Are we showcasing Boris and DJ?

[CatNation1]

Both these guys are in contract years, I doubt very much that MJ wants to give either of them big long term contracts. DJ was playin nice tonight no doubt, but its obvious the fanbase is not going to be content for long with Kemba sitting out the end of games and only getting 20 minutes etc. But DJ is still a nice young PG and Boris a large expiring putting up near triple double numbers. I think Cho can find us a nice deal for these guys either together or packaged separately.

[SWedd523]

I sure hope we are. With them playing like that, we might get a nice little trade out of them

[Mustachio]

LMAO. What the hell does Boris Diaw have to do to get a break? Dude has a damn near triple double, plays his ass off against one of the best teams in the league and the first topic is about how we are going to get rid of him.

[enigmaboy89]

LMAO. What the hell does Boris Diaw have to do to get a break? Dude has a damn near triple double, plays his ass off against one of the best teams in the league and the first topic is about how we are going to get rid of him.

I agree with you, Boris is doing well for the Bobcats - why not keep him? I will be mad if they let him go, his my fav player.

[CatNation1]

LMAO. What the hell does Boris Diaw have to do to get a break? Dude has a damn near triple double, plays his ass off against one of the best teams in the league and the first topic is about how we are going to get rid of him.

Yeah he's playing well but do you really want to see Boris Diaw coming into camp AFTER getting a long term contract? You have to sell high if you wanna make a profit.

[SWedd523]

LMAO. What the hell does Boris Diaw have to do to get a break? Dude has a damn near triple double, plays his ass off against one of the best teams in the league and the first topic is about how we are going to get rid of him.

He has no place on a rebuilding team, so why let him hit free agency? Trade him this year while he's playing great to get another 1st out of him

[ammofan]

I LOVE what Boris is doing out there but as Steve said he isn't part of the future of this team. Our core is Kemba-Hendo-Bismack and maybe even Mullens. You can throw Tyrus in there too because we gave him the long term deal.

I think we need to take a shot at acquiring Dwight Howard if MJ could possibly get him the resign. Seriously I would think the Bobcats would be as attractive a destination as NJ(or Brooklyn) especially with as promising as Kemba, Hendo and Bismack look now.

[SirBobcat]

I am about 90% sure both will be traded by the deadline. Diaw will be valuable to a contender and DJ is a valuable young asset. As far as Dwight goes, no way will he resign with Charlotte. We'd have to lure another big star beforw he'd consider.

[Toocool]

Trade him for 2 first rounders in this draft, possibly with DJ involved.
Trade with those 2 rounders upwards to a higher draft pick.
???
Profit

[GoBobs]

We should try and keep Diaw. He might not cost that much and he does a lot of things really well. Even a rebuilding team needs a few vets and Boris is only 28. His best years in the NBA could be his next four due to his style of play. If he has a good attitude and wants to stay with the team just keep him.

DJ is playing really well and while I would trade him for a good pick, I don't think we are desperate to move him. Teams have a much better chance of signing restricted free agents to reasonable contracts. Kemba isn't ready to do it all on his own and depth is always a plus due to the random nature of injuries. If we can't get a top 20 pick there is no reason to give up the leverage of our position.

[bes628]

Keep Boris Diaw. Dwight Howard aint coming. Dream on.

[superb1]

We should try and keep Diaw. He might not cost that much and he does a lot of things really well. Even a rebuilding team needs a few vets and Boris is only 28. His best years in the NBA could be his next four due to his style of play. If he has a good attitude and wants to stay with the team just keep him.

DJ is playing really well and while I would trade him for a good pick, I don't think we are desperate to move him. Teams have a much better chance of signing restricted free agents to reasonable contracts. Kemba isn't ready to do it all on his own and depth is always a plus due to the random nature of injuries. If we can't get a top 20 pick there is no reason to give up the leverage of our position.

I think that DJ and Boris are playing really well and we are not desperate to trade them right now. I believe we should hold on to DJ. Kemba still needs time. Boris is a enigma, Don't know if he is playing for contract or whether he was affected by Jax presence (like someone pointed out in another thread). Hold on a few.

[Chef]

diaw = lazy super talented contract year player. he won't fit in with a young team while he is on a new deal. we would be foolish to bring his frog ass back.

dj = looks like he is really coming around but he isn't the long term starting point for this team and he won't be happy signing an extension to be the back up.

diaw should fetch a mid to late first round pick if he keeps playing like this.

if dj keeps playing at this level he could be paired with either tyrus or mags and get us an expiring and a young or draft pick

diaw and dj together (assuming the play level keeps up) should get multiple firsts and expirings.

i prefer keeping them separate unless a really really good offer presents itself.

[cltblkhscoach]

I don't know guys, before the season I was with trading both these guys, but if Paul has these guys playing like this currently as constructed, maybe we should wait and see how this plays out. We've all been gloom and doom, but maybe we just aren't as bad as we think.

They're going to have to make a tough decision if we're in range of a playoff spot near the trade deadline....when is the deadline anyways?

[Keetch]

Watching Diaw thru the opener and then the 1st half of the Heat game I had to admit what the hell the guy's playing really well; and then it hit me - he's in his contract year. SMH

[polarcat]

Chef is spot on and wish he was in our Front Office....haha. Since Diaw has gotten here, he's been up and down like a roller coaster, and I personally want off before his contract is re-upped. Totally agree with the "sell high" comment, and that is what we need to do with this young rebuilding team. We are finally on the right path and with a few Cho moves, we will be a top-4 Eastern Conference team. Diaw has been playing lights out through 2 games, but this is what he does and I'd rather get something before his contract expires, because I doubt he is in our long-term plans once we add a few more pieces via trades, draft, and free agency. As for DJ, I love him, but unless he's cool with a 6th man role moving forward, I'd also try to get something for him. If Kemba keeps up his play, it's going to be hard keeping that explosive game on the bench.

[superb1]

Chef is spot on and wish he was in our Front Office....haha. Since Diaw has gotten here, he's been up and down like a roller coaster, and I personally want off before his contract is re-upped. Totally agree with the "sell high" comment, and that is what we need to do with this young rebuilding team. We are finally on the right path and with a few Cho moves, we will be a top-4 Eastern Conference team. Diaw has been playing lights out through 2 games, but this is what he does and I'd rather get something before his contract expires, because I doubt he is in our long-term plans once we add a few more pieces via trades, draft, and free agency. As for DJ, I love him, but unless he's cool with a 6th man role moving forward, I'd also try to get something for him. If Kemba keeps up his play, it's going to be hard keeping that explosive game on the bench.

yes, after reading Chef's post , I agree too. But with DJ, I love him and wish he would accept the 6th man role when Kemba explode. But til that fire happens keep DJ.

[BBQNut]

as much as I like looking ahead, and as fun as it is watching what coach has
done with these young players, it's still too early to tell. Boris has plenty of
time to check out this season, and how will DJ react to Kemba becoming a star?

[ohara831]

Ideally, I'd like to have both Kemba and DJ on this team. That gives us two really dynamic young PG's who are explosive. One will be on the court at all times. We need that. But I fear DJ will want out if he is not the starter, and we will lose him to free agency for nothing. Kemba is too good not to start in a year. So we are between a rock and a hard place. I think DJ gets traded, like it or not. But if he was happy splitting time evenly with Kemba, then I say resign him.

When Boris is on, he's a real asset. But he is so off and on again it is maddening. Contract year, and I dont expect him back. So trade him for the best deal possible.

[spectre]

I still maintain Jax was what was holding Boris back. An alpha like Jax demands the ball run mostly thru him and it just isn't in Boris to challenge that...so he becomes passive. Put in the position he's in right now (focal point) I'd warrant he will succeed much more often then not.

Since that's where we're at and this is Boris' ultimate situation we must cash in on it. Guys like him and Odom are rare and teams will pay a premium for the skillset.

DJ has made strides this offseason and he's reacting to Kemba much better than I thought. Sadly for him and us this is his contract year and I suspect he won't sign for less than 6 per starting out. We can't do that...which means if he stays he will ultimately take the QO and then we'd be looking at Felton Part Deux. I'm hoping Cho is a helluva lot smarter than that.

[JGib23]

I agree with the comments above about Jacks effect on Boris, if you remember before we traded for Jack, Boris was playing pretty similar to how he is now.

Jordan/Cho/Higgins needs to figure out what type of extension Boris is looking for and decide if we are willing to pay that price, if not.... We must flip him for pick to a contender... If we had never acquired TT and given him that extension, I would fully support bring Diaw back but, we can't tie our whole cap up in the PF position, and still develop Smack.

DJ is going to be a tough call, he's playing great and has really developed since Brown left. It all depends on what the per year cost will be. The great thing about Kemba's contract as the 9th pick is that's it's cheap enough that we could afford to give DJ a nice contact and keep both at a reasonable cost for 48 minutes of PG play. My issues is we need to find time to get each at least 30 minutes a night and that will be tough from a defensive standpoint. I also don't want to cut too much into Hendo's minutes.

These are both good problems to have.

[Proudiddy]

I really hope we're not getting rid of DJ, but it's so hard to figure out how to use both he and Kemba fairly. As far as Boris, it's great that he's playing like this so early, but it pisses me off... It's no coincidence that he is playing like this in a contract year, so to see him doing this now when the money is on the line but playing like a fat, non-chalant slob when it isn't is disgusting. So, I hope we can get something nice for Diaw but ideally I would like to hold onto DJ, I just don't know if it's possible.

[tondi]

I don't have anything against DJ but if he goes into the offseason unsigned it seems pretty unlikely that he comes back. Somebody out there will overpay and we will lose him for nothing. That means we will either have to move him for a pick/player or overpay to keep him which I don't think anyone would advocate doing. So we should be letting him do his thing and hopefully increase his value so we can move him when we have a chance. Of course, if he gives us a discount and is willing to stay for 4-5 mil a year then I wouldn't mind keeping him around.

Diaw has all the tools to be great but we have all watched him sleepwalk through too many seasons for me to be a fan of resigning him for big money. I wouldn't be comfortable with him coming back at any price, honestly. Let's just get rid of him the first chance we get and let whoever signs him next enjoy the next few years of minimal effort until his next contract year.

[GoBobs]

I think we are going to be in better position then you guys think with DJ. The question is what is the most another team is going to offer him. A lot of teams have a starting pg they feel pretty good about already. Maybe the Nets could make him a big offer if they lose Deron but they will be trying to resign Slowpez too. Perhaps the Raptors could make him a big offer. This might be a chance to get him resigned to a reasonable deal.

Diaw might be happy with Charlotte. Not everyone wants to move around all the time. Maybe we have really good paths for that thing he likes to ride, who knows. The best thing about him though is he can play so many positions and do so many different things on the court. If he wants 7-9 per I would try to keep him.

[Mr. 1020]

It's crazy, I honestly think that some of you guys just like seeing people get traded. If you look at the first two games, this team is playing far better than anyone expected and we don't even have the entire team together due to injuries. Plus, most of our team is very young, but there playing extremely well.

All this team needs is time together to gel (no one expects championship this year anyway) and we can potentially be one of the deepest well balanced teams in the league and have real chance to surprise some people.

I really like what I have seen from this team so far and it can only get better. Besides, if they don't get what you think they should get for Boris and DJ, then all you're gonna do is be mad. Enjoy the ride and let's see what's happens. The FO is in a good place and I'm confident they'll make the right moves when they see fit.

[CatNation1]

Boris owns a couple of the places in Epicentre doesnt he? Maybe he would re sign for a discount. But come on he comes into his contract year fat, he'll come into his first yr of a 4+ yr contract lookin like Jabba the Hutt. Whats funny is he plays year round too. He must eat so much food..

[ammofan]

Not that I am really wanting to deal Boris right now, but I was just messing around on the trade machine and came up with this deal: http://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bqbs49v

CHA IN: Dwight Howard, Hedo Turkoglu
ORL IN: Boris Diaw, DJ Augustin, Corey Maggette, Tyrus Thomas

We get rid of a few bad contracts and open up the starting spot for Kemba at PG. Hedo would start at SF(I know he has a bad contract but we would likely have to take him back in a trade for DH12).

LINEUP(By end of year possibly)

Kemba/Higgins or another FA PG(They might add Duhon to the deal)
Henderson/Williams/Carroll
Hedo/UPS
Bismack/DJ White/Eddy
Dwight/Mullens/Diop


That looks good to me.

[SWedd523]

Walking in to Selena Gomez and Julianne Hough ass naked on my bed looks good to me. Doesn't mean it'll happen.


Orlando would never trade Dwight for that package.

[ammofan]

Walking in to Selena Gomez and Julianne Hough ass naked on my bed looks good to me. Doesn't mean it'll happen.


Orlando would never trade Dwight for that package.

You never know. I heard they wanted established players to keep them relevant now. How relevant they will be with Boris, DJ, Tyrus and Corey...IDK. But ORL also has a dumbass who traded for Gilbert Arenas last year who is making the trades.

[SWedd523]

All the Lakers would have to do is say, "Hey we'll trade you either Gasol or Bynum plus whatever else to make it equal." And they'd have us beat

[Chef]

You never know. I heard they wanted established players to keep them relevant now. How relevant they will be with Boris, DJ, Tyrus and Corey...IDK. But ORL also has a dumbass who traded for Gilbert Arenas last year who is making the trades.

the key to that sentence is "relevant" nothing about boris, tyrus or mags is relevant.

[BBQNut]

do you remember when Howard came to Charlotte last year, and during a game,
laughingly said..."can you imagine me coming here?"

He thinks we are a joke. Howard can go anywhere he wants to go. We don't need to
waste time thinking he's coming here, not even if we traded our entire team and the next 5 years worth
of draft picks.

[Boomer]

Boris isn't part of our future plans but he is beneficial to our roster because of his versatility. Consequently, trade him only if you can get an asset for him. Otherwise, just let him come off the books at the end of the season.

[Sik Infant]

I would trade DJ after he starts around ten more games & puts up nice stats, hopefully we can get a pick+prospect(s)

I still like the OKC deal DJA for Maynor+Aldrich.

I think it'd be ok if we kept Diaw & his 9m expiring though if we can get a first round pick for him we have to do it.

[SWedd523]

That "idea" needs to die

[dav7z]

Both are as good as gone and should be if we are folowing CHOs rebuilding plan . Its no way the frunt office should even consider keeping Boris all season . I don't know his value but hes got to have some value. Its no way we resign him long term rebuilding like we are. That would rank up thair in stupid moves ,not moving Boris.
DJ isn't part of MJs long term plans either . Its four of five teams DJ would fit nicely into as a starting point . So we need decent value be for the deadline or hes another Felton . Another very stupid move.

[ND22]

Boris isn't part of our future plans but he is beneficial to our roster because of his versatility. Consequently, trade him only if you can get an asset for him. Otherwise, just let him come off the books at the end of the season.

This. If White, Mullens, and Tyrus turn out to have nice seasons the last thing I want is Doris Meow still on the roster taking their minutes next year.