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Veteran_Picksetter
01-16-2012, 09:22 PM
I've heard Luol Deng, Michael Finley, Mitch Richmond, Ron Mercer, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, and even Kevin Durant(WAY off).

In your opinion, which current or former NBA player is he most like?

Chef
01-16-2012, 09:52 PM
I've heard Luol Deng, Michael Finley, Mitch Richmond, Ron Mercer, Joe Johnson, Paul Pierce, and even Kevin Durant(WAY off).

In your opinion, which current or former NBA player is he most like?

glenn rice

Veteran_Picksetter
01-16-2012, 10:06 PM
glenn rice

I like that. Same height. Obviously both rely on outside shooting. Maybe Barnes is a little bulkier.

SWedd523
01-16-2012, 10:15 PM
glenn rice

What a copy cat!


Also, I may merge this or break out each player into a dedicated thread. Ziggy?

Chef
01-16-2012, 10:20 PM
What a copy cat!


Also, I may merge this or break out each player into a dedicated thread. Ziggy?

i agree with that it is such as good comp. i could also see him being a paul pierce offensively minus the killer instinct. swedd i just posted a new question to you.

Veteran_Picksetter
01-16-2012, 10:22 PM
Also, I may merge this or break out each player into a dedicated thread. Ziggy?

Whatchu talkin' 'bout Willis??

westbrook08
01-24-2012, 05:41 AM
He's dale ellis with better defense.I've been saying it for 2 years.And he's nowhere near as big in person as glen rice was.Rice's head was bigger than barnes whole body! lol. However i will say i love the idea of taking davis in the draft to pair with bismack, but to those who say barnes is overrated and the we should take someone else i would say this. He will for sure be one of the best shooters in the nba, he already plays great defense, and he has the athleticism, he just needs to learn to use it.I don't know if he will be a superstar or not, but i feel very confident saying that he will for sure be an all star @ some point and his ability to space the floor along with kemba and hendo's athleticism would make us a nightmare for other teams.If davis isn't there, i think we need to take this kid for sure!

Bobcatter
01-26-2012, 10:42 PM
glenn rice

I still can't get over the fact that he slept with Sarah Palin back when he was in college...that had to be the best news story of 2011.

Chef
01-26-2012, 10:51 PM
I still can't get over the fact that he slept with Sarah Palin back when he was in college...that had to be the best news story of 2011.

regardless of her or your politics she is smokin hot. if she just would never ever talk.

Bobcatter
01-26-2012, 10:53 PM
regardless of her or your politics she is smokin hot. if she just would never ever talk.

Couldn't agree more.

Toocool
01-27-2012, 02:51 AM
Masking tape does wonders for a woman's mouth, especially when it's open 24/7

dav7z
01-27-2012, 04:28 PM
He's dale ellis with better defense.I've been saying it for 2 years.And he's nowhere near as big in person as glen rice was.Rice's head was bigger than barnes whole body! lol. However i will say i love the idea of taking davis in the draft to pair with bismack, but to those who say barnes is overrated and the we should take someone else i would say this. He will for sure be one of the best shooters in the nba, he already plays great defense, and he has the athleticism, he just needs to learn to use it.I don't know if he will be a superstar or not, but i feel very confident saying that he will for sure be an all star @ some point and his ability to space the floor along with kemba and hendo's athleticism would make us a nightmare for other teams.If davis isn't there, i think we need to take this kid for sure!
Hes special but don't seem agressive enough, Hes smove like MELLO , about the same size but isn't near as agressive, He moves better than Rice and not as good of a shot from out side. T Mcgrady may be.

Zoolander
01-28-2012, 06:28 PM
Bruce Bowen

stun704
01-29-2012, 12:55 AM
Bruce Bowen
lol wtf, I say a Luol Deng/Glenn Rice/Poor mans Durant Hybrid

Demon DeaCat
01-30-2012, 10:09 AM
Wow. I've seen Glenn Rice's name dropped a few times now in comparison to Barnes. Rice was one of the best shooters in college basketball history. Barnes is a good shooter, but I wouldn't put him in that company. I think Deng is just about perfect.

SWedd523
01-30-2012, 01:09 PM
Wow. I've seen Glenn Rice's name dropped a few times now in comparison to Barnes. Rice was one of the best shooters in college basketball history. Barnes is a good shooter, but I wouldn't put him in that company. I think Deng is just about perfect.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_NCAA_Division_I_men's_basketball_career_3-point_scoring_leaders

I'm a huge Glen Rice fan, but no he isn't.

Demon DeaCat
01-30-2012, 05:04 PM
http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=ycn-7210010

Uh, yes he is. If you're looking at it in terms of the total number of 3s made, that's a skewed stat since there was no 3-pt. line during Rice's freshman year. But the guy shot 48% from 3 during his college career. That's a ridiculous percentage. How can you say he wasn't one of best?

SWedd523
01-30-2012, 06:28 PM
He wasn't even a volume shooter from deep until his last year. He took 12 threes his sophomore year and only 77 his Junior year. Guys that were able to shoot over 40% from three while taking over 900 attempts is a feat. 48% while only taking 281 isn't.

JJ Redick took 1126 threes over his career and made 40.6%. THAT is a great percentage on great volume.

CatNation1
01-30-2012, 07:51 PM
pretty sure LaceDarius Dunn was a career 40% 3pt shooter on probably close to that many attempts and he sucked dick

SWedd523
01-30-2012, 08:28 PM
pretty sure LaceDarius Dunn was a career 40% 3pt shooter on probably close to that many attempts and he sucked dick

True. Being a great shooter =/= being a great player. Glen Rice was both.

CatNation1
01-30-2012, 09:14 PM
True. Being a great shooter =/= being a great player. Glen Rice was both.

But is Harrison Barnes? hmmmmm

thought he looked pretty good against GT a bit more aggressive. he can score the ball no doubt..but so can a lot of people. Still seems like to me you have to really excel at more than just scoring to justify a top 3-5 pick. His only really elite skill I see is shooting the 3, but then again he only plays 26 mpg.

but still..look at what Durant did in his freshman year..and Harrison Barnes is supposed to be worthy to be picked anywhere near that guy??

what makes him a better prospect than Danny Granger who was a mid 1st rounder..honestly every day that goes by I think this draft is crappier and crappier..

Demon DeaCat
01-30-2012, 11:04 PM
Guys that were able to shoot over 40% from three while taking over 900 attempts is a feat. 48% while only taking 281 isn't.


Yeah, you're right. A 48% 3 pt. shooter isn't very impressive at all.

Demon DeaCat
01-30-2012, 11:10 PM
But is Harrison Barnes? hmmmmm

thought he looked pretty good against GT a bit more aggressive. he can score the ball no doubt..but so can a lot of people. Still seems like to me you have to really excel at more than just scoring to justify a top 3-5 pick. His only really elite skill I see is shooting the 3, but then again he only plays 26 mpg.

but still..look at what Durant did in his freshman year..and Harrison Barnes is supposed to be worthy to be picked anywhere near that guy??

what makes him a better prospect than Danny Granger who was a mid 1st rounder..honestly every day that goes by I think this draft is crappier and crappier..

I totally agree. He's probably no better than Granger, but someone's got to be taken with those early picks, and Barnes is as good an option as anyone I've seen. That speaks volumes about how overrated this draft is though.

SWedd523
01-30-2012, 11:47 PM
Yeah, you're right. A 48% 3 pt. shooter isn't very impressive at all.

Derrick Williams shot 56.8% from three last year. Is he a great outside shooter?

Proudiddy
01-31-2012, 09:55 AM
Glen Rice would be insulted. Barnes is really overrated IMO, and I'm an alum. Cool guy, good game overall, has great tools, but he seems mentally fragile and lacks the killer instinct of a consistent, leading scorer. I think the Deng comparison is much more in line with what Barnes is. Both have grea tools, will occasionally flash some jaw-dropping athleticism, but greatly rely on others to get their shot and don't demand the ball enough to be consistent.

Demon DeaCat
01-31-2012, 10:56 AM
Greatness is measured in a number of different ways. For shooters, it's not simply a function of the number of shots taken/made, which seems to be your prominent criterion, but also the context in which a player does whatever it is that he does. Rice attempted 281 3s in his career, converting on nearly half of those attempts. Clearly he wasn't the volume shooter that Reddick was, but that's still a decent sample size and would be considered by most to be an impressive feat, although it doesn't seem to pass muster with you. Add to that the fact that he did this on college basketball's biggest stage while leading his team to a national title. When you look at his body of work as a whole, I'm not sure how his prowess as a shooter is even debatable, but nevertheless, we'll have to agree to disagree.

Mustachio
01-31-2012, 12:10 PM
I am fully on the Harrison Barnes bandwagon now. I think Davis is an excellent prospect, but with Mullens, Biyombo and Tyrus, the last thing we really need is a super skinny athlete with potential.

In my opinion, Barnes will flourish in the NBA. He is that kind of player. Long arms that help him play great man on and team defense. His scoring ability was on show against GT and impressed me with little stuff like attacking/driving to the rim on breaks and the finishing touch on layups. He has it. And honestly out of this draft no one compliments our current setup. I obviously understand that you take the BPA everytime... but maybe he is both the BPA and a perfect fit. We need a SF and a long term pairing of Kemba/Hendo/Barnes is pretty freaking exciting to me.

Some complaints have been his determination or killer instinct... but honestly I think its there, it's just harder to display at a school like UNC or Duke where every player was that special player in high school. Kevin Durant was on a pretty good team, but Texas wasnt stacked with the kind of talent UNC has. Durant was the only option, where as Barnes has a couple players around him that demand attention. And besides that I think aggression can be taught, just look at Henderson this year. He is attacking the rim more than he ever has in his career and its made a huge difference. What you really can't teach is that scoring ability, some people just have it.

Again... Kemba/Henderson/Barnes/Biyombo/Mullens is actually a pretty exciting group of under 25.