Bismack not able to get out of contract

[The Prodigy]

Well, this blows

https://twitter.com/#!/SportandoBasket/status/147440075570028546

[DY_nasty]

Well, this blows

https://twitter.com/#!/SportandoBasket/status/147440075570028546Take it with a grain of salt.

His court date isn't even until the 19th. Also, this isn't Woj or Spears reporting it either.

[The Prodigy]

Take it with a grain of salt.

His court date isn't even until the 19th. Also, this isn't Woj or Spears reporting it either.

Hopefully they are wrong, but I wouldnt be surprised if its true.

[Plowright]

I think Bismack will play this year, he seems supremely confident. Maybe he knows something the rest of us. Lets just wait until the 19th an see

[spectre]

Take it with a grain of salt.

His court date isn't even until the 19th. Also, this isn't Woj or Spears reporting it either.

Nice catch.

Either way I think he's playing shortly after. Worst case we'll foot the 525k and Smack'll borrow the rest.

[TheBeagle]

This would be criminal (relatively speaking) if he can't play here this year. I mean, just in terms of filling up the roster we need him, not to mention the experience and PT he would get playing NBA minutes as opposed to Euro minutes. Got to make this happen, fellas.

[rsxnova]

Jordan can just sign him to a Jump man contract to offset the buyout if need be.

[ohara831]

Hopefully we can pay the $525,000 and he can borrow the rest to pay off the $2 mil they want.

[bozzy]

Jordan can just sign him to a Jump man contract to offset the buyout if need be.

The NBA will not allow Jordan to circumvent a player's contract like that.

[Scottley Crue]

This doesn't quite pass the smell test for me, especially considering the court date is the 19th. If his contract has a buyout in it and he (along with help from the Bobcats) pays it, then I don't see him not being let out of it. Could that tweet be talking about this report shortly after he was drafted? Basically saying that his Spanish team wasn't going to let him go without getting it's full buyout amount?

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/07/30/2491302/fiba-tells-bobcats-biyombo-isnt.html

It's clearly about getting the full buyout, not keeping Bismack in their uniform. I mean, Boris it tweeting pictures of Bismack with the Checkers' mascot at their game tonight. It's not like Biyombo is coming back.

http://yfrog.com/nw59224138j

[SirBobcat]

Let him stay over another year. Why put him in this situation? Keep our assets away and comeback in a day when we're competitive.

[superb1]

that would be the bright side if he can't get free to play.

[dnbman]

The NBA will not allow Jordan to circumvent a player's contract like that.

That's very interesting. How does that work out with Jordan having a brand? Surely they can't limit his clients too much, can they?

[rsxnova]

The NBA will not allow Jordan to circumvent a player's contract like that.

Would it really be circumventing a players contract to be a Jordan athlete?

[Proudiddy]

Don't know how reliable this is either but the guy who updates/runs 2k's rosters tweeted:


Ronnie2K Ronnie 2K 2K12
Bobcats rookie Bismack Biyombo's team in Spain, Fuenlabrada, will retain his rights & he will not be allowed to play for Bobcats this season
9 hours ago Favorite Retweet Reply

[Chef]

it's not the end of the world as long as he gets here next year. i was looking forward to seeing what we had with him though.

[bes628]

Well that sucks. Really hindering his development.

[tondi]

I don't understand. I was under the impression that he had a buyout but was going to court to try and get the buyout amount reduced or eliminated. At no time have I heard that he would not be able to use the buyout. The primary dispute has been for how much it would cost him, if anything, to leave. I'm confused.

[Toocool]

Thought there was a court hearing on the 19th?
Thought it would just mean that mediation failed and it's going to court...

[spectre]

I don't understand. I was under the impression that he had a buyout but was going to court to try and get the buyout amount reduced or eliminated. At no time have I heard that he would not be able to use the buyout. The primary dispute has been for how much it would cost him, if anything, to leave. I'm confused.

If this is true (which I'm not sure of at all) this wouldn't affect him buying out. Like Toocool says this is an attempt by Smack to get totally out of his contract with the Spanish club.

Didn't someone post a link a few days back saying Smack's buyout was like 1.5 million? That'd be less than 900k coming out of his own pocket. Seeing as how Smack has probably never had much money in his entire life I'm sure he'll be thrilled to come out with around 1.5 million net for this upcoming season.

Worst case I still think this is no big deal and he'll be playing soon.

[Plowright]

We already knew they wouldnt let him out of their contract. But Bismack is making a case against his team for breaching an agreement in the contract. If he wins that then it doesnt matter if the team decide to retain him as his contract will be fine. Wait for the 19th!

[bozzy]

Would it really be circumventing a players contract to be a Jordan athlete?

If done for purposes of circumventing the CBA it would. I'm sure the terms of Jordan owning a NBA team allow the NBA to keep a close watch.

[Proudiddy]

For everyone saying this story has no legs because there is a court date... Sorry, there isn't a court date and the Bobcats' streak of awesome draft luck continues:


The future of Bismack Biyombo is up in the air. The young player, picked by Charlotte Bobcats in the last NBA draft is taken hostage by Fuenlabrada who is asking €4M as buyout to let him leave for the States.

Fuenlabrada valued the player €4M: 1.2M as buyout, plus the federal rights until December 2014, plus a fine for having missed 4 games and 64 practices last season before ACB playoffs when Biyombo left to have some workouts in the States. The Spanish team is ready to negotiate a buyout to help Biyombo to leave but the NBA team are allowed to pay maximum $500.000 as buyout and the difference, in this case, should be paid by the young player.

FIBA denied yesterday to give to Biyombo the transfer while the Spanish court dismissed his request to break unilaterally his contract. The trial, scheduled for next Monday, won't be held.

This is depressing. He was my only hope at C this year.

[DY_nasty]

You got a link?

[Proudiddy]

oops, thought I put it on there, got it from hoopshype rumor section.

Here's the actual story:
http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/33444/bismack_biyombo_taken_hostage_by_fuenlabrada.html
And here is the final sentence of the story:

It is very unlikely that Bismack Biyombo will play in the NBA in the season 2011-12.

[DY_nasty]

oops, thought I put it on there, got it from hoopshype rumor section.

Here's the actual story:
http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/33444/bismack_biyombo_taken_hostage_by_fuenlabrada.html
And here is the final sentence of the story:
Thats basically the same outlet as the twitter feed from earlier. Its more in detail though. Oh well... I'll just hold out for Woj or something.

[Plowright]

*Sigh* You just have to love being a Bobcats fan

[Proudiddy]

Yeah, I thought it might be when I was reading it, but that's the first I've heard of those details and it sounds legit. Just a huge letdown. Why do these Euro teams think people give a sh*t about them outside of their countries? The NBA has an international audience. Let the players go... Smh...

[CatNation1]

if its only 900k it seems like it would be a pretty smart investment to pay it, considering its an entire year he would lose off his NBA career otherwise, and his average yearly salary will end up much much higher than 900k

[Scottley Crue]

It seems that his Spanish team is trying to get as much money from him as possible before he goes. He clearly has a buyout in his contract, so once he presents them with that amount along with whatever "fines" they deem necessary, he'll be able to play for the Bobcats. I don't blame him for trying to get out of as much of it as he can, but he'd be well advised to get a loan and pay his Spanish team. Since the contract he'll sign will certainly pay more than $10 million in total, I'd be willing to bet there's a bank or two within shouting distance of the arena that would gladly give him a loan.

[dav7z]

http://www.charlotteobserver.com/2011/12/16/2853283/biyombo-still-cant-practice-but.html
This in todays news makes it sound like they in negotatations

[rsxnova]

His buyout really isn't that bad. Rubio had to pay 1.4mil.

[SWedd523]

The ruling the court made was in response to an appeal by Bismack to have the contract unilaterally broken. They denied that request so now it's going to trial. If that trial doesn't end up in Bismack's favor then they'll just buyout his contract.

Chill out fellas, we still have some options to get him over.

[ohara831]

It will happen soon enough. Just a shame he is missing some valuable practice time with his teammates. But he will come out roaring like a tiger when he is cleared.

[CatNation1]

as soon as he gets clearance to play i expect a timely torn meniscus

[SWedd523]

is Cho bringing the Portland back luck with him?

[ziggy]

My Meniscus is suddenly getting a little achy. I wonder if I should get it checked out.

[Sik Infant]

The ruling the court made was in response to an appeal by Bismack to have the contract unilaterally broken. They denied that request so now it's going to trial. If that trial doesn't end up in Bismack's favor then they'll just buyout his contract.

Chill out fellas, we still have some options to get him over.

This..

I still think he'll come over.

[Sik Infant]

The NBA will not allow Jordan to circumvent a player's contract like that.


I don't see anything wrong if Brand Jordan signs him to something like a 5 year 15m dollar deal & front him 3m signing bonus or so for his buyout.

That fits within the realm of legality.

[docend24]

Yeah, I thought it might be when I was reading it, but that's the first I've heard of those details and it sounds legit. Just a huge letdown. Why do these Spain think people give a sh*t about them outside of their countries? The NBA has an international audience. Let the players go... Smh...

fixed and 10

[docend24]

My Meniscus is suddenly getting a little achy. I wonder if I should get it checked out.

You should have signed whatever the offer you had.

[SWedd523]

fixed and 10

anti-catala!

[CatNation1]

Rochinski said during the chat that Bismack was still sure the matter would be resolved and he would be playing shortly. Then again, could be something he said a week ago and Rochinski hasn't kept up with the recent news at all. who knows

just pay the friggin buyout!

[mrfargo]

http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/33444/bismack_biyombo_taken_hostage_by_fuenlabrada.html REALLY GEEZ</p>

[Toocool]

Damn, that really sucks.
Was hoping it would be settled, but without a court date it really looks like he'll be staying in Spain.
Disappointing =/

[Scottley Crue]

http://www.sportando.net/eng/europe/spain/33444/bismack_biyombo_taken_hostage_by_fuenlabrada.html REALLY GEEZ</p>

That appears to be the same report as before. He simply needs to pay the buyout and he's free to play here (unless there's some crazy law applied here). He's trying to pay as little as possible out of his own pocket, which is completely understandable. However, with this ruling that he can't nullify his contract and with it the buyout, he'd probably be better served by getting a loan and paying the difference between the $525,000 the Bobcats can contribute and the buyout his Spanish team is owed.

[enigmaboy89]

How long is his contract with this Spanish team?

[BBQNut]

not gonna worry till tomorrow...let's see what the court says. The Spanish team is just
playing the game, trying to get the most they can.

[H21T]

Agree with bbq this is just tactics to try and see how much of the buyout they can get. I just dont know what kind of situation financially Bismack is in. If NBA teams could do more I would understand.

[ammofan]

If Bismack is in fact leaving, I would fully expect us to sign another big. Without Bis I think we have 13 on the roster....should sign Humphries, cut Najera, sign T.Griffin. Then we're okay. If we just do nothing after losing Bismack, it's really bad.

[x2pacalypse]

The Spanish Basketball League: Where slavery happens.

[enigmaboy89]

If Bismack is in fact leaving, I would fully expect us to sign another big. Without Bis I think we have 13 on the roster....should sign Humphries, cut Najera, sign T.Griffin. Then we're okay. If we just do nothing after losing Bismack, it's really bad.

That would be awesome if they did that...

[ammofan]

That would be awesome if they did that...

....that's why i should be the GM.

[DY_nasty]

Humphries ain't coming cheap.

Also, I really wish we'd bring in young scrubs instead of old busted scrubs like Ely.

[Sik Infant]

....that's why i should be the GM.

Yes ammofan you would definitely be better than Rich Cho who is a top 5 GM in the league ;)

[Sik Infant]

Humphries ain't coming cheap.

Also, I really wish we'd bring in young scrubs instead of old busted scrubs like Ely.


What do you think the market value of hump would be DY??

[rsxnova]

Check out this little entry to his fantasy profile...

Biyombo's transition to the NBA is in serious danger of being put on hold for another year due to contentious buyout negotiations with the Spanish team, Fuenlabrada, that still has him under contract, Sportando reports.
Spin: Fuenlabrada wants Biyombo to pay the entire $4 million buyout his contract requires, and the Bobcats are only allowed to pay about $500,000 of that total, leaving Biyombo responsible for the remaining $3.5 million. Fuenlabrada has taken Biyombo's exodus personally, and they're trying to collect on everything they can from Biyombo. When he missed games and practices to attend workouts for the NBA draft, the team fined him. They want that money included in the buyout. We're not drafting him in any leagues until this situation gets resolved, and at this time, it's looking like the rookie might have to return to his team in Spain for the year.

[Toocool]

Check out this little entry to his fantasy profile...

Biyombo's transition to the NBA is in serious danger of being put on hold for another year due to contentious buyout negotiations with the Spanish team, Fuenlabrada, that still has him under contract, Sportando reports.
Spin: Fuenlabrada wants Biyombo to pay the entire $4 million buyout his contract requires, and the Bobcats are only allowed to pay about $500,000 of that total, leaving Biyombo responsible for the remaining $3.5 million. Fuenlabrada has taken Biyombo's exodus personally, and they're trying to collect on everything they can from Biyombo. When he missed games and practices to attend workouts for the NBA draft, the team fined him. They want that money included in the buyout. We're not drafting him in any leagues until this situation gets resolved, and at this time, it's looking like the rookie might have to return to his team in Spain for the year.

Talk about milking the cow for all it's worth...
And to think I thought the shops milked the Christmas cash cow, looks like nothing in comparison to the Spanish Basketball League's cow.

[Chef]

Talk about milking the cow for all it's worth...
And to think I thought the shops milked the Christmas cash cow, looks like nothing in comparison to the Spanish Basketball League's cow.

yeah but wouldn't you do the same thing if u were that team's owner?

[Toocool]

yeah but wouldn't you do the same thing if u were that team's owner?

Absolutely. You may all start calling me George Shinn right away.

[JefDav84]

bismack biyombo @bismackbiyombo0 16m Reply Retweeted Favorite · Open
Thanks God it's over, and I'm gonna play finally! Thanks to every one who help me in this process he wasn't easy for no one, thanks GOD!

[JefDav84]

Via Ramon Trecet, a Spanish reporter, Biyombo and Fuenlabrada have agreed to a buyout worth 1.2 million Euros. Reportedly, Michael Jordan took on the issue personally, paying for flights of Fuenlabrada's managers to meet in Charlotte and they agreed, so FIBA will release Biyombo to play in the NBA.

[SWedd523]

Time to close this one down!