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dav7z
04-27-2011, 07:19 AM
From all the mocks most of thease should be around. THE BIG BOARD
9th pick
Explain why you would take this player at nine

Marcus Morris
A Berks
T Jones
T Thompson
K Walker
j Valanclunus

The 19th pick
B Biyombo
j Hamilton
T Harris
K Leonard
Markiff Morris
Nolan Smith

Who would you pick with each pick [EXPLAIN WHY ] You are the GM.
Mods if you could fix some nice poles it would be nice.

Plowright
04-27-2011, 07:30 AM
cant see Biyombo there at 19, also can we not vote for 19?

Anyway i pick Hamilton all day at 19

dav7z
04-27-2011, 07:38 AM
cant see Biyombo there at 19, also can we not vote for 19?

Anyway i pick Hamilton all day at 19
Im hopeing a Mod can make a 2nd pole for the 19th pick .
I checked five mocks most have Biyombo around at 19 range though i expect him to break the top 10 after the combine
That guy reminds me of a Big Ben . With slightly more offence game . Very unpolished player . Hard to put a value on .

Toocool
04-27-2011, 09:08 AM
9th Pick:
Jonas V without a doubt. Dude is like Ajinca, except more polished and far more determined (and hard working) to succeed. Higher BBIQ also, and huge room for improvement. At best: More offensively talented Rich-man's Tyson Chandler.

19th Pick:
Hamilton, taken as he's a good shooter. May struggle to defend the 3 in NBA, however I'm sure with some work he can improve. Already able to spread the floor with his shooting.

2nd Round Pick:
BENSONNNNN

Bobcats, I'll let you sign me to be your GM for 2 years, starting at 1 mil per season. You won't regret it.

ohara831
04-27-2011, 09:16 AM
9th: We go with best available, which will be Terrence Jones. He will play the SF for us with Hendo as SG in the future, once Jax is gone.

19th. Either Montiejunas or The Jimmer, whichever is still on the Board. Both these guys could go anytime after #10, but I think that one of them will slide and be there. Not saying they are who I really want, but rather what I think will happen as of right now. If either of them tear it up at Draft Camp, they could move themselves up and out of our range at #19.

Plowright
04-27-2011, 07:08 PM
Can i just say to all those people who voted for Jonas Valucunas, he prob will not be able to come over to the nba for 2-3 years because of his contract. If he didn't have that problem then i would have voted for him now. Do we really want another ricky Rubio situation?

also http://www.draftexpress.com/nba-mock-draft/2011/ and http://www.mynbadraft.com/2011-NBA-Mock-Draft

Have Bismark going 6... i trust draft express especially
we should also have Vesley in the vote for 9th

frontpager
04-27-2011, 10:14 PM
Im not sure if Jordan Hamilton falls to 19... hes a lotto pick.. I think we should draft him at 9, Valunciunas or whatever will be gone, so will most players mentioned.. At 19 just get depth at position such as tyler honeycutt, ken faried, a morris twin, cory joseph, nolan smith, kyle singler... then in second round go with benson because he is best big man available

ziggy
04-28-2011, 07:08 AM
Edited poll to add Jan Vesely

ohara831
04-28-2011, 09:25 AM
I have to say I am surprised that out of 14 votes, I am the only one who sees Terrence Jones going #9. Not that he is my preference, but that he will be the best player available at the time and we cannot afford to pass on him. I dont see either of the 2 big Euro Centers being around at #9. Berks could be the pick besides Jones, but I think Jones has a bit more upside. But I just dont see either of the Bigs being on the Board for Charlotte at #9.

Plowright
04-28-2011, 11:02 AM
it was a toss up between berks and jones. Id be happy with either

SWedd523
04-28-2011, 11:03 AM
It's Burks guys. With a U.

dav7z
04-28-2011, 01:26 PM
Im not sure if Jordan Hamilton falls to 19... hes a lotto pick.. I think we should draft him at 9, Valunciunas or whatever will be gone, so will most players mentioned.. At 19 just get depth at position such as tyler honeycutt, ken faried, a morris twin, cory joseph, nolan smith, kyle singler... then in second round go with benson because he is best big man available

1 Irving
2 Williams
3 Kanter
4 Motiesumas
5. Knight
6 Vesely
Players who should be gone befor we pick
7 Valanclunas
8 Jones,
9 Burks
10 Walker
11 T Thompson
12 Morris
At LEAST FOUR OF THEASE GUYS SHOULD BE AROUND WHEN WE PICK.
Guys i don't like thet i think will go be for our 19th pick, Jimmer , Klay Thompson, Biyombo. , Biyombo might go top six??
From my favorite back
13 K Leonard
14 J Hamilton
15 T Huneycutt
16 Markief Morris
17 Biyombo
18 T Harris
19 N Smith.
Thats 19 decent player s and two more i don't like . We should get a servicable player at 19th all so.

dav7z
04-28-2011, 01:35 PM
Burks is my top pick because i think . J Hamilton will be gone at 19th
Jones i like a lot all so but , We then go either Klay Thompson , N Smith or hope Hamilton falls.

dav7z
04-28-2011, 01:40 PM
Edited poll to add Jan Vesely

Hope he does but i don't think Vesley falls below sixth . We hit a home run if hes thair at nine.

LiquidWayno
04-28-2011, 04:39 PM
I'm no xenophobe, but international players make me nervous. Definitely interested in the Euro bigs if available though.

frontpager
05-15-2011, 01:22 AM
I am nervous on european big men as well. Vesely loves to dunk on people and and can stretch floor they say.. We are logjammed at 4 however. Burks might be top 5 player out of this draft so if he falls we should nab him and have him play 6th man as well as the when small. Gerald being 6'4 has the strength to play against a 3 if needed too. Burks is just pick best player available. Main prospects we should look at that, that are reasonable are burks, hamilton, kawhi leonard for 9.. singler, tobias harris, nolan smith, honeycutt, thompson, fredette at 19.

ohara831
05-18-2011, 07:33 AM
Post Lottery: Chad Ford has us taking Biyombo at #9 and Jordan Hamilton at #19. Hamilton is a steal at #19. Biyombo is a gamble which would pay off big or be another bad pick. Either way, a very interesting draft if it turns out that way.

adam187
05-18-2011, 01:38 PM
Post Lottery: Chad Ford has us taking Biyombo at #9 and Jordan Hamilton at #19. Hamilton is a steal at #19. Biyombo is a gamble which would pay off big or be another bad pick. Either way, a very interesting draft if it turns out that way.

Based on my very limited knowledge, that sounds wonderful to me. I hope that's what happens (I'll be sure to change my mind a million more times in the next month).

ohara831
05-18-2011, 02:08 PM
If I had to make a guess at what happens, at least at this moment, my prediction would be as folllows:
#9 Burks
#19 Reggie Jackson
#39 Jordan Williams

If we get this, that would be good value for each where they are being selected. Right now, I could see each of these going a few spots ahead of where we pick. But these 3 would all be able to be in the rotation for playing time as Rookies. At least under Paul Silas - not that jackass we use to have coaching us.

BRNC
05-21-2011, 01:33 PM
I went Burks with 9....

19 I really like Chris Singleton...if not there then Hamilton or Honeycutt...

WAM9
05-21-2011, 04:53 PM
I went Burks with 9....

19 I really like Chris Singleton...if not there then Hamilton or Honeycutt...

Singleton at #19 would be a gift that I would love to get.

For a draft that is supposed to be weak, I actually am starting to think we can get a starter at #9 and a possible top 7-8 guy with #19. There may not be many obvious superstars in this draft but I am starting to beleive there are plenty of solid starters here. Regardless of who they are, if we get 25% of our top 8 players going forward from this draft, it has to be considered a success for sure.

Marvel
05-21-2011, 07:25 PM
Biyombo at 9, if he's there. Other prospects i like at 9:

- Kawhi, either Morris twins.

19 -Reggie Jackson, Singleton, Justin Harper, Honeycutt, Malcolm Lee......Faried.

2nd round:

- Greg Smith, i'd consider Jeremy Tyler

CrazyCarl139
05-21-2011, 09:00 PM
If everything turns out perfectly, we'll get Alec Burks at #9, Jordan Hamilton at #19 and Reggie Jackson at #39. Burks and Hamilton are offensive weapons, which we really need.

Considering we have Stephen Jackson, but he isn't a part of our long term plan, we can trade him or keep him around to take some pressure off the young guys and give them time to develop.

Long term, we're looking at a 1-3 rotation of:
1 - Augustin / Jackson
2 - Burks / Henderson
3 - Hamilton / Henderson

ohara831
05-21-2011, 09:38 PM
If we grab Burks at #9 as I would like, then I would be inclined to go Big at #19. Would love for Monti to fall to #19. Dont expect it, but it would be great.

polarcat
05-22-2011, 08:50 AM
Doubt Jordan Hamilton lasts til 19, but if we go Burks at 9, I would do cartwheels for Hamilton at 19. As for Jackson, dude should be gone in the early 20's at the latest..... no way he's there at 39. I don't want Burks at 9, but after that Observer article and the way the first 8 picks might shake down, I have to accept that it's a very strong possibility. Considering Leonard and Hamilton will be gone at 19, I'd be happy Valuci-spell check was there, but if not, I'd take either Singleton or maybe Jordan Williams, depending on how his pro day is. Let's say it's Burks and Singleton, then in the 2nd round, I'd go with Vucevic or Benson.

dav7z
05-22-2011, 04:12 PM
If I had to make a guess at what happens, at least at this moment, my prediction would be as folllows:
#9 Burks
#19 Reggie Jackson
#39 Jordan Williams

If we get this, that would be good value for each where they are being selected. Right now, I could see each of these going a few spots ahead of where we pick. But these 3 would all be able to be in the rotation for playing time as Rookies. At least under Paul Silas - not that jackass we use to have coaching us.
Williams would be a steal at 39th International players will go quick at the start of the 2nd round . Its a good chance Williams falls to . Im ranking him very high as the 2nd best center in this draft. Burks is a combo and could play either guard spot . Burks and Hendo would be a very long big set of guards,. I like Singlton or a small foward at 19th . Im expecting Jax to be traded

ohara831
05-22-2011, 09:03 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news;_ylt=AqKOP.f1vV.jI5GvhLRFNOu8vLYF?slug=ycn-8514315

Interesting that Valanciunas is ahead of Kanter on the boards of Clev., Tor. and Detroit. Surprising to me.

Looks like Vucevic and Marshon Brooks did themselves well in the Combine. Vucevic may actually work his way into consideration at #19 if we take Burks at #9 and Monti is off the board.

ohara831
05-23-2011, 07:45 AM
Chris Singleton has moved up to #10 on ESPN Big Board. Good SF and a lockdown defender. Wonder if he comes into play for #9 pick for Charlotte? The defensive aspect of his game is huge.

polarcat
05-23-2011, 08:56 AM
I think Singleton is going to be a good pick in this draft, but I'm guessing ESPN's big board is Chad Ford, right? I was watching some of the combine on ESPNU, and Ford was all over Singleton's jock.... even over Leonard. I like Singleton, and feel like he and Hamilton are going to be in "no-man's land" for us between picks 10-18....too early at 9, and too late at 19.

ohara831
05-23-2011, 10:45 AM
Just saw a mock where Charlotte takes Valanciunas at #9 and Faried at #19. If we trade Diaw and #39 for another quality pick and get anther scorer, I'd be very happy.

dav7z
05-23-2011, 11:35 AM
nba mock draft 2011 Beachler has us taking
9# Vasley
19th Singleton
39th J Williams

If we could land those three it would be the best draft ever for the Bobcats

ohara831
05-23-2011, 01:03 PM
nba mock draft 2011 Beachler has us taking
9# Vasley
19th Singleton
39th J Williams

If we could land those three it would be the best draft ever for the Bobcats

Agreed. Dont see any wasted pick and all 3 would come a good value with where they were picked.

Plowright
05-23-2011, 01:42 PM
I agree, if Vesley is there at 9 you gotta take him

ZCar312
05-23-2011, 04:11 PM
#9-Jonas Valanclunus
#19-Chris Singleton
#39-Best Available

ohara831
05-23-2011, 05:17 PM
#9-Jonas Valanclunus
#19-Chris Singleton
#39-Best Available

If Valanciunas and Singleton are both there at #9 and #19, I think it would be hard for the FO to pass on them. I just think it will be very close on whether they both make it to the picks or are taken a few selections before.

frontpager
05-23-2011, 09:40 PM
Vesely will not fall, Raptors are in love with him i guess, but even if he does and Burks is still around we should take Burks. The 3 spot is the deepest position in draft, Burks can play both 2 and 3 and then we can grab Singleton or Tobias Harris at 19 to play 3/4 off bench as well. Just more versatility. However our best pick would be Jordan Hamilton, scouts say he is best pure scorer in draft and he deserves look at 9 and is a must at 19 no matter what we pick at 9. At 39 best available better be option. Shelvin Mack, Kyle Singer, Keith Benson, Jeremy Tyler, Reggie Jackson, Nolan Smith all are around there, maybe even Malcolm Lee, UCLA players numbers are always deflated because of that offense. Jeremy Tyler would fill a need for us at 39, he is 6-11, great athleticism and is young. A Deandre Jordan clone is what he is.

dav7z
05-23-2011, 11:09 PM
Vesely will not fall, Raptors are in love with him i guess, but even if he does and Burks is still around we should take Burks. The 3 spot is the deepest position in draft, Burks can play both 2 and 3 and then we can grab Singleton or Tobias Harris at 19 to play 3/4 off bench as well. Just more versatility. However our best pick would be Jordan Hamilton, scouts say he is best pure scorer in draft and he deserves look at 9 and is a must at 19 no matter what we pick at 9. At 39 best available better be option. Shelvin Mack, Kyle Singer, Keith Benson, Jeremy Tyler, Reggie Jackson, Nolan Smith all are around there, maybe even Malcolm Lee, UCLA players numbers are always deflated because of that offense. Jeremy Tyler would fill a need for us at 39, he is 6-11, great athleticism and is young. A Deandre Jordan clone is what he is.

Acording to Beachler all the guys you stated has really helped thair stock. N Smith , and Singler are slated to go in the mid 30s . I agree with you about Burks hes slated at 10th. I just have a feeling about his game. Burks, Singleton, J Williams makes the most sence.
Burks can play the point and the two position Filling two holes and can create his own offence.
Singleton his defence deserves a 19th pick . He can all so play some four with his size . Hiss offence is better than most think .
Williams at 6.11 260 and can score the ball, Has decent hands . Decent on the boards. Oak could make this kid a solid starter
Drafting that way we addressing five needs , Picking one kid who has a chance to be a star in Burks. He compares himself to T Mac all ready . Saying hes just a better version LOVE THE SWAGER AND CONFIDENCE.