Nick Young boycotting Jordan gear

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Linkage (http://larrybrownsports.com/basketball/nick-young-michael-jordan-gear-labor-talks/97009)

Do you think any other players will take this same sort of stance against the Jordan brand?

It looks as if the players are very aware of MJ's hardline position.


Pacers swingman Paul George tweeted (http://twitter.com/King24George/status/133057710571798528) that Jordan wants players to get no more than 37% of basketball related income.
Warriors rookie Klay Thompson responded to George by saying “You think (http://twitter.com/KlayThompson/status/133065591413157888) the 1996 MJ would pull this? Straight hypocrite bro.”
George agreed with Thompson saying that Jordan was a “straight hypocrite (http://twitter.com/King24George/status/133066096042455040)” who “should’ve been the first one behind [the players].”

[Gary Devon Linger]

If what they say about Jordan is true I can understand the players displeasure. As far as the hypocrite part I think that is easy to say as a player but MJ is no longer looking through the lens of a player but now he sees things through an owners perspective. That said I do think MJ is way off base when so many owners have been more than open to the 50/50 split.

[Felton for Prez]

This is certainly not going to help him recruit players to the Queen City down the road.

[SWedd523]

Paul George, Klay Thompson, and Nick Young are assclowns. Plain and simple. If these idiots think Mike should've been the "first one behind the players" then they're really driving home the "players are dumb" label.

These are players who will never (not even combined) reach the greatness that MJ achieved both on the court so they need to sit back and respect the fact that the only reason why they have even a modicum of bargaining power is because MJ put the NBA on a world map. Fucking bums.

[dav7z]

Paul George, Klay Thompson, and Nick Young are assclowns. Plain and simple. If these idiots think Mike should've been the "first one behind the players" then they're really driving home the "players are dumb" label.

These are players who will never (not even combined) reach the greatness that MJ achieved both on the court so they need to sit back and respect the fact that the only reason why they have even a modicum of bargaining power is because MJ put the NBA on a world map. Fucking bums.

Great post compleatly agree
Damn at 50% the gready bastards are still talking a 60 milion dollar cap.. The big name players is more sceard of pairty. And a hard line cap so some teams wont spend a 100milion in salery. Offer Nick Young a big contract from MJ. We couldn't get his noze out of MJs ass.

[ohara831]

When this is all settled, everything will be fogiven and forgotten. It wont mean a hill of beans to the players. Come FA time, they will only care about who will pay them the most and where they have a chance to make a Playoff run. And honestly, I dont MJ cares what they say right now. A few years from now, if someone can help this Bobcat team in the Playoffs, I dont think MJ will care what they said in October 2011. Winning and money makes strange bedfellows.

[spectre]

David Aldridge - NBA.com (http://www.nba.com/2011/news/features/david_aldridge/11/07/remembering-magic-johnson-hiv-announcement/index.html?ls=iref:nbahpt1)


One prominent agent who is normally slow to anger called last Friday at 11 p.m. He would never, he said, ever send another one of his players to Charlotte. Jordan, he said, was a rank hypocrite, who tried to get every last dollar out of Jerry Reinsdorf's pocket as a player, yet slammed the door shut on other players who only wanted the same opportunity.

When he was a player, Jordan seethed at being underpaid by the Bulls for most of his career. He famously chided the late Wizards owner Abe Pollin at a meeting during the last lockout in 1998, saying, "if you can't make a profit, sell your team."

It isn't known if any of the players at Saturday's collective bargaining session in New York, which Jordan attended, said the same thing to him. But others weren't happy.
"Damn, MJ...That's how you feel?," Pacers second-year forward Paul George tweeted early Sunday morning (http://twitter.com/#%21/King24George/status/133056425940369408).

Minutes later, apparently responding to Timberwolves rookie guard Malcolm Lee's question, George tweeted about Jordan (http://twitter.com/#%21/King24George/status/133057710571798528): "he said we gettin too much on that 50-50 (BRI number) and want us to get 37"...

And George tweeted to Golden State rookie Klay Thompson (http://twitter.com/#%21/King24George/status/133066096042455040): "man straight hypocrite bro.. He should've been the 1st one behind us smh"

Certainly, people are allowed to change their views over time, and Jordan has to think about a much bigger picture now that he's signing the checks rather than cashing them. Yet Jordan is involved in business arrangements with many of the players whose salaries he's seeking to reduce. His Jordan Brand has among its endorsing clients Dwyane Wade, Chris Paul, Carmelo Anthony, Rip Hamilton Gerald Wallace and Ray Allen.

But it isn't just Jordan. There is incredible anger among players just under the surface. Anger at having to give up hundreds of millions of dollars, of course, but also anger stemming from their feeling that they aren't being treated as partners by the owners, but as employees. Certainly, they aren't partners in the financial sense; they aren't making payrolls or buying insurance, or taking on massive service debts. But that anger, no matter what side of the divide you are on, is real, and it threatens to do great damage to the league well after the lockout is over. I cannot tell you how furious players are that this lockout continues.

"The guys are going bananas," another agent with several star players said Sunday night.

Over and over in the last two weeks, I have heard the same refrain from players and agents, from big markets and small ones, max guys and minimum salaried guys. You can forget asking about community service work. You can forget asking for cooperation for NBA Cares. Basketball Without Borders? Don't even ask. All of the public service requests that the league has made of its players -- in part, it must be said, to quell fan anger after the Brawl at Auburn Hills in 2004 -- are in jeopardy.

And one agent intimated that players who would normally try to gut their way through injuries and assorted other hurts now will wait until they're 100 percent before returning to the court. Why should they jeopardize their careers, the agent asked, when the owners obviously care nothing about them?

"They're being treated like employees," the slow-to-anger agent said. "And people who are treated like employees are 9-to-5ers. They punch the clock and they're out the door."

[SWedd523]

One prominent agent who is normally slow to anger called last Friday at 11 p.m. He would never, he said, ever send another one of his players to Charlotte. Jordan, he said, was a rank hypocrite, who tried to get every last dollar out of Jerry Reinsdorf's pocket as a player, yet slammed the door shut on other players who only wanted the same opportunity.

Ohhhhhhhh noooooooooooooooo

http://www.thefeeherytheory.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/08/Disney-Chicken-Little-Sky-Falling.jpg

Like agents would advise their clients to come to Charlotte anyway? Agents realize that they get less money when the players do... and they're even more overpaid than the players are. No agent is going to advise a player come to Charlotte vs a bigger market if the pay is equal anyway so it's not like we lost a competitive advantage.

Continuing that line of thought, if an agent has SO MUCH control over a player that they dictate where the player goes, then the players are a) reinforcing the stereotype that they're uneducated buffoons and b) beyond pathetic for not controlling their own lives.




As for complaining about being treated like employees, the players are absolutely, without a doubt, employees. The owners put up 100% of the risk in this business venture, and the players are the ones who perform the duties that the business (team) is employed in. That's like me going to visit my mom and then complaining about her treating me like a kid even though I'm an adult, "You're still MY kid so shut up and clean off the table"

If they don't want to be treated like employees, then they need to assume more risks in the running of the franchises

[stun704]

Why does nick young need to wear jordan brand gear anyway.. can't he rock his own? Oh wait....

[Chef]

Paul George, Klay Thompson, and Nick Young are assclowns. Plain and simple. If these idiots think Mike should've been the "first one behind the players" then they're really driving home the "players are dumb" label.

These are players who will never (not even combined) reach the greatness that MJ achieved both on the court so they need to sit back and respect the fact that the only reason why they have even a modicum of bargaining power is because MJ put the NBA on a world map. Fucking bums.

these players are showing exactly why they don't belong in negotiations. what jordan and the other small market team owners are doing is ensuring the long term survival of the league. if they don't do what they are doing, the league will eventually be forced to contract. if the league contracts players like these won't have jobs.

[Scottley Crue]

Wait, Nick Young is off the Jordan brand? Well, might as well close up shop. You can't sell anything if you ain't go Nick Young's approval.

[SWedd523]

Why does nick young need to wear jordan brand gear anyway.. can't he rock his own? Oh wait....

Probably mad guys like DJ got signed to JB and he didn't lol

[ND22]

Jordan isn't a player anymore. His priority is the survival of his franchise. I'm curious if Klay Thompson or Nick Young have any original thoughts to fix the lockout.

[SWedd523]

Found out why Klay Thompson doesn't like MJ

http://bkref.com/tiny/3CxMd

34/7/6/3!!

[superb1]

Found out why Klay Thompson doesn't like MJ

http://bkref.com/tiny/3CxMd

34/7/6/3!!

ouch! lol
well he'll be owed like daddy

[superb1]

I don't think have these players really actually knos what is going on. More and more, I'm really hating the players. I only care about Charlotte players (my homerism stepping in).

On a morning show, they were joking about how these players were going to these meetings with briefcases. I doubt there were anything in them but their lunch.

Really MJ was a cerebral player and I doubt anything changed as he has become an owner. f*ck Nick and Klay. I think we could have drafted Klay. glad we didn't

[SWedd523]

You know, maybe not drafting him led to some of the bitterness as well?


You're right though, I think a very small fraction of these players are actually capable of being successful college or businessmen if it weren't for their athletic talent. And I'm right there with you on disliking most players. There's probably less than 20 NBA players that I actually like. But I've always been a bigger college basketball fan so maybe that's just what's shining through

[Toocool]

Nick Young. Henderson says hello and denies your stupid ass clown comments

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L9TrypcHONU


Really, hypocritical does come to mind with MJ, but players have to get off their high horse and realize that they're not 'everything.' You know the league has a problem when guys like Stoudamire and Anthony hold their teams hostage, forcing them to be traded or lose them in FA.

[stun704]

Fuck Paula George too

[Plowright]

http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/216397/Prominent_Agent_Promises_To_Never_Send_Another_Pla yer_To_Bobcats

This could get annoying

[spectre]

What I'd like to know is who exactly this "prominent" agent has sent here in the past?

Idiots.

[BobCatsFanInTx]

I don't agree with MJ or any of the owners being hardline in the face of accepting a 50/50 BRI split. None the less there are players who were hardline regarding that split earlier in the negotiations and many owners are pissed and feel the players blew their chance.

As far as this shit about MJ being a hypocrite that is pure BS. MJ is no longer a player, he owns a basketball team and he has to protect his self interest. I do not see where acting in his best interest is a problem. In these CBA discussions both players and owners are fighting to get deals that best serve them. That is the nature of the business side of sports.

However in these current negotiations the players need not bellyache about making some concessions since the last CBA strongly favored the players. If the players have to make serious concessions at this time when we are in a serious recession than so be it.

None the less I think both the players and the owners need to stop squabbling about the 50/50 BRI even split. It is petty and stupid. I realize that there are some other minor issues at hand but this BRI issue is ridiculous. Time to shit or get off the pot. If they all want to be idiots they can ruin their product for a long long time.

[superb1]

Also you have to think that there is a difference in mismanaging your business and a big market owner can lose money with mismanagement. Then there is being an owner especially in the small markets where the system is stack against you to make a profit. I'm for Jordan.

This is what one formal player thinks about Jordan position.

http://blogs.charlotte.com/inside_th...or-jordan.html

[Sik Infant]

Paul George, Klay Thompson, and Nick Young are assclowns. Plain and simple. If these idiots think Mike should've been the "first one behind the players" then they're really driving home the "players are dumb" label.

These are players who will never (not even combined) reach the greatness that MJ achieved both on the court so they need to sit back and respect the fact that the only reason why they have even a modicum of bargaining power is because MJ put the NBA on a world map. Fucking bums.

It seems they do not understand business at all & have little to no regard for what MJ has done for the NBA.

Klay Thompson needs to shut the fuck up as he has literally done nothing on an NBA court & will be lucky to make it past his rookie contract in the league.

Nick Young is as dumb as a rock so I'm pretty sure we can ignore anything he says.