Diaw Trades

[rsxnova]

Diaw will probably be moved by the March deadline. What do you think he could land?

If LAL does not land D12 i could see us moving him for their trade exception from Odom.

[dav7z]

Diaw will probably be moved by the March deadline. What do you think he could land?

If LAL does not land D12 i could see us moving him for their trade exception from Odom.

I don;t want another trade exception at all. Boris and DJ in the early season have played great . Both have good contracts . So far both have been having carer years. Boris playing center and getting boards like he has has added tons more value. He ses the floor and pases like a point . He can play five positions and hurts you at none . I can see him as a sixth man on a championship team. Im sure other teams are seeing that all so. Teams like the Clippers, Lakers, GS, Atlanta just to name a few could use him.

I can see DJ starting on a team looking to make noize in the playoffs. He would be perfect on the Heat , Atlanta would work well for him all so , Don't rule out Portland for him and or Boris,

Im sure the Grizz and one of those draft picks is on CHOs mind. Look for a DJ White trade all so . We long at p/f and White is being show cased. Im thinking TT is good to go by now.

[ohara831]

I would not be thrilled about moving him for the TE. He's also an expiring contract. If anything, I want the 2 First round picks they own - theirs and the Mavs. Boris would be very helpful to the Lakers and Kobe this year.

[Pepperz]

Whats the point of a TE when the player is an expiring to begin with?

[spectre]

The TE lasts a year. If you lose a player's contract but are still over the cap (or the equal to that players salary would put you over the cap) you can still use it in trade to land another player. It also has value to receiving teams as they can lose a player/salary with nothing coming back.

I'd probably do it for a TE and one of the 1sts.

[Proudiddy]

Trade Idea:

Diaw

for

Nothing.

I don't think anyone wants him. The LA deal makes sense, but don't see us coming out of that one better than we enter into it, although trading Boris would be addition by subtraction. If someone would take him for a 2nd rounder at this point, I'd take it.

Wonder how everyone feels about that Diaw for Calderon deal in hindsight now. At least Calderon would've had some trade value.

[spectre]

Trade Idea:

Diaw

for

Nothing.

I don't think anyone wants him. The LA deal makes sense, but don't see us coming out of that one better than we enter into it, although trading Boris would be addition by subtraction. If someone would take him for a 2nd rounder at this point, I'd take it.

Wonder how everyone feels about that Diaw for Calderon deal in hindsight now. At least Calderon would've had some trade value.

How would we be coming out worse in the LAL idea? IMO a TE & a late 1st is a pretty decent return for Boris.

I also don't agree about Caleron having trade value. Unless I'm mistaken he still has that trade kicker so he's north of 10 million per year...and he's still signed for another season after this one.

[Proudiddy]

How would we be coming out worse in the LAL idea? IMO a TE & a late 1st is a pretty decent return for Boris.

I also don't agree about Caleron having trade value. Unless I'm mistaken he still has that trade kicker so he's north of 10 million per year...and he's still signed for another season after this one.
My bad, I didn't actually look at the trade proposal aside from seeing it was Diaw to LA. I didn't look at the details. I meant if players were involved (picture Ammo and Shannon Brown for Radmo). If we got a late-first from anyone for Diaw, that would be a great deal.

And while Calderon's salary is slightly more, I still think he holds more trade value than Diaw right now. Then again, I hate Diaw, so I can't approach this objectively, lol.

[teej]

After the way Diaw's played lately, I don't see how he has any value. At all.

If we get anything for him, I will find Rich Cho and ask him for his three wishes.

[Chef]

p.r. campaign #2. of course it won't be as good as random fan is diop every game, but it will be a nice consolation prize.

trade diop to whomever for either tpe or expiring plus 1 million dollars. take the million and purchase $1 million dollars worth of prime lower bowl, club and courtside seats from season ticket holders or vacant seats. randomly contact people in the home market and offer the tickets free.

[CrazyCarl139]

If I'm Otis Smith (Orlando Magic GM), I would call Charlotte about Boris' availability. The Magic need another big man because Big Baby and Ryan Anderson are NOT back-up centers. Boris could give them some minutes there, but he also can give them a passer to create some offensive ball movement. Plus, he has an expiring contract.

[teej]

Well, Boris' trade value just went wayyyy down. Getting benched does wonders for other teams.

[Chef]

Well, Boris' trade value just went wayyyy down. Getting benched does wonders for other teams.

not necessarily, gm's don't make decisions based on whether he gets benched on a team that is going for a high lotto pick and wants to play its young players. gm's around the league know exactly who boris is and what are his strengths and weaknesses. now, if he were avg a trip dub like he started this season that could drive it up a little as it would be obvious he is gunning for a new contract, but i really don't think his value changes all that much. expiring/tpe and late first or second round pick is what we can expect.

[Chef]

here is an interesting one from real gm. i would do the trade at the end in a heart beat. i would then promise odom a trade to a contender before the deadline. i would flip him for another expiring, tpe or take on 1 extra year of salary for a 2012 first rounder. if i were taking on salary i might need two picks or a decent first rounder (lottery). effectively, it turns diaw into dom jones, 2 picks (at least 1 first), expiring.

post from real gm:
Bottom line is, we won't part with anyone unless you want Matrix or Big Wood. We won't take on salary, though. And we won't part with any pick at all. As Odom himself is closed to pure expiring with a team option at the end of the season, I don't think it's a big financial burden. I have no problem if the pick coming back is only a second pick.

In this way, we'll get enough playing time to Brendan Wright, Ian Mahinmi, Yi Jianlian and Sean Williams to hit the rotation. They've all shown enough promises to make some serious PT.

Something around the line should be enough. Diaw, Najera, 2012 2nd for Odom, Jones, 2012 2nd

Put all the ideas here.

[spectre]

https://twitter.com/#!/rick_bonnell/status/159046068573712384


@rick_bonnell (https://twitter.com/rick_bonnell) Rick Bonnell
Yes, Boris Diaw is being made available in trade. But Bobcats wouldn't take back a bad contract to make a deal. I wonder about Suns.



Shocker I know. The biggest line in there is that we won't take back a bad contract. Let's hope they stick with that one.

[CatMan72]

I would trade Diaw for a ham sandmich right now... he sucks.

Maybe the Knicks would be interested after the hurting he put on them (when he was interested).

[CatNation1]

I doubt anyone will give us anything thats not a bad contract in exchange for Diaw. I still think he will have to be packaged with Augustin to get something decent. If they don't wanna go that route prolly just let him expire

[spectre]

I thought this was a decent idea.

http://www.bobcatsbaseline.com/2012/trading-boris-diaw/



Charlotte gets: Xavier Henry (NOH) and Randy Foye (LAC)
Los Angeles gets: Boris Diaw (CLT) and Trevor Ariza (NOH)
New Orleans gets: Mo Williams (LAC)

[dav7z]

The Lakers need Diaw and DJ , just to be cotenders this year . Diaw off the beanch for Odom makes lots of sence, DJ would start over Fisher . They not taking on a bunch of salrey and we not either . Im thinking DJ and Diaw for Blake and LAs two first and trade exception works well for both teams . LA gets two expirings if they wish and become contenders again this year. Without much risk.
We take on two years of Blake , but i think he helps Kemba more than DJ could. The trade exception is dust again for us . But we have three first round picks in a very strong 2012 draft.
Thoughts i think it works for both teams .

[Tizzle]

The Lakers need Diaw and DJ , just to be cotenders this year . Diaw off the beanch for Odom makes lots of sence, DJ would start over Fisher . They not taking on a bunch of salrey and we not either . Im thinking DJ and Diaw for Blake and LAs two first and trade exception works well for both teams . LA gets two expirings if they wish and become contenders again this year. Without much risk.
We take on two years of Blake , but i think he helps Kemba more than DJ could. The trade exception is dust again for us . But we have three first round picks in a very strong 2012 draft.
Thoughts i think it works for both teams .

I actually would LOVE to keep DJ as our starting PG for a reasonable price and have Kemba come off the bench i.e. Jason Terry type....BUT if we have to trade DJ I really like the above mentioned trade idea. Not sure if the logistics work out but scoring two more first rounds and getting a solid mentor to Kemba would be enticing. Plus we might be able to turn those two late round picks into a mid to early first rounder. May just be a pipe dream but I like where your head is at Dav7z. I also think Diaw and DJ would be VERY helpful to the Lakers. Works for both teams.

"It may be short...but at least it's skinny!!!"

[JR4P]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2012/03/12/3093385/observations-bobcats-at-hornets.html


• It’s less than three full days until the Thursday 3 p.m. trade deadline and here’s what I’m hearing concerning the Bobcats:

The New Jersey Nets would like Boris Diaw’s expiring $9 million contract number, and they’d give up the future first-round pick the Houston Rockets owe them to accomplish that. The Bobcats would have to take players with financial obligations beyond this season.

I hear Jordan Farmar and Johan Petro would come to Charlotte. Would the Bobcats do that and lower their salary-cap flexibility? Hard to say.

[Plowright]

I don't mind farmar on that contract, he is a serviceable backup for Kemba. Not a massive Ptro fan... I wonder if theres anyway we could get Morrow and Farmar... salaries would work. Maybe if we sent second somewhere or something...

Or we could replcae Petro with Shawne Williams. He is an expiring

[ohara831]

Bringing in Farmar gives us a back up to Kemba and gives us total freedom to move DJA. And the Houston pick for getting rid of Diaw is enticing.

[ohara831]

Here is one for you to consider. Hornets are said to be willing to part with a 1st (most likely the unprotected Timberwolves pick) to part with Okafor. Could you get behind trading Diaw and Diop to NO for Okafor and the Timberwolves 1st? Pick will likely be late Lottery - in the 12-14 range. Diaw expires, and Okafor would cost us about an extra $6 mil in 2013 over Diop and then another year at $12 mil.. Is that money worth it to you to get another Lottery pick this Draft? Not sure if I could get behind that one or not. Much better pick than the Nets deal, but we would be taking on more salary. But there is no doubt Okafor can serve as a better backup Center for us than Diop. Biyombo, Mullens and Okafor give us 3 very serviceable Centers

[Chef]

Here is one for you to consider. Hornets are said to be willing to part with a 1st (most likely the unprotected Timberwolves pick) to part with Okafor. Could you get behind trading Diaw and Diop to NO for Okafor and the Timberwolves 1st? Pick will likely be late Lottery - in the 12-14 range. Diaw expires, and Okafor would cost us about an extra $6 mil in 2013 over Diop and then another year at $12 mil.. Is that money worth it to you to get another Lottery pick this Draft? Not sure if I could get behind that one or not. Much better pick than the Nets deal, but we would be taking on more salary. But there is no doubt Okafor can serve as a better backup Center for us than Diop. Biyombo, Mullens and Okafor give us 3 very serviceable Centers

it doesn't matter if it is worth it to us. it is whether it is worth it to MJ. also, minn pick is very likely to be outside of the lotto. they are going to go for the 8th spot, losing rubio doesn't make it easier but at the very worst it will likely be the 12-15 range. no way is that worth 16 million. their pick not minn would get it done though.

[WAM9]

That Minn pick could vary anywhere between a late lottery pick to a early 20's pick.

If I knew it would be a lottery pick, I would do this deal.

I have always liked Okafor and saying his name and Diop's in the same sentence is complete blasphamy. His main issue is his contract is just too big for his production.

Even with that being said, I would still pull the trigger on this deal.

[superb1]

I saw this earlier, I wanted to post something on it but feared getting cursed out because of his contract. But I think I would have not mind him coming back for the right deal. Maybe when his contract is up, re-sign him for what he should have gotten (since we grossly overpaid him)