If DJA were to be resigned/extended....

[Pepperz]

What would be the most you would give him to stay?

Personally I can see DJ as a really good off the bench player that provides that scoring punch when Kemba has to rest. If he is asking for starter money, then I would say trade his ass for future prospects and picks.

[Twan's Kin]

$6 million per year is fair for DJ. Augustin is greater than Mike Conley

[spectre]

$6 million per year is fair for DJ. Augustin is greater than Mike Conley

If that's the case...cya DJ!

[Pepperz]

I was thinking around the 4 mil mark. 5 mil if he shows alot of progress as a player.

[Chef]

how about no. if we were in a contending position in need of solid backup pg and spot starter than 4 mil is justified. we aren't. he isn't worth the cap space to us for what he would bring.

get his value up by keeping him a starter and trade him for the best offer.

[Pepperz]

how about no. if we were in a contending position in need of solid backup pg and spot starter than 4 mil is justified. we aren't. he isn't worth the cap space to us for what he would bring.

get his value up by keeping him a starter and trade him for the best offer.

What would you plan on trading him for? Either it is 4 mil to him or 4 mil somewhere else, neither help the cap space. The only thing in return you are going to get is a backup player. Lateral moves wont help. By keeping him, our Pg position is set for awhile which lets us just focus on the other positions.

[Chef]

What would you plan on trading him for? Either it is 4 mil to him or 4 mil somewhere else, neither help the cap space. The only thing in return you are going to get is a backup player. Lateral moves wont help. By keeping him, our Pg position is set for awhile which lets us just focus on the other positions.

he is a backup player. and 4 mil for multiple years does not interest me at this point. i would trade him and matty c for a 7 mil expiring at this point. but, i think he should start this year until we can move him for hopefully a better deal. i just don't think we should extend him.

[Pepperz]

he is a backup player. and 4 mil for multiple years does not interest me at this point. i would trade him and matty c for a 7 mil expiring at this point. but, i think he should start this year until we can move him for hopefully a better deal. i just don't think we should extend him.

Say we do that. Shed 7 mil but what do we do with it? We are not getting that superstar player. They are already set on where they want to go. We keep our current assets for a reasonable price cuz its not till 2013 summer when we are going to be big ballers in the free agency.

Current assets + top pick in 2012 + top free agent in 2013 = title contenders for years to come.

[murphman]

I'm hearing the NBA may push back the trade deadline into ealry March. By then it is possible that a playoff contending team is in dire need of a PG due to injury or other reasons. Bobcats may be in a position of getting a pick for him in the back half of the 1st round, which in this upcoming loaded draft would be decent.

[Plowright]

If we trade DJ i want a draft pick above 18. Even if we just get an expiring back i would see that as a success.

[Chef]

Say we do that. Shed 7 mil but what do we do with it? We are not getting that superstar player. They are already set on where they want to go. We keep our current assets for a reasonable price cuz its not till 2013 summer when we are going to be big ballers in the free agency.

Current assets + top pick in 2012 + top free agent in 2013 = title contenders for years to come.


it isn't about getting a FA. it is about not tying up cap space for what will be a reserve. we just aren't in the position to be doing that. staying as flexible as possible is what we should be doing. if we were a team like the thunder it would make sense to spend money on a backup because they are contending. so the original question was extending dj and i don't think it is a good idea if he is not going to be our starter going forward.

[ohara831]

DJA is far more valuable to us than just clearing cap space. He is a terrific back up PG, and if nothing else, a passable starter at PG. Trading him for cap space would be a horrible move. If nothing else, he will be valuable around the trade deadline to a team in the playoff hunt who will likely part with a 1st if it is expected to be in the range of #16 - #20. And in this year's draft, that would be equivilent to a late lottery pick in a normal draft. But I would also think he would be a very valuable asset to have for another 3 years if he resigned around $4 mil/yr. If we do start to turn the corner as a franchise with Kemba, Biyombo, Henderson, TT and whomever we draft in 2012, there is no question you have to have quality depth. And if nothing else, DJA absolutely provides that. The only way I see us blowing this is if we capitulate to trading him for just an expiring so as to create cap space.

[Pepperz]

it isn't about getting a FA. it is about not tying up cap space for what will be a reserve. we just aren't in the position to be doing that. staying as flexible as possible is what we should be doing. if we were a team like the thunder it would make sense to spend money on a backup because they are contending. so the original question was extending dj and i don't think it is a good idea if he is not going to be our starter going forward.

I understand where you are coming from but we still are going to have to spend 80% of the current salary. In order to win a title, you are going to need a team. Rather its contribution from a starter or back up, everybody needs to chip in some way. Look at what JJ did for the Mavs. He was a huge spark off the bench. So unless a trade we cant refuse comes up or he is asking for starter money (which Ill trade him for anybody that is not over priced and/or draft picks) we shouldnt just shed salary just to shed salary. This just allows us to have assets in place for when we do get our franchise player its a short transition to being competitive rather then get the franchise and spend years to build around him.

[spectre]

Is DJ a RFA next year? If we don't trade him before this season's deadline we stand the chance of the same thing happening with him that it did Felton...getting nothing.

Course I think Cho is a helluva lot smarter than that.

[BBQNut]

waaaaaaaay to early to think about this...we need to see Kemba against real competition.

[Chef]

DJA is far more valuable to us than just clearing cap space. He is a terrific back up PG, and if nothing else, a passable starter at PG. Trading him for cap space would be a horrible move. If nothing else, he will be valuable around the trade deadline to a team in the playoff hunt who will likely part with a 1st if it is expected to be in the range of #16 - #20. And in this year's draft, that would be equivilent to a late lottery pick in a normal draft. But I would also think he would be a very valuable asset to have for another 3 years if he resigned around $4 mil/yr. If we do start to turn the corner as a franchise with Kemba, Biyombo, Henderson, TT and whomever we draft in 2012, there is no question you have to have quality depth. And if nothing else, DJA absolutely provides that. The only way I see us blowing this is if we capitulate to trading him for just an expiring so as to create cap space.

agreed. i just don't see dj signing for 3 years if he knew he was going to be the backup pg. i think we need to trade him before the end of this year.

[Marvel]

Trading him for an expiring makes no sense. If you want to be a contender you have to pay for it. If you want to trade him just because you want to shed salary, see where that gets you....purgatory that's where.

If Kemba proves he is the better player this season, then we can move DJ to the bench and he can be that spark plug who provides secondary offense. Every team needs depth and DJ can provide that. In terms of salary, i'd say let the season play out then we can evaluate what he's worth.

[ballwhore]

4mil...mannnn please! not a chance

[Twan's Kin]

Ballwhore- what do you think is a fair contract for CLT to offer DJ ?

[Chef]

4mil...mannnn please! not a chance

exactly why we should trade him. he is either a properly paid starter or he isn't on the team. i think that is the way it will play out.

[ballwhore]

A fair contract will be something other than what the bobcats want to pay. 3 yrs 18mil to 21 mil hell would you accept anything less? Barrera did 4 years 20mil. Regardless of what people on here says he lacks 14 & 6 is just that and that's playing on the bobcats. Several teams will take a marker on him @ 6 mil plus not a doubt at all with those who know rather starting or coming off the bench. Charlotte won't be paying him though even if he kills it this year it's known.

[JGib23]

I think DJ is inline for between 4-6 million per year.

DJ's impact on the game is comparable to Kyle Lowery, Jarrett Jack, Luke Ridnour, JJ Barea and they all make between 4-6.

Raymond makes 7.5 in the last season of his deal but, I think he is overpaid and will will get between 5-6 million this offseason. I think Ray and DJ are pretty comparable with Ray being the better defender and DJ being the better shooter.

The real question is who needs a point guard and is also under the cap this next offseason. That will really determine what DJ ultimately gets..... DJ could very well be forced to just sign his QO like Nick Young had to do in Wash. And wait a year and try to cash in as un UFA.

[ohara831]

A fair contract will be something other than what the bobcats want to pay. 3 yrs 18mil to 21 mil hell would you accept anything less? Barrera did 4 years 20mil. Regardless of what people on here says he lacks 14 & 6 is just that and that's playing on the bobcats. Several teams will take a marker on him @ 6 mil plus not a doubt at all with those who know rather starting or coming off the bench. Charlotte won't be paying him though even if he kills it this year it's known.

Do you anticipate an extension as part of a sign and trade? Might be best for DJ to have the extension in hand prior to any trade. If so, are you hearing of anything in the talking stage or do you expect it closer to the trade deadline?

[ballwhore]

Possible but high unlikely on the Nick Young situation. These agents really drive a lot of these trades like you guys may or may not imagine. You have three big agencies with multiple players on every team constantly putting one piece in the place of another. We'll see how it shakes out soon enough.

[ballwhore]

Sign and trade is the preference a number has been thrown out there as well and it's a wait and see.

[BlockParty]

The reality that I think a lot here are forgetting is we just came out of a CBA negotiation that reduces the players piece of the pie by a little over 12% in total, more for the mediocre players. So comparing DJA to a similar PG that is currently making $4-6M per year means that a similar contract for similar talent will only bring between $3.5-5.2M. The superstar players will still get their same Max contracts (less 1 year in length)...Drose got 5yr/$94M today, which means the cut the mediocre players take (which includes everyone on the Bobcats roster) will likely be at least around 15% reduction in what they would've received under the old agreement.

I say DJA will be gone at or before the trade deadline, possibly for a backup center, maybe for some draft picks, maybe for another backup PG. The reality with DJA is he hasn't matured to the point that his feelings don't get hurt when things start going wrong for him. Last night he had his pocket picked in the middle of the court and within a minute of that turnover, he turned the ball over again on a lazy pass. He had his opportunity last season, he was given the keys to the car and Cho & MJ selecting Kemba with the our first pick was a clear sign of their future aspirations. Honestly DJA hasn't shown the professional maturity to be a consistent contributor off the bench since his rookie season.

The likelihood of him making it to our end of season roster stems more to do with the health of Kemba and the other players that get minutes at the PG spot. It's actually remotely possible Boris Diaw starts the season as our Center and finishes it as our backup PG to Kemba. At the end of the season, if DJA is still around, the Bobcats will move him on draft night (that's what Cho likes to do) or they will extend the qualifying offer to him for $4.385M which will make him a restricted free agent...my guess is, he'll be gone before Mardi Gras

Here is the link to the Bobcats Salaries http://hoopshype.com/salaries/charlotte.htm

[docend24]

DJ is pretty good off ball too with his 3pt shooting. He would fit well any team with ball dominant shooting guard like Lakers or Heat. Could be done in Charlotte too, but two undersized PGs would be a defensive liability.