Would you resign CRASH

[dav7z]

Even though we in rebuild mode . This team will still need a strong vetran presance.[ A example]
I can't think of a better one than CHASH.
would you offer CRASH four years at 10 per . To lead a rebuild. I agee he don't have but about two more good years . But you have to factor in the person.

[superb1]

If he has a similar attitude as A. Jamison does about wanting to be here to mentor, yes i'll jump all over it. But it also depends on where we are in the rebuilding process, where he is at in his career, our salary cap situation etc.

[Chef]

Even though we in rebuild mode . This team will still need a strong vetran presance.[ A example]
I can't think of a better one than CHASH.
would you offer CRASH four years at 10 per . To lead a rebuild. I agee he don't have but about two more good years . But you have to factor in the person.

no way. aside from the fact that he feels burned by the bobcats and wouldn't resign here, that is way to much money for him.

[Proudiddy]

He's not re-signing here and the Blazers seem to like him more now than Batum.

[murphman]

As long as Higgins is here, Crash will refuse to come back.

[Dcarnys]

If he is up to it and the price is right, I would in a heartbeat.

[superb1]

My bad, after re-reading the thread. I thought you meant 4yr/10mil total. I change my mind. I don't think so, at that amount he would be past his prime

[Mustachio]

No, I would like to eventually win a playoff series.


offering 10 mil per year to a mediocre 30 year old with 3 concussions is solid grounds for termination for a GM.

[bing!]

I'm not in the mood for another ~ .500 season and a first round exit.

As far as the Cats go, it's either dwelling at the bottom and waiting for a lucky star to adorn our draft chances or being an actual contender. The former fosters hope for a better tomorrow, the latter gives one a clear, and actual, goal to strive for. Being mediocre is akin to rotting in a limbo.

So... no.

[bes628]

yes cause Crash was the reason we were mediocre ...

[bing!]

yes cause Crash was the reason we were mediocre ...

No, he wasn't, I get the sarcasm... but he did manage to reinforce the mediocrity of his supporting cast which, in and of itself, is fairly worse than being mediocre.

[dav7z]

Portland has said thair long term comitment is in Batum .
Lets say we cut TT . Draft A,Davis , More than likely trading Diaw, and DJ
' So we need that one vetran that could be counted on.
[ Kemba , Henderson , A Davis, Smack Crash] a solid but very young core with one teir 1 veteran

Crash has at least two good years left . To lead thease kids.
Adding in our Portland pick and what DJ and Boris brings . The young core should be solid.
CHASH would only cost a little more than TT with a hell of a lot more production. So signing Crash wouldn't strap us for cash.,

Would you rather pay TT 9mil per or CRASH 10 mil per. Thats not saying we coultn't get CRASH cheaper.

[Pepperz]

We need at least this and next years draft to happen first before we make a move for any quality FAs. Signing a quality player before we are ready to make a title move will be premature and just force us back into mediocrity.

[dav7z]

We need at least this and next years draft to happen first before we make a move for any quality FAs. Signing a quality player before we are ready to make a title move will be premature and just force us back into mediocrity.

Just asking ,,but by adding A Davis along with Hendo, Kemba , Smack , Portlands first , plus what ever Boris and DJ brings isn't enough to sign a vetran free agent . To help bring the kids along. When should the team start to try and inprove.
2012, 13,14,

[Chef]

Portland has said thair long term comitment is in Batum .
Lets say we cut TT . Draft A,Davis , More than likely trading Diaw, and DJ
' So we need that one vetran that could be counted on.
[ Kemba , Henderson , A Davis, Smack Crash] a solid but very young core with one teir 1 veteran

Crash has at least two good years left . To lead thease kids.
Adding in our Portland pick and what DJ and Boris brings . The young core should be solid.
CHASH would only cost a little more than TT with a hell of a lot more production. So signing Crash wouldn't strap us for cash.,

Would you rather pay TT 9mil per or CRASH 10 mil per. Thats not saying we coultn't get CRASH cheaper.

not picking on you, but a general plea to all on the board. can we please stop talking about our core. we have no core. kemba, biz, hendo are not for certain starters nor are building blocks. we are not one player or even two players away from anything. our "core" has managed to win 3 games and are for sure the very worst team in the league. we are at least 3 or 4 years away from committing 40 mil to anyone.

[CatNation1]

no, all hes done since the trade is accuse the team of stabbing him in the back etc. i think both sides have moved on

[bozzy]

no, all hes done since the trade is accuse the team of stabbing him in the back etc. i think both sides have moved on

You mean other than becoming a fan favorite in Portland and playing the same as he always has?

[Mustachio]

thats pretty short sighted I think. we do have a core, writing off rookies that have shown triple and double double type performances is silly. Even if your core isn't the best in the league, or consist of mostly developing rookies doesn't mean it isn't a core.

We tried the whole build your core around one guy thing and that netted a playoff sweep. I think the general gist of our direction as a team now is to build around not one, not two but several solid very young pieces. Those pieces get better, and you add to that core in free agency and draft.

I know the team performances this year have been god awful, hard to watch and not very promising. But the core of youth has shown plenty of promise in individual performance.

[Mustachio]

You mean other than becoming a fan favorite in Portland and playing the same as he always has?


yes including the occasional scoreless nights, non factor in the 4th quarter, and a first round playoff exit. It's like he never left charlotte.

[dav7z]

not picking on you, but a general plea to all on the board. can we please stop talking about our core. we have no core. kemba, biz, hendo are not for certain starters nor are building blocks. we are not one player or even two players away from anything. our "core" has managed to win 3 games and are for sure the very worst team in the league. we are at least 3 or 4 years away from committing 40 mil to anyone.

I disagree i think we have a solid core started . Agreeded they are just kids learning the game. Problem is you think we a lot futher away than i do . Could be you think all thease kids suck . See i think we start making our move after next years draft where we should get the 1st pick. According to what im gathering from you is we should bottom feed til about 2015, Thats where we differ . Im all for turning all thease rookies lose next season and leting them grow toghter . Still with all the youth one needs a good example as to how to win and play the right way.

When should the team try to start winning?? Just asking guys ?

[Chef]

I disagree i think we have a solid core started . Agreeded they are just kids learning the game. Problem is you think we a lot futher away than i do . Could be you think all thease kids suck . See i think we start making our move after next years draft where we should get the 1st pick. According to what im gathering from you is we should bottom feed til about 2015, Thats where we differ . Im all for turning all thease rookies lose next season and leting them grow toghter . Still with all the youth one needs a good example as to how to win and play the right way.

When should the team try to start winning?? Just asking guys ?

it's not that i think they all suck. hendo, kemba and even biz to some degree show a ton of promise and talent. i am not writing them off. but, i know for sure none are superstars. no one on our team is untradeable and/or a central building block. therefore, i say we don't have a core yet. i am not advocating losing on purpose or waiting to win until x year. we just suck, i don't think it is a matter of losing on purpose or holding back. we are under gunned. once we get a superstar game changing player in the draft, i am all for building around him and spending money where it is needed until then we are a directionless team.

[docend24]

As long as Higgins is here, Crash will refuse to come back.

Well, you might be up to something... That's a good reason itself to sign him.

[ammofan]

I love GW but I don't feel like 10 mil per for someone like him is appropriate. Save that money. If he could score more I would be for it tho. Reason? With young primarily defensive guys on our team like Bis, GH, maybe Davis....I think we need a good veteran scorer on the team. (Vet meaning someone who has been in the league a while and knows his way around, not old like Maggette or something.)

[dav7z]

I love GW but I don't feel like 10 mil per for someone like him is appropriate. Save that money. If he could score more I would be for it tho. Reason? With young primarily defensive guys on our team like Bis, GH, maybe Davis....I think we need a good veteran scorer on the team. (Vet meaning someone who has been in the league a while and knows his way around, not old like Maggette or something.)
Agreeded but more than likely it needs to be a small foward . NOT MAGGS for sure but if we end up drafting A DaviS. We need a scoring s/f Jaminson might foot that bill at a much cheaper price than Wallace . Though i don't think he has enough legs left to make any differance.

We might get lucky and land another scorer in the draft , if CHO can make a couple good trades befor the deadline. Though i really belive we got to play thease rookies next season no matter how much we lose. Can any one name a better mentor on the free agent market than Wallace . He would probably go for three years at 10 per but i doubt any less. Hes got a one year option at about 1o.

Mayo, Beasley can't think of much else in the free agent class this season . Could just sign DJ and wait til the 2014 free agent class . Use our draft picks Portland and most likely ours in 2013 then try and make the run. But i would like a solid vetran on the floor with thease guys.


Oh yea Higgins and Salis days are over after this season for sure . You can't just keep a GM and a coach on a team this bad NO WAY.....