Realistic Ways to get another Lottery Pick

[kjk2241]

I know this should probably go in the draft forum, but since I am talking about current Bobcat players I decided to put this here. Ideally, if I'd be ecstatic much like all of you to be able to draft a combo of Davis and a wing type player (barnes, lamb, gilchrist).

Right now near the end of the lottery is Portland, Houston, New Orleans and Phoenix. Right now our trading pieces are DJ, Diaw and TT. We also have a good amount of expirings for 2013. So my question is: Are there any realistic trade options to obtain a second lottery pick? I don't think TT or Diaw would be able to get it done. DJ+Portland pick for 2012 lottery pick might be one possibility.

Can you think of any others?

I love the possibility for a lineup that would include two lottery picks this year, but I have very little faith that we can pull it off. What do you all think? Please keep my dream alive!!

Dream Orgasmic Lineup
PG: Kemba
SG: Henderson
SF: Barnes, Gilchrist or Lamb(sg)
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Bismack

[Chef]

I know this should probably go in the draft forum, but since I am talking about current Bobcat players I decided to put this here. Ideally, if I'd be ecstatic much like all of you to be able to draft a combo of Davis and a wing type player (barnes, lamb, gilchrist).

Right now near the end of the lottery is Portland, Houston, New Orleans and Phoenix. Right now our trading pieces are DJ, Diaw and TT. We also have a good amount of expirings for 2013. So my question is: Are there any realistic trade options to obtain a second lottery pick? I don't think TT or Diaw would be able to get it done. DJ+Portland pick for 2012 lottery pick might be one possibility.

Can you think of any others?

I love the possibility for a lineup that would include two lottery picks this year, but I have very little faith that we can pull it off. What do you all think? Please keep my dream alive!!

Dream Orgasmic Lineup
PG: Kemba
SG: Henderson
SF: Barnes, Gilchrist or Lamb(sg)
PF: Anthony Davis
C: Bismack

i think TT is not viewed as a trade piece because of his stupidly ridiculous contract. if he can consistently get 15/8/1.5 blocks and not be a knucklehead or show the BBIQ of a rock, he would then become at least tradeable.

[westbrook08]

I think the only way we get another high pick in this draft is if another g.m. is secretly in the closet and cho bends over and takes it like a man, while giving back 2 future 1st rounders! lol.

[dav7z]

Ive thought DJ, and Boris to LA for thair two late first . Then trade LAs two first and our Portland first and our 2nd the 31st pick . Thats three first and a 2nd for the number 2 pick. We then Take Davis and Barnes.
Would love,, Kemba, Henderson, Barnes, Davis , SMACK ,,, line up

[murphman]

It has been mentioned before but Utah owns Golden States pick (top 7 protected) and are in desperate need of a quality point guard because Devin Harris isn't doing so hot right now. DJ would be a perfect fit for them but they don't want to give up a possible lottery pick for a player who may walk in July. They are hovering right at the lower end of the playoffs and their 2nd best player on the team, CJ Miles, is also an UFA in July. They already have $53 million committed to 10 players next season so re-signing CJ plus adding the salary of a lottery pick & 2nd round pick would eliminate any extra cap to go out and get better. So I've got this idea

Utah: DJ Aug., Boris Diaw, Derrick Brown
Charlotte: Devin Harris, Josh Howard, Jeremy Evans & Utah's pick from Golden State

All the players above are expiring contracts except Devin Harris who has one more year of 8.5 mil. For Utah, removing him frees up enough cap space to retain DJ & CJ and perhaps give them a bit more to go after a mid level free agent or two. Plus if the GS pick moves into the top 7, they get to keep it and we have to wait another year.

For us, well, we get even worse for the remaining of the year and by adding Harris and the salary of 2 lottery picks, we remove most of our available cap space for next season greatly limiting our free agent choices. But it also gives us a good backup PG. So, assuming we get the GS pick and it falls between 8-14, our team next season would be:

PG: Kemba, Harris, 2nd round pick
SG: Henderson, Williams, Carroll
SF: Maggette, lottery pick
PF: TT, lottery pick
C: Biyombo, Mullens, Diop

That gives 13 players and we can use our mid level to bring in another forward (Antwan Jamison perhaps for two years). Whats good is that the players in blue are expiring after next season and will free up over 35 million in salary thus letting us go after a big FA, re-sign Henderson and still build around our young core.

[Chef]

It has been mentioned before but Utah owns Golden States pick (top 7 protected) and are in desperate need of a quality point guard because Devin Harris isn't doing so hot right now. DJ would be a perfect fit for them but they don't want to give up a possible lottery pick for a player who may walk in July. They are hovering right at the lower end of the playoffs and their 2nd best player on the team, CJ Miles, is also an UFA in July. They already have $53 million committed to 10 players next season so re-signing CJ plus adding the salary of a lottery pick & 2nd round pick would eliminate any extra cap to go out and get better. So I've got this idea

Utah: DJ Aug., Boris Diaw, Derrick Brown
Charlotte: Devin Harris, Josh Howard, Jeremy Evans & Utah's pick from Golden State

All the players above are expiring contracts except Devin Harris who has one more year of 8.5 mil. For Utah, removing him frees up enough cap space to retain DJ & CJ and perhaps give them a bit more to go after a mid level free agent or two. Plus if the GS pick moves into the top 7, they get to keep it and we have to wait another year.

For us, well, we get even worse for the remaining of the year and by adding Harris and the salary of 2 lottery picks, we remove most of our available cap space for next season greatly limiting our free agent choices. But it also gives us a good backup PG. So, assuming we get the GS pick and it falls between 8-14, our team next season would be:

PG: Kemba, Harris, 2nd round pick
SG: Henderson, Williams, Carroll
SF: Maggette, lottery pick
PF: TT, lottery pick
C: Biyombo, Mullens, Diop

That gives 13 players and we can use our mid level to bring in another forward (Antwan Jamison perhaps for two years). Whats good is that the players in blue are expiring after next season and will free up over 35 million in salary thus letting us go after a big FA, re-sign Henderson and still build around our young core.

josh howard is one of the reasons they are doing so well this year. harris is playing poorly, but he is not a salary dump type player. realistically, the best shot we have is dj for cj watson and evans and gsw pick. which keeps them under the cap, gets them the player they want and basically boils down to dj for the #7 pick which i think is fair. we may also have to throw in our 2nd to make it work.

[SWedd523]

I don't think a team is going to trade us a worthwhile lottery pick for any player on our team outside of Bismack. Our best bet is to get the 1st/2nd pick and trade down to a team that has multiples, like New Orleans

[WAM9]

I don't think a team is going to trade us a worthwhile lottery pick for any player on our team outside of Bismack. Our best bet is to get the 1st/2nd pick and trade down to a team that has multiples, like New Orleans

While I agree with you, I would hate to trade down for multiple picks. I have visions of the Felton/May vs Chris Paul year. Even though this draft looks deep, I would rather have quality over quantity. If we get the #1 or #2 pick, I am for keeping it and getting our guy for sure.

[cltblkhscoach]

Do you guys think we really need multiple lottery picks? I mean I know it's a want, but I don't think we're THAT far away. That being said it may take a combination of an expiring like Diaw with one of our few assets that has some promise in return for a late lottery....who could we pull that off with?

[SWedd523]

While I agree with you, I would hate to trade down for multiple picks. I have visions of the Felton/May vs Chris Paul year. Even though this draft looks deep, I would rather have quality over quantity. If we get the #1 or #2 pick, I am for keeping it and getting our guy for sure.
Yeah. I guess I should clarify myself by saying I probably wouldn't trade down either. I was just putting out there what I think may be the only opportunity

[spectre]

While I agree with you, I would hate to trade down for multiple picks. I have visions of the Felton/May vs Chris Paul year. Even though this draft looks deep, I would rather have quality over quantity. If we get the #1 or #2 pick, I am for keeping it and getting our guy for sure.

This. Because of that previous instance I'm very gunshy about moving down. Not saying it couldn't be a prudent move...but it could also be a HUGE mistake.


Do you guys think we really need multiple lottery picks? I mean I know it's a want, but I don't think we're THAT far away.

I think we are that far away. Farther even.

Either way though we have to acquire assets...and picks are the most coveted of them all.

...which is probably why we won't have much luck getting any extra ones.

[superb1]

I read that Minn may want to trade their pick, since it is on ESPN insider I can't read the hold article. I think we may can pull at least one or two late picks if we tried.

http://insider.espn.go.com/nba/blog?name=nba_draft&id=7554446&_slug_=nba-deep-draft-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-2012-pick&action=upsell&appRedirect=http%3a%2f%2finsider.espn.go.com%2fnba %2fblog%3fname%3dnba_draft%26id%3d7554446%26_slug_ %3dnba-deep-draft-minnesota-timberwolves-trade-2012-pick

The 2012 draft is shaping up to be one of the deepest in years. Normally that would be a good thing for a team with a draft pick that will fall in the middle of the first round outside the lottery. But when it comes to the Minnesota Timberwolves, a team starting to make a push for the playoffs, it may actually be an incentive to trade that pick away.

It's slightly counterintuitive, particularly since the Timberwolves are a young, rebuilding team and have already dealt their 2012 first-rounder. The pick they have now is the lottery-protected pick acquired from the Utah Jazz. With no shot at a top pick, Minnesota knows it isn't about to acquire a franchise cornerstone. The question then becomes, how much solid young talent is too much solid young talent?

Young players need minutes and reps to develop, and therein lies the problem. Simply put, Minnesota already has a lot of good young prospects, and adding two more from the draft simply diminishes available playing time for all of them.

For a team like Minnesota, which has quickly moved into possible playoff contention in the highly competitive Northwest Division, it may be prudent to trade the pick for a more veteran component who can help the Wolves make a postseason run in 2012-13.

[dnbman]

For a team like Minnesota, which has quickly moved into possible playoff contention in the highly competitive Northwest Division, it may be prudent to trade the pick for a more veteran component who can help the Wolves make a postseason run in 2012-13.

And I believe that veteran is Gana Diop.

Get it done.

[Plowright]

And I believe that veteran is Gana Diop.

Get it done.

HAHAHAH just think if we pulled that off lol