Crash

IN:
Rudy
Pryz
Babbitt
(maybe a 1st?)

[Dcarnys]

All I can say about a potential move with Crash is that there better be a 1st rounder involved. Still don't want any moves but if we get a first rounder (especialy from Cleveland) Ill be less disappointed then I would otherwise.

[Proudiddy]

Oh, and I'd ask for more... say Batum, and Matthews, but Portland has been notoriously wise/stingy in past dealings, so I don't see that changing here, especially combined with our FO's ineptitude...

I have a feeling we're all going to be extremely disappointed, and although the Cats will always be my team, I'll have to divest myself a little bit for the rest of the season if they trade Crash for nothing.

[ammofan]

I can't believe you guys are thinking about jumping ship if we trade Gerald. MJ and Rod are gonna do whats in best interest of the franchise. I have trust in them to do what they feel is best. If thats a TPE from CLE....thats what it is. MJ has to pay this money not us...

A POR deal could be great for us. Rudy/Pryz/Miller would be a great deal.

[Dcarnys]

I'm not saying I'm jumping ship, I would never. But if they trade Crash or Jack for nothing, Im going to be one angry fella.

[ohara831]

If Portland, would be nice to get Oden back.

[Proudiddy]

I can't believe you guys are thinking about jumping ship if we trade Gerald. MJ and Rod are gonna do whats in best interest of the franchise. I have trust in them to do what they feel is best. If thats a TPE from CLE....thats what it is. MJ has to pay this money not us...

A POR deal could be great for us. Rudy/Pryz/Miller would be a great deal.

I'd never jump ship. But what would be the point in intently watching every game knowing we aren't trying to win this season?

I have some attachment to Crash because we've watched him grow. He is and has been THE FRANCHISE. He's been here through the thick and thin. But, I know it's a business and emotional interest doesn't play a part in business... So, I'm fine if he has to be traded in the best interest of our team, but I don't think trading him for nothing is in the best interest of the team.

Let's say MJ clears all this cap room that he wants to... Where are we gonna be, even with a new CBA? NO DIFFERENCE MAKING SUPERSTAR WANTS TO SIGN HERE. So our only options are to acquire them through trade or the draft. That's my problem with these proposed trades...

[WrxErik]

If we make a trade and give up on the playoffs being 1 game out, MJ is going to cement his legacy as an owner because just like the Wiz he is going to send this team down the toilet. I really hope all the rumors are just to see if we can get someone who is desperate to throw us a trade where we come out on the better end of the deal. If not it will make our team look like an even bigger joke. If we trade Wallace and Diaw for cash we wont have a starting PF for at least another month and do we plan on having Hammer and Ups backing up hendo and Jack? Our depth already sucks. Please MJ do not make me hate you and this team because you bought into an investment you couldn't handle. (It wouldn't be the first time)

[stun704]

Combine this report with the one yesterday that Portland is looking to trade both Camby and Miller before the deadline... SMH... We're gonna get garbage back. I don't want Miller and Camby said he'll retire if traded, and IIRC said he did NOT want to play here last year.

I'm hoping for Rudy...

Did this on the trade machine:

OUT:
Crash

IN:
Rudy
Pryz
Babbitt
(maybe a 1st?)
Babbit is liquid ass cheeks? and why trade for rudy? dude is a premadonna who thinks hes way better then he actually is. No thanks

[murphman]

If Portland, would be nice to get Oden back.

That's a lot of money to pay somebody for 20 games a season

[The Prodigy]

How would Rudy Fernandez help us? I dont know too much about him, but I think I would rather have Augustin play. For people who know, is he any good?

[WFU4LIFE]

How would Rudy Fernandez help us? I dont know too much about him, but I think I would rather have Augustin play. For people who know, is he any good?
He's not a PG, so it wouldn't effect Augustin's minutes at all. He can be good, he can light it up at times and is very athletic.

[Proudiddy]

Would you rather get Pryz, Babbitt, and Rudy OR just Pryz and probably Miller.

I'd at least like to take my chances with potential than get back absolute shit.

That was a realistic proposal to me, because in reality, I seriously doubt Portland is gonna give up anything else. They love Batum, Matthews, Armon Johnson has done well...

[murphman]

League sources told FanHouse that the Bobcats and Portland have discussed a trade that would send beloved small forward Gerald Wallace (http://nba.fanhouse.com/players/gerald-wallace/3533) to the Blazers with center DeSagana Diop (http://nba.fanhouse.com/players/desagana-diop/3518) and point guard D.J. Augustin (http://nba.fanhouse.com/players/d.j.-augustin/4471) in exchange for center Marcus Camby (http://nba.fanhouse.com/players/marcus-camby/3084) and point guard Andre Miller (http://nba.fanhouse.com/players/andre-miller/3331).


http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/12/23/bobcats-michael-jordan-plots-next-move-in-wake-of-coaching-chan/

[stun704]

Would you rather get Pryz, Babbitt, and Rudy OR just Pryz and probably Miller.

I'd at least like to take my chances with potential than get back absolute shit.
I don't like portland as trade partners but I would go with something like, Wes Mathews, Pryzbilla, Babbit for Crash/ Mohammed, if we trade crash i want the kitchen sink

[CatNation]

nooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo oooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooo

[WrxErik]

If any of these rumors are true they are make or break moves for the franchise.

[stun704]

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/12/23/bobcats-michael-jordan-plots-next-move-in-wake-of-coaching-chan/
seriously, if the bobcats trade DJ, and Crash for that old ass SHIT, i'm done with this team. Higgins needs to be fired just for ENTERTAINING this idea.

[ammofan]

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/12/23/bobcats-michael-jordan-plots-next-move-in-wake-of-coaching-chan/

Holy crap.......

Diop, GW, DJ
for
Miller, Camby
?????

I dont want DJ to go!

[The Prodigy]

He's not a PG, so it wouldn't effect Augustin's minutes at all. He can be good, he can light it up at times and is very athletic.
Lol I guess that shows how much I knew about him. That sounds fine then, could always use young athletic scorers.

[Proudiddy]

I don't like portland as trade partners but I would go with something like, Wes Mathews, Pryzbilla, Babbit for Crash/ Mohammed, if we trade crash i want the kitchen sink

I edited my post to you... And included Matthews among the guys they won't deal us.

now seeing the updated 'players involved' above, man, MJ is a fucking idiot.

Andre Miller? LMAO.

Camby. Again.

[CatNation]

if we trade Wallace and DJ for Andre Miller and Camby, I probably will stop being a fan. Thats my 2 favorite players for old garbage

[WrxErik]

Since most of these reports are stuff that have been floating around for months, I really hope this is just bloggers and writers trying to get page hits. I mean seriously most of these rumors are old news.

[The Prodigy]

If that trade happens, I will rethink my fanhood. With moves like that, this team will NEVER improve, and they dont deserve my time.

Hopefully it is just another random rumor.

[Proudiddy]

seriously, if the bobcats trade DJ, and Crash for that old ass SHIT, i'm done with this team. Higgins needs to be fired just for ENTERTAINING this idea.

This is why it's so fucked up... I understand that teams discuss trades all the time, but even having this one being discussed realistically is fucking embarrassing and disgusting. Having shit like this leak out is exactly why teams treat us like the giant red lollipop. They know our FO is a joke.

[Dcarnys]

NO!!! NO!!! NO!!! FUCK NO!!!!!!

DJ AND CRASH FOR THAT!?!?!?!

You have to be kidding me. God I hope this is JUST a rumor and NOTHING MORE!!!

[Proudiddy]

Yeah, would be awesome wouldn't it? Camby would come here and retire. And Miller would come here and be the ancient, stat making, primadonna that he is for two more years on our payroll. Full. Of. Awesome.

[WrxErik]

Guys stop freaking out and use some common sense. The dj crash miller camby trade was the same one from months ago. Also if MJ was going to tank this season and trade for cash and pretty much say screw the playoffs why would you even bother giving Silas an 1 year contract. Take a second and you will realize that no moves we made recently and what is being reported adds up at all.

[SMU]

This trade won't happen, it's from back in late December and DJ's value is higher to us than anybody else. Don't buy into all of the rumors, at this point, Crash is still a Bobcat.

[Adam42R]

Guys stop freaking out and use some common sense. The dj crash miller camby trade was the same one from months ago. Also if MJ was going to tank this season and trade for cash and pretty much say screw the playoffs why would you even bother giving Silas an 1 year contract. Take a second and you will realize that no moves we made recently and what is being reported adds up at all.


I am very hopeful that you are correct. I have wondered the same (about extending Silas' contract) and how it seems inconceivable that it was done in conjunction with a salary dump when we are one game out of the playoffs.

[Proudiddy]

Ammo just posted on twitter that a portland blogger is reporting the deal is "done."

[ammofan]

Ammo just posted on twitter that a portland blogger is reporting the deal is "done."

Yep....Guy in POR says he just got off the phone with an NBA Exec. who says the Wallace deal is done.

Bill Ingrim says the Hawks are offering JOSH SMITH for GW!

[DY_nasty]

If we trade DJ and Crash for old ass Miller and Camby, I am done.

[stun704]

Yep....Guy in POR says he just got off the phone with an NBA Exec. who says the Wallace deal is done.

Bill Ingrim says the Hawks are offering JOSH SMITH for GW!
I Would do this, Smith is one of my fav players in the NBA

[Proudiddy]

Yep....Guy in POR says he just got off the phone with an NBA Exec. who says the Wallace deal is done.

Bill Ingrim says the Hawks are offering JOSH SMITH for GW!


Yeah, i just saw your RT of that... Man, if we pulled Josh Smith out of this, I have to admit it would be a bit of a lateral move skill set wise, but I'd be happy b/c Smith is younger. It's definitely better than everything else we're hearing. I'd love it compared to those.

[stun704]

Yep....Guy in POR says he just got off the phone with an NBA Exec. who says the Wallace deal is done.

Bill Ingrim says the Hawks are offering JOSH SMITH for GW!
IM assuming this is Higgins doing, remember MJ has to sign off on it, Colangelo thought the calderon deal was done, yet MJ shot it down

[Brad]

yeah, that Portland deal is garbage. I'd be really disappointed.

[spectre]

Yep....Guy in POR says he just got off the phone with an NBA Exec. who says the Wallace deal is done.

Bill Ingrim says the Hawks are offering JOSH SMITH for GW!

What deal is done?

[spectre]

IM assuming this is Higgins doing, remember MJ has to sign off on it, Colangelo thought the calderon deal was done, yet MJ shot it down

Don't fool yourself. Higgins is just a "yes" man to Jordan.

[ohara831]

Camby will retire. Geting rid of Diop is good, but not with Crash and DJ. This is seriously a complete gutting for nothing but salary cap space. Horrible.

[DY_nasty]

What deal is done?Someone said a deal is "done" and gave no specifics lol

[Brad]

Eddie Curry is supposed to be a FA in the next few days, we could pick him up. </sarcasm>

[spectre]

If we trade DJ and Crash for old ass Miller and Camby, I am done.

You're near Raleigh right? Might be time to get into the Hurricanes.

After we go to Charlotte and kick Jordan in the nuts just for the principle of the thing o'course.

[stun704]

Don't fool yourself. Higgins is just a "yes" man to Jordan.
I remember the saga clearly, Higgins wanted Jose Calderon, then when the GM's agreed to the deal, Jordan had "2nd thoughts" and renigged on the deal. Higgins operates independent from MJ, but MJ still gets the final say.

[spectre]

I remember the saga clearly, Higgins wanted Jose Calderon, then when the GM's agreed to the deal, Jordan had "2nd thoughts" and renigged on the deal. Higgins operates independent from MJ, but MJ still gets the final say.

You're remembering it wrong. Larry Brown got Jordan to kill the Caleron trade. He didn't want to part with Boris.

[jazzer89]

http://www.blazersedge.com/2011/2/23/2010612/wojnarowski-blazers-pushing-hard-for-bobcats-f-gerald-wallace#comments

[WrxErik]

Haha even Portland fans are saying WTF to this mess.

[stun704]

You're remembering it wrong. Larry Brown got Jordan to kill the Caleron trade. He didn't want to part with Boris.
http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/13/jordan-having-second-thoughts-about-dealing-chandler-diaw/

[spectre]

http://www.blazersedge.com/2011/2/23/2010612/wojnarowski-blazers-pushing-hard-for-bobcats-f-gerald-wallace#comments

Near the bottom of that:

http://www.csnnw.com/pages/landing?Gerald-Wallace----Im-hearing-its-real-cl=1&blockID=416407&feedID=8351


Just got off the phone with a member of another team's front office and he confirmed two things for me:

Yes, the Blazers are very close to a deal for Gerald Wallace, likely involving Przybilla, draft choices and perhaps cash. The source told me that he believes the deal is "done."

He also confirmed that the Trail Blazers are shopping Greg Oden around the league. "They want to get something back for him ... they aren't looking to give him away."

[spectre]

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/13/jordan-having-second-thoughts-about-dealing-chandler-diaw/

It's blocked here.

Isn't fanhouse a fan contributor site?

[DY_nasty]

Portland's medical staff?

Wallace won't even make it off the plane

[BRNC]

spectre...Adrian Wojnarowski at HoopsWorld reporting we are seriously talking to Portland also...just a confirmation...

[Boomer]

no Batum or Matthews? Heck no then

[spectre]

It's blocked here.

Isn't fanhouse a fan contributor site?

http://sports.nationalpost.com/2010/07/13/calderon-likely-staying-put-as-jordan-nixes-raptors-bobcats-trade/


The deal was first thrown into doubt on Monday afternoon, when multiple sources told the National Post not to expect the deal to go through during the day, odd for such a widely reported trade. On Monday night, Yahoo! Sports reported that Bobcats owner Michael Jordan was having second thoughts about shipping out Chandler, whose US$12.75-million contract expires after this season. There have also been reports that Bobcats coach Larry Brown was nonplussed with the idea of losing Chandler without obtaining interior help in return.

...but I heard he also didn't want to lose Boris. Remember the thoughts about DJ prior to this year in regards to his lack of distribution.

[jazzer89]

I think if we get Greg Oden, we'd better hope his luck turns for the better with a change of scenery. I would give up Wallace for a deal packaged around Oden and a pick. Oden's value is pretty much worthless at the moment but there is still a hope there that he can turn his career around

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

If we are getting Przybilla for Gerald Wallace then this is a really bad trade for the cats

[SMU]

It's always a bad trade for the Cats...

[Boomer]

If we are getting Przybilla for Gerald Wallace then this is a really bad trade for the cats

this.


10char

[WrxErik]

I thought Adrian Wojnarowski was the only guy reporting this who said his "sources said the deal is done"

[spectre]

I'm shocked that anyone would think we wouldn't get reamed in a deal with Crash. Other than taking on malcontents with huge contracts when have we ever NOT been reamed.

Lollipop. The entire league knows it.

[ammofan]

If we are getting Przybilla for Gerald Wallace then this is a really bad trade for the cats

Pryz for GW straight up doesn't work. We would have to get another guy at least....

[BRNC]

I thought Adrian Wojnarowski was the only guy reporting this who said his "sources said the deal is done"

...that's what I'm hearing but no deal is done until the League office says it's done...so who knows?

[ohara831]

It this turns ourt to be nothing but a salary dump, the league should consider contracting the Bobcats for the simple stupidity of its Front Office. Just put us Bobcat fans out of our misery. Please dont let this be just a salary dump!

[WrxErik]

I've said it before but I hope we are just shopping anyone like any smart owner would do to test the market. If we get someone who gives us a deal that we really like we take it. If not we say sorry everyone but were not going to make any moves.

[The Prodigy]

Please no. I want Batum, Oden, or Matthews from the Blazers. If one of them is not involved, NO DEAL Howie.

[Dcarnys]

For my own sanity, I'm gonna try my best to Ignore rumors until I see there's a legit deal DONE. For my own sanity.

Even that I can't assure. D'OH

[BRNC]

It this turns ourt to be nothing but a salary dump, the league should consider contracting the Bobcats for the simple stupidity of its Front Office. Just put us Bobcat fans out of our misery. Please dont let this be just a salary dump!

We can only hope Obi Wan Kenobi...

[BRNC]

This from Jason Fleming...

Jason Fleming - 02/23/2011 2:56pm EST-
I really don't understand all these trade rumors about Portland and Charlotte forward Gerald Wallace.
They keep coming back, yet when talking to people in and around the Trail Blazers – not Blazers' management – few seem to understand where Wallace would fit. Most people agree he's not an upgrade over Nic Batum, who starts at small forward, and Batum is younger and cheaper. So why take on Wallace?
Also, to match Wallace's $9.5 million contract, Portland would have to send out at least $7.125 million and up to $11.875 million in trade. Who would that be? Starting point guard Andre Miller fits, but that leaves Portland with just Patty Mills at the point. Center Marcus Camby also fits, but leaves Portland even thinner in the middle.
The only way a Portland acquisition for Wallace seems to make sense is if it's setting up some other move. What that could be is still murky.


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18860#ixzz1EoiR8ZzJ

[G-Force for MVP]

Source: Portland Likely to Stand Pat

Posted: 2/23/2011 1:11:00 PM
Source: Jason Quick of The Oregonian

The Trail Blazers appear to be shifting toward standing pat at the trading deadline after several flirtations with teams ran into dead ends, perhaps because of a conflict of philosophy between owner Paul Allen and first-year general manager Rich Cho.

A source late Tuesday night was informed the Blazers were leaning toward holding tight at the Thursday deadline, while another source said he was told “nothing was imminent” on the Blazers' trade front.

One agent with a client on the Blazers said it appears the Blazers are engaged in a philosophical struggle in the front office.


Read more NBA news and insight: http://www.hoopsworld.com/HeadlineStories.asp#ixzz1EoiemXbZ

[WrxErik]

This is getting ridiculous. Nothing adds up which is why rumors are called rumors. I am done with this until I see something on NBA.com or ESPN.com that talks about a deal being officially done.

[Proudiddy]

Well, if Portland is too busy in-fighting to pull a deal, I will gladly take that J-Smoove deal if we HAVE to get rid of Crash.

[BRNC]

Well, if Portland is too busy in-fighting to pull a deal, I will gladly take that J-Smoove deal if we HAVE to get rid of Crash.

That rumor just makes no damn sense at all...why would the Hawks send us Josh Smith for Crash...

[Brad]

Yeah, I'd take the Josh Smith deal.

[G-Force for MVP]

what is the atlanta deal rumor???

[Proudiddy]

That rumor just makes no damn sense at all...why would the Hawks send us Josh Smith for Crash...

Yeah, I don't think it makes any either. Making a move for the same position, with a team in your same division/conference, for an older version of the player you're trading?

But, Bill Ingram said it, so I trust it. And if they want to dump Gerald then that's the best I've seen or heard of in terms of compensation.

[BRNC]

Proud...and I like Ingram also...but it still makes no damn sense...(scratching head on this one)...

[stun704]

I just wish we could keep the DJ/Jax/Crash core together and trade DIaw for Kaman

[CatNation]

this is stressing me out. we're gonna get raped

[ammofan]

this is stressing me out. we're gonna get raped

Me too man....I gotta turrible headache

[DY_nasty]

That rumor just makes no damn sense at all...why would the Hawks send us Josh Smith for Crash...
Did you see the pass he made last night? I'd want him gone after that too lol

[murphman]

Hawks have been shopping Marvin Williams to no takers. They are looking for another versitle PF to give them more of an offensive punch. Crash plus Diaw works on trade machine for Josh Smith and Marvin. MJ would save a little this year and add about 1.5 million to the books next year with this trade. But he really takes a hit after that with Williams long term deal.

[ammofan]

Hawks have been shopping Marvin Williams to no takers. They are looking for another versitle PF to give them more of an offensive punch. Crash plus Diaw works on trade machine for Josh Smith and Marvin. MJ would save a little this year and add about 1.5 million to the books next year with this trade. But he really takes a hit after that with Williams long term deal.

I wouldn't mind a Marvin and Smoove for GW and Diaw deal....

[Dcarnys]

I just wish we could keep the DJ/Jax/Crash core together and trade DIaw for Kaman

I feel ya there.

[stun704]

I want SMOOVE

[ziggy]

I would do the Hawks deal in an instant, but I don't understand why the hawks would do it... plus its within the division and they'd have to face Smith 5 or 6 times per season.

[DY_nasty]

Jax, Josh Smith, Marvin, and Tyrus in the same locker room... I don't even know

[spectre]

Who has insider? On their rumor central site:

Wallace off to Portland?

One report says so.

[teej]

Jax, Josh Smith, Marvin, and Tyrus in the same locker room... I don't even know

One word: Oakley

[Woody]

So much to keep up with in this thread, being on my phone and twitter while searching the internet. Anyone want to go into the chat?

I pray for the love of God we don't just dump salary and please don't trade anyone outside of wallace/jack/diaw

[spectre]

Maybe I'm alone, but I don't want any part of Smith. He's a knucklehead x2.

[CaptainJack1]

Saw this just now: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/report-portland-pushing-hard-for-gerald-wallace-among-other-suitors/

[Brad]

"There's been some chatter Gerald Wallace may get dealt by Thursday's deadline, as ESPN's Chad Ford reported the Bobcats have "aggressively courted the Mavericks, Rockets, Clippers, Pacers and Cavs."

There's also been talk of the Blazers.

As Adrian Wojnarowski of Yahoo! Sports tweeted earlier Wednesday: "Portland is pushing hard and getting closer to completing a deal with Charlotte for Wallace, a league source tells Y! Sports."

And now, according to Dwight James, Wallace is heading to Portland.

"Just got off the phone with an NBA source who says his team believes the Wallace-to-Portland deal is 'done,'" James tweeted Wednesday afternoon.

With Nicolas Batum already in at small forward for the Blazers -- an asset the Blazers were reluctant to part with when Denver tried to include him in a Carmelo Anthony deal -- it's not immediately clear what Wallace's role with the team would be. Though he could potentially be used in the team's frontcourt."

[DY_nasty]

One word: Oakley
Thuggery the likes of which has never been seen before

[Ampsportsduo]

PBT says Crash to Portland is done deal (http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/report-portland-pushing-hard-for-gerald-wallace-among-other-suitors/)

[CatNation]

its all the same crap spreading off that one tweet

[Proudiddy]

Saw this just now: http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/report-portland-pushing-hard-for-gerald-wallace-among-other-suitors/

PFT and PBT usually wont report something until there 95% sure it's done.

If this just happened I'm not watching anymore this season. It just makes no sense.

[ammofan]

It says the deal is Pryz, otehr players and cash for GW......

If those other players include Rudy then Im kinda okay with the deal.

[Brad]

So ... does this help the Bobcats make the playoffs? Not this season. At this point, why not trade Jackson for ANYTHING?

[SWedd523]

If it's anything other than Pryz and Wes Matthews or Nic Batum then I'll strongly consider renouncing my fandom.

[WFU4LIFE]

Fuck MJ and the whole front office if this is true. We are one game out of the playoffs, and you are just going to dump the face of the franchise for some money? You just lost about half of the fanbase by trading away their favorite player to save yourself some money. Nice move numb nuts.

[CaptainJack1]

Sorry guys spoke too soon.

Just went back to the article. Says it "looks like a done deal".

[onajourney]

It says the deal is Pryz, otehr players and cash for GW......

If those other players include Rudy then Im kinda okay with the deal.

It says picks, not other players. What picks does Portland have to offer?

[ammofan]

You guys shouldn't call yourself fans of the Cats if you say you wont watch the games anymore.......thats just wrong!

I support the team no matter what! GO CATS

[rsxnova]

Maybe to move everyone to their natural positions. ?/JJ/Wallace/Horford/?

[Brad]

Yeah, for a team struggling to win games, trading the most popular player for nobody + what figures to be crappy draft picks is going to really cut into their ticket sales.

[SWedd523]

You guys shouldn't call yourself fans of the Cats if you say you wont watch the games anymore.......thats just wrong!

I support the team no matter what! GO CATS
Why support a team who will trade an all star for Joel Pryzbilla?

[ammofan]

Why support a team who will trade an all star for Joel Pryzbilla?

Because sometimes thats what happens. You have to be there with the team no matter what.

[Fred Williamson]

It says picks, not other players. What picks does Portland have to offer?

besides their own? Idunnolol.jpg Maybe some heavily protected 2nd round picks from San Antonio?

Fuck this team.

That's all I have to say right now.

[Proudiddy]

You guys shouldn't call yourself fans of the Cats if you say you wont watch the games anymore.......thats just wrong!

I support the team no matter what! GO CATS

Again, no one can question my fandom of MY teams. I'm with the Bobcats and the Panthers through it all. But, I'm not into masochism. If MJ wants to ruin this season then he can do it, I'm just not going to go through the trouble of sitting in front of my computer each night to watch them purposely lose when I have more productive things to do. And that's another thing, I wouldn't have to sit in front of my computer if our TV deal was worth a shit.

This reported Portland trade is SHIT.

[DY_nasty]

Sorry guys spoke too soon.

Just went back to the article. Says it "looks like a done deal".
LOL I saw that too - they ghost edited that update like hell :facepalm:

[Fred Williamson]

Because sometimes thats what happens. You have to be there with the team no matter what.

well, funny thing is, these things seem always to happen in Charlotte.

[Woody]

If it turns out to be just Pryzbilla and picks, I hope all the guys wanting to "blow it up" are happy

I would much rather make them take diop or caroll with crash and get either rudy, batum, matthews back then just a complete salary dump.

This shit sucks

[DY_nasty]

If it turns out to be just Pryzbilla and picks, I hope all the guys wanting to "blow it up" are happy

I would much rather make them take diop or caroll with crash and get either rudy, batum, matthews back then just a complete salary dump.

This shit sucks
blowing it up =/= bending over and grabbing ankles

and are people really talking about "we're one game out of the playoffs!" when we're 7 under .500? Gotta keep that core together...

[WrxErik]

If you follow the Panthers and Proudiddy I know your on the Huddle so you should know this, NBC pro-anything is usually a bunch of shit. They stated multiple times Steve smith was being traded because his house was for sale. Most panthers fans are hesitant to even give there website page hits.

[Proudiddy]

If it turns out to be just Pryzbilla and picks, I hope all the guys wanting to "blow it up" are happy

I would much rather make them take diop or caroll with crash and get either rudy, batum, matthews back then just a complete salary dump.

This shit sucks

when people say blow it up, they mean getting youth and REAL FIRST ROUND PICKS in return. Portland's shitty ass 20+ picks aren't gonna do shit for us.

Again, nobody worth a shit wants to sign here, so our only hope of getting dominant is hitting on high draft picks and trades. And we suck at both of those, so I guess it's time to realize we suck. For good.

[Proudiddy]

If you follow the Panthers and Proudiddy I know your on the Huddle so you should know this, NBC pro-anything is usually a bunch of shit. They stated multiple times Steve smith was being traded because his house was for sale. Most panthers fans are hesitant to even give there website page hits.

Yeah I know PFT is not well regarded with our fans... BUT, I mean they usually don't report a trade IS DONE unless it happened. I'm not as familiar with PBT though, I hope they're wrong.

[murphman]

I really want to know what picks and which years? If we can get a 1st round pick in 2012 out of it the deal goes from being all out horrible to somewhat horrible.

[Woody]

We go from inquiring about deron williams this morning to on the verge of trading wallace for a useless salary dump

[Fred Williamson]

If it turns out to be just Pryzbilla and picks, I hope all the guys wanting to "blow it up" are happy

I would much rather make them take diop or caroll with crash and get either rudy, batum, matthews back then just a complete salary dump.

This shit sucks

This is not even a "blow it up" trade. It is rape. Do we get young talent in return? No. Do we get a lottery pick in return? Hell no. The only thing we get is another medicore center and a late first round pick.

This makes me sick. Trading the guy 70% of people in the Cable box pay for to watch just got traded for a bag of peanuts. Way to go MJ, way to go you fucking idiot.

[SWedd523]

when people say blow it up, they mean getting youth and REAL FIRST ROUND PICKS in return. Portland's shitty ass 20+ picks aren't gonna do shit for us.

Again, nobody worth a shit wants to sign here, so our only hope of getting dominant is hitting on high draft picks and trades. And we suck at both of those, so I guess it's time to realize we suck. For good.

What this guy said.

[Dcarnys]

I have a bad feeling about this. Regardless of what happens.

[Robertpel9]

I did not mind moving wallace for a need to be filled but not just to save money

what a F'ing joke

http://probasketballtalk.nbcsports.com/2011/02/23/report-portland-pushing-hard-for-gerald-wallace-among-other-suitors/

[SWedd523]

This is not even a "blow it up" trade. It is rape. Do we get young talent in return? No. Do we get a lottery pick in return? Hell no. The only thing we get is another medicore center and a late first round pick.

This makes me sick. Trading the guy 70% of people in the Cable box pay for to watch just got traded for a bag of peanuts. Way to go MJ, way to go you fucking idiot.
and this guy.

[DY_nasty]

This is not even a "blow it up" trade. It is rape. Do we get young talent in return? No. Do we get a lottery pick in return? Hell no. The only thing we get is another medicore center and a late first round pick.

This makes me sick. Trading the guy 70% of people in the Cable box pay for to watch just got traded for a bag of peanuts. Way to go MJ, way to go you fucking idiot.pretty much.

[ziggy]

1.7 points and 3.8 rebounds. this can't possibly be real life.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/vanilla_gorilla.jpg

[rsxnova]

Sounds like we wont even get a reacharound tonight. How can we do this after the Houston offers.

[ammofan]

The heck is going on.....................

[Fred Williamson]

1.7 points and 3.8 rebounds. this can't possibly be real life.

http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w301/bobcatsplanet/vanilla_gorilla.jpg


So we went from a 18/10 small forward to a 2/4 center.

This is pure comedy if you ask me

[Proudiddy]

From Mike... Whew... Crash isn't gone yet...


mikecranston1

Told #Bobcats are "active" in trade discussions on numerous fronts. Nothing is done. GM Rod Higgins busy talking with number of clubs. half a minute ago via TweetDeck

[rsxnova]

So we went from a 18/10 small forward to a 2/4 center.

This is pure comedy if you ask me

Carroll must be demanding another white guy to talk to or he wont resign.

[Brad]

mikecranston1 Mike Cranston
Told #Bobcats are "active" in trade discussions on numerous fronts. Nothing is done. GM Rod Higgins busy talking with number of clubs.

posted just now --

[teej]

Guys.

The PDX rumor is from the LB era. They've been after Crash for three years, never got him.

Stop freaking out.

[Boomer]

Let's not panic until we hear something firm, not some bs hearsay online rumor

[SWedd523]

Guys.

The PDX rumor is from the LB era. They've been after Crash for three years, never got him.

Stop freaking out.
You shut your face!

[Dcarnys]

Am I the only guy here who can't wait for friday?? I don't think anything will go down but this is still pure torture.

[Woody]

blazersedge‎ Source close to situation still says "nothing to confirm" regarding Blazers trade for Gerald Wallace being "done" as of 1:30 PM PST (http://www.rufusonfire.com/2011/2/23/2010887/trade-deadline-open-thread#)

[teej]

You shut your face!

Un-wad your panties, Ms. Deron Williams.

[rsxnova]

Am I the only guy here who can't wait for friday?? I don't think anything will go down but this is still pure torture.

Yea i cant wait if this is the kind of shit we are doing.

[CaptainJack1]

Am I the only guy here who can't wait for friday?? I don't think anything will go down but this is still pure torture.

Same boat that you're in as well.

[fallen xxi]

IS THIS OFFICIAL? Because if it is, there's just no logic here. Portland really must be laughing their asses off right now. We can't even FUCKING get Matthews out of them? Like, honestly? PRYZBILLA? THIS IS REDICULOUS. If MJ does this he really must understand that saving salary cap space while completely throwing the season away and having terrible attendance numbers and no first round draft picks this year is a FUCKING AWFUL BUSINESS PLAN. There BETTER be another trade in the making or MJ will have officially made even more of a complete and utter FUCKING idiot out of himself to the entire basketball community.

If this goes down, FUCK YOU MICHAEL JORDAN. FUCK YOU. You will have completely lost the support of the ONLY community that supported you through this BULLSHIT. Through Sam Vincent, Adam Morrison, Sean May, EVERYTHING..we still had MJ's back because we always had Gerald Wallace to make us a team. Every level of inconsistency this team has had in SIX YEARS has been canceled out because of G-Force. Does he not realize what Gerald means to Charlotte? Gerald IS Charlotte basketball...he's the ONLY player everybody knows. And we give him away for Joel FUCKING Pryzbilla? I'm done. I'm over this. WHAT UTTER BULLSHIT..and ONE GAME OUT OF THE PLAYOFFS? WOW. JUST WOW. Even if this deal doesn't go down, the fact that we put our trust in these people to even hear RUMORS like this is unbelievable. I'm pissed.

[Brad]

I'm hoping this trade was leaked in effort for the Bobcats to get better offers from someone else. To get Pryzbilla and a couple crappy picks, I don't think they are that dumb.

I hope.

[SWedd523]

Un-wad your panties, Ms. Deron Williams.
I don't wear underwear thank you very much!

[ammofan]

This deal isnt done.....the deadline hasnt passed. GW is still a Bobcat.

But we are talking to teams about trades.

[teej]

I don't wear underwear thank you very much!

O Rlly?


If we would have found some way to get Deron, I'd have pooped my panties. They could've had DJ, Crash, and whatever else.

As is, my favorite player just found me a new second favorite team. Keep messing shit up Charlotte and ill turn into a Net fan. Suck on that!

C'mon now.

[SWedd523]

figureofspeech.jpg

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

This deal isnt done.....the deadline hasnt passed. GW is still a Bobcat.

But we are talking to teams about trades.Talking is all fine and good.But if you going to trade GW you better get a very good value in return otherwise don't make the trade

[ammofan]

From Ken Berger:
Package for Wallace believed to be centered around Andre Miller. Marcus Camby was discussed, but he might retire rather than report to Char.

[Boomer]

I can't deal with this shit. I"m literally stressed out right now. I'm going to wait a couple of hours.

[Dcarnys]

From Ken Berger:
Package for Wallace believed to be centered around Andre Miller. Marcus Camby was discussed, but he might retire rather than report to Char.

Eric Dampier pt 2 anybody??

[teej]

Eric Dampier pt 2 anybody??

More re-hashing over December rumors.

No one knows anything.

[murphman]

One has to wonder if what happened last summer with Toronto has happened again. Higgins agrees to a trade, runs it by MJ who says, "hold up a minute, let me make a few calls and see if something better is out there".

[rsxnova]

One has to wonder if what happened last summer with Toronto has happened again. Higgins agrees to a trade, runs it by MJ who says, "hold up a minute, let me make a few calls and see if something better is out there".

If so MJ needs to tell Higs to GTFO and give Steve Kerr a call.

[Woody]

I trust MJ, but Higgins...you aren't gonna do shit.

No way we trade DJ, not after what he's done in Silas' system and not after MJ told him he was his guy and let felton walk.

[Dcarnys]

No one knows anything.

What else is new?? Still all this talk is freaking me the fuck out.

[rsxnova]

On the bright side Portland radio stations are saying it may be Batum.

[ammofan]

On the bright side Portland radio stations are saying it may be Batum.

Where did you see that? It better be.

I bet it is because if we walked away or held up the talks because we couldn't get Batum. The trade doesn't make sense unless Batum is included.

[SMU]

We have to get Matthews or Batum out of this. Higgins and MJ have made bad trades before but this one would be a whole new level of stupidity, I can't honestly believe we'd just swap Crash for Pryzbilla and a couple of picks.

[Proudiddy]

LOL @ some of the Blazers fans... I was just going through searches on Twitter and these dickbags said stuff like "Was anyone SERIOUSLY believing Batum would be included" like it was some asinine idea. MOTHERFUCKERS WE ARE SUPPOSEDLY TRADING YOU A RECENT ALL-STAR FOR SHIT!?!?!? And you think asking for Batum back would be outrageous, lol... Dumbasses.

[Woody]

I know Batum is a great defender and is a good 3 point shooter but I noticed he's only averaging 11.8 a game this year. I haven't had a chance to watch him play much but can someone fill me in with a comparison or how high his ceiling is?

[WFU4LIFE]

I know Batum is a great defender and is a good 3 point shooter but I noticed he's only averaging 11.8 a game this year. I haven't had a chance to watch him play much but can someone fill me in with a comparison or how high his ceiling is?
I can't, but he is only 22. To get a young guy that has serious potential would be great.

[TheGayKid]

http://ridingabuttertub.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/09/698617.jpg

[fallen xxi]

^ Batum is quite frankly one of the most overrated young players in the league. Like, Anthony Randolph status. He's all potential...seems to have good size but needs to put a lot more muscle on to be successful at the 3, streaky shooter, so-so defender. If he's included, I'm much more calm about the trade. He's only 22 and he's got a lot of time to grow, but he's one of those guys that people in Portland believe can grow into a star when, in reality, he's really not going to. He'd be a good addition off the bench for a good team, though.

[ammofan]

I want Batum for Wallace. He's a stud and I would feel comfortable with a young team of DJ, Hendo, Batum, Tyrus

[TheGayKid]

Pryz would be an awesome addition to charlotte down-low. To anyone who would turn their backs on our team simply because of transactions: Fuck off. We don't need whiners and half-hearted followers, we need true fans through thick and thin...

[fallen xxi]

I want Batum for Wallace. He's a stud and I would feel comfortable with a young team of DJ, Hendo, Batum, Tyrus

I'd be more apt for Jack for Batum than Wallace for Batum. Trust me, the guy's overrated and isn't ready to step in and start at SF for us. He's a skinnier UPS with a jumpshot.

[Proudiddy]

Wtf are we doing?!?!?


stevekylernba

sources close to the situation confirm rumored reports... Trail blazers to land gerald wallace from char, still working on player details. 5 minutes ago via tweetdeck

so apparently, we have agreed to trade him but agreeing to terms on whatever bullshit ass garbage portland wants to send back.

[Woody]

stevekylerNBA: Sources close to the situation confirm rumored reports...Trail Blazers to land Gerald Wallace from Char, still working on player details.

[ammofan]

Wtf are we doing?!?!?



so apparently, we have agreed to trade him but agreeing to terms on whatever bullshit ass garbage portland wants to send back.

Dont panic....we dont have any idea what we r getting.

[rsxnova]

^ Batum is quite frankly one of the most overrated young players in the league. Like, Anthony Randolph status. He's all potential...seems to have good size but needs to put a lot more muscle on to be successful at the 3, streaky shooter, so-so defender. If he's included, I'm much more calm about the trade. He's only 22 and he's got a lot of time to grow, but he's one of those guys that people in Portland believe can grow into a star when, in reality, he's really not going to. He'd be a good addition off the bench for a good team, though.

Ill take your Batum and raise you a Roddy Beaubois.

[WFU4LIFE]

Dont panic....we dont have any idea what we r getting.
If it's Batum, or some other player that will help us (Matthews, though there's no way we are getting him, or Rudy) then I will not be mad. I just don't want to lose Crash for bullshit.

[Proudiddy]

Portland: We'll give you Pryzbilla.

MJ/Hig: I don't know, that's not gonna be enough.

Portland: Okay, you've really got our hands tied here... Tell you what... We'll throw in Raef LaFrentz corpse.

MJ/Hig: Damn, you sure know your basketball. We gotta deal!

[fallen xxi]

Ill take your Batum and raise you a Roddy Beaubois.
Touche good sir. Touche.

[Absinthe]

Pryz would be good, but doesn't that leave Portland a little small? No Oden and Camby is old.

[ammofan]

Broussard:

I'm told Cavs-Bobcats talks about Wallace are dead. Wallace didn't want to be in Cleveland anyway. Portland talks real serious.

[Woody]

Chris_Broussard (http://twitter.com/Chris_Broussard)‎ I'm told Cavs-Bobcats talks about Wallace are dead. Wallace didn't want to be in Cleveland anyway. Portland talks real serious.

[teej]

Broussard indicating Wallace wants to be in Portland, slyly.

[fallen xxi]

How are people saying Pryz would be good for Gerald Wallace? WTF is wrong with you people?? Call me when Pryz makes an all star game. No, call me when pryz averages a double double, THEN he's a starting caliber center worth trading your star for. Right now, he's a filler at center. Who's UNBELIEVABLY injury prone, for god sakes the dude was out all season last year because he slipped in the f**king SHOWER.

[Woody]

If we don't get a great package in terms of potential/talent then maybe we need to hold onto crash til the offseason. MJ promised the season ticket holders that his goal was to make the playoffs year in and year out-and said that this team should at the least make the playoffs.

Whatever happens, I just hope it doesn't set us back another 5 years

This was tweeted earlier, showing that we aren't going to give away crash

twithersAP:

Cavs, Bobcats have had on/off again talks about Gerald Wallace. Told 'Cats hesitant to deal Wallace unless they can get lots back.

[TheGayKid]

How are people saying Pryz would be good for Gerald Wallace? WTF is wrong with you people?? Call me when Pryz makes an all star game. No, call me when pryz averages a double double, THEN he's a starting caliber center worth trading your star for. Right now, he's a filler at center. Who's UNBELIEVABLY injury prone, for god sakes the dude was out all season last year because he slipped in the f**king SHOWER.

Wallace is not a star now, and will probably never be a star again, he isn't as consistant as some of the die-hard fans try to make themselves believe, he takes bad shots, he has reached an early athletic prime because of his playing style, and this is probably the highest his trade value will ever be from here on in his career. Having fan-fave players is one thing, WINNING is another.

[coachcdobbs]

How are people saying Pryz would be good for Gerald Wallace? WTF is wrong with you people?? Call me when Pryz makes an all star game. No, call me when pryz averages a double double, THEN he's a starting caliber center worth trading your star for. Right now, he's a filler at center. Who's UNBELIEVABLY injury prone, for god sakes the dude was out all season last year because he slipped in the f**king SHOWER.


Thats the funniest thing I have read all day. Sad, but true. There isnt anyone on Portland I want for Wallace unless its Wes Matthews... but we arent getting him. So I dont really want anyone on the Blazers.

Hooray to getting taken to the cleaners in a trade... again.

[CatNation]

Wallace is not a star now, and will probably never be a star again, he isn't as consistant as some of the die-hard fans try to make themselves believe, he takes bad shots, he has reached an early athletic prime because of his playing style, and this is probably the highest his trade value will ever be from here on in his career. Having fan-fave players is one thing, WINNING is another.

Joel Pryzbilla

[TheGayKid]

I'd take Pryz over wallace EVEN without the picks and money included! We have about as reliable a low-post as 5th grade girls team...

[fallen xxi]

Wallace is not a star now, and will probably never be a star again, he isn't as consistant as some of the die-hard fans try to make themselves believe, he takes bad shots, he has reached an early athletic prime because of his playing style, and this is probably the highest his trade value will ever be from here on in his career. Having fan-fave players is one thing, WINNING is another.

I couldn't agree more, I'm the first person to say trade Gerald. But never, NEVER trade Gerald for nothing. As far as trade value is concerned, Gerald and Jackson are all we have to trade. Jackson's contract scares teams to hell and back leaving Wallace as THE trade bait for this team.
Gerald = Possibility of Playoffs
Pryzbilla = Possibility of nothing.
I'd be more apt to do this if we had a first round pick this year, but we don't even have that. There isn't any room for this team to be making stupid trades, we don't have enough to trade.

EDIT: And if you'd take Pryzbilla over Wallace right now you just aren't smart. Simple as that. You just have no knowledge of the game of basketball or the business that goes along with it. Hate to say it, but it's true.

[CatNation]

I'd take Pryz over wallace EVEN without the picks and money included! We have about as reliable a low-post as 5th grade girls team...

Originally Posted by Troll

[teej]

I'd take Pryz over wallace EVEN without the picks and money included! We have about as reliable a low-post as 5th grade girls team...

Sorry, bro, but that's insane.

I hear David Kahn's front office is hiring.

[sprtsguyshowonyoutube]

While Wallace numbers are down he is still one our best player on the roster.And if you trade away the 2nd best player on your roster.Someone who score around 16 points per game than you need to get good value in return .And getting Joel Pryzbilla is no where near a good trade for us

[CatNation]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18879


could be a multi team trade

[TheGayKid]

I will stand by my words. I couldn't care less as to what you fan-tards see in crash, or hate in Pryz.

[CatNation]

he's like 3 years older than Crash, he's a complete scrub and has been forever. He wouldn't even get minutes ahead of Naz and Kwame.

My 1000th post could not be better spent on this:

You are a dumbass

[TheGayKid]

http://lp.imageg.net/prod?set=key[name],value[PRYZ]&set=key[number],value[10]&set=key[displaysize],value[220]&load=url[http://chains.imageg.net/graphics/dynamic/chains/p8497150_customback.chain]

[WFU4LIFE]

Please stop filling up the thread with asinine statements Troll. No one takes you seriously, and it's obvious you have no knowledge of basketball. These statements you have made are about the stupidest things I could ever imagine anyone saying.

[fallen xxi]

I will stand by my words. I couldn't care less as to what you fan-tards see in crash, or hate in Pryz.

I don't know what you see in Pryz and hate in Crash. It just doesn't make sense. Look at the stats. Pryzbilla is 31 and hasn't even had a good season in his entire career. We don't need rebounding (which is all he can give), because Crash is averaging as many rebounds THIS SEASON as pryzbilla has his entire career. That on top of how Pryz is more injury prone than even Gerald, there is no value for him. You've lost your mind if you think this is smart. You don't even have any evidence to follow up your statement other than that "Gerald isn't what he used to be"

Here's my question for you: WTF has Joel Pryzbilla EVER been??

[TheGayKid]

Please stop filling up the thread with asinine statements Troll. No one takes you seriously, and it's obvious you have no knowledge of basketball. These statements you have made are about the stupidest things I could ever imagine anyone saying.

I could care less whether any one takes me seriously, be honest, the Front office doesn't take ANY of us seriously, these trades are out of ou hands, and to constantly whine and threaten does no good to anyone or anything

[CatNation]

its ok I put him in the red, where all bad trolls belong

[Dcarnys]

I will stand by my words. I couldn't care less as to what you fan-tards see in crash, or hate in Pryz.

Wow, Anyone who follows the NBA will tell you Crash is wayyyy beter the Pryz any day.

[TheGayKid]

Also, I really don't see why you are paying more attention to me than anyone else. Yes my opinion may be full of shit, yes I may be illogical, but does that warrent a barrage of garbage being thrown my way?

[WFU4LIFE]

I could care less whether any one takes me seriously, be honest, the Front office doesn't take ANY of us seriously, these trades are out of ou hands, and to constantly whine and threaten does no good to anyone or anything
So you do care whether people take you seriously huh? The phrase is I couldn't care less. You're only making your ignorance more apparent.

[TheGayKid]

If you would rather me just live this thread I will do that, I just wanted the oppurtunity to voice my opinions (HOWEVER ILLOGICAL) like anyone else. No, I am not trolling, simply stating an opinion that may or may not make sense but I hold that opinion nonetheless... But fine... I'll leave since you guys seemed more focused on my opinions than the trade rumors...

[The Prodigy]

So you do care whether people take you seriously huh? The phrase is I couldn't care less. You're only making your ignorance more apparent.
Honestly. He just needs to be ignored. Anyone with the name Troll is obviously up to no good.

[cls77]

I will stand by my words. I couldn't care less as to what you fan-tards see in crash, or hate in Pryz.

Isn't this The Gay Kid? Such teenage angst.....

and a horrible judge in NBA talent.

[TheGayKid]

By the way, the reason why my name is "Troll" is because my name was originnally "TheGayKid" but people thought I was a troll so I had a good laugh about it and changed my name

[TheGayKid]

I am not trying to argue with you people, I just stated an opinion and noted that it wasn't going to change from your attacking me, and yet you continue to attack me, call me ignorant, call me a dumbass, and all that... Goodness can't you people find someone else to attack? I'm a fan just like you guys.... attack celtics fans or something...

[CatNation]

find me someone else who thinks joel przbilla is as good as crash and I'll call them a dumbass too

[nazsquad]

looks like it could be a multi team trade. Dont get your hopes up yet

[TheLegend]

I don't think we need to worry about Joel since he stated he'll retire if he's trade. From Przybilla to Camby.....

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/rumors/post/Przybilla-retiring-if-traded-?urn=nba-324641

[TheGayKid]

How about I just say I'm sorry? will that make things better????

[ammofan]

looks like it could be a multi team trade. Dont get your hopes up yet

Hmmmm I wonder what we are discussing. Maybe we could get.......nevermind lets not specualte. I already have enough of a headache.

[cls77]

I am not trying to argue with you people, I just stated an opinion and noted that it wasn't going to change from your attacking me, and yet you continue to attack me, call me ignorant, call me a dumbass, and all that... Goodness can't you people find someone else to attack? I'm a fan just like you guys.... attack celtics fans or something...

Everyone is entitled to an opinion, but you can't act surprised to the response you're receiving when you proverbially defecate on the franchise player, and the only original Bobcat remaining, getting traded for a player no more talented than Gana Diop.

Is GW's best days behind him? Probably. But should he be limited to what is no more than a salary dump when we are 1 game out of the playoffs? Yeah, people are going to be just a bit up in arms over that.

[The Prodigy]

If we are trading Wallace, we need youth. Not a 31 year old center who wouldnt even start. Ugh I just want this to be over.

Przybilla also said that he would consider retiring if traded. Whats so good about Portland anyway?

[CrazyCarl139]

Has anyone mentioned that maybe GW has said OK to being traded? MJ/Higgins might have laid out their future plans to GW and he could have said, if possible, trade me.

The Magic did that with Nick Anderson when they started rebuilding after the Shaq/Penny era. He meant to the Magic, what GW means to the Bobcats.

[TheGayKid]

Thats it I'm changing my name to Mrs. Buttersworth and going into exile in Siberia

[Dcarnys]

Has anyone mentioned that maybe GW has said OK to being traded? MJ/Higgins might have laid out their future plans to GW and he could have said, if possible, trade me.

The Magic did that with Nick Anderson when they started rebuilding after the Shaq/Penny era. He meant to the Magic, what GW means to the Bobcats.

If thats the case I'm fine with that, but If thats the case here then why get an over the hill center instead of a prospect and a couple picks??

[G-Force for MVP]

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18880

[CatNation]

lol@MrsButtersworth

[Woody]

where are you guys seeing it may be a multi-team trade? Haven't seen a link

[CatNation]

where are you guys seeing it may be a multi-team trade? Haven't seen a link

http://www.hoopsworld.com/Story.asp?story_id=18879