Try to Win Out and Hope the Pacers Lose 3? Or Lose out? Or Does it Matter?

[Proudiddy]

So, with 6 games left - 3 of them being against the Magic, Heat, and Hawks, and with us being 2 games behind Indiana and needing to be up at least half a game on them to make the playoffs... What option do you choose?

Should we try to win out and hope they lose enough that we'll get at least half a game on them? I doubt this will happen even if we miraculously won out.

Should we sit all the starters down and lose the last 6 purposely?

Or is it too late that it doesn't matter and doesn't make a difference now?

I'd like to say lose out, but I just don't think it matters with only 6 games left, we really screwed ourselves all the way around and I wish if MJ didn't like where we were he would've decided to address it before the season. This is disgusting.

[Dcarnys]

Im still hoping for the best, but right now any wins are just for morale now in my mind.

[dnbman]

I'd like to say lose out, but I just don't think it matters with only 6 games left, we really screwed ourselves all the way around and I wish if MJ didn't like where we were he would've decided to address it before the season. This is disgusting.

Lose out. I hate it for ticket holders, but we accomplish nothing by winning games. We're banged up, have little depth, and don't have the talent for a playoff run. Bring on the ping-pong balls.

[teej]

Play the young guys as much as possible, and see what happens.

If that means we win all 6, as long as it's by using DJ, Temple, Hendo, Dante, DJ2, and Matty (for the fans) then that's great. Just rest Tyrus and Jack until training camp, bench Kwame and Diaw, and don't use Dom unless necessary.

[dnbman]

Play the young guys as much as possible, and see what happens.

If that means we win all 6, as long as it's by using DJ, Temple, Hendo, Dante, DJ2, and Matty (for the fans) then that's great. Just rest Tyrus and Jack until training camp, bench Kwame and Diaw, and don't use Dom unless necessary.

I can definitely get behind this. I do have a soul. If the youngsters can run it, that could be a huge confidence boost for next year. I just don't see it happening.

[May4prez]

What does the Bobcats draft position even look like next year. I know itll still move some through the last 6 games, but around what pick are the bobcats looking at? Also, what have they traded away or picked up?

[SWedd523]

What does the Bobcats draft position even look like next year. I know itll still move some through the last 6 games, but around what pick are the bobcats looking at? Also, what have they traded away or picked up?
I assume you mean this coming draft?

We're currently in the 10 spot with 32 wins, but depending on how things happen to finish the year, we can be anywhere from 8th (Clippers have 31 wins) to 11th (Golden State has 33) to 15th (if we make the playoffs).

We also own the Hornets pick unless it's in the top 7 which won't happen unless a) they drop out of the playoffs and b) they win the draft lottery. Otherwise, we get their pick which can anywhere from 21st (Portland has 45 wins) to 17th (Philly has 40 wins) to 14th (if they make the playoffs.


To summarize, we own:



Our 9-11 pick
Hornets 18-20 pick
Our 39-41 pick

[dnbman]

To summarize, we own:

Our 9-11 pick
Hornets 18-20 pick
Our 39-41 pick

[golf clap] Well played.

[WAM9]

Great synopsis SWedd. Based on this, since we are currently in the 10 spot, we can only go 1 spot either direction (unless we make the playoffs. I still 100% say that if I had the choice between making the playoffs and getting the 15 pick or missing it and getting the 10 pick, I'll take the playoffs every day of the week.

I also know that we have virtually no chance of winning a series in the playoffs but we could get our 1st playoff win.

With this being said, I don't think we make the playoffs if we tried so that tends to be a moot point.

If the only difference is us being from 9th to 11th, then I say play the young guys as much as possible, rest Jack and Tyrus, and try to win as many of the last handful as possible.

Something about tanking on purpose doesn't sit right with me. Regardless of your record. Basketball is a game that's meant to be won...win if you can.

[dnbman]

Something about tanking on purpose doesn't sit right with me. Regardless of your record. Basketball is a game that's meant to be won...win if you can.

Let me be very clear: I definitely don't want us to go out there and purposefully lose games. However, considering how busted up we are, I don't think we play Jax and Tyrus just to get in the playoffs. As I mentioned before, roll the dice with the youth and see what happens.

[teej]

Also worth noting the chance of winning the lottery from our likely spot is a hair over 1%.

[Let's Go Cats 218]

My answer would be: "It doesn't matter."

At this point, we're not making the playoffs. We lost all hope of making the playoffs the day that MJ got swindled for magic beans! I swear, I LOVE the Bobcats and will always support them... but man, MJ is making it REALLY difficult to understand why we're going to tank 1, maybe 2 seasons for players we're not even sure we'll have a shot at landing.

[Jennings]

Dare to be great! I think that's what MJ is going for. He is a gambler. Let's hope he hits it this time. Only time will tell.

[Ghost Kat]

I don't even know if I care right now. I'm ready for the season to be over if we aren't making the playoffs. It's to late to tank, so bring on the off season trades.

I'm going back to sleep

[Demon DeaCat]

My answer would be: "It doesn't matter."

At this point, we're not making the playoffs. We lost all hope of making the playoffs the day that MJ got swindled for magic beans!

We had a VERY realistic chance of still making the playoffs had it not been for Jack's hammy. We played the last 15 games or so with our best player either out or playing on 1 leg, and virtually the entire second half of the season without TT. Can't blame MJ for that.

[Toocool]

We had a VERY realistic chance of still making the playoffs had it not been for Jack's hammy. We played the last 15 games or so with our best player either out or playing on 1 leg, and virtually the entire second half of the season without TT. Can't blame MJ for that.

We can blame MJ for being a complete cheapass owner though.

[Boomer]

We can blame MJ for being a complete cheapass owner though.

This. You either got to go all in or suck ass and get a high draft pick. Seems like MJ wants to compete and rebuild at the same time but you can't have both.

[JGib23]

We can blame MJ for being a complete cheapass owner though.

I disagree 100%.

You can blame him for some poor cap management but, I don't see him as being cheap!
He traded a draft pick for J Rich's big contract, ok'd paying Emeka & Matt way too much money, offered Diop the full MLE (and eventually traded for that contract after Diop chose the Mavs, offered Felton a contract that averaged 6 million per year that was turned down and resigned Tyrus to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal.

The only cost cutting move he made was trading Chandler for the Dust chip, it was hard to argue with that decision as Chandler was a non factor the year he was here. If it was my team and I could trade Tyson Chandler and his 13 million dollar deal for Kwame Brown and his 1 million dollar deal- I would do it every day of the week. Who here wouldn't?

I guess you could argue that trading Crash was being cheap but, I don't see it that way. I think we had a team that's 2 best players were both SF's and we had a roster that if it overachieved might have been good enough for a 6 seed in the West. We had a young SG that needed time on the court to develop, and has blossomed since the trade. In the end we traded a rotation of Jax, Crash, and Hendo for a rotation of Hendo, Jax, Cunningham, two 1st round picks and 11 million dollars in salary cap space for the next 2 seasons (assuming a new CBA has a cap). To me, while this hurt in the short term(this season) I think it was the right move for the long term.

[Chef]

I disagree 100%.

You can blame him for some poor cap management but, I don't see him as being cheap!
He traded a draft pick for J Rich's big contract, ok'd paying Emeka & Matt way too much money, offered Diop the full MLE (and eventually traded for that contract after Diop chose the Mavs, offered Felton a contract that averaged 6 million per year that was turned down and resigned Tyrus to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal.

The only cost cutting move he made was trading Chandler for the Dust chip, it was hard to argue with that decision as Chandler was a non factor the year he was here. If it was my team and I could trade Tyson Chandler and his 13 million dollar deal for Kwame Brown and his 1 million dollar deal- I would do it every day of the week. Who here wouldn't?

I guess you could argue that trading Crash was being cheap but, I don't see it that way. I think we had a team that's 2 best players were both SF's and we had a roster that if it overachieved might have been good enough for a 6 seed in the West. We had a young SG that needed time on the court to develop, and has blossomed since the trade. In the end we traded a rotation of Jax, Crash, and Hendo for a rotation of Hendo, Jax, Cunningham, two 1st round picks and 11 million dollars in salary cap space for the next 2 seasons (assuming a new CBA has a cap). To me, while this hurt in the short term(this season) I think it was the right move for the long term.

it needed to be done. even if money was the motive and not to take a shot at cp3 and melo, keeping a roster of chandler, ray, crash, jax and boris would not get us close to a ring or even ecf.

[Katmandu]

it needed to be done. even if money was the motive and not to take a shot at cp3 and melo, keeping a roster of chandler, ray, crash, jax and boris would not get us close to a ring or even ecf.

Sad but true. Let's hope the draft Gods smile on us.

[Ghost Kat]

I dont think the draft is deep enough. I'm for packaging both picks to move up. I like DJ.... but he's way to up and down. I like Irving more then Kemba. But I think a SF or other big is needed. This season was a waste from summer league till when the season ends on my birthday. I just dont know what to say about my Bobcats right now.

[spectre]

I disagree 100%.

You can blame him for some poor cap management but, I don't see him as being cheap!
He traded a draft pick for J Rich's big contract, ok'd paying Emeka & Matt way too much money, offered Diop the full MLE (and eventually traded for that contract after Diop chose the Mavs, offered Felton a contract that averaged 6 million per year that was turned down and resigned Tyrus to a 5 year 40 million dollar deal.

The only cost cutting move he made was trading Chandler for the Dust chip, it was hard to argue with that decision as Chandler was a non factor the year he was here. If it was my team and I could trade Tyson Chandler and his 13 million dollar deal for Kwame Brown and his 1 million dollar deal- I would do it every day of the week. Who here wouldn't?

I guess you could argue that trading Crash was being cheap but, I don't see it that way. I think we had a team that's 2 best players were both SF's and we had a roster that if it overachieved might have been good enough for a 6 seed in the West. We had a young SG that needed time on the court to develop, and has blossomed since the trade. In the end we traded a rotation of Jax, Crash, and Hendo for a rotation of Hendo, Jax, Cunningham, two 1st round picks and 11 million dollars in salary cap space for the next 2 seasons (assuming a new CBA has a cap). To me, while this hurt in the short term(this season) I think it was the right move for the long term.

Everything he did up til the Chandler trade was while he was a minority investor. Since he was mostly playing with BJ's money I don't think those prior moves can be credited to the argument about Jordan not being cheap.

I disagree with the last point, but until we see what the ultimate return is we have no way of knowing for sure.

[Plowright]

why is summer league going to be cancelled? news reporters keep saying it will. I know there could be a lockout but still, why cancel summer league?

[teej]

why is summer league going to be cancelled? news reporters keep saying it will. I know there could be a lockout but still, why cancel summer league?

Because I think the players in summer league are still part of the NBA Players Union.

[Jennings]

That really sucks, especially with a young team like we will be next year.