The least loyal fans are...

[Pepperz]

Charlotte Hornets. HAHAHA.

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/212427/Spurs_Ranked_Number_One_in_Fan_Loyalty

[Boomer]

meh, and the panthers are last in the NFL

[adam187]

Did the thing originally say Hornets (which would be hilarious)? Because if so, they fixed it, so now it's just sad.

[BIGCatBobcat]

meh, and the panthers are last in the NFL

Exactly! We gotta work on this in Charlotte. I mean seriously, my site, we tried since Thursday to GIVE away tickets, we got hits but only one comment until we opened it up to BCP and friends on Facebook. Pepperz, did it say "Hornets" and then got edited?

[ammofan]

How are we the least loyal fans? I mean come on....

[ammofan]

Under further review this list is complete BS.

Look at the lists for other sports:
http://www.brandkeys.com/awards/sports.cfm

San Jose Sharks have more loyal fans then Montreal and Toronto? Um no.

And I wouldn't put Boston, Dallas and PHX in the top 5 in the NBA. What about Portland and OKC?

[Chef]

Under further review this list is complete BS.

Look at the lists for other sports:
http://www.brandkeys.com/awards/sports.cfm

San Jose Sharks have more loyal fans then Montreal and Toronto? Um no.

And I wouldn't put Boston, Dallas and PHX in the top 5 in the NBA. What about Portland and OKC?

boston and dallas fans are definitely top 5.

[Pepperz]

Yeah, it said Charlotte Hornets to begin with. Im wondering when people are going to stop making that mistake.

[BIGCatBobcat]

Yeah, it said Charlotte Hornets to begin with. Im wondering when people are going to stop making that mistake.

You can google-news "Charlotte Hornets" and it'll come up once a week. In years 1-4 it happened every day.

[ammofan]

boston and dallas fans are definitely top 5.

Boston wasn't selling out games before they had the Big Three....back in the Gerald Green, Al Jefferson, Delonte West(The 1st time around) days....

[adam187]

Under further review this list is complete BS.

Look at the lists for other sports:
http://www.brandkeys.com/awards/sports.cfm

San Jose Sharks have more loyal fans then Montreal and Toronto? Um no.

And I wouldn't put Boston, Dallas and PHX in the top 5 in the NBA. What about Portland and OKC?

Yeah, looking at the stuff, it's less about being loyal and more about who's good and has bandwagon fans in their area. On the NFL last 5 list you see teams like the Redskins and Raiders who have great/crazy fans, but since they're down, people in the areas are rooting for the Pats or Colts. Meanwhile, of course everyone who lives in San Antonio is gonna root for the Spurs, so it would make sense that they are #1, while Charlotte itself doesn't have that many Bobcats fans (probably more Lakers and Celtics fans) and so rank last.

I guarantee a list from 10-15 years ago would be completely different which doesn't speak to "loyalty" at all.

[BIGCatBobcat]

Yeah, looking at the stuff, it's less about being loyal and more about who's good and has bandwagon fans in their area. On the NFL last 5 list you see teams like the Redskins and Raiders who have great/crazy fans, but since they're down, people in the areas are rooting for the Pats or Colts. Meanwhile, of course everyone who lives in San Antonio is gonna root for the Spurs, so it would make sense that they are #1, while Charlotte itself doesn't have that many Bobcats fans (probably more Lakers and Celtics fans) and so rank last.

I guarantee a list from 10-15 years ago would be completely different which doesn't speak to "loyalty" at all.

Excellent analysis +1

[ammofan]

Yeah, looking at the stuff, it's less about being loyal and more about who's good and has bandwagon fans in their area. On the NFL last 5 list you see teams like the Redskins and Raiders who have great/crazy fans, but since they're down, people in the areas are rooting for the Pats or Colts. Meanwhile, of course everyone who lives in San Antonio is gonna root for the Spurs, so it would make sense that they are #1, while Charlotte itself doesn't have that many Bobcats fans (probably more Lakers and Celtics fans) and so rank last.

I guarantee a list from 10-15 years ago would be completely different which doesn't speak to "loyalty" at all.

Exactly. And I think they are getting Loyalty and Number of fans mixed up like you said. We just don't have a large amount of fans. But we are still loyal. We on this site are way more loyal than most fans in the NBA. You don't see fan sites anything like BobcatsPlanet for other teams...they have sites but they are boring and the fans are just not as loyal to their teams as we are.

[adam187]

Exactly. And I think they are getting Loyalty and Number of fans mixed up like you said. We just don't have a large amount of fans. But we are still loyal. We on this site are way more loyal than most fans in the NBA. You don't see fan sites anything like BobcatsPlanet for other teams...they have sites but they are boring and the fans are just not as loyal to their teams as we are.

Definitely agree, although sometimes I wonder if we're more masochistic than loyal...

[BobCatsFanInTx]

You know what is even funnier than this idiot calling our team the Hornets? The fact that the guy points to our team as having the least loyal fans. I know that your state does not have the most fans by far but it sure as hell is not a state with the least loyal fans. Maybe your state does not have as many fans of it's NBA team as some others but that is to be expected. The Hornets leaving was like a nasty divorce between couples. The Bobcats were kind of like an arranged marriage against the will of many people in your state. Plus many did not approve of the new home for the team/spouse. So the support of your states sports fans will take some winning and some time. Hopefully soon the Bobcats become a real threat and a great number of fans will return.

I do remember the wonderful marriage everyone had with the Hornets and how you all had sold out and packed arenas for many seasons. The problem is not the people of North Carolina but the left over resentment of losing your beloved Hornets. It is hard to replace a team so loved for so long. I have faith that eventually the spirit of support that the Hornets enjoyed in Charlotte will come back and the Bobcats will have loud and sold out arenas.

[Boomer]

^The fans' "love" will be rekindled once we start competing which ain't happening until we draft a superstar

[SWedd523]

So wait, another person thinks The Bobcats team/FO/fans/arena/food/name/draft history/colors/catering company/seats suck?



WHO CARES

[CaptainJack1]

You guys know how some small towns will shut down whenever the local high school basketball/football team is in the playoffs? Well that's San Antonio when the Spurs are playing. They have a great advantage of being the only major league team in town, and being a winner every year since the 90's.

[GrangerDanger]

Anybody else ever notice on highlights or those who have NBA LP ever notice that the Philips Arena just looks empty at times? Charts show they average 15k plus a game, although it looks as if they average 1500. I was surprised and embarrassed to see the Pacers at the bottom averaging 13.5k a game. Surprised by the fact Ive been to 8 games this year and they seem pretty heavy on attendance. Embarrassed by the fact were fighting to seal the 8th seed and yet the seats aren't filling up with loyal fans like myself to support my team. I personally believe Heat fans are the least loyal LOL.

[Dcarnys]

Fan loyalty is impossible to chart. This list can change in 10, 5, shit maybe even 1 year. Look at Boston before the big three. Im fans of 2 teams in the bottom 5 and 2 in the top 5 (not just NBA), and I think that can be ridiculous. The NBA (Pro sports in general) is a business, you put a crap product out there and no ones gonna bite.

[CatNation]

I don't see how this would surprise anyone. All you have to do is look at this board and carolinahuddle. Charlotte fans prefer moping, whining, and picking fights with each other rather to supporting a team. very depressed city

[Dcarnys]

I don't see how this would surprise anyone. All you have to do is look at this board and carolinahuddle. Charlotte fans prefer moping, whining, and picking fights with each other rather to supporting a team. very depressed city

Because everyones expecting the reincarnation of ether the 93 Hornets or 03 Panthers.

[GoBobs]

# 1 should be the GS warriors easily. I mean they suck for years and years never making the playoffs, but still have tons of fans support. Then they finally make the playoffs and start breaking up the team right away by trading J-Rich for Brandon Wright. I can't even blame Stephen Jackson that much for wanting out. Yet the fans still show up and support them. Now they have been back to sucking again for some time and the fans still show up.

Loyalty is about being there when times aren't so good. This guy is a dumb ass.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

You guys know how some small towns will shut down whenever the local high school basketball/football team is in the playoffs? Well that's San Antonio when the Spurs are playing. They have a great advantage of being the only major league team in town, and being a winner every year since the 90's.The Spurs have enjoyed being one of the most supported teams since I started following pro basketball in the early 80's. They may have enjoyed support even before then but I was too young to know either way. All I do know is that the Texas NBA teams have for the most part had a hungry and supportive fan base.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

# 1 should be the GS warriors easily. I mean they suck for years and years never making the playoffs, but still have tons of fans support. Then they finally make the playoffs and start breaking up the team right away by trading J-Rich for Brandon Wright. I can't even blame Stephen Jackson that much for wanting out. Yet the fans still show up and support them. Now they have been back to sucking again for some time and the fans still show up.

Loyalty is about being there when times aren't so good. This guy is a dumb ass.Golden State fans are awesome!!! I am not a Warriors fan so to speak but I would be very happy for the Warriors fans if they somehow could at least be a regular contender in the Western Conference.

As for the Bobcats I really do feel that a big part of the issue with the Bobcats having arenas that are anything but packed has as much to do with the loss of the Hornets and a new arena many did not want as it does the performance or lack thereof on the court. I followed the Hornets since they came into the NBA and your Hornets were much like the Golden State Warriors are now. The people were behind the Hornets for a long time. With most fan though, when it seems that the leadership is uninterested in at least trying honestly to bring a winner they finally stop showing up to games.

I have never been one to boycott games if the leadership of my favorite teams is at least trying earnestly to win. If it seems that is not the case I can think of other ways to spend my money that would probably benefit me more anyhow.

[jdsingar]

This board is evidence that we don't have a very loyal team. Drop our franchise player and everything goes dead. We're in the playoff chase and our team played their asses off last night for the win against the Bucks, despite being outsized and probably outmatched in the latter portion of the game. Piss poor.

[spectre]

Just how much can we talk about DJ White's upside? We've debated Hendo to death. I suppose we could do another "DJ isn't the answer" thread.

I've drug myself to the computer to watch a weak ass stream for every game since the trade to watch this watered down product. Did it sober too.

That's dedication.

[BlockParty]

This board is evidence that we don't have a very loyal team. Drop our franchise player and everything goes dead. We're in the playoff chase and our team played their asses off last night for the win against the Bucks, despite being outsized and probably outmatched in the latter portion of the game. Piss poor.

I don't disagree with the general theme of your statement, but fans have a right to express their frustration in their own way. A fan that comes on a fan site, leaves a message on a CO article or Bobcat's facebook page cursing the team's decisions is not any more loyal than the person that take a break for a couple games. MJ did jerk our chain w/ the GW deal, especially the STH's. They knew they were unloading him by the all-star break back in December when they put the wheels in motion to have early STH renewals. In the long run, I think the trade will work out very nice for the Cats. In the short run, we'd already have a 2-3 game cushion as the 8th seed and probably be chipping at NY's position as the 7th seed.

Having said that, I'm on board no matter what. My kids were 8 and 5 when the Hornets left, and I will never get those years back to go watch local NBA basketball with them, so I appreciate what we have now (even when they make bone headed decisions).

[jdsingar]

Just how much can we talk about DJ White's upside? We've debated Hendo to death. I suppose we could do another "DJ isn't the answer" thread.

I've drug myself to the computer to watch a weak ass stream for every game since the trade to watch this watered down product. Did it sober too.

That's dedication.

I agree that there isn't much to talk about that hasn't already been discussed. I just figure things would be a little more exciting when we are in a playoff race, albeit a bit of a sad one. I am not excited about the overall outlook for the team moving forward, but it's still my team. I've learned to embrace being below average at this point. I go back to the point about Golden State...they have great fans despite their history of below average play. I don't see why we can't replicate that to some degree.

[SWedd523]

I agree that there isn't much to talk about that hasn't already been discussed. I just figure things would be a little more exciting when we are in a playoff race, albeit a bit of a sad one. I am not excited about the overall outlook for the team moving forward, but it's still my team. I've learned to embrace being below average at this point. I go back to the point about Golden State...they have great fans despite their history of below average play. I don't see why we can't replicate that to some degree.

We don't have anywhere near the excitement factor that a team like Golden State did/does. You have no idea how much more fun it would be watching our team fly up and down the court trying to score 120 every night versus bumbling along just hoping we hit 90. Also factor in a younger Baron/Jack/JRich who all were exciting players and Monta/Steph now and it's really not that hard to see why they have a loyal fanbase

[Chef]

another problem or reason (you can decide which it is) is that alot of fans get more excited at player movement/team development than they do of the actual basketball being played. after the trade deadline alot of fans check out as far as sites like this are concerned because there is no more movement possible. they will come back around lottery/draft time. unless there is a championship quality product alot of fans don't care much for the basketball.

[DCAWFAN]

The Hurricanes seem to have a fairly strong fan base in Raleigh so i was wondering, when will the people of Charlotte begin to become more interested in the bobcats?