View Full Version : Time to Cash in on Hendo?
spectre
01-12-2012, 02:09 PM
Regardless of what BW said (and I am giving some weight to it) I don't think he's the best mate for either of our PGs, esp. considering that we most likely won't keep Boris after this season. We need a SG with handles and passing ability...neither of which are in Hendo's repertoire.
A guy like Roy pre-injury would obviously be great but those guys don't grow on trees. I thought about OJ Mayo but the contract vs. his production concerns me greatly. His QO next year is in the 7 million range.
Thoughts?
kickazzz2000
01-12-2012, 02:11 PM
Regardless of what BW said (and I am giving some weight to it) I don't think he's the best mate for either of our PGs, esp. considering that we most likely won't keep Boris after this season. We need a SG with handles and passing ability...neither of which are in Hendo's repertoire.
A guy like Roy pre-injury would obviously be great but those guys don't grow on trees. I thought about OJ Mayo but the contract vs. his production concerns me greatly. His QO next year is in the 7 million range.
Thoughts?
Wheres Jamal Crawford or Flip Murray these days?
Just get a placeholder for MK-G to take over next year.
Black
01-12-2012, 02:29 PM
Wheres Jamal Crawford or Flip Murray these days?
Just get a placeholder for MK-G to take over next year.
Crawford's in Portland. Murray is MIA.
EDIT: Flip is playing overseas.
Proudiddy
01-12-2012, 03:40 PM
I'm thinking it is. I traded him to Houston for a first rounder on 2k last night lol, I've had enough of his 4 point outbursts.
EDIT: I then flipped that pick with Tyrus to Atlanta for Josh Smith.
Wolfpackbobcat
01-12-2012, 03:42 PM
How are we supposed to build a franchise if we keep trading young talent away. Jesus Christ.
Proudiddy
01-12-2012, 03:43 PM
Our "talent" is different than most other NBA fans' version of talent.
Wolfpackbobcat
01-12-2012, 03:47 PM
What would you trade Hendo for? More scrubs and draft busts? Id rather see him develop
Mustachio
01-12-2012, 03:51 PM
I don't think its time to do anything. making judgements right now in my opinion is kind of short sighted.
No offseason, shortened training camp, rookies and cast offs filling the roster.
Hendo has only had 10 games as the starter, without psycho steven being out there with him. I just think its far too early to want to cut him, especially since he has been playing pretty decently.
He's the only player on the team who doesn't get bullied around.
Same goes for Kemba. People keep making these final judgments on a rookie who spends the majority of his minutes, either playing with another pg beside him or Matt Carroll as his SG. Chris Paul wouldn't be a "true PG" either, if he had to pass it to Matt Carroll and biyombo everytime.
So no. Kemba, Hendo, Bismack, DJ White, Mullens should all feel kind of safe unless some huge trade comes about.
Proudiddy
01-12-2012, 03:58 PM
I think he has developed. We may get occassional 20+ point games, but usually he'll be around 10 or so consistently. He's a good defender, good athleticism, but handles are weak and so is his playmaking ability. Overall, he's better suited as a 3rd to 5th option or coming off the bench, yet, he's our starting shooting guard and a primary option.
Truth is, aside from maybe DJ, Kemba, Mully, and DJW, (and don't know about BB yet) we greatly over-value our bum-filled roster. I don't think it would really matter what we got back for him.
EDIT: I agree with Mustachio to a degree... Hendo certainly is a rugged, tough-minded player, but I just don't see him growing much more as a player.
Mustachio
01-12-2012, 04:00 PM
I think he has developed. We may get occassional 20+ point games, but usually he'll be around 10 or so consistently. He's a good defender, good athleticism, but handles are weak and so is his playmaking ability. Overall, he's better suited as a 5th option or coming off the bench, yet, he's our starting shooting guard and a primary option. .
You talking about Henderson or Gerald Wallace?
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 04:03 PM
He's an okay fit next to DJ, but a very poor fit next to Kemba
Proudiddy
01-12-2012, 04:11 PM
You talking about Henderson or Gerald Wallace?
That's actually a pretty good comparison, problem is, Gerald was a 3 or 4, 6'7" and could defend almost any position on the court. He was a better defender too. I may even argue that his handles were better than Hendo's towards the end of his stay here as well.
I just don't see how he could improve much more from where he's at now. I would love to be wrong because I want him to do well, but regardless of "starting experience," he's been in the league for 3 years now, he should be further along than where he is.
I hope I eat crow, I just don't see it happening. He isn't assertive enough to be in the role we want him to be in right now and I don't know if he ever will be. He has to want to be the best on the court...
spectre
01-12-2012, 04:15 PM
He's an okay fit next to DJ, but a very poor fit next to Kemba
Are you thinking of shooting balance? I'm concerned more with ball movement/generally running the team.
Makes me think of the chicken & the egg thing...Is Boris hindering DJ running the team or is Boris covering up DJ's shortcomings in running a team. If it's the former then you're probably right with "ok". If it's the latter I don't think he would be.
Either way we're going to need more ball handling/passing ability from at least one more starter.
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 04:29 PM
I'm thinking of the offense in general.
I've long said that a PG like Kemba needs the second guard to be able to run/initiate the offense and score on his own to allow Kemba the freedom to play off the ball at times. That's why I've been such a big proponent of Jeremy Lamb so far... he really does everything you'd want from the second guard, plus he can be a #1 scorer, plus he defends just as well as Hendo
SirBobcat
01-12-2012, 04:31 PM
How are we supposed to build a franchise if we keep trading young talent away. Jesus Christ.
I totally agree. At some point, you have to keep some people; i consider Henderson a guy we need to keep.
Marvel
01-12-2012, 04:33 PM
Come on, another trade? First DJ now Hendo? Who we gonna get from those 2 who would make us better? Another effing draft pick i guess. Stop with the knee jerk threads, killing me over here.
I'm thinking it is. I traded him to Houston for a first rounder on 2k last night lol, I've had enough of his 4 point outbursts
"4 point outbursts"? One game he scored 4 points.
He's our best perimeter defender, he's shown improvement in shooting, handles to a degree(shortened camp, practice aside), he's averaging 5rpg (around the elite average, 3rd for SGs). Give him time to develop, he has the work ethic to improve on his weaknesses.
As for his "slow development" Larry Clown says hello.
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 04:35 PM
I totally agree. At some point, you have to keep some people; i consider Henderson a guy we need to keep.
We should only keep guys who can show that they can be top 10 at their position. Hendo hasn't shown that at any point in his career so there's no need to keep him past his rookie season. The exact same situation exists with DJ except he (Hendo) still has another year to prove people wrong, but as of now, it isn't worth it.
Rookie deals are the 30 day trial periods of the NBA.
Mustachio
01-12-2012, 04:50 PM
That's actually a pretty good comparison, problem is, Gerald was a 3 or 4, 6'7" and could defend almost any position on the court. He was a better defender too. I may even argue that his handles were better than Hendo's towards the end of his stay here as well.
I just don't see how he could improve much more from where he's at now. I would love to be wrong because I want him to do well, but regardless of "starting experience," he's been in the league for 3 years now, he should be further along than where he is.
I hope I eat crow, I just don't see it happening. He isn't assertive enough to be in the role we want him to be in right now and I don't know if he ever will be. He has to want to be the best on the court...
But you can't argue that his handles are better at the end of his career there.. because its comparing an 8 year veteran to a guy who has started 10 games. Gerald Wallace was nobody his first 3 years in the league, now you guys are pissed he's playing half ass decent in Portland.
You can't have everything both ways. You can't want all star performances from guys... and want to be the first pick in the draft next year. You can't love Crash despite his weekly 0 for 10 night, and hate Hendo for the same reason.
Guys who can score 20 a night, or point guards who can create their own shot in any situation dont fall out of trees. You get them and hang on to them and build around them.
If our core of guys are allowed to develop around eachother, they will be good. It cant happen, if as soon as a rookie has a 2 for 9 night you want to ship them out for another draft pick.
Adam42R
01-12-2012, 04:53 PM
But you can't argue that his handles are better at the end of his career there.. because its comparing an 8 year veteran to a guy who has started 10 games. Gerald Wallace was nobody his first 3 years in the league, now you guys are pissed he's playing half ass decent in Portland.
You can't have everything both ways. You can't want all star performances from guys... and want to be the first pick in the draft next year. You can't love Crash despite his weekly 0 for 10 night, and hate Hendo for the same reason.
Guys who can score 20 a night, or point guards who can create their own shot in any situation dont fall out of trees. You get them and hang on to them and build around them.
If our core of guys are allowed to develop around eachother, they will be good. It cant happen, if as soon as a rookie has a 2 for 9 night you want to ship them out for another draft pick.
This is excellent! Couldn't agree more
ammofan
01-12-2012, 04:53 PM
Heck no to trading Hendo right now...Get Diaw outta here lol
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 04:54 PM
Who on our team can score 20 a night?
Plowright
01-12-2012, 05:00 PM
Heck no to trading Hendo right now...Get Diaw outta here lol
I think this is a valid point. Lets get some other scrubs out the door before Hendo. I don't think we should "cash in" It is not like he is surplus to requirements here, he is our only SG right no who is any good. If we were to trade him for other young pieces and draft picks, ok i guess but even then. I think we need to be more patient, he is coming of hip surgery and has shown improvement in his game over the last few years, whats to say he wont keep improving?
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 05:19 PM
I don't think spectre's point was that Hendo if our first player to move. It was more along the lines of "Can Hendo be a good fit in our future team and, if not, should we consider trading him while his stock is high-ish
Proudiddy
01-12-2012, 05:19 PM
But you can't argue that his handles are better at the end of his career there.. because its comparing an 8 year veteran to a guy who has started 10 games. Gerald Wallace was nobody his first 3 years in the league, now you guys are pissed he's playing half ass decent in Portland.
You can't have everything both ways. You can't want all star performances from guys... and want to be the first pick in the draft next year. You can't love Crash despite his weekly 0 for 10 night, and hate Hendo for the same reason.
Guys who can score 20 a night, or point guards who can create their own shot in any situation dont fall out of trees. You get them and hang on to them and build around them.
If our core of guys are allowed to develop around eachother, they will be good. It cant happen, if as soon as a rookie has a 2 for 9 night you want to ship them out for another draft pick.
I know you're speaking in generalizaitons here Mustachio, but about 99% of the hypotheticals you posted in there didn't apply to me. I don't want to trade every guy every time he has a bad night. I also don't hate Hendo. I was actually really excited about the pick when we made it and saw a lot of potential. I also don't expect him to be an all-star right now. It would be awesome, but I don't expect it.
That being said, he hasn't shown enough to cement him as a core player or building block. And for the record, this forum wasn't around back then, but I KNEW Gerald would be a beast if given a chance and he was. I followed Gerald since I read about him as a high schooler when he was in Alabama. I watched him when I could when he played his one year in college. I followed him in Sacto even before we got the Bobcats and after the Hornets left...
I watched Hendo in college, and I saw some promise, but not the same promise I saw in Crash. Again, I hope Hendo turns out to be a core guy, but I'm not seeing it right now.
Mustachio
01-12-2012, 05:37 PM
I know you're speaking in generalizaitons here Mustachio, but about 99% of the hypotheticals you posted in there didn't apply to me. I don't want to trade every guy every time he has a bad night. I also don't hate Hendo. I was actually really excited about the pick when we made it and saw a lot of potential. I also don't expect him to be an all-star right now. It would be awesome, but I don't expect it.
That being said, he hasn't shown enough to cement him as a core player or building block. And for the record, this forum wasn't around back then, but I KNEW Gerald would be a beast if given a chance and he was. I followed Gerald since I read about him as a high schooler when he was in Alabama. I watched him when I could when he played his one year in college. I followed him in Sacto even before we got the Bobcats and after the Hornets left...
I watched Hendo in college, and I saw some promise, but not the same promise I saw in Crash. Again, I hope Hendo turns out to be a core guy, but I'm not seeing it right now.
Fair enough, and you are correct, i was speaking in generalizations there. Every day its a new person who just cannot wait to get rid of fill in the blank. just gets a bit much.
See I feel better about where Hendo is now, than I did about Wallace at the same point of their careers. Wallace got tons better... i expect Hendo to do the same.
read through everything. to comment on the title, cashing in is kind of a misnomer of a title because that implies there is value. hendo is paid chump change and his production (4 pt games and all) far exceed his value back from a trade. so no i wouldn't shop him.
as to him being a core guy. at this point i would say no. i don't expect much more of him in terms of breakout career arc. i expect him to continue to improve but he will never be a go to guy. he wasn't at duke and hasn't shown it is in his personality thus far in the nba. if we were in a position where lamb was the bpa and we were drafting i would take him in a heartbeat. from what i have seen (very little) and what our local draft expert says he could be wade like sg.
so no to trading/shopping him but no to long term plans including him as a starter either.
spectre
01-12-2012, 06:40 PM
I don't think spectre's point was that Hendo if our first player to move. It was more along the lines of "Can Hendo be a good fit in our future team and, if not, should we consider trading him while his stock is high-ish
Exactly. I consider him one of our "core" group of youngsters, but that doesn't mean he or anyone else couldn't be moved if something better presented itself. In this I'm mainly focusing on fit.
I'm still not sold that Hendo & DJ are a good (I know you said ok) pairing. It would be very interesting to see Boris go down...and no I'm not at all wishing injury on the guy...just to see how we do in terms of motion. I'm afraid it'd be a train wreck.
Swedd has his eyes on Lamb. Maybe we this isn't the optimal time...maybe we draft a guy like that and this would be more applicable next year. Either way all things should be considered.
spectre
01-12-2012, 06:47 PM
read through everything. to comment on the title, cashing in is kind of a misnomer of a title because that implies there is value. hendo is paid chump change and his production (4 pt games and all) far exceed his value back from a trade. so no i wouldn't shop him.
I'm not following you. I agree he's getting paid chump change and his production exceeds his cost...but why are you saying there's no value? Hell, everyone wants cheap production!
You could theoretically pair Carroll with Hendo and get a Mayo type. Lose a bad contract and get a better fit...but for a guy that's going to cost more.
Just an example. Again that contract bothers me a lot...but I'm sure there's more examples where we could "cash in".
So leave my title alone! :biggrin:
I'm not following you. I agree he's getting paid chump change and his production exceeds his cost...but why are you saying there's no value? Hell, everyone wants cheap production!
You could theoretically pair Carroll with Hendo and get a Mayo type. Lose a bad contract and get a better fit...but for a guy that's going to cost more.
Just an example. Again that contract bothers me a lot...but I'm sure there's more examples where we could "cash in".
So leave my title alone! :biggrin:
the reasoning was a little fuzzy. i mean any team that would take him would be like we took mullens (with a little more value). if i were another team the most i would take on would be someone like carroll for an expiring but not a talented expiring. in other words he is worth much more to us than he is to any one else so he really doesn't have value in a trade scenario from our point of view. i don't expect he would yield a draft pick or an on the radar young talent.
spectre
01-12-2012, 06:57 PM
the reasoning was a little fuzzy. i mean any team that would take him would be like we took mullens (with a little more value). if i were another team the most i would take on would be someone like carroll for an expiring but not a talented expiring. in other words he is worth much more to us than he is to any one else so he really doesn't have value in a trade scenario from our point of view. i don't expect he would yield a draft pick or an on the radar young talent.
Maybe I'm over valuing him. I figure he has at least as much value as DJ if not a little more. Less polished but a strong as hell wing defender with a good midrange and still has a couple cheap years. There's not that many SGs who can slow down the likes of Flash & Kobe but Hendo usually does a decent job.
I'd guess late lotto pick straight up, bad contract for mid 20s pick and a throw in prospect like what OKC considered Mully. Also something like I mentioned above with Mayo.
superb1
01-12-2012, 07:03 PM
I totally agree. At some point, you have to keep some people; i consider Henderson a guy we need to keep.
If will get someone better, hendo solidifies a position on the bench.
Maybe I'm over valuing him. I figure he has at least as much value as DJ if not a little more. Less polished but a strong as hell wing defender with a good midrange and still has a couple cheap years. There's not that many SGs who can slow down the likes of Flash & Kobe but Hendo usually does a decent job.
I'd guess late lotto pick straight up, bad contract for mid 20s pick and a throw in prospect like what OKC considered Mully. Also something like I mentioned above with Mayo.
well if we could get what you are thinking then i would absolutely think about moving him. my fear of what is going to happen is he will continue to improve to be a really tough defender and solid sg think tony allen but we will be forced to pay him market value (6-8 mil) before we know the teams direction. basically my same argument for not paying/being forced to build around dj.
i highly doubt his value is what you think it is. we need a bcp'er with a connection to a gm somewhere to get a feel for these issues. you can't go to realgm because it is filled with assclowns who have no idea of what a players value is especially one from their own team.
GoBobs
01-12-2012, 07:39 PM
If we can get a pick for him I think we should do it. He is a nice player but not a star. Until we find a star we need to look for future assets and keep our payroll down. If we pay guys like DJ A, DJ White, and Hendo market value it is going to make it hard to bring in that final piece when the time is right. The only guys we should consider spending big money on right now are crappy contract vets that come with draft picks. Thats how the cavs got the number one last year.
Marvel
01-12-2012, 10:51 PM
well if we could get what you are thinking then i would absolutely think about moving him. my fear of what is going to happen is he will continue to improve to be a really tough defender and solid sg think tony allen but we will be forced to pay him market value (6-8 mil) before we know the teams direction. basically my same argument for not paying/being forced to build around dj.
i highly doubt his value is what you think it is. we need a bcp'er with a connection to a gm somewhere to get a feel for these issues. you can't go to realgm because it is filled with assclowns who have no idea of what a players value is especially one from their own team.
LOL - RealGM posters ass -essments on players aren't any worse than BCP posters buddy. This thread is a typical example.
Some of y'all are clowns, y'all want to wait for Kemba to develop into a PG, but can't wait for Hendo te develop legit handles? What part of the "clown ass" game is that?
SWedd523
01-12-2012, 11:27 PM
well if we could get what you are thinking then i would absolutely think about moving him. my fear of what is going to happen is he will continue to improve to be a really tough defender and solid sg think tony allen but we will be forced to pay him market value (6-8 mil) before we know the teams direction. basically my same argument for not paying/being forced to build around dj.
i highly doubt his value is what you think it is. we need a bcp'er with a connection to a gm somewhere to get a feel for these issues. you can't go to realgm because it is filled with assclowns who have no idea of what a players value is especially one from their own team.
A lot of us are regulars on RGM as well you meany!
Toocool
01-13-2012, 01:23 AM
Cash in on Hendo?
Hell no.
<- Blatent Hendo fanboyerism
Pretty sure Hendo has no value at all. As much as we hate Bill Simmons, he's in tune with a LOT of NBA GMs and Front Offices, and he didn't put Hendo anywhere at all in his shooting guard rankings. Now, he wasn't accurate in doing that, but he talks to GMs, and if one of them liked Hendo, you'd think he'd at least be on Simmons' radar (at least higher than Vince Carter...right?).
QC Thundercats
01-13-2012, 03:16 AM
Hendo is a keeper on the team. I mean, sure, if we got a good offer for any of the guys on the roster, you have to consider it, no one is untouchable right now. But he's a young, athletic guy who has shown a strong work ethic on improving his weaknesses.
His shot was very inconsistent coming in and had questionable shooting form, but his work on it in the offseason shows, as he has great consistency out to 20 feet or so. If he now works on his ball handling this summer, why can't that also improve a lot.
If you're expecting a 20 point per game dynamic scorer, you'll forever be disappointed then. You can't fill every position on the court with a top tier player, and I think he plays his role solidly. He has great defensive instincts which should only improve over the years. He gets 5 boards a game. If you leave him open, he'll knock shots down, and he can explode to the rim when he gets a step. He just needs to learn a couple moves that would allow him to get that step to the hole with ease, and study up on how Billups and Wade use pump fakes and footwork to draw fouls and get to the line.
A Tony Allen type defender was a good comparison that somebody mentioned, except Hendo's a much better shooter/offensive player. I think he's very good coming off screens and curls, so why couldn't he be like a Rip Hamilton on offense with a catch and shoot kind of game, but with more athleticism. Actually, if he could develop his offensive game to something like Wes Matthews, with solid outside shooting, but an aggressive nose to get to the rim, I think that would fit our team perfectly.
I think he has the talent and potential to develop into that, and if he does, then I think he's a great core piece moving ahead to complement a draft pick/free agent that we hopefully can pick up.
spectre
01-13-2012, 04:55 AM
Not to speak for Chef...but since we're talking about value don't you figure he meant the RGM Trade board? Or possibly the General board where fans post their "So & So is Gonna Be Great!" threads? I think they have one on Mully right now.
Do you guys really think those two boards are so accurate in player assessment?
I hope he can develop handles...but that's a skill that isn't easily developed after one gets into the league.
Not to speak for Chef...but since we're talking about value don't you figure he meant the RGM Trade board? Or possibly the General board where fans post their "So & So is Gonna Be Great!" threads? I think they have one on Mully right now.
Do you guys really think those two boards are so accurate in player assessment?
I hope he can develop handles...but that's a skill that isn't easily developed after one gets into the league.
trade forum is what i meant. fans are delusional and have no concept of a player's worth. on top of that most are in a competition to see who can result to personal insults the fastest.
example, remember last year when i posted the trade that i got blasted on over there. i was told that i am an idiot and know nothing about basketball. here is the extremely offensive trade. diaw + draft pick for thabeet and mayo. i couldn't find the exact trade on the search here so i am going off of memory. i believe there was a sf going over to them as well but can't remember exactly. anyway, you would have thought i typed in rudy gay and a #1 pick.
is it a little light on value, probably but thabeet AND a #1 pick was traded to houston for battier. and oj was almost traded to indy for josh mcroberts and a pick. so i wasn't that far off in value. i was getting oj for ellis, oj for steph curry etc. my point is most people on there have no clue about ACTUAL value.
the fact of the matter is we throw around things like "this is basically his 2nd year". no it is his fourth year and unlike mullens he has had 3 years of college and 4 years of opportunity to develop his game. he will continue to improve but a breakout is very unlikely. he is a very solid player and we should hold on to him as long as he stays cheap but we should not consider him a core piece or building block.
spectre
01-13-2012, 08:28 AM
BTW...I don't get why anyone would be offended by this thread. It's basically about assessing fit and value to the overall team going forward. Shouldn't Cho and us always be thinking along those lines?
Next up...a "Time to Cash in on Mully?" thread!
:hysterical:
here is a good example of what i was talking about on realgm
No formal trade request has been lodged yet, but sources say a player to watch as the deadline approaches is the Clippers' Mo Williams. There simply aren't enough minutes in the Clippers' crowded backcourt, not even enough for Williams to assert himself as a viable threat off the bench. In the Clippers' 95-89 overtime victory over the Heat on Wednesday night, Williams had six points in only 21 minutes. At only 26 minutes a game, Williams' playing time has been squeezed and with the grueling schedule, there will be no shortage of contenders looking for guard help.
Randy Foye, whose minutes have been squeezed even more, also could be a target of trade inquiries. It's inconceivable that the Clippers would do this, but the ideal landing spot for Williams would be the other team that plays in Staples Center. Williams at point guard alongside Kobe Bryant would solve a lot of problems for the Lakers.
http://www.cbssports.com/nba/story/1684 ... e-a-chance
LAC Get: Tyrus Thomas,CHI 2nd
CHA Get: TPE,DAL 1st
LAL Get: Mo Williams
Cliips lost craig smith in the offseason and brian cook is a scrub so they upgrade their bench at a position of actual need and and get a pick
Bobcats dump Tyrus and add some flexebility especially since DJ White/Diaw are playing well
Lakers get a tradition pg with some speed and penetration/3ball
no way is TT this valuable to an actual gm. if i am the clippers gm there is no way i want his salary on my books. especially with him injured. the only way i take him is if i get the lakers first. which means that mo williams cost the lakers a tpe and 2 #1's, not likely. (of course a big part of us here at bcp would be fine with just the tpe for tt.) the other big factor is that i seriously doubt that the clippers and lakers would work together in a deal not only are they in the same division but they share a town.
TheBeagle
01-13-2012, 03:48 PM
It's still too early for me to conclude he isn't the answer as our starting 2 moving forward. He's been inconsistent for sure, but so has 90% of the league up to this point, including our entire roster, so there's not much to take from that.
I'm all about asset acquisition, but like others've posted, I don't think Jr has any real value that would net us, or springboard us into netting a better asset than him. Hopefully, though, Cho is making calls daily doing just that, not just for Jr but for anybody on the roster.
CatNation1
01-13-2012, 04:12 PM
I'm thinking and hoping that Reggie will play well enough to push Hendo to step us as well. Right now I think he knows he has most of the SG minutes by default.
Marvel
01-13-2012, 04:59 PM
Hendo is a keeper on the team. I mean, sure, if we got a good offer for any of the guys on the roster, you have to consider it, no one is untouchable right now. But he's a young, athletic guy who has shown a strong work ethic on improving his weaknesses.
His shot was very inconsistent coming in and had questionable shooting form, but his work on it in the offseason shows, as he has great consistency out to 20 feet or so. If he now works on his ball handling this summer, why can't that also improve a lot.
If you're expecting a 20 point per game dynamic scorer, you'll forever be disappointed then. You can't fill every position on the court with a top tier player, and I think he plays his role solidly. He has great defensive instincts which should only improve over the years. He gets 5 boards a game. If you leave him open, he'll knock shots down, and he can explode to the rim when he gets a step. He just needs to learn a couple moves that would allow him to get that step to the hole with ease, and study up on how Billups and Wade use pump fakes and footwork to draw fouls and get to the line.
A Tony Allen type defender was a good comparison that somebody mentioned, except Hendo's a much better shooter/offensive player. I think he's very good coming off screens and curls, so why couldn't he be like a Rip Hamilton on offense with a catch and shoot kind of game, but with more athleticism. Actually, if he could develop his offensive game to something like Wes Matthews, with solid outside shooting, but an aggressive nose to get to the rim, I think that would fit our team perfectly.
I think he has the talent and potential to develop into that, and if he does, then I think he's a great core piece moving ahead to complement a draft pick/free agent that we hopefully can pick up.
That's what i'm saying. Who are we going to get for Hendo that would be a "better fit"? A lottery pick? Pffft. Portland are doing it with Matthews, Denver with Afflalo. They're not all star players, but they are very solid pieces on a top tier team.
With this logic maybe we should trade the entire team, because if you didn't get the memo none of our players are flawless, they all have weaknesses in their games. I assume this basketball game is a team sport...no?
bes628
01-13-2012, 06:09 PM
lol im sure there are suitors lining up for him.
anton273
01-15-2012, 10:50 AM
Seriously I'd we get rid of hendo I expect a much better shooter and playmaker but are we going to get that from him?
I think he is our starter like the situation in Oklahoma! We just need the Spark off the bench! Im actually thinking we shouldn't make any trades except for Diaw!! I love Hendo, if he just showed a little more aggression which he has been doing past 3 games then I think his position is safe!
Toocool
01-15-2012, 11:45 AM
Interesting to note with Hendo, for you stat-whores out there:
Averages almost 5 rebounds per game, among guards that's tied 5th.
Shoots at .450 FG%, which is 22nd among guards
Averages over a steal a game
Equal 9th for blocks among guards.
Not bad for a guy who in the first year and a half, barely got on the floor.
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