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kjk2241
11-30-2011, 10:07 AM
Lockout is over and Bobcat basketball is on the horizon. The problem is very few people around the league or hell around Charlotte care. The Charlotte Bobcats are an afterthought. If we lost the year unfortunately most people wouldn't even care. The Bobcats under Michael Jordan have done a tremendous amount for the community and hopefully the community starts to take notice. But there is really only one thing that the community will take notice to and that is wins.
So what can the bobcats do to become relevant?

1. No short cuts or quick fixes.
A. Free Agency has been a horrible thing for our young franchise. Who wants to come here and why? Small market teams must overpay and large market teams can get a discount for a chance at a championship.
B. Trades have been at times successful and at times complete busts for us. We now put our confidence in Cho and we all hope that will make a huge difference. We need to take care of the cap which we have never done before in an effort to "Win Now".

2. Drafts. I read on here and other forums about tanking for a high draft pick for next year and that makes a lot of sense but how many pieces are we missing? Do we all think we are just one "Superstar" away from being a relevant team? I do not know a lot about the 2012 draft but is there many can't miss stars in the making? If so the 2012 draft will be the most important in Bobcat history. If we draft a great complementary player, we are back to 7th/8th seeds and middle of the road draft picks.

Honestly it depends on the way the league responds after the lockout. If we have the super power teams in large markets with small markets getting the leftovers, the Bobcats will suffer. I hope that these teams with large named stars fail and the team aspect comes back. If it does we are in good shape. I for one am glad basketball is back and can't wait to see our new team and new draft picks. It might be a long season but we can't bet against the Bobcats or Jordan.

SWedd523
11-30-2011, 10:21 AM
Draft a superstar. It's as simple (and difficult) as that.


People HATED the Thunder when they moved out of Seattle. Hated the name, hated the colors, hated to ownership. Then they drafted Kevin Durant and now everyone loves and has forgiven them for everything.


That's what we have to do

ohara831
11-30-2011, 10:35 AM
I think Davis, Barnes and Drummond have the "superstar" potential. But I think that the picks for the rest of the Lottery will be high impact players who can help right away and if they exceed expectations a little could become pseudo superstars. Then, there are likely another 5-6 players who will be able to be quality players in the NBA for a long time. I fully expect a Top 5 pick in 2012 as I think MJ will play our young players this season. I think we will be trying like heck to make a trade for another mid range 1st in an effort to get 2 major players in this 2012 draft. My feeling is that we will be using DJ or the 2013 1st from Portland as part of the trade bait to get that 2012 pick also.

You take Hendo, Kemba, Bismack, and add 2 young potential starts from the 2012 pick, and I think you have a very solid nucleus. That is how we become relevant in any talk of being a contender. I would hope to keep DJ here, but my thinking is he would be gone as part of any package to get the additional 2012 pick.

SWedd523
11-30-2011, 10:47 AM
The problem is that you can have a solid, even great nucleus. And it won't matter one bit until you get a superstar.

You could have this starting unit

Steph Curry
Eric Gordon
Danny Granger
Serge Ibaka
DeMarcus Cousins


And still not win. All of those players are great secondary pieces, and an awesome nucleus. But without that superstar, they have just about no chance of winning. We need to draft and draft and drat until we get that superstar. After that, everything else falls into line much easier

anton273
11-30-2011, 11:07 AM
I Agree with what your saying that team would be fun to have hahah!! But a team like Memphis had no superstar when they went on their playoff run..... Obviously lacked that superstar quality in the end!!

How likely is it that we can get 2 top 15-20 picks picks this year??


My advent calendar for December now says 25 days til ball season!!!!!!

kjk2241
11-30-2011, 11:26 AM
Swedd I completely agree and that is what worries me. We really need to hit homerun and find our superstar I'm the next year or we run the risk of falling in the same situation of being good enough to be average. I do believe we have some good complementary pieces but need to find that player or players that can just take games over

docend24
11-30-2011, 11:31 AM
2012 pick is crucial but it shouldn't make us immediately better as we need to draft well next year too. Luckily this years draft is deep so many teams will get better. Superstar with a bit longer learning curve is pretty much what we would benefit from the most this year.

I would rather stay away from scenarios counting on us acquiring another pick this year. It's wishful thinking because of the crop and lack of our assets. And reality can suprise us as last time when Cho pull off that draft day trade everybody should love.

We are bound to make a leap in 2013-2014 not before. Expirings of 2013 as trade assets or cap space, most likely two picks and all the time to test young underrated players and find some keepers in then previous two seasons (2011-2013). Possibly Silas Jr. being with the nucleus from their day one would be groomed to take the keys by that time too.

SWedd523
11-30-2011, 11:42 AM
How likely is it that we can get 2 top 15-20 picks picks this year??
Realistically? Very slim. The 2012 draft is perceived to be very strong. For us to get another mid round pick, we'd have to send out some talent or cap space and get less in return. And that's something I just don't want to do at this point. Keep in mind that we still have Portland's protected 2013 pick.



Swedd I completely agree and that is what worries me. We really need to hit homerun and find our superstar I'm the next year or we run the risk of falling in the same situation of being good enough to be average. I do believe we have some good complementary pieces but need to find that player or players that can just take games over

That's what makes it so difficult to be a great NBA team. There are maybe 5-10 players in this league that can be the first piece of a title contender. All we can do is keep trying and trying until we get lucky enough to take that superstar. Had Orlando stayed with Mek, we'd have Dwight. Had the coin flip changed or we went through with a trade, we'd have CP3, had we got a team a year earlier, we could've had LeBron, Wade, Bosh, Melo, etc.


But we can't complain about that now. All we can do is keep trying until we get that guy. We sure have waited long enough!

JGib23
11-30-2011, 12:19 PM
Truth is, we are atleast 2 offseasons away from really being able to do anything. Our cap is a mess and we don't have a lot of talent that can bring anything of value back.

We could have a pretty solid nucleus already in place. (Kemba, Hendo, Tyrus, Bismack- that 4 pieces to a pretty solid 8 man rotation- assuming DJ won't be around next season)

PG- I think that Kemba has special ability and could be an all start level PG eventually (not every year but a 2 or 3 time all star doesn't sound far fetched)
SG- I really like Henderson and think that he could be a solid starting SG in the league for the next 6-8 years. (A double digit scorer with a good mid range game and lock down defense)
SF- Needs to be addressed in the Draft- Hopefully we get our superstar here in this years draft that is loaded with SF's
PF- Tyrus and Bismack together should provide us with the Defense and rebounding and will be as atheltic as any PF rotation in the league.
C- HUGE HOLE, Unless we land Drummond in the Draft- I'm not sure what we can do here besides overpaying a free agent.... This needs to be priority # 1 but, the options are so limited, that it could stay priority #1 for a few seasons and still not have a long term solution.

Bench- We really need a Combo Guard that could allow Kemba to get some minutes off the ball and defend the other teams SG. We also need a three point threat to stretch some defense out.

bes628
11-30-2011, 03:19 PM
i've come to terms with the fact that we will be stuck in irrelevancy until we are contracted.

SWedd523
11-30-2011, 03:41 PM
i've come to terms with the fact that we will be stuck in irrelevancy until we are contracted.

That's the spirit!

dav7z
11-30-2011, 03:46 PM
Truth is, we are atleast 2 offseasons away from really being able to do anything. Our cap is a mess and we don't have a lot of talent that can bring anything of value back.

We could have a pretty solid nucleus already in place. (Kemba, Hendo, Tyrus, Bismack- that 4 pieces to a pretty solid 8 man rotation- assuming DJ won't be around next season)

PG- I think that Kemba has special ability and could be an all start level PG eventually (not every year but a 2 or 3 time all star doesn't sound far fetched)
SG- I really like Henderson and think that he could be a solid starting SG in the league for the next 6-8 years. (A double digit scorer with a good mid range game and lock down defense)
SF- Needs to be addressed in the Draft- Hopefully we get our superstar here in this years draft that is loaded with SF's
PF- Tyrus and Bismack together should provide us with the Defense and rebounding and will be as atheltic as any PF rotation in the league.
C- HUGE HOLE, Unless we land Drummond in the Draft- I'm not sure what we can do here besides overpaying a free agent.... This needs to be priority # 1 but, the options are so limited, that it could stay priority #1 for a few seasons and still not have a long term solution.

Bench- We really need a Combo Guard that could allow Kemba to get some minutes off the ball and defend the other teams SG. We also need a three point threat to stretch some defense out.

I can,t understand us drafting Smack as a p/f in this league . His offensive game is limited. He can,t spread the floor or slash to the basket . His midrange game is a ? at best . Even at 6.9 his wingspan is hudge . He all so has a very nice vertacle leap. A very lean 240 pound frame thet could add 20 more pounds easy. I see him as a very good nba center with in three years. All star quilaty isn't out of the question. But he has to play center. He don;t have the offence to play p/f in todays game.

anton273
11-30-2011, 03:50 PM
Been watching a fair few college games this season and i am really impressed with the quality that is out there!

I'd hate to make the decision when it comes... will always leave some fans disappointed!

Its going to be a LONG season i think...

GOBOBCATS24
11-30-2011, 04:08 PM
If we play our cards right we will have a good amount of cap space heading into this offseason. If we amnesty Diop and basically give away Bad Porn for an expiring then I think we can head into the offseason with roughly $30 Million to play with cap wise. They have a plan. This is the start of a new era for the Cats. I am as optimistic as I have ever been. We finally have flexibility to work with. Basically a whole new coaching staff, roster, and front office. Also this would rely on MJ just paying the difference as far as not meeting the minimum cap requirements. If a team doesn't meet that the Owner has to pay the difference to the players

JGib23
11-30-2011, 04:31 PM
I can,t understand us drafting Smack as a p/f in this league . His offensive game is limited. He can,t spread the floor or slash to the basket . His midrange game is a ? at best . Even at 6.9 his wingspan is hudge . He all so has a very nice vertacle leap. A very lean 240 pound frame thet could add 20 more pounds easy. I see him as a very good nba center with in three years. All star quilaty isn't out of the question. But he has to play center. He don;t have the offence to play p/f in todays game.

I hope and pray that he can be a dominant defensive force at Center and with the lack of Quality Centers in the league- I think even at 6' 9" he could hold his own....

I worry a little about a Tyrus/Bismack front court though offensively becuase neither have a offensive post game that could demand a double team. I think at some point we need a post presence that other teams have to honor. Defensivly though they would be shot blocking demons.

kjk2241
11-30-2011, 04:48 PM
If we play our cards right we will have a good amount of cap space heading into this offseason. If we amnesty Diop and basically give away Bad Porn for an expiring then I think we can head into the offseason with roughly $30 Million to play with cap wise. They have a plan. This is the start of a new era for the Cats. I am as optimistic as I have ever been. We finally have flexibility to work with. Basically a whole new coaching staff, roster, and front office. Also this would rely on MJ just paying the difference as far as not meeting the minimum cap requirements. If a team doesn't meet that the Owner has to pay the difference to the players

I agree with this but who do we go after? IMO we will go after solid tier 2 and tier 3 players in FA. We will need to draft the superstar. I don't think we have the pieces yet to attract the likes of huge superstar players. Let's look at the most talked about:

1. CP3 - Carolina connection and Jordan brand. Has been linked to NY and now Boston with him saying no to Boston. I guess he would be our best bet but I am thinking a trade would be the only way to get him. And if we trade we would have to give up everything that we have of value to get him.

2. Howard - Pipe dream. People say we get both CP3 and Howard. I think CP3 gives us our best shot at Howard but I just can't see that at all

3. Dont know what other guys are up for FA in 2012 and 2013 that are huge difference makers

I just can't fathom hypothetical acquisitions with tier 1 FA. If we can pull that off I would gladly eat crow. The way the NBA is headed is like college football super-conferences.

Instead of teams trying to acquire players to compete, the players are trying to build teams to compete with the likes of the NY and MIA. Can Charlotte be a destination that the players want to go?

docend24
11-30-2011, 05:07 PM
If we play our cards wrong we will have a good amount of cap space heading into this offseason. If we amnesty Diop and basically give away Bad Porn for an expiring then I think we can head into the offseason with roughly $30 Million to play with cap wise. They have a plan. This is the start of a new struggle for the Cats. I am as optimistic as I have ever been. We finally have flexibility to work with. Basically a whole new coaching staff, roster, and front office. Also this would rely on MJ just paying the difference as far as not meeting the minimum cap requirements. If a team doesn't meet that the Owner has to pay the difference to the players

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SWedd523
11-30-2011, 06:17 PM
I can,t understand us drafting Smack as a p/f in this league . His offensive game is limited. He can,t spread the floor or slash to the basket . His midrange game is a ? at best . Even at 6.9 his wingspan is hudge . He all so has a very nice vertacle leap. A very lean 240 pound frame thet could add 20 more pounds easy. I see him as a very good nba center with in three years. All star quilaty isn't out of the question. But he has to play center. He don;t have the offence to play p/f in todays game.
I really don't think it matters what we label him as. He has the speed to check mobile bigs and the strength to guard the bruisers. All we need is an offensively gifted big to pair with him and the frontline is set (assuming Bismack can be a difference maker on defense)

BB and LMa (a PF) would be awesome
BB and Brook Lopez (a C) would be nice too

dav7z
11-30-2011, 06:28 PM
I really don't think it matters what we label him as. He has the speed to check mobile bigs and the strength to guard the bruisers. All we need is an offensively gifted big to pair with him and the frontline is set (assuming Bismack can be a difference maker on defense)

BB and LMa (a PF) would be awesome
BB and Brook Lopez (a C) would be nice too
Personally i think he would work well with a LMa . But not well at all with a Lopez. It all comes down to spreading the floor. SMACK doesn't have a jumper to spread the floor. That would be like Puting SMACK and K Brown on the floor at the same time . A big mess

Toocool
11-30-2011, 09:23 PM
Personally i think he would work well with a LMa . But not well at all with a Lopez. It all comes down to spreading the floor. SMACK doesn't have a jumper to spread the floor. That would be like Puting SMACK and K Brown on the floor at the same time . A big mess

Agreed. At least when we use K. Brown and Diaw, Diaw can knock down the midrange/3 which helps spread the floor. Kwame has to stay near the basket to be effective. At least if we use let's say TT and Smack, TT can knock down a 16+ foot jumper which helps.

dav7z
11-30-2011, 10:50 PM
Agreed. At least when we use K. Brown and Diaw, Diaw can knock down the midrange/3 which helps spread the floor. Kwame has to stay near the basket to be effective. At least if we use let's say TT and Smack, TT can knock down a 16+ foot jumper which helps.

TT might be a very good fit with SMACK . With those two we could be very good on the defencive side of the ball. If TT can knock down the 15 footer on a regular basis . Smack should be able to clean up a lot of boards. A very physical pair.

akaseinfeld
12-01-2011, 06:57 AM
It won't happen, but find some way to acquire Steph Curry. The one player that would instantly increase attendence in Charlotte. More than any UNC or Duke player could, Curry has almost a cult following in the Charlotte and you better believe people would come see him play.

dav7z
12-01-2011, 09:23 AM
It won't happen, but find some way to acquire Steph Curry. The one player that would instantly increase attendence in Charlotte. More than any UNC or Duke player could, Curry has almost a cult following in the Charlotte and you better believe people would come see him play.
Agreeded its more Curry fans at the game than Bobcat fans. To be such a average player Cassipi all so fills the arena with flags ever time he comes to Charlotte.

Chef
12-01-2011, 09:44 AM
Agreeded its more Curry fans at the game than Bobcat fans. To be such a average player Cassipi all so fills the arena with flags ever time he comes to Charlotte.

but would he fill it if he played 42 games here?

dav7z
12-01-2011, 09:56 AM
Not sure but i think so . The kid is loved hear , Cassipi would all so put a 1000 extra butts in the seats all so. Both would bring in big numbers.

bozzy
12-01-2011, 10:57 AM
The novelty of Curry would wear off quick if he were playing here every game. I doubt it would have any measurable impact. At the end of the day no one is going to watch a losing team no matter who is on it. The Bobcats tried to sign all the NC players in the world years ago. It did nothing for attendance.

spectre
12-01-2011, 12:10 PM
but would he fill it if he played 42 games here?

More importantly...could he protect us from the impending 2012 apocalypse?

Have to look at all the angles here.

ziggy
12-01-2011, 12:59 PM
Yes. The purity of Curry's jumper is more than enough to protect us from the apocalypse.

dav7z
12-01-2011, 02:01 PM
Im old and remember how the Hornets sold out ever game . Setting a record for the most consective sell outs. With those sell outs coming be for ZO, and LJ.
With S. Curry; people seem to have old time loyalty all so ? . It could be because his playing in Charlotte days. Or his dad ?. People loved his dad and he wasn't even starting at the time . He was a sixth man? Agreeded with ZIGGY on that jumper it's pure.

ChuckHayes69
12-01-2011, 09:05 PM
I really don't see any single player making much of an impact on season long attendance (let alone over a few years) unless it is a superstar, who in turn is making the team itself better which is the real way to become relevant. Curry won't do it, no unc/duke player would do it (unless say Barnes comes here and is a superstar, but the unc tie wouldn't be the reason). Hell, I don't think Chris Paul would do it (by himself at least). Put a contending team on the court and you're relevant. It's that simple.

skratch
12-02-2011, 02:22 PM
Kemba has to become a star & make espn highlights, for people who dont follow the bobcats im pretty sure kemba is the most talked about/anticipated person on the team. I know cats fans love hendo but hes not marketable and imo shouldnt be a starter but like everyone says we need to draft a star, maybe like anthony davis caliber, I wish tyrus thomas would show his true potential one day that would be nice. The only way for the bobcats to get relevent is to make some good free agent moves and draft picks, super stars arent coming here but some young players with high potential can/will if the moneys right

I wish everyone would stop thinkin cp3 & howard would come to charlotte, i never for one moment even believed in that story, Jordan can pay them all they want and still will not come, it really doesnt make sense for them to come, for one you'd have to get them at the same time, i highly doubt they both would be having "lets go to charlotte and make our own dream team with Jordan running things" on there mind they want win rings & form dream squads not jordans money or legacy besides who would be the third man to accompany them? dwight & cp3 in charlotte wouldnt be enough for miami like cp3, melo & amare would. Yes i know dallas won this year they and they just wanted it more then the heat but miami is still a dynasty in my eyes. Then you have to compare cities who wouldnt want to be in NYC, Miami or LA?(thats every man's dream) or even chicago.

dav7z
12-02-2011, 02:52 PM
Kemba has to become a star & make espn highlights, for people who dont follow the bobcats im pretty sure kemba is the most talked about/anticipated person on the team. I know cats fans love hendo but hes not marketable and imo shouldnt be a starter but like everyone says we need to draft a star, maybe like anthony davis caliber, I wish tyrus thomas would show his true potential one day that would be nice. The only way for the bobcats to get relevent is to make some good free agent moves and draft picks, super stars arent coming here but some young players with high potential can/will if the moneys right

I wish everyone would stop thinkin cp3 & howard would come to charlotte, i never for one moment even believed in that story, Jordan can pay them all they want and still will not come, it really doesnt make sense for them to come, for one you'd have to get them at the same time, i highly doubt they both would be having "lets go to charlotte and make our own dream team with Jordan running things" on there mind they want win rings & form dream squads not jordans money or legacy besides who would be the third man to accompany them? dwight & cp3 in charlotte wouldnt be enough for miami like cp3, melo & amare would. Yes i know dallas won this year they and they just wanted it more then the heat but miami is still a dynasty in my eyes. Then you have to compare cities who wouldnt want to be in NYC, Miami or LA?(thats every man's dream) or even chicago.
Skratch i disagree with a lot of what you saying , First is Walker has to be a star? . .I don't think he has to become a all star . Most on the site would be happy with him just playing a good solid point. I all so disagree about Hendo starting. Hes one of the top defencive guards in the league. And has a decent offencive game. Hes a glue guy in a starting line up.
If by luck we landed CP3 and D Howard with our fillers we would be better than than Melo and Amare and the Knicks and could compeate wit the Heat . We would kill them at CENTER, and POINT, Henderson slows WADE down for sure. Bosh showed last year he don't fit in well as a third option. So the King would have to carry them.. But the whole idea of stacked teams i hate.

adam187
12-02-2011, 04:20 PM
The problem is that you can have a solid, even great nucleus. And it won't matter one bit until you get a superstar.

You could have this starting unit

Steph Curry
Eric Gordon
Danny Granger
Serge Ibaka
DeMarcus Cousins


And still not win. All of those players are great secondary pieces, and an awesome nucleus. But without that superstar, they have just about no chance of winning. We need to draft and draft and drat until we get that superstar. After that, everything else falls into line much easier

Well, we would certainly be "relevant" with that team. And I dunno, we might be able to win with that team 4 years from now.

Perhaps the NBA should consider rule changes in the opposite direction of the way they've been going, de-emphasizing star players and promoting team play. But that probably won't happen, because they like the superstar branding for the league. Oh well.

SWedd523
12-02-2011, 06:33 PM
We'd be relevant as a good team, but not relevant as a perennial contender with a marketable star. They might sneak into a couple of conference finals and be a popular underdog team, but not one worth the money it would take to keep them together. Think the Grizzlies

Ghost Kat
12-02-2011, 08:07 PM
What can they do?.....Bring back the Hornets. Merge the Bobcats and the Hornets into one team. Pick and choose players from their rosters and make the rest fight to the death for the final spots

Hormel
12-03-2011, 08:58 PM
I'm Active Duty U.S Army, and I would say that 90% of the people I have met either
A) Didn't know Charlotte had a team
B) Thought the Hornets were still in Charlotte

SWedd523
12-03-2011, 10:22 PM
I'm Active Duty U.S Army, and I would say that 90% of the people I have met either
A) Didn't know Charlotte had a team
B) Thought the Hornets were still in Charlotte

If you don't mind my asking, what's your MOS?

Keetch
12-04-2011, 04:55 AM
If they can ever field a highly compelling team; they could then use that to better extend their marketing and broadcasting revenues thru North and South Carolina. Right now it appears feeble even in Charlotte.

Sik Infant
12-04-2011, 05:55 AM
I'm with Swedd on this, he is owning this thread as everything he's said is correct.

Respect in the L begins and ends with a superstar.

ziggy
12-04-2011, 07:16 AM
The Bobcats need their own star preferably with an ample amount of charisma in order to achieve relevancy. We need our own Blake Griffin, Kevin Durant, Hell even a Russell Westbrook.

Is Kemba that guy?

Here is sad note on the apathy the Bobcats have here in Charlotte. On my 25-30 minute drive home from work one day last week, I noticed 3 people that had on some old school Hornets apparel, but I saw ZERO people with any kind of Bobcats gear on.

SWedd523
12-04-2011, 10:32 AM
It's because the old school Hornets gear is SO sick. Hornets teal and purple looks really good together. And the mascot is awesome


Now on the other hand.... traffic cone orange and blue, Bobcats face... Ehhhhhhhh

Wolfpackbobcat
12-04-2011, 11:29 AM
Bobcats marketing department seriously has to improve. This is a North and South Carolina team. Doing more events/community service outside I-277 would be a good start. I liked the RBC center preseason idea. Shame it didn't happen. Maybe next year have preseason games at the RBC, Columbia, Charleston, Greenville (SC), Asheville, and at the Greensboro Coliseum.

SWedd523
12-04-2011, 11:55 AM
They came down to Columbia last season for a game. Pretty good crowd came out.

Slammzithome
12-04-2011, 12:08 PM
The RBC center idea was great. The triangle area easily has a million basketball fans waiting for the bobcats to make them notice them. However the best way to do that is by winning. The best way to do that is to find a star. If Kemba turns out to be a star that will definitely help the cause.

adam187
12-04-2011, 12:46 PM
It's because the old school Hornets gear is SO sick. Hornets teal and purple looks really good together. And the mascot is awesome


Now on the other hand.... traffic cone orange and blue, Bobcats face... Ehhhhhhhh

I cannot agree with this enough.

bes628
12-04-2011, 02:00 PM
It's because the old school Hornets gear is SO sick. Hornets teal and purple looks really good together. And the mascot is awesome


Now on the other hand.... traffic cone orange and blue, Bobcats face... Ehhhhhhhh


lol at traffic cone orange.

SWedd523
12-04-2011, 02:34 PM
I mean really though. I'm not a hat wearing kind of guy, but I would much rather wear:

http://hiphop.hypeeater.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/Charlotte-Hornets-NBA-Vintage-Deadstock-Snapback-Team-Colors-V2-1.jpg

than:

http://c-product.images.fansedge.com/51-12/51-12241-Y.jpg


They need to realize one of the greatest ways to get a following is to have your brand be "fashion". Look at how many people wear Yankees hats. Look at the Ice Cube Raiders.

Ghost Kat
12-04-2011, 08:00 PM
That hunter's safety vest orange is kinda painful on the eyes. Rufus looks like a cartoon character. We are stuck with the Bobcats but I really miss the Hornets franchise. The Hive, awesome name for the arena. Hugo was kool. The colors though bright didn't assault your vision. The court looked way better. I really wanted Jordan to use the lock out time to make some serious changes. So far....none

bes628
12-04-2011, 11:40 PM
I mean really though. I'm not a hat wearing kind of guy, but I would much rather wear:

http://hiphop.hypeeater.com/wp-content/uploads/HLIC/Charlotte-Hornets-NBA-Vintage-Deadstock-Snapback-Team-Colors-V2-1.jpg

than:

http://c-product.images.fansedge.com/51-12/51-12241-Y.jpg


They need to realize one of the greatest ways to get a following is to have your brand be "fashion". Look at how many people wear Yankees hats. Look at the Ice Cube Raiders.

I still got my original Hornets hat that Dell Curry signed for me as a kid. So awesome.

ND22
12-05-2011, 12:36 AM
I know kids who know nothing about the Charlotte Hornets rocking old school hats. They were/are a brand for sure.

That doesn't mean the Bobcats can't either though. Looking at the Bobcats hat, I feel if the colors were swapped with blue as the primary it would look a lot better. It will take a long time and there will need to be on the court success, but one day our blue and orange could be appealing.

Toocool
12-05-2011, 01:56 AM
Their mainly white uniform was far better than anything that the Bobcats wore in the past. The bright orange uniform was painful.

fallen xxi
12-06-2011, 05:59 PM
Harrison Barnes. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. We need Harrison Barnes. We aren't attracting a fly in free agency, we need Harrison Barnes. There's really no other option. With Kemba, Bismack, Tyrus, and being able to get Harrison Barnes, that's a damn good young core. He's a superstar, and we need to have 1 more awful, gut wrenching season to get there. Thank god this one's only 66 games.

anton273
12-06-2011, 06:58 PM
If you drove past my house in england you'll see a sticker on my car window of bobcats! I even got my girl to wear bobcats tshirts only coz the sizes in America are 3 sizes to big!

I always ball in my bobcats jersey ( Orlando when it's being washed ) don't hate me I jus like Howard!!

Im beig optimistic here, I think next years star we pick will/ has to draw the fans in and sell merchandise!! Harrison Barnes!!!!!

Chef
12-06-2011, 07:05 PM
Harrison Barnes. No ifs, ands, or buts about it. We need Harrison Barnes. We aren't attracting a fly in free agency, we need Harrison Barnes. There's really no other option. With Kemba, Bismack, Tyrus, and being able to get Harrison Barnes, that's a damn good young core. He's a superstar, and we need to have 1 more awful, gut wrenching season to get there. Thank god this one's only 66 games.

he is in the conversation with perry jones, andre drummond and davis from kentucky. but one of those four.

anton273
12-06-2011, 07:35 PM
I do not wanna see that monobrow in a Charlotte uniform

G Wuh Wuh Wuh Wallace
12-07-2011, 04:42 PM
Hey guys my friend is in school at UNCC and he writes some pretty good stuff for his own small blog. I thought his Bobcats season preview was pretty appropriate. Check it out.
http://shoutitfromtheroof.blogspot.com/2011/12/year-of-cat.html

docend24
12-09-2011, 04:34 PM
No love for Lamb? Uconn chemistry on Cats team...