View Full Version : Opinion on Corey Maggette
enigmaboy89
12-29-2011, 01:07 PM
I had high hopes for Corey Maggette when the Bobcats acquired him, Silas even said that he would be a double digit scorer for the team. In 2 games so far he has not been impressive at all, not worth losing Stephen Jackson at all.
What do you all think?
marino13882
12-29-2011, 01:10 PM
I think Bad Porn had a tough challenge yesterday guarding Lebron. I think also it is only game 2, why make knee jerk reactions in game 2? You saw what Stephen Jackson did against us on Monday.
Dcarnys
12-29-2011, 01:13 PM
The jury's still out on Maggette. Its way to early to tell, let me see some more "performances" like his and we'll call it a bad trade.
i have been trying to find a way to get him to the celtics on trade checker. their cap is so tight that we can't do it unless the move jermaine oneil which they can't as he is their only center. unless we agreed to waive him and they could re-pick him up. they could use mags as a fill in for pierce and then a scoring anchor for their second unit. maybe pick up a first for our troubles.
point is, i would move him as fast as humanly possible. he is a disease to a young basketball player and i don't want him around any of our young guys.
Proudiddy
12-29-2011, 01:15 PM
Maggs gets to the line, doesn't have a bad repuation with refs or draw unnecessary techs, and he isn't a ball stopper/hog. For these reasons alone, he was a great acquisition. He doesn't have to get 20+ ppg, he's fine as-is.
Demon DeaCat
12-29-2011, 01:21 PM
I don't think it really matters. Neither Maggette nor Jack were a part of our long term plans. The swap was all about getting the 9th pick so we could take Biyombo. His offensive production hasn't been what we thought it might be through 2 games but I'm sure that'll come. Plus, with the emergence of Henderson and the way DJ, Boris and Kemba are playing, not to mention TT when he comes back, we don't need 20 ppg from Maggette anyway.
I will take Maggette over Jack any day of the week and twice on Sunday.
While it is true he isn't part of our long term plans, I think the trade was an amazing part of our rebuilding process.
All the players and coaches have said that Maggette has been tremendous in the locker room and at practice. He has evidently been working very hard and with a great attitude. To be upset about him means you were expecting something different from what he is. What were you guys expecting out of him?
DY_nasty
12-29-2011, 02:19 PM
Maggette is good for two reasons
1) He isn't Jack
2) He's so bad that he forces our young players to grow up and learn how to score on their own. He's the worst #1 option in the entire league.
He's been bad for the past two years. He's lost his first step and last night's 4th quarter shows that he's just as mentally fragile as ever. One of the final possessions, after he just went 0/2 on the previous trips, DJ didn't call his number and he just stood in the paint with the sad clown face. Still though, its better than Jack just bullying the ball, taking 8 jab steps, then launching a 5 pointer.
Gerald is showing he can pick up the slack a bit, let him do it until it becomes habit.
Maggette isn't our first option.
DJ and Hendo both have more shot attempts and he is 5th on our team as far as scoring goes.
I know what Silas said when we got him but anyone watching the games can see that he isn't our first option at all.
GoBobs
12-29-2011, 04:09 PM
he is just out of shape. Maggs is getting by his guy to get an open look and just not finishing anything. He didn't play at all during camp and it shows.
Boomer
12-29-2011, 05:01 PM
I've actually been pleasantly surprised with Maggette's play thus far. I think yall that expected more have never watched him in the past...I've especially liked his encouragement to our young guys.
here is my best attempt at unloading mags. it relies on the celts going for it this year (which i think they should do in this case particularly since they are only taking on 10mil for one extra year). the deal would probably have to include a 2nd (but would do a heavily protected 1st if nec) to washington and/or cash considerations. oneal would be waived and resigned by bos for the minimum (shady, but hey it happens).
http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=bstchym
char out: mags 2y/10m
char in: dooling 1y/2.2m
was out: turiaf 1y/4.6, ndiaye 473k
was in: oneal 1y/6.2, wilcox 1y/3m, steimsma 762k
bos in: turiaf, mags, ndiaye
or if washington isn't crazy about paying and waving oneal, we do it with boston paying 2 mil (or if they really pressed hard a 2nd and no money).
Zoolander
12-29-2011, 06:35 PM
He's taking too many outside shots. His game is driving to the basket, getting fouled and getting to the FT line. I agree with the out of shape comment. There were times when he was with the Clippers when he was outright unstoppable. Don't know now tho.....
DY_nasty
12-29-2011, 07:20 PM
Maggette isn't our first option.
DJ and Hendo both have more shot attempts and he is 5th on our team as far as scoring goes.
I know what Silas said when we got him but anyone watching the games can see that he isn't our first option at all.You know why he has few shot attempts? Because he spends all of his time on the bench in foul trouble.
Make no mistake, he was brought in to be the #1 scoring option for Charlotte and everyone from the FO to the coaching staff has echoed the same sentiments.
He is the worst #1 option in the league, and I'm glad to have him lead our tank boat
TheBeagle
12-29-2011, 08:55 PM
As my title suggests, I'm not the biggest Mag fan...
That said, I'm surprised by how much more of a team player he seems than how I thought he'd be. He seems to be engaged with his teammates and be an active participant (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mek) in communication.
Ultimately, he served his greatest purpose by freeing us of Jack and netting us Biz....what he does on the court matters very little in comparison.
As my title suggests, I'm not the biggest Mag fan...
That said, I'm surprised by how much more of a team player he seems than how I thought he'd be. He seems to be engaged with his teammates and be an active participant (yeah, I'm looking at you, Mek) in communication.
Ultimately, he served his greatest purpose by freeing us of Jack and netting us Biz....what he does on the court matters very little in comparison.
team guy in the locker room and in the huddle is a very different matter than a huge black hole on offense. he is a ball stopper and ultimately this leads to guys feeling like "i am getting mine" which i do not want our young guys to develop.
team guy in the locker room and in the huddle is a very different matter than a huge black hole on offense. he is a ball stopper and ultimately this leads to guys feeling like "i am getting mine" which i do not want our young guys to develop.
You have to admit though, his ball hogging isn't anywhere close to Jack's.
I think he'll get better as the season goes along. Some of those shots will start falling, but I am with those who think he needs to drive more. He's a good free throw shooter, plus he could drive a kick to the guys who are making outside shots.
cltblkhscoach
12-30-2011, 09:20 AM
I think he'll be fine, he showed in that second preseason game against ATL what he's capable of. The thing in the first two games is we haven't needed him, and I think that's more of a credit to guys like DJ, Gerald, and Boris than a slight on Maggette. I'd expect tonight against Orlando they run some stuff for him early to get him going, we haven't run a lot of things for him early in games as of yet.
He has been a leader and a mentor so far, and I think he finally gets it. He's never been asked to do either one of those things so when guys get leadership placed on them they become a lot different.
Toocool
12-30-2011, 10:14 AM
Thought he did fine, did a good job of defending Lebron (as well as anyone could really).
Don't really understand where all this hate is coming from.
Yes his shot hasn't been falling as much, but he's also given a strong leadership presence and being a mentor and I think a lot of the younger guys look up to him.
Kemba himself has stated that Maggs texted him saying, whenever you need to talk or w.e, you know where to find me.
That's great leadership.
Plus, I much rather have Maggs than Stack Jack.
He's an okay shooter, but at least he doesn't chuck up 25 shots a night like Jack and make 4 of em, and actually plays defense even when he thinks he gets fouled.
Plus we got him for Biz, and hopefully in 3-4 years we'll be like Maggs was a champion for getting us Biz.
Won't jump on the Magg hate bandwagon, especially as it's only 2 games in.
Plus, I much rather have Maggs than Stack Jack.
i choose option C, neither. but if I had to choose I absolutely agree with you.
shot falling has nothing to do with it, he is a ball stopper. always has been, always will be. he gets his at the expense of the others offense.
with that said he is the perfect 2nd unit scoring guy. he just needs to be on a deeper team.
Toocool
12-30-2011, 11:38 AM
i choose option C, neither. but if I had to choose I absolutely agree with you.
shot falling has nothing to do with it, he is a ball stopper. always has been, always will be. he gets his at the expense of the others offense.
with that said he is the perfect 2nd unit scoring guy. he just needs to be on a deeper team.
What would you call Jack if Maggs is a ball stopper?
Just curious ^^
spectre
12-30-2011, 11:56 AM
What would you call Jack if Maggs is a ball stopper?
Just curious ^^
A ball stopper with flair!
Jack did like to pass more than Bad Porn, but Lord I'll never forget that "awesome" jab step of his.
Scottley Crue
12-30-2011, 01:01 PM
A ball stopper with flair!
Jack did like to pass more than Bad Porn, but Lord I'll never forget that "awesome" jab step of his.
Do you think that jab step of his was like a hypnotist swinging a watch in front of their target? By the 10th or 11th jab step, Jack had lulled his defender into a trance and then could get by them? In hindsight, this is a brilliant move!
In regards to Maggs, though, if I'm going to have a ball stopper on the team, I'd rather have one that isn't a technical foul waiting to happen. It does appear he's taken the leadership role seriously and genuinely wants to help the younger guys. I don't think that can be overlooked.
What would you call Jack if Maggs is a ball stopper?
Just curious ^^
a catastrophe. if i were a coach and he was on my roster it would be me or him. hell, i was mad just watching him on my blurry internet feed.
SWedd523
12-30-2011, 02:30 PM
Maggs is doing exactly what he was brought here to do. Try hard but suck anyway. They don't call him the tank captain for no reason
anton273
12-30-2011, 02:45 PM
Id rather him miss all of his shots, get blocked and have it shown as the top play of the night then him score a game winning shot! He is just here because we didnt want jax here and he knows it
SWedd523
12-30-2011, 03:10 PM
Id rather him miss all of his shots, get blocked and have it shown as the top play of the night then him score a game winning shot! He is just here because we didnt want jax here and he knows it
He's here because we wanted Bismack.
adam187
12-30-2011, 06:25 PM
i've liked what i've seen from maggette, even if he hasn't been lighting it up. seems to be a good presence for the team and i think that's the most important thing.
Ghost Kat
12-31-2011, 10:56 AM
If Maggette is suppose to be our go to guy, He has failed. We failed thinking he was a go to guy. I've never been a fan of Maggy. I forgot he was still in the league till we signed him.
dnbman
12-31-2011, 06:28 PM
I don't think we acquired Mags to be our "go-to guy." He allowed the trade to happen to get us Smack and unloaded a questionable presence in the process. He's simply "go-to" by default. I think Kemba will over take him in that role by season's end.
Ghost Kat
12-31-2011, 06:54 PM
I don't think we acquired Mags to be our "go-to guy." He allowed the trade to happen to get us Smack and unloaded a questionable presence in the process. He's simply "go-to" by default. I think Kemba will over take him in that role by season's end.
All of these words are so true I want them added to the Bible.
bes628
01-01-2012, 06:22 PM
About as good as a sack of garbage.
CatNation1
01-01-2012, 09:39 PM
i was lolin at the start of the game where their strategy was to attack maggette on offense and let him shoot wide open jumpers on defense. gave them a 10-0 or whatever start and we quit.
Sik Infant
01-01-2012, 09:52 PM
I don't mind the Maggette trade because without it we don't get Biyombo.
Honestly though we were much better when UPS was in instead of Bad Porn.
Maggette is giving a lot of effort on D though so I can't fault him for that.
Make no mistake, he was brought in to be the #1 scoring option for Charlotte and everyone from the FO to the coaching staff has echoed the same sentiments.
I know how the coaches spun it but we all know that Maggette wasn't brought into the franchise for anything other than 1 reason and that is to flip Capt Jack into Biyombo. We had to take back some salary and Maggette ended up being it.
As I stated earlier, I would much rather have Maggette than Jack at this point. If nothing more than the fact he complains way less:)
dav7z
01-02-2012, 07:35 PM
I don't mind the Maggette trade because without it we don't get Biyombo.
Honestly though we were much better when UPS was in instead of Bad Porn.
Maggette is giving a lot of effort on D though so I can't fault him for that.
I agree UPS gives you much more as far as hussle and rebounding . He all so seems to be gaining some confidence. Maggs might be better off the beanch
Ghost Kat
01-02-2012, 08:15 PM
Still dont like him
QC Thundercats
01-03-2012, 01:49 AM
I'm indifferent to him. I always just saw him as a guy that barreled into the lane to get 10 free throws, and just hit 4-5 shots for his 20 points.
Besides his taking pay to play at dook, he actually never seemed to be a bad character guy, or a me-first attention whore. And he seems shockingly competent on defense, which I never expected out of him.
But as others have said, his purpose was to get the Biz, get rid of Jack, help us get a better draft pick, create cap space when his contract is done, teach everyone his Billy Blanks workout to stay in the same rock solid shape hes been in for his whole life, and hopefully teach the young guns how to draw a foul at the NBA level, which is definitely a skill that can and needs to be learned.
Besides his taking pay to play at dook...
Maggette never took money to play at Duke. That is a complete message board rumor that has been investigated over and over and has no truth to it what so ever.
Maggette did take money from a summer league AAU coach prior to playing for Duke. There was talk that that might have made him ineligible for Duke but that never happened. The same coach paid multiple players over the years to play for his AAU team and they ended up playing for schools all over the country. There was no connection to Duke. I know quite a few AAU players that have been paid over the years. It may not be ok according to NCAA rules but it certainly doesn't qualify him as a bad guy either.
Besides his taking pay to play at dook, he actually never seemed to be a bad character guy, or a me-first attention whore. And he seems shockingly competent on defense, which I never expected out of him.
B
being paid under the table to play at school which makes millions off of your name and efforts while justifying it with a meaningless scholarship is akin to a third world labor agreement is a "sin" i can overlook and forgive a teenager from committing.
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