DJ White

[Toocool]

I must give a shout-out to the Bearded One, DJ White.
Wouldn't be playing this many minutes or starting with TT injured, but I really like him.
Won't be an all-star or amazingly productive, or put up huge offensive numbers, but he's very solid. Does the little things like screening and rebounding.
Plays tough nosed defense, not overly awesome defensively but puts in effort and gets excited when he blocks someone (look at his celebration vs the Bucks when he blocked a poor chap). Will probably slip back into the rotation when TT comes back, but gee he really gives good solid minutes when he's in. I am also amused by his running style :biggrin:

Also would like to say, my man Hendo really scared me in the two pre-season games, playing like a pussy, thankfully he's played a whole lot better and I may not get shouted out as badly with my comments on him averaging 20 ppg.

[JohnnyTimmons]

I agree, especially about White, and specifically his preseason play. It seemed his rebounding and out backs were coming at will. Though as I have been watching reg season so far, I feel like I forget DJ2 is out there. Hes not bad or anything, just always seem to overlook the guy.
I can't put it on him specifically, but our low and post defense was looking horrendous wednesday in the 3rd and 4th. Felt like lebron and Bosh were driving at Will. Now i know Lebron is Lebron, but there had to be something we could do!

Off topic, but in final seconds of heat game, does anyone else think we should have swapped out our guys for larger/defense players? Not sure how this would have aorked but it seemed that all we needed to do was stop Wade and worry about scoring later. And also, were we in the penalty then? Could we have wrapped him up with say 6 seconds left and forced them to re-inbound, or at least earn shots on the line?

[cltblkhscoach]

Agree with you Johnny, should have been some defense for offense substitutions there. Either Biyombo or Diop should have been in on the last possession to come from the weakside and help Hendo on Wade's drive instead of either Diaw or DJ White. Especially knowing we were going to take a TO no matter what happened with that possession.

[spectre]

Someone needs to make a thread about Silas' rotations. They frigging suck.

I was very impressed with DJW's play, esp. in the 1st half. He was matched up against Bosh, but he played him about as well as could be expected considering the height disadvantage combined with Bosh's skill of the midrange, high shot he has.

He's not our ultimate PF, but he's certainly a strong 6th man.

[Scottley Crue]

Someone needs to make a thread about Silas' rotations. They frigging suck.

I'm not fond of them, either. I was disappointed in his decisions late in the game last night. I can understand not wanting Kemba and DJ in at the same time for long stretches because of defensive concerns, but those last two offensive possessions? I think Kemba needed to be in there. Wouldn't have hurt to have Mullens in either. Kemba is a clutch guy and he along with Mullens sparked the late run that kept it close. I was really baffled as to why at least Kemba wasn't out there, especially with 2.9 left...no worries about defense there.

As for DJW, I love the guy as a back-up 4. He's just one of those "right-place, right-time" type of players, you know?

[DY_nasty]

I'm not fond of them, either. I was disappointed in his decisions late in the game last night. I can understand not wanting Kemba and DJ in at the same time for long stretches because of defensive concerns, but those last two offensive possessions? I think Kemba needed to be in there. Wouldn't have hurt to have Mullens in either. Kemba is a clutch guy and he along with Mullens sparked the late run that kept it close. I was really baffled as to why at least Kemba wasn't out there, especially with 2.9 left...no worries about defense there.

As for DJW, I love the guy as a back-up 4. He's just one of those "right-place, right-time" type of players, you know?Kemba, as good as he is, hasn't been the most clutch player for the Bobcats for the past two years and happens to play the same position as the guy who is. DJ has iced plenty of games... I like Kemba, I really do, but lets at least wait for the guy to earn the spot before crowning him the new prince of Charlotte.

As for DJW, Silas playing his a center and guys giving him all the responsibilities of a defensive anchor during the fourth was doomed from the start.

I think we'll gradually start seeing more Biyombo/Mullens frontcourts as the season progresses. Each of those guys has improved in every game so far.

[Twan's Kin]

Do y'all think that DJW should get more minutes than Biyombo over the next 10 games?

[ND22]

Do y'all think that DJW should get more minutes than Biyombo over the next 10 games?

Yeah, because Biyombo needs to learn to play solid on defense. He's being disruptive, but he's jumping on every pump fake and seems a little out of control. Its clear he has that defensive monster potential about him, but until he learns to control himself White is a better option.

[spectre]

Not really "more"...I just want Smack to consistently get minutes. Somewhere in the 15-20 range.

[Sik Infant]

I'm a DJ White fan, very good roleplayer & I hope we lock him up longterm on a reasonable contract, I would have no problem if we started DJW over Tyrus when Tyrus comes back.

[superb1]

good game for him last night

[enigmaboy89]

So far DJ White has been a pretty good replacement for Tyrus Thomas. Would not mind keeping him a starter for a while.

[ziggy]

DJ White is making Tyrus irrelevant.

When TT gets healthy is he likely to give us any more than DJ?

Doubtful.

[SJackson1]

been impressed with him so far in his career with the Bobcats especially his rebounding

[dav7z]

DJ White is making Tyrus irrelevant.

When TT gets healthy is he likely to give us any more than DJ?

Doubtful.

White has been very solid and i doubt TT gives much more than White at best . Higgins last night looked as good if not better than the Hammer this kid needs a little more burn too .Neither D J or Walker has been getting us into sets well at all . They look really bad on offence. And Salis and his rotations can't be any worse.

[Toocool]

Silas has said that White will start over TT when he comes back.
Just like Kemba pushing DJ, TT pushing for his starting role again can do nothing but help us improve.

[Chef]

DJ White is making Tyrus irrelevant.

When TT gets healthy is he likely to give us any more than DJ?

Doubtful.

nothing to worry about zig not like we gave tyrus a super ridiculous contract and gave up a #1 to get him. oh wait.

[stun704]

DJ White is making Tyrus irrelevant.

When TT gets healthy is he likely to give us any more than DJ?

Doubtful.
how about the ability to defend, block, and rebound the basketball

[QC Thundercats]

To me, what I see in his game and hope for in a best case scenario is our version of Udonis Haslem - a solid, rugged, role playing power forward who can hit the midrange jumper consistently out to 20 feet, rebound solidly, and just scraps and hustles to the best of his ability. They both seem to have that quiet confidence in them and never complain about their roles, and while they won't ever wow you, they never will hurt you either, and end up putting up a solid line night after night.

Haslem was never a star, but his energy and fundamentals have been instrumental to the heat's successes through each iteration of the team, good or bad - he was always able to find his role or niche, whether he was a starter or bench player.

If DJ could be that for us - ideally a 6th or 7th man, but a starter in a pinch if needed - who could get his 10-12 points, 6-7 rebounds, a couple blocks, that would be perfect for this team going forward. He's young and can grow with our core, and probably will never command a ton of money, so I'd hope he could be our solid backup PF for the next several years.

[Sik Infant]

QC you are right!!

Haslem is a great comparison for DJ White.

I'm glad DJ will remain starting.

[dav7z]

So if TT don't start ? We either need to trade him this season . Who would want that contract? Or cut him early next season to help with the cap. One thing for sure we can't pay that kind of green for a back up role player?

[ND22]

White has played well, but his upside is no where near Thomas's. White will start because he's playing well, but in a best case scenario he's a guy that comes off the bench. Haslem is a great comparison for him btw.

Thomas hasn't even played yet and some of you are ruling him out. If this is the season to find out what our players are made of, can we at least give him a chance?

[WAM9]

White has played well, but his upside is no where near Thomas's. White will start because he's playing well, but in a best case scenario he's a guy that comes off the bench. Haslem is a great comparison for him btw.

Thomas hasn't even played yet and some of you are ruling him out. If this is the season to find out what our players are made of, can we at least give him a chance?

^^^^^ This!

Let's let Tyrus play a few games before we decide he can play or not.

White is playing great but his potential isn't as high as Thomas. I would love for DJW to continue playing like this though and turning into a top 7-8 rotation guy for us going forward through the rebuild. I would like to think the same could happen with DJA but who knows. It sure would be nice to think we have 5 of our future top 8 rotation on the roster already.

The Haslem comparison does seem like a good one.

And remember, this is the time to see what Tyrus can do. If he can be our starting 4, that is great. If not, we can deal him or use the amnesty on him before next season (or whenever cap space is needed).

[dav7z]

^^^^^ This!

Let's let Tyrus play a few games before we decide he can play or not.

White is playing great but his potential isn't as high as Thomas. I would love for DJW to continue playing like this though and turning into a top 7-8 rotation guy for us going forward through the rebuild. I would like to think the same could happen with DJA but who knows. It sure would be nice to think we have 5 of our future top 8 rotation on the roster already.

The Haslem comparison does seem like a good one.

And remember, this is the time to see what Tyrus can do. If he can be our starting 4, that is great. If not, we can deal him or use the amnesty on him before next season (or whenever cap space is needed).

Agreeded with both post and Haslem is a very good comparison. Only other thing im saying is if TT doesn't get starting burn this season . We need to move him one way or another. That contract is way to big for a off the beanch role player.

[Chef]

White has played well, but his upside is no where near Thomas's. White will start because he's playing well, but in a best case scenario he's a guy that comes off the bench. Haslem is a great comparison for him btw.

Thomas hasn't even played yet and some of you are ruling him out. If this is the season to find out what our players are made of, can we at least give him a chance?

he has been in the league FOR 6 FREAKIN YEARS. we know what he is. an injury prone, head case who will never realize his god given potential.

[superb1]

Seems everyone makes a great argument, but like Coach said TT will have to prove himself. We know now we have a great role player in DJ who can step in a start at any point. But it is TT time to swim or sink. Nothing holding him back. If he can't prove he is worth the contract, then we got a dilemma that needs to be handled.

[Plowright]

I have a very interesting article on the way, sent it to Ziggy about an hour ago. It addresses the issue you guys are debating. Make sure you give it a read, i reckon some people will think im being totally unfair but o well....

[cyphermonk]

Seems everyone makes a great argument, but like Coach said TT will have to prove himself. We know now we have a great role player in DJ who can step in a start at any point. But it is TT time to swim or sink. Nothing holding him back. If he can't prove he is worth the contract, then we got a dilemma that needs to be handled.

Agree with this completely. It's time for Tyrus to show something. DJ has shown he can be servicable. And given our tragectory, we will have a top 5 picks and there are several really good big men in this draft. If Tyrus doesn't step up and make a place for himself, he may be the odd man out shortly.

[Plowright]

http://bobcatsplanet.com/wp/the-bearded-one i am sorry DJ but i dont think you should start. Have a vote on what you guys think!

[adam187]

i think tyrus is better individually than dj white, but i think the team seems to do better with dj white in instead of tyrus. well, minus all the losing we've been doing lately, but yeah.

[teej]

Udonis Haslem comp is a good one, I think a Nick Collison one is appropriate too. That's probably why he never played in OKC, since he was the same guy just not developed. I love watching him play, he works his ass off, and doesn't try to do stupid stuff. I just wish he'd work more on his post game.

He and Mullens obviously have a good chemistry, so I'd try to play them together as much as possible, whether that's starting or third unit, I don't care and they probably don't either.

Also, Rasheed Wallace didn't blossom as a team player for many years, and Tyrus is as close to Sheed as you'll get. Let's give it a little time, gents.

[adam187]

Also, Rasheed Wallace didn't blossom as a team player for many years, and Tyrus is as close to Sheed as you'll get. Let's give it a little time, gents.

According to the announcers on my NBA 2k10 game which I recently purchased, Rasheed has amazing BBall IQ and is constantly cited as a wonderful teammate by other players, he's just kinda lazy, which isn't how I would describe T-Time. They could be talking about an older, more mature Sheed though. Either way you need to take this up with Kevin Harlan and Clark Kellogg ASAP.