Marc Gasol: Priority #1?

[Proudiddy]

Should Marc Gasol be our #1 priority this off-season? MJ promises to not be inactive again and I think we should have enough money cleared to sign Gasol (and possibly even more if we can find takers on Diaw, Diop, Carroll, etc.). In my mind, this is the most economic and logical solution for our lack of an offensive threat on the block. Sure, we could wait for Dwight Howard, but I don't think he'll even consider us - ANNNND there are already trade rumors that Howard could be moved this off-season so the Magic won't lose him for nothing.

So, in my mind, if we draft well (I'm thinking of a combination like Kemba and/or a quality #3 to bring in to eventually replace Jack and/or another big), get Gasol in here, we are possibly the 4 or 5 seed in the East next year and still have Diaw and others salaries coming off the books to sign another big star next off-season.

What do you guys think? (And no this isn't just b/c of the love fest MG is currently getting during the playoffs, I've been a big fan of his game for awhile and didn't know he was a FA this off-season until the last week or so).

[SWedd523]

I think Marc has always been on a short wish list for fans of most teams. Capable big men are incredibly difficult to come by.


That said, I think we make a token offer (just like 29 other teams in the league) but I doubt he comes to Charlotte, even if we offer him a ton.

[ohara831]

All depends on the Draft. If we get one of the top Centers in the Draft, I would invest in Kwame and try to keep him rather than go for Gasol. But if we dont grab a Center, it may be wise to make a play for Gasol and let Kwame walk.

[Dcarnys]

Why not? Make an offer, whats the worst that can happen. I doubt he comes here, especially if Memphis pulls off the upset against San Antonio.

[stun704]

first of all priority #1 is Dwight Howard as far as centers go, we shouldn't sign an expensive FA Center to a multi year contract until after the '13 off-season. Marc Gasol = locked into mediocrity, prudence is the key.

[SWedd523]

first of all priority #1 is Dwight Howard as far as centers go, we shouldn't sign an expensive FA Center to a multi year contract until after the '13 off-season. Marc Gasol = locked into mediocrity, prudence is the key.
You make him an offer regardless. At worse, you use him as a trade piece to get Howard

[teej]

First plan is to find out if there's any possible way to trade for Dwight.

Second is to draft Kanter or Jonas if available.

Third is to go after Marc.

[Chef]

not to change the subject but this doesn't warrant its own thread and has been brought up already here. what are our odds of actually landing howard? let's assume cp3 is already on board because there is no chance at howard without cp3. if it is above 10% i think we do whatever gives us the best trade package for him, if that means gasol than do it, if not than don't even bother with an offer.

[SWedd523]

It's damn near impossible to say. It depends on cap space, supporting cast, any of the available PG's he may like, trade assets we have, etc. I will say that if we have CP3, Deron, or whatever other PG he'd like to play with, then we'd have a good shot at him. At least as good as anybody else.



However, I don't see what's wrong with signing Marc (assuming he wants to be here) then trading him to Orlando for Dwight when that point comes because if Dwight doesn't want to be here regardless, I'd rather have Marc than nothing at all.

[Chef]

However, I don't see what's wrong with signing Marc (assuming he wants to be here) then trading him to Orlando for Dwight when that point comes because if Dwight doesn't want to be here regardless, I'd rather have Marc than nothing at all.

it matters because gasol isn't worth more than $10 mil per year. he isn't offensively skilled enough to earn more than that and if he gets a big 5 year deal (lets say 5 years $70-75 mil he is getting into the bad contract range. if i am the magic brooke lopez or pau gasol or andrew bynum all look more attractive than an overpaid gasol.

[Boomer]

Memphis is going to match any offer he gets b/c Gasol is a restricted free agent

[SWedd523]

it matters because gasol isn't worth more than $10 mil per year. he isn't offensively skilled enough to earn more than that and if he gets a big 5 year deal (lets say 5 years $70-75 mil he is getting into the bad contract range. if i am the magic brooke lopez or pau gasol or andrew bynum all look more attractive than an overpaid gasol.
Why are you assuming he signs some deal like that? While it's possible, I wouldn't endorse the Cats offering more than 10 a year anyway.

[Chef]

Why are you assuming he signs some deal like that? While it's possible, I wouldn't endorse the Cats offering more than 10 a year anyway.

i just figure most centers (especially promising centers, even though i think gasol is somewhat overrated) are overpaid and i would feel comfortable with him at 7-8 mil per year but really uncomfortable with him at 10mil per year or more. i think he is a bigger more aggressive version of mek, a tough defensive minded center. he is comparable to perkins who just signed for 10 per year.

[Plowright]

so how much do the grizz have free? If they were to match an offer? They have just extended zach.

[ammofan]

I would offer Gasol a pretty hefty contract this summer for a couple reasons:

1. There are very few real Center's in the NBA, he is one of them
2. We most likely are NOT going to get Dwight along with CP3

[SWedd523]

i just figure most centers (especially promising centers, even though i think gasol is somewhat overrated) are overpaid and i would feel comfortable with him at 7-8 mil per year but really uncomfortable with him at 10mil per year or more. i think he is a bigger more aggressive version of mek, a tough defensive minded center. he is comparable to perkins who just signed for 10 per year.

That's very true and a great point. It goes back to the whole supply and demand thing though. After Dwight and Bogut, you have who? Bynum has injury issues, Lopez is a softie, Horford/Pau are PFs, 10 mil might be worth it for a guy who's top 5 in his position.

I don't think we have that much money to offer anyway so it doesn't matter lol.

[DCW]

Hows bout trying to get Jason Thompson. Hes not likely to be with the Kings much longer.

[Chef]

Hows bout trying to get Jason Thompson. Hes not likely to be with the Kings much longer.

i like him alot and we could maybe get him at 4 or 5 mil per. the only thing i am concerned about is he is more of pf than a center and with TT, boris, dj we are pretty full at pf (even though the only one i am interested in keeping is dj because of his contract).

[teej]

After Dwight and Bogut, you have who? Bynum has injury issues, Lopez is a softie, Horford/Pau are PFs, 10 mil might be worth it for a guy who's top 5 in his position.

Hibbert and Noah, but I get your point.

It all depends on the new CBA and how much cap this team has.

[Fred Williamson]

First plan is to find out if there's any possible way to trade for Dwight.

Second is to draft Kanter or Jonas if available.

Third is to go after Marc.

who's Jonas?

[teej]

who's Jonas?

Jonas Valanciunas

http://www.draftexpress.com/profile/Jonas-Valanciunas-5622/

[Plowright]

Not to mention Nene, mcgee and hibbert

[adam187]

Guys fuck Marc Gasol! Obviously we should be going after TYSON CHANDLER! He's a can't miss kind of guy! Sure, we may have to out bid Mark Cuban, but it will be TOTALLY WORTH IT!

(Sarcasm)

More seriously, I don't think Marc Gasol is the answer, we should probably just look for a big man through the draft(s). Most are too expensive (or old) for us right now anyways.

In my opinion, we should give Diop some burn. Before his injury, I believe Silas & Co. had moved him into the starting line-up. Let him play. He had obviously impressed them somewhat, maybe he could provide a decent defensive presence.

(Just looked at his stats, he's never averaged more than 19 minutes a game. Put a fucking gun to my head, I hate this guy so much, how is that possible. Ugh. I still stand by what I said though.)

[GoBobs]

If we are going to rebuild that means tanking. We don't need to pay top dollar for guys lake Mark Gasol. That will just get us back to the eight spot. Look at he Hawks, they have very good players at most positions but no stars and they don't contend. Go for broke with Howard and CP3, if that doesn't work we need several lottery picks to build a solid team.

[dnbman]

If we are going to rebuild that means tanking. We don't need to pay top dollar for guys lake Mark Gasol. That will just get us back to the eight spot. Look at he Hawks, they have very good players at most positions but no stars and they don't contend. Go for broke with Howard and CP3, if that doesn't work we need several lottery picks to build a solid team.

If we could get him on the cheap, so be it. Bird in the hand, as they say. However, I definitely don't want to reach for the guy exactly for your reasons.

[Chef]

If we are going to rebuild that means tanking. We don't need to pay top dollar for guys lake Mark Gasol. That will just get us back to the eight spot. Look at he Hawks, they have very good players at most positions but no stars and they don't contend. Go for broke with Howard and CP3, if that doesn't work we need several lottery picks to build a solid team.

this is the answer to this thread. case closed.

[Plowright]

If we could get him on the cheap, so be it. Bird in the hand, as they say. However, I definitely don't want to reach for the guy exactly for your reasons.


there is no way we could ever get him on the cheap

[dnbman]

there is no way we could ever get him on the cheap

I didn't say we could. However, I'm a believer in conditionals. For instance, if Deborah Ann Woll, the red head vampire from True Blood, ever shows up at my door and tries to seduce me, my wife will allow it. Always be prepared to accept fortune.

[LiquidWayno]

who's Jonas?

He's carrying the wheel. BOOM, WEEZER'D

[Plowright]

With Memphis doing so well can you see Marc leaving?

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213478/Nene_May_Opt_Out_Of_Contract_This_Summer

Now this on the other hand! I know he will prob go to a contender but i'd be happy with throwing a deal at him

[ziggy]

I'd love to have him, but we'd probably have to seriously overpay to get him to come here.

[Plowright]

I know, but we can dream can't we

[Snidely FC]

No.

You're going after the wrong Grizz C. We should sign Hamed Haddadi as an unrestricted free agent. Haddadi 7'2" 265 25 yo 2.4 ppg 2.2 rbg in 5 mpg PER is 19.78. He would be practically free. Remember, 2 yrs ago people thought MGasol was a dud. We need low risk high efficiency players to bide time. Get them before they blow up . . . or they suck and help our next draft position.

Don't like "Who's your" Haddadi? Then how about Kyrylo Fesenko? (John Hollinger: Fesenko can help the right team for one single reason: The dude is huge.) 7'1" 280 24 yo. (According to basketballvalue.com, Utah gives up 97.53 points per 100 possessions when he's on the floor … and 109.78 when he isn't.). Unrestricted free agent. Will cost nothing.

Cap space and Roster space are key to rebuilding. NO new contracts over $4/ unless to a tranformational player like CP3 or DH12.

[Boomer]

overpaying for a very good (not great) veteran center is not one of the best things we can do. Invest in scouting, draft well, and develop players while maintaining cap space

[skratch]

If Grizzlies beat Thunder then i dont see how you would get Gasol, Im pretty sure memphis wants to keep all its pieces there looking like a championship contender out there, you got a better shot at workin something out for pau gasol after his bad season with LA this year then marc, but if bobcats can match a offer go for it, wouldnt mind, but theres probably alot of teams after him who are better like NY & Miami who need centers. I also wouldnt mind trading a couple players for Rudy Gay (seeing memphis doesnt need him at all and theres already trade rumors with the 76ers for him) but it doesnt look like we have the young talent to even be in the mix

[Boomer]

If Grizzlies beat Thunder then i dont see how you would get Gasol, Im pretty sure memphis wants to keep all its pieces there looking like a championship contender out there, you got a better shot at workin something out for pau gasol after his bad season with LA this year then marc, but if bobcats can match a offer go for it, wouldnt mind, but theres probably alot of teams after him who are better like NY & Miami who need centers. I also wouldnt mind trading a couple players for Rudy Gay (seeing memphis doesnt need him at all and theres already trade rumors with the 76ers for him) but it doesnt look like we have the young talent to even be in the mix

Interesting. Personally, I wouldn't want to bring on Rudy Gay because of that contract but worse things could happen, he's showing improvement. Anyway, I wouldn't give up Henderson (good player on rook contract) and we don't really have much else, they'd have no need for DJ as Conley has been solid.