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Proudiddy
05-23-2011, 07:42 AM
http://www.nba.com/bobcats/?tmd=1

Check out the 2nd feature on the front page, has #9 shown on as Alec Burks. Think there's something to it? They say it's based off of 11 different mocks that have him at #9, but when I clicked on the link, the mocks shown there don't have Alec Burks at #9 AT ALL, at least that I saw.

Anybody else think this is significant, being that it IS our official site? It then has us taking Klay Thompson at 19 and Chandler Parsons at 39. I'd like that draft and we would definitely have at least one impact player as a rookie and would be deep and talented for the future at the wings... Although, I don't know that I like that we would ignore the bigs, especially the 5, AGAIN.

ohara831
05-23-2011, 08:44 AM
They just take the mocks and then avg the total. He was ninth highest, that's all. We pick 9, so that is how they do it. Landing both Burks and Thompson in the 1st would definitely give us a lift, but I cannot see taking 2 SG's in the 1st. Agree that I would prefer a Big in the 1st as well, but these are 2 good players. If something like that happened, someone is being moved to a new city.

polarcat
05-23-2011, 08:47 AM
Pretty crappy draft considering it's our official website. We already have a former lottery pick at SG in Henderson, yet we take not one, but two SG's with our two first round picks. I get Burks' versatility and BPA at 9, and I like Thompson as the best pure SG in this draft, but why overload a position with Henderson already in the wings.

SWedd523
05-23-2011, 12:39 PM
It's not the Bobcats' take on a mock guys. What they do is gather up all of the mocks and average out a players position. It just happened that all of the mocks they used had Alec averaged out as ninth.

Don't read anything into it other than it being a good idea of what most of the big mocks think will happen

Plowright
05-23-2011, 01:41 PM
its a net mock draft, chill

WAM9
05-23-2011, 01:53 PM
its a net mock draft, chill

^^^ This ^^^

ammofan
05-23-2011, 03:06 PM
Burks, Thompson, and PARSONS???? SICK!

Proudiddy
05-23-2011, 05:24 PM
Yeah, I figured they were averaged out because he wasn't selected 9th in any of the mocks. Also, I found it interesting that I read recently the Bucks have reportedly expressed interest in Burks, who pick after us... So, it seems he'll fall right around that area. And I wouldn't be mad with that pick at all, especially if he turns out to be a Brandon Roy-type player, because he can help at the point and give us some versatility in lineups when not playing at the 2.

Several drafts had us taking that Jan Vessely guy, who ESPN's Chris Broussard said might be the most athletic player in the draft. I don't know how I feel about taking him though.

ohara831
05-23-2011, 07:08 PM
Yeah, I figured they were averaged out because he wasn't selected 9th in any of the mocks. Also, I found it interesting that I read recently the Bucks have reportedly expressed interest in Burks, who pick after us... So, it seems he'll fall right around that area. And I wouldn't be mad with that pick at all, especially if he turns out to be a Brandon Roy-type player, because he can help at the point and give us some versatility in lineups when not playing at the 2.

Several drafts had us taking that Jan Vessely guy, who ESPN's Chris Broussard said might be the most athletic player in the draft. I don't know how I feel about taking him though.

If Vesely is on the board at #9, he will likely be a Bobcat. He's got a lot of talent and we could use him.

frontpager
05-23-2011, 09:44 PM
Vesely is still a potential based player. We need player like Hamilton or Burks that can contribute right away. After watching Vesely highlights, there is no difference between him and Tyrus Thomas. We already invested in Thomas, might as well invest in a future 3 such as Burks or Hamilton.

Plowright
05-24-2011, 08:44 AM
After watching Vesely highlights, there is no difference between him and Tyrus Thomas

Apart from Vesely shooting 31% from the three point line...

polarcat
05-24-2011, 09:57 AM
Don't let Vessely's height/weight make you think he's a PF, because he will be a SF in the NBA. Comparing him to T2 doesn't seem right, if anything, Tristan Thompson is this year's Tyrus Thomas. Vessely is an athletic smooth gliding, 3-point shooting SF in a PF's body. If he's there at 9, which would be amazing, we have to snag him. I've seen him go in the 4-7 range in most mocks.

Plowright
05-24-2011, 10:18 AM
Yer, if he drops brilliant, take him no quesitons asked

WAM9
05-24-2011, 10:20 AM
Vesely is definitely a SF although he is 6'11'' and really not even close to Tyrus Thomas. They are both really athletic, that's about it.

I doubt he will be available a #9 but if he is, I would take him in a heartbeat!

bes628
05-24-2011, 02:22 PM
Id rather have Burks than Vesley..just because idk how our staff would handle developing a foreigner and then there is always a chance he pulls a Rubio move and just stays overseas. Then on the other side he could be really really good for us.

Chef
05-24-2011, 02:50 PM
just because idk how our staff would handle developing a foreigner.

excellent point i have not yet factored in. man that is a bummer about our team.

ohara831
05-24-2011, 02:59 PM
Id rather have Burks than Vesley..just because idk how our staff would handle developing a foreigner and then there is always a chance he pulls a Rubio move and just stays overseas. Then on the other side he could be really really good for us.

I would have to go with Vesely over Burks if both are there at #9. There wont be as many talented Bigs available at #19 as there will be smaller scorers. And Vesely is different as he is a big SF which will make him tough to defend and create matchup problems for opponents. He is listed as a PF, but he is a SF in his abilities. I am not going to say he is another Dirk, but they have similarities. Dirk is 7'0 and 245 lbs and Vesely is 6'11 and 240 lbs. Both can finish around the rim with authority and also have solid range on their jumper out to the 3 pt line. And this kid is very young. He will get stronger and put on a bit more weight. Just dont see how you pass on this potential if he is around at #9.

polarcat
05-24-2011, 06:05 PM
Dirk is 7'0 and 245 lbs and Vesely is 6'11 and 240 lbs. Both can finish around the rim with authority and also have solid range on their jumper out to the 3 pt line. And this kid is very young. He will get stronger and put on a bit more weight. Just dont see how you pass on this potential if he is around at #9.

^^ this, though like many have stated, i doubt he's there at 9. we have to hope players like tristan thompson, kawhi leonard, and maybe even singleton blow some gm's away between now and the draft so that they get scooped up in the top 8 so that a player like vesely drops in our lap. like ohara said, not trying to claim vesely is the next dirk, but there are similarities and who wouldn't want another one of him on their team.

Proudiddy
05-24-2011, 08:27 PM
I would have to go with Vesely over Burks if both are there at #9. There wont be as many talented Bigs available at #19 as there will be smaller scorers. And Vesely is different as he is a big SF which will make him tough to defend and create matchup problems for opponents. He is listed as a PF, but he is a SF in his abilities. I am not going to say he is another Dirk, but they have similarities. Dirk is 7'0 and 245 lbs and Vesely is 6'11 and 240 lbs. Both can finish around the rim with authority and also have solid range on their jumper out to the 3 pt line. And this kid is very young. He will get stronger and put on a bit more weight. Just dont see how you pass on this potential if he is around at #9.

That would be a great situation, but I'm worried about the Euro/oversea player stigma - he's soft. Even Dirk has been viewed as soft his whole career until these playoffs. And Dirk would be the best-case scenario, I'm worried that Vesely may turn out to be more like Yi Jianlian than Dirk. So, I kind of prefer Burks if he is comparable to Brandon Roy, but then again, if Vesely is determined to be good, I could see how that could be an awesome pick for us. I guess I'm just going to have to accept whoever we pick and hope for the best.

We REALLY need to address center in the off-season though regardless.

ND22
05-24-2011, 08:30 PM
Burks, Burks, Burks. He can score, contribute immediately, and probably play a little 3. Plus, we don't know how Henderson will recover.

bes628
05-25-2011, 07:58 AM
Plus, we don't know how Henderson will recover.

So very true.